"the road" by cormac mccarthy good post apocalyptic story, the movie is about to be released
It's like that horrible screech you get when the microphone is positioned too close to a speaker, only with cops.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 27, 2009, 10:12:05 PMQuote from: Nasturtiums on November 27, 2009, 09:55:48 PM
I don't think there's a tactful way of informing someone that you've stumbled upon their stash of body parts.
What the fuck are you freaked out about? Apparently, my second horrible thought of Wednesday night was right, and this sort of shit is apparently normal and healthy.
Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 27, 2009, 04:40:47 PM
I'd say keep her, though you may need to keep your bank account separate... I hear she has a habit of giving away money.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 23, 2009, 05:40:36 PMso if legalization happened then grass roots movements to secure funding for the kids, and legislation that prohibits advertising and promotion of use, and legislation that ensures harsh penalty's to those that deal to minors could happen? and if they could wouldn't they counteract the increases in use that you fear? ( i think the connection between drug laws and use rates is still up for debate) i don't see there being any more difficulty in doing what is needed with pot being legal, than there are with the challenges you face getting policy reform,Quote from: fomenter on November 23, 2009, 04:55:02 PMQuote from: fomenter on November 19, 2009, 06:15:59 PM?Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 19, 2009, 05:56:42 PMas for "it wont happen!!!" and "it will happen with policy reform !!!" WHY both are going to be done by the same incompetent government at the direction of the same apathetic citizens why does "one works" and the other "wont happen"???
But that won't happen.
But what you all seem to keep ignoring is what I keep bringing up. The ills you listed can be addressed in policy reforms without legalizing the substance.
That's what grassroots movements are for. It's worked here in Maine. I'm part of a pretty powerful advocacy group that has managed to be able to work quite well with state government to influence policy decisions. Hell, the chair in her former position has even been able to sway Susan Collins on a vote on nuclear proliferation.
Quote from: fomenter on November 19, 2009, 06:15:59 PM?Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 19, 2009, 05:56:42 PMas for "it wont happen!!!" and "it will happen with policy reform !!!" WHY both are going to be done by the same incompetent government at the direction of the same apathetic citizens why does "one works" and the other "wont happen"???
But that won't happen.
But what you all seem to keep ignoring is what I keep bringing up. The ills you listed can be addressed in policy reforms without legalizing the substance.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 23, 2009, 04:29:30 PMits not just about the right to smoke, you focus on the harm to x number of kids but don't weigh the harm to society and individuals (many of whom are also kids) that the war itself costs, and the concern that liberty's given up inevitably lead to more liberty's being given up is legitimate and should also be weighed against the harm you think prohibition prevents, the patriot act we lost some rights to privacy (wire taping) should we allow the government to listen in to peoples conversations and emails to catch pot dealers? it would protect the kids.... and that trumps liberty ...
Is whether or not you can use marijuana legally THAT important? And do you really think rights around marijuana use are going to upset the house of cards of democracy? I would suggest that if our democracy is THAT fragile, that it relies upon recreational drug use, our democracy perhaps deserves to fail so we can set up something a bit more resilient and robust.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 21, 2009, 02:07:07 PMyes it would be, by prohibition logic we should ban adults from driving because some fourteen year old might steal his dads car, his dad just parks it in the driveway and isn't capable of controlling his own children, isn't smart enough or a good enough parent to hid the keys or teach his kid how dangerous it is to drive a car with a undeveloped brain and motor-skills, so its the governments job to step in
Underage driving is not solved by banning cars.