Miley Cyrus, Pedobear, and the Hollywood Spectacle

[The Good Reverend Roger]

btw, liked this article: http://kimboekbinder.tumblr.com/post/59490908152/miley-cyrus-is-brilliant

relevant snip:

Miley Cyrus doesn't want our acceptance, she only wants our attention. In this scene we are her parents and she is the rebelling teenager. She took the stage half-naked, but it was the kind of half-naked that has been sanctioned for young girls. The totally ok half-naked. Then, to be really shocking, she stripped to the other kind of half-naked - the half-naked that has not been sanctioned for young girls. And she danced with the most disgusting man she could find. The kind of man that her public (read: parents) would never approve of. And the whole show is so obvious, so badly orchestrated, so boring, that I can't believe that I am even writing this, but her show transcended its own mediocrity somehow to become the kind of spectacle it was trying so desperately to be. 

Growing up in public must be hard, because growing up is hard to do under any circumstance. Maybe Miley Cyrus is actually having a breakdown. And if she is, my heart goes out to her, but only a little bit. Because I have breakdowns too. But I don't get to monetize mine.

No, I don't think Miley Cyrus is hurting. And I don't think she's harming either. She's a brilliant young women using her sexuality in the exact way she has been taught to, to build a career and a life for herself in a world that only cares about how many clicks you're worth.

Yeah, saw that article earlier. Boekbinder is rad.

Kim's point about sexuality and clicks and such is spot on. people complain about music artists (especially young women) being too sexed up for the kids. But that is the way the game is rigged and I honestly don't see enough criticism of that tendency within the hollywood and mainstream music scene

I think people are giving the manufactured Disney princess way too much credit saying what she did was satire.

just because something is manufactured and such doesn't mean she's an eejit though.

It's a woman in question, so of COURSE RWHN thinks she's stupid.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

What if it was satire?  Is it still wrong?

if it was satire, then I'm cool with it. if Cyrus actually opens her mouth and talks about "blurred lines" and the satire of this performance, or the cultural appropriation concerns i'd feel a lot better about the whole deal.

Cyrus has been criticised for this before though, and there hasn't been a real response.

Nope. I don't usually go back and explain my trolls, either. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

haha.  it's the problem with the OTT borderline Poe's Law nature of shit like this, it could be utterly biting commentary or a gargantuan fuckup.

Either way, the net effect is positive.

She took the standard misogynist stage act and made it HORRIBLE FOREVER.

YES! this is something to be positive about.

There's going to be a WHOLE LOT of producers shifting their lazy asses, trying to find a new bit.

That alone makes everything worthwhile.  Expect some HILARITY as 3/5 attempts crash and burn.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

btw, liked this article: http://kimboekbinder.tumblr.com/post/59490908152/miley-cyrus-is-brilliant

relevant snip:

Miley Cyrus doesn't want our acceptance, she only wants our attention. In this scene we are her parents and she is the rebelling teenager. She took the stage half-naked, but it was the kind of half-naked that has been sanctioned for young girls. The totally ok half-naked. Then, to be really shocking, she stripped to the other kind of half-naked - the half-naked that has not been sanctioned for young girls. And she danced with the most disgusting man she could find. The kind of man that her public (read: parents) would never approve of. And the whole show is so obvious, so badly orchestrated, so boring, that I can't believe that I am even writing this, but her show transcended its own mediocrity somehow to become the kind of spectacle it was trying so desperately to be. 

Growing up in public must be hard, because growing up is hard to do under any circumstance. Maybe Miley Cyrus is actually having a breakdown. And if she is, my heart goes out to her, but only a little bit. Because I have breakdowns too. But I don't get to monetize mine.

No, I don't think Miley Cyrus is hurting. And I don't think she's harming either. She's a brilliant young women using her sexuality in the exact way she has been taught to, to build a career and a life for herself in a world that only cares about how many clicks you're worth.

Yeah, saw that article earlier. Boekbinder is rad.

Kim's point about sexuality and clicks and such is spot on. people complain about music artists (especially young women) being too sexed up for the kids. But that is the way the game is rigged and I honestly don't see enough criticism of that tendency within the hollywood and mainstream music scene

I think people are giving the manufactured Disney princess way too much credit saying what she did was satire.

just because something is manufactured and such doesn't mean she's an eejit though.

