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Four kinds of love

Started by Bu🤠ns, May 18, 2012, 06:26:00 AM

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Epimetheus

Shouldn't #4 be rephrased as Loving self for the benefit of others?

Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 19, 2012, 06:28:53 AM
I am not sure I'm on board with typifying these "types of love" at all.

This
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The Good Reverend Roger

How about "Love for the sake of nookie"?

Because it would be inaccurate to leave that one out.
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Placid Dingo

Quote from: Epimetheus on June 05, 2012, 03:38:51 AM
Shouldn't #4 be rephrased as Loving self for the benefit of others?

Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 19, 2012, 06:28:53 AM
I am not sure I'm on board with typifying these "types of love" at all.

This

I sort of agree with the idea that it's needless to typify love. But it does provide a good model for stopping and saying 'hey what's going on with my life' especially if you're not great at really understanding your own thoughts and feelings.
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Bu🤠ns

Quote from: Epimetheus on June 05, 2012, 03:38:51 AM
Shouldn't #4 be rephrased as Loving self for the benefit of others?

Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 19, 2012, 06:28:53 AM
I am not sure I'm on board with typifying these "types of love" at all.

This

oops! thanks for the call out!

Bu🤠ns

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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2012, 03:48:08 AM
How about "Love for the sake of nookie"?

Because it would be inaccurate to leave that one out.

That would be #1 and/or #2 ... although I'd like to see it for #3.  "I will do you for your own good"


eta:
Okay i was trying to be funny and just realized that could possibly be rape if not done in a consentual light hearted way. lol..

nm me, i just worked like 12 hours...

Bu🤠ns

Quote from: Placid Dingo on June 05, 2012, 05:36:04 AM
Quote from: Epimetheus on June 05, 2012, 03:38:51 AM
Shouldn't #4 be rephrased as Loving self for the benefit of others?

Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 19, 2012, 06:28:53 AM
I am not sure I'm on board with typifying these "types of love" at all.

This

I sort of agree with the idea that it's needless to typify love. But it does provide a good model for stopping and saying 'hey what's going on with my life' especially if you're not great at really understanding your own thoughts and feelings.

I don't think it's NECESSARY to typify it...I'm just doing it because I enjoy these types of ideas.  For the fun of it. :)

The positive side effect, I've found, was dropping a sense of guilt I've felt whenever I'd try to improve myself.  I always felt it was 'selfish' but now I see the benefit of doing that...

Epimetheus

It's okay and interesting to organize information about behavior patterns. But if you commit too seriously to a certain number and order of Types, then you're ill-prepared to respond to the reality of an ever-changing and fluctuating spectrum of human behavior/feelings.

Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 05, 2012, 05:44:28 AM
The positive side effect, I've found, was dropping a sense of guilt I've felt whenever I'd try to improve myself.  I always felt it was 'selfish' but now I see the benefit of doing that...

It's true, improving yourself in a proper manner will, in a roundabout way, help others.
Then again, if you see the benefit of improving yourself because it helps others, then you are actually valuing the sake of the others. :P
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Bu🤠ns

Quote from: Epimetheus on June 05, 2012, 06:57:55 AM
It's okay and interesting to organize information about behavior patterns. But if you commit too seriously to a certain number and order of Types, then you're ill-prepared to respond to the reality of an ever-changing and fluctuating spectrum of human behavior/feelings.

That's a good point. I can think of many occurrences in my life and in others' where I've seen an abundance of structure weaken that primal sense of spontaneity.  See: Aneristic Illusion etc etc.

Quote from: Epimetheus on June 05, 2012, 06:57:55 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 05, 2012, 05:44:28 AM
The positive side effect, I've found, was dropping a sense of guilt I've felt whenever I'd try to improve myself.  I always felt it was 'selfish' but now I see the benefit of doing that...

It's true, improving yourself in a proper manner will, in a roundabout way, help others.
Then again, if you see the benefit of improving yourself because it helps others, then you are actually valuing the sake of the others. :P

I don't think that's so bad.  I'm about thirty-one now and for the past year I've decided it was time to finally formulate my own Purpose (perhaps even to a higher ideal ... but that just sounds kinda silly).  I call it my Master Plan (perhaps that's even sillier).  And something I've recognized as a component to that is a certain degree of service to others.  Maybe that's just the father in me.

One thing that does seem to make sense is that without others, I don't think I'd have quite the same sense of self (if any) that I do.  And so removing others from that equation, I'd also be removing a key component to my own sense of self. 

So why not? They say if you want to learn something really well, teach it.  Sounds like a good plan to me. :)

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 05, 2012, 05:40:57 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2012, 03:48:08 AM
How about "Love for the sake of nookie"?

Because it would be inaccurate to leave that one out.

That would be #1 and/or #2 ... although I'd like to see it for #3.  "I will do you for your own good"


eta:
Okay i was trying to be funny and just realized that could possibly be rape if not done in a consentual light hearted way. lol..

nm me, i just worked like 12 hours...

And even if it isn't, glands like mine need THEIR OWN definition of love.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Epimetheus

Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 06, 2012, 05:05:30 AM
I don't think that's so bad.

I didn't mean to say it's bad. Just pointing out a slight paradox.
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