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UNLIMITED GOP 2012 PRIMARY CANDIDATE THREAD

Started by LMNO, March 03, 2011, 02:58:25 PM

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Quote from: V3X on October 23, 2012, 05:20:39 PM
Watching { WWE wrestling | American Politics } is my one guilty pleasure. I know the story lines are written ahead of time, and the whole { match | election } is rigged from the start, but the compelling narratives are addictive. I find myself rooting for someone to jump into the { ring | race } and start beating a guy with a { fold-up chair | focus-group-tested zinger } . I know it's all fake and contrived, and there'll never be real { appreciation for | progress in } the arena of { real wrestling | meaningful politics } until we give up our addiction to this fake, over-the-top, badly-acted crap. But I { bought my  season pass | invested in my candidate } and it seems like such a waste to give up now.

:potd:

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Quote from: Man Yellow on October 23, 2012, 04:27:04 PM
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Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 23, 2012, 03:31:04 PM
I didn't even watch.  I get more foreign policy information from your throw-away jokes than I could have gotten from those two wankers.

But what you didn't get was the look on Romney's face.

retarded rabbit in headlights?

Angry monkey.

He looked constipated, to me.

And, his "attacking ME isn't talking about policy" bullshit got old the FIRST time he tried it. 
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I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 23, 2012, 03:31:04 PM
I didn't even watch.  I get more foreign policy information from your throw-away jokes than I could have gotten from those two wankers.

But what you didn't get was the look on Romney's face.

retarded rabbit in headlights?

Angry monkey.

He looked constipated, to me.

And, his "attacking ME isn't talking about policy" bullshit got old the FIRST time he tried it.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

And it appears that Nigel has been giving Ann Romney some pointers:

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nephew Twiddleton

Trumps big announcement-

he will give 5 mill to charity of obamas choice if he releases his high school transcripts and passport applications by 5 pm halloween.

In other words attention whore cant find the info to complete his term paper wants to pay teacher to do it for him.
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Nephew Twiddleton

College transcripts i mean.

Twid
released his high school transcripts this morning.
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Cain

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/political-science-says-a-romney-presidency-would-be-doomed/263918/

QuoteIf Mitt Romney is elected, he will be the fourth Republican president in the Reagan regime. That regime is no longer in its glory days. Demographic shifts have weakened the Republican electoral coalition, while Republican politicians have grown increasingly radical and ideological. At best, Romney will be an affiliated president attempting to revive the Republican brand after it has been badly tarnished by George W. Bush; at worst, he will be a disjunctive president, unable to keep his party's factions together, and presiding over the end of the Reagan coalition.

Throughout his career, Romney has presented himself as a pragmatic, data-driven, hands-on problem-solver. In this respect he resembles our two last disjunctive presidents, Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter. Yet in order to secure his party's nomination, Romney has had to twist his positions to conform to the most radical demands of the Republican base.

I'm not so sure I agree with Balkin's characterization of Romney as a "disjunctive" President.  The Republicans are far more likely to fall in line behind Romney should he become President, because the party is more uniformly ideological and the Republicans care about winning first and passing their agenda second.  No doubt many conservatives will find Romney's various ways to pass his agenda (whatever agenda that may actually be) somewhat obnoxious, but I don't even see a serious primary challenge being mounted against him, should he take the White House.

Romney would in fact probably govern more as a "pre-emptive" President, assuming he could build the coalitions he needed to pass his agenda.  Using Ryan as a fluffer for the House Republicans (I will not apologize for that mental image) will probably get most of them to fall in line with his compromises.  What people forget is that Romney wants power above all...I wouldn't say he is entirely non-ideological, but he will adopt the colours and rhetoric of the people whose support he needs to get something done.  And he will therefore compromise when he has to, because having power is the main thing.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2012, 08:50:26 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/political-science-says-a-romney-presidency-would-be-doomed/263918/

QuoteIf Mitt Romney is elected, he will be the fourth Republican president in the Reagan regime. That regime is no longer in its glory days. Demographic shifts have weakened the Republican electoral coalition, while Republican politicians have grown increasingly radical and ideological. At best, Romney will be an affiliated president attempting to revive the Republican brand after it has been badly tarnished by George W. Bush; at worst, he will be a disjunctive president, unable to keep his party's factions together, and presiding over the end of the Reagan coalition.

