UNLIMITED Wizard Joseph Garbage Collection Thread.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Scored 58 of 80. I'm not sure of the value of the test, but I took it. The one done for my IQ was administered privately by a psychiatrist who was the spouse of a councilor of mine. This was when I was about 17 or 18. It put a lot into perspective for me then, now I find myself wondering how I'd do on another 15 years later.

shit.

It's been so long. I'm very different than I was just a few years ago when I dove in here and earned myself this thread. I just looked farther back and remembered how I felt and thought back then. In some ways I'm not the same dude at all anymore.  I've got much more I should add to my personal story thread. I'm not sure I'm ready to go there yet, but I have to try to get it out.

I'll work on it as my weekend project. It's a lot, but probably not as much as it feels like in my head.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Being different to how one was years ago is favorable, in my mind to being exactly the same. It's called growth. Does a being good to tear their self apart, expand on the good bits and burn the bad. Personality is like lego, build shit up, tear it down, build it back up better.

The alternative is attachment to an electro-chemical simulation, running on a couple of pounds of meat, resting in the skull of a member of the primate order. Don't let that put you off, tho, it's a popular choice.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Being different to how one was years ago is favorable, in my mind to being exactly the same. It's called growth. Does a being good to tear their self apart, expand on the good bits and burn the bad. Personality is like lego, build shit up, tear it down, build it back up better.

The alternative is attachment to an electro-chemical simulation, running on a couple of pounds of meat, resting in the skull of a member of the primate order. Don't let that put you off, tho, it's a popular choice.

PD WILL kick over your legos, but it beats being hooked up to a lie by your brain-meats.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury, when adults think they are "completely different people" from who they were earlier in adulthood, they haven't really changed on a fundamental level; they are still completely recognizable as themselves to others who haven't interacted with them recently. Rather, what changes, with some effort, is typically relatively superficial behaviors and attitudes. Because personality is so stable, it takes so much effort to achieve even relatively small shifts in perspective, behavior, or attitude, and so that expenditure of effort causes the person who has made such a change to overestimate the degree of difference from their former self.

[Nast]

THANKS NIGEL FOR SHITTING ALL OVER OUR PERSONAL GROWTH

[The Wizard Joseph]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury, when adults think they are "completely different people" from who they were earlier in adulthood, they haven't really changed on a fundamental level; they are still completely recognizable as themselves to others who haven't interacted with them recently. Rather, what changes, with some effort, is typically relatively superficial behaviors and attitudes. Because personality is so stable, it takes so much effort to achieve even relatively small shifts in perspective, behavior, or attitude, and so that expenditure of effort causes the person who has made such a change to overestimate the degree of difference from their former self.

I very much see this. I don't consider myself a truly different person, but there are notable differences. They ARE relatively small things, but as you said from in my head they're huge. I've gained competencies and shrugged off some of my old ideas, nothing more. Also definitely nothing less.

[Trivial]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury, when adults think they are "completely different people" from who they were earlier in adulthood, they haven't really changed on a fundamental level; they are still completely recognizable as themselves to others who haven't interacted with them recently. Rather, what changes, with some effort, is typically relatively superficial behaviors and attitudes. Because personality is so stable, it takes so much effort to achieve even relatively small shifts in perspective, behavior, or attitude, and so that expenditure of effort causes the person who has made such a change to overestimate the degree of difference from their former self.

Great I'll always be that creepy introvert 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury,

I totally get a pass here.   

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury,

I totally get a pass here.   

Yes, you do. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

THANKS NIGEL FOR SHITTING ALL OVER OUR PERSONAL GROWTH

MY PLEASURE






I REALLY MEAN THAT.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury, when adults think they are "completely different people" from who they were earlier in adulthood, they haven't really changed on a fundamental level; they are still completely recognizable as themselves to others who haven't interacted with them recently. Rather, what changes, with some effort, is typically relatively superficial behaviors and attitudes. Because personality is so stable, it takes so much effort to achieve even relatively small shifts in perspective, behavior, or attitude, and so that expenditure of effort causes the person who has made such a change to overestimate the degree of difference from their former self.

Great I'll always be that creepy introvert 

Introversion/extraversion tends to "wander" more than other traits, but generally if you start out an introvert, yes, you will always be an introvert. You may become a more social introvert, and you may gain social coping skills that make you a popular and fun introvert, but yeah, basically you will probably always be an introvert.