It's a woman in question, so of COURSE RWHN thinks she's stupid.

yea. I forgot I'd sent the fucker to Coventry for that kind of shit. Oops.

teenage girls are too often written off as shallow or stupid in a culture that tells them how to look, how to behave and sends so much bullshit baggage their way. There are many passionate, intelligent, switched on teen girls and young women and the ones that I know I am proud to know.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

yea. I forgot I'd sent the fucker to Coventry for that kind of shit. Oops.

teenage girls are too often written off as shallow or stupid in a culture that tells them how to look, how to behave and sends so much bullshit baggage their way. There are many passionate, intelligent, switched on teen girls and young women and the ones that I know I am proud to know.

Also, some of the most viciously witty people I know are aged 17 (my daughter) to 25 (Sister Gothique).

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

yea. I forgot I'd sent the fucker to Coventry for that kind of shit. Oops.

teenage girls are too often written off as shallow or stupid in a culture that tells them how to look, how to behave and sends so much bullshit baggage their way. There are many passionate, intelligent, switched on teen girls and young women and the ones that I know I am proud to know.

Also, some of the most viciously witty people I know are aged 17 (my daughter) to 25 (Sister Gothique).

yup.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

as for the ones that haven't twigged yet how the game for them is rigged, i won't hear any crap spoken about them either, unless they are being assholes. I prefer the gentle approach and attempting to make them see a different perspective.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

haha.  it's the problem with the OTT borderline Poe's Law nature of shit like this, it could be utterly biting commentary or a gargantuan fuckup.

Either way, the net effect is positive.

She took the standard misogynist stage act and made it HORRIBLE FOREVER.

Which is AWESOME.

[Telarus]

Wow, great perspectives on said trainwreck. Thanks.


Also, that was epic, Vex. Well done

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

yea. I forgot I'd sent the fucker to Coventry for that kind of shit. Oops.

teenage girls are too often written off as shallow or stupid in a culture that tells them how to look, how to behave and sends so much bullshit baggage their way. There are many passionate, intelligent, switched on teen girls and young women and the ones that I know I am proud to know.

Also, some of the most viciously witty people I know are aged 17 (my daughter) to 25 (Sister Gothique).

My daughter's been clowning around the house like that since sixth grade or so. Nigel's got the right of it, it's a troll. Even if all Miley got was Billy Ray's brain, she KNOWS the over-the-top shit with the nonstop Gene Simmons tongue isn't alluring.

And it IS great. IT'S THE MUSIC AWARDS SHOW AMERICA DESERVES. 

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Wow, great perspectives on said trainwreck. Thanks.


Also, that was epic, Vex. Well done

Thanks. I don't know where it came from.

yea. I forgot I'd sent the fucker to Coventry for that kind of shit. Oops.

teenage girls are too often written off as shallow or stupid in a culture that tells them how to look, how to behave and sends so much bullshit baggage their way. There are many passionate, intelligent, switched on teen girls and young women and the ones that I know I am proud to know.

Also, some of the most viciously witty people I know are aged 17 (my daughter) to 25 (Sister Gothique).

My daughter's been clowning around the house like that since sixth grade or so. Nigel's got the right of it, it's a troll. Even if all Miley got was Billy Ray's brain, she KNOWS the over-the-top shit with the nonstop Gene Simmons tongue isn't alluring.

And it IS great. IT'S THE MUSIC AWARDS SHOW AMERICA DESERVES. 

Yeah this, too. And even if she didn't mean to troll, even if it wasn't intentional parody, it has had the same effect for many people. I've seen loads of people asking, "is pop culture a sham?" and pining, "I wish artists would just focus more on their art and less on their latex!"

Wait, no I haven't. I've seen a lot of people talking about how awful and desperate she looked.

And buying her records, of course.

[Sita]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zbxM4EehE
Someone wrote a song about it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zbxM4EehE
Someone wrote a song about it.

That about sums it up.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zbxM4EehE
Someone wrote a song about it.

That about sums it up.

that's fucking BRILLIANT

[East Coast Hustle]

I still say the entire thing was justified by the looks on Will Smith's familys' faces.

Especially his son.

ETA:  Smith himself turned into ECH for a second or two.