Throughout his career, Romney has presented himself as a pragmatic, data-driven, hands-on problem-solver. In this respect he resembles our two last disjunctive presidents, Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter. Yet in order to secure his party's nomination, Romney has had to twist his positions to conform to the most radical demands of the Republican base.

I'm not so sure I agree with Balkin's characterization of Romney as a "disjunctive" President.  The Republicans are far more likely to fall in line behind Romney should he become President, because the party is more uniformly ideological and the Republicans care about winning first and passing their agenda second.  No doubt many conservatives will find Romney's various ways to pass his agenda (whatever agenda that may actually be) somewhat obnoxious, but I don't even see a serious primary challenge being mounted against him, should he take the White House.

Romney would in fact probably govern more as a "pre-emptive" President, assuming he could build the coalitions he needed to pass his agenda.  Using Ryan as a fluffer for the House Republicans (I will not apologize for that mental image) will probably get most of them to fall in line with his compromises.  What people forget is that Romney wants power above all...I wouldn't say he is entirely non-ideological, but he will adopt the colours and rhetoric of the people whose support he needs to get something done.  And he will therefore compromise when he has to, because having power is the main thing.

Precisely. There's a reason why the man will change his politics 24 hours later at a different campaign stop.

This might be a bit of a side note, but I thought I saw it somewhere that the LDS basically try and groom their men to become people like Romney. Any truth to this? I do remember reading an article where a feminist member of Romney's congregation asked him what he thought about abortion, and he basically said, I'm pro-choice because Salt Lake City said it was ok to say that you're pro-choice in a liberal state in order to get political office. So she asked the question again and he's like, "Yeah, I'm pro-choice"--as if he didn't see a difference in pandering and having a legitimate opinion.
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Ah, found it:

Quote from: Judy DushkuI was in China when Mitt launched his Senate campaign in 1994. When I arrived home, the tape on my answering machine was full of messages from the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, and so forth, all saying, "We know that you're a Mormon feminist and a political scientist and you're in his ward. You've worked in Massachusetts politics around women's issues. Please talk to us." I immediately called Mitt's home, and Ann answered. She encouraged me to go down and visit with him at the campaign office. When I entered the office, there was a table to my right where I saw women from the ward working. I said, "Hi," and he asked, "What brings you here?" I told him I was interested in politics, that I heard he was taking a pro-choice stance, and that I was wondering if, as a Democrat and fellow Mormon, maybe I could work for him. I wanted to understand his stance better. "Yes, I'm definitely for choice," he said. And I said, "Great, we agree on that." Then, he said, "In Salt Lake, they told me it was okay to take that position in a liberal state." I said, "That doesn't make me quite as happy. I'd rather know you really believe it."

http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/election2012/6370/mitt_romney%E2%80%99s_best-known_mormon_critic_tells_it_all._one_last_time._/
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The thing that concerns me about Romney, and which I am disturbed that more people are not taking into consideration, is that he's a good Temple Mormon, and that means that he will do his sacred duty of saying whatever is necessary to consolidate Mormon power into the higher ranks of government.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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P3nT4gR4m

So let me get this straight, the guy in the running for prezitator is a card carrying mormon? Either you guys REALLY fucking hate Obama or he's guaranteed another term. I mean who in their right mind would vote for a mormon? Even christians think those guys are fucking retarded!  :eek:

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 26, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
So let me get this straight, the guy in the running for prezitator is a card carrying mormon? Either you guys REALLY fucking hate Obama or he's guaranteed another term. I mean who in their right mind would vote for a mormon? Even christians think those guys are fucking retarded!  :eek:

Mormon > Black, basically.
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