Rev Roger, Year of the Rat #10: I'm Talking to YOU, Bubba.

[Golden Applesauce]

So if I vote, will things get better?
Will they get worse slower than if I hadn't?

Ah, here's the cynicism I was talking about.

No, I was totally fucking joking.  If you blissfully ignore the process that decides who runs the nation you live in, everything will be just fine, and you can show all your friends how jaded you are.

If I had friends, I'm sure they'd be impressed by my jade sunglasses.

It just seems to me that whether I blissfully ignore processes or vote in them isn't going to make a difference, at least on the national level.  Campaigning might, as it gets numbers of people to do something, but me voting by myself ... Suppose I'd lived and voted in Guam's primary: the margin might have been 6 or 8 votes instead of 7 - but Hillary still would have won that primary, and Obama is still going to win the nomination.  The state I live in is not nearly so evenly split - it's just pissing in an ocean of voters.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It just seems to me that whether I blissfully ignore processes or vote in them isn't going to make a difference, at least on the national level.  Campaigning might, as it gets numbers of people to do something, but me voting by myself ... Suppose I'd lived and voted in Guam's primary: the margin might have been 6 or 8 votes instead of 7 - but Hillary still would have won that primary, and Obama is still going to win the nomination.  The state I live in is not nearly so evenly split - it's just pissing in an ocean of voters.

Well, sure.  The only solution is non-participation. 

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But if it only takes you 2 hours to vote you're doing it wrong.

It never, ever, ever takes me that long to vote. It's figuring out what and who to vote FOR that takes up all the time, but usually filling in the little circles and putting the ballot in the envelope and then in the other envelope and finding a stamp only takes like, half an hour at most.

And if I don't think I know enough about an issue to vote on it, I don't.

That's what I was getting at, the figuring out part. I try to understand each issue and candidate, so it ends up taking more than a few hours.

[P3nT4gR4m]

encouraging liars and cheats to lie and cheat aint my bag. That how I see voting and thats why I don't do it. Maybe it's different over there but in the uk its about power - they want your vote, they don't want to help make the country a better place, they want power and influence and it's written all over their fucking faces. We don't even have a 'lesser of 2 evils' option - its just cunts all the way down

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

But if it only takes you 2 hours to vote you're doing it wrong.

It never, ever, ever takes me that long to vote. It's figuring out what and who to vote FOR that takes up all the time, but usually filling in the little circles and putting the ballot in the envelope and then in the other envelope and finding a stamp only takes like, half an hour at most.

And if I don't think I know enough about an issue to vote on it, I don't.

That's what I was getting at, the figuring out part. I try to understand each issue and candidate, so it ends up taking more than a few hours.

True dat.

I find that for the most part, by the time the ballot comes I've got a pretty good idea of what's going on just from keeping my eyes and ears open and reading the occasional news article, but not always. Also, as some sort of retarded liberal Republican, I often find that I see and agree with BOTH sides of a ballot measure, and when that happens I can't really vote either way.

[Roo]

They never have a "none of the above" option on the ballot. Cuz that's my vote.

Because the lesser of two evils is still evil, and I don't want any more fucking evils.


-waiting for the whole damn system to implode.

[Payne]

If you want the thing borked, you'll have to do more than watch it.

The system has been running for this long after all, with generations of people "waiting for it to implode".

They're gone, the system isn't.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

If you want the thing borked, you'll have to do more than watch it.

The system has been running for this long after all, with generations of people "waiting for it to implode".

They're gone, the system isn't.

[Requia ☣]

They never have a "none of the above" option on the ballot. Cuz that's my vote.

Write it in.

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8.5 x 11
There is a cover in the PDF file that is designed to be printed in black and white OR color if you can manage it. It's not absolutely necessary, but it does help entice the reader to open the pamphlet by having a cover. (It's supposed to be folded, see)
    If you're really hard up for cash and want to get the most for your money, print page 1 on both sides of a single sheet and cut it in half.

[Cramulus]

man, you're on FIRE

could you x-post this over at the Rev-Roger materials in the Propaganda Depository?

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man, you're on FIRE

could you x-post this over at the Rev-Roger materials in the Propaganda Depository?

Sure thing.

[Richter]

This needs to be passed out to the college age crowd. 

As always, feel free to distribute as you see fit, so long as my name is on it.

TGRR,
Gitmo or bust.

Formated to fit on a single page, added name, and distributing.  Round one is going to basketball fans. 

[fomenter]

They never have a "none of the above" option on the ballot. Cuz that's my vote.

Write it in.

this was my plan for 08 wish it was a mass movement none of the above winning would be great  and  and mega 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

encouraging liars and cheats to lie and cheat aint my bag. That how I see voting and thats why I don't do it. Maybe it's different over there but in the uk its about power - they want your vote, they don't want to help make the country a better place, they want power and influence and it's written all over their fucking faces. We don't even have a 'lesser of 2 evils' option - its just cunts all the way down

Why, yes, they're all the same.  Enjoy your war.