It is, however, important to not confuse "social skills" with "personality". The former are learnable and increase with experience, the latter is a product of the interaction of your temperament with your (mostly) early development and is usually pretty stable.

That said, there are some trajectories that are generally pretty predictable as people age, like becoming less emotionally labile (thanks, calcification!) and better able to regulate their reactions.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury, when adults think they are "completely different people" from who they were earlier in adulthood, they haven't really changed on a fundamental level; they are still completely recognizable as themselves to others who haven't interacted with them recently. Rather, what changes, with some effort, is typically relatively superficial behaviors and attitudes. Because personality is so stable, it takes so much effort to achieve even relatively small shifts in perspective, behavior, or attitude, and so that expenditure of effort causes the person who has made such a change to overestimate the degree of difference from their former self.

I very much see this. I don't consider myself a truly different person, but there are notable differences. They ARE relatively small things, but as you said from in my head they're huge. I've gained competencies and shrugged off some of my old ideas, nothing more. Also definitely nothing less.

I agree that these changes are not insignificant. I think of them as really refining yourself to your best potential. I am indisputably a better version of the Nigel I was ten years ago.

[The Wizard Joseph]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury, when adults think they are "completely different people" from who they were earlier in adulthood, they haven't really changed on a fundamental level; they are still completely recognizable as themselves to others who haven't interacted with them recently. Rather, what changes, with some effort, is typically relatively superficial behaviors and attitudes. Because personality is so stable, it takes so much effort to achieve even relatively small shifts in perspective, behavior, or attitude, and so that expenditure of effort causes the person who has made such a change to overestimate the degree of difference from their former self.

I very much see this. I don't consider myself a truly different person, but there are notable differences. They ARE relatively small things, but as you said from in my head they're huge. I've gained competencies and shrugged off some of my old ideas, nothing more. Also definitely nothing less.

I agree that these changes are not insignificant. I think of them as really refining yourself to your best potential. I am indisputably a better version of the Nigel I was ten years ago.

Is that the result of a conscious choice that you made somewhere?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury, when adults think they are "completely different people" from who they were earlier in adulthood, they haven't really changed on a fundamental level; they are still completely recognizable as themselves to others who haven't interacted with them recently. Rather, what changes, with some effort, is typically relatively superficial behaviors and attitudes. Because personality is so stable, it takes so much effort to achieve even relatively small shifts in perspective, behavior, or attitude, and so that expenditure of effort causes the person who has made such a change to overestimate the degree of difference from their former self.

I very much see this. I don't consider myself a truly different person, but there are notable differences. They ARE relatively small things, but as you said from in my head they're huge. I've gained competencies and shrugged off some of my old ideas, nothing more. Also definitely nothing less.

I agree that these changes are not insignificant. I think of them as really refining yourself to your best potential. I am indisputably a better version of the Nigel I was ten years ago.

Is that the result of a conscious choice that you made somewhere?

Absolutely. A series of conscious choices, really, adjusting as I went along. We all have shit about ourselves that we don't particularly like, if we examine ourselves at all.

[The Wizard Joseph]

The funniest thing is that personality is actually really stable and temperament is fairly fixed, and in most cases, absent major trauma or brain injury, when adults think they are "completely different people" from who they were earlier in adulthood, they haven't really changed on a fundamental level; they are still completely recognizable as themselves to others who haven't interacted with them recently. Rather, what changes, with some effort, is typically relatively superficial behaviors and attitudes. Because personality is so stable, it takes so much effort to achieve even relatively small shifts in perspective, behavior, or attitude, and so that expenditure of effort causes the person who has made such a change to overestimate the degree of difference from their former self.

I very much see this. I don't consider myself a truly different person, but there are notable differences. They ARE relatively small things, but as you said from in my head they're huge. I've gained competencies and shrugged off some of my old ideas, nothing more. Also definitely nothing less.

I agree that these changes are not insignificant. I think of them as really refining yourself to your best potential. I am indisputably a better version of the Nigel I was ten years ago.

Is that the result of a conscious choice that you made somewhere?

Absolutely. A series of conscious choices, really, adjusting as I went along. We all have shit about ourselves that we don't particularly like, if we examine ourselves at all.

I still can't get over Muenster calling it arrogant to even try.

Here's to remarkably successful arrogance!