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Started by Cain, April 18, 2009, 02:42:23 PM

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LMNO

#150
August 01, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
It's not new: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."






ETA: I just looked up the phrase to see if I got it right, and as it turns out "protest" meant something slightly different in Willie's day, so everyone's been using it wrong in the modern age. It was intended to mean someone who swears, advocates, and promises so over-the-top as to their sincerity, that it comes off as insincere.

P3nT4gR4m

#151
August 01, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

So fucking obvious. I'm kicking myself for not putting it together myself. In retrospect all the dots were there, I just never joined them!

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cainad (dec.)

#152
August 01, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

Yeah, it really is.

I mean, I murder and steal exactly as much as I want to. Which is not at all.

Junkenstein

#153
August 01, 2013, 06:59:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 01, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
It's not new: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."






ETA: I just looked up the phrase to see if I got it right, and as it turns out "protest" meant something slightly different in Willie's day, so everyone's been using it wrong in the modern age. It was intended to mean someone who swears, advocates, and promises so over-the-top as to their sincerity, that it comes off as insincere.



Wonderful.

And the pic -  :lulz:
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

McGrupp

#154
August 01, 2013, 07:49:27 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

Members of my family have said similar things to me. They seem to think they have a monopoly on morality. My response is always "Wait, the only reason you don't stab me in the chest and steal my shoes is because God told you not to? What the heck is wrong with you?"

Junkenstein

#155
August 01, 2013, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 01, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

Yeah, it really is.

I mean, I murder and steal exactly as much as I want to. Which is not at all.

It's even more disturbing because you refrain from these things without having a book to tell you what is and isn't acceptable behaviour.

Moral acts without a book are accidents preformed by Heathens. Note the language these people tend to use when discussing a good/charitable act by others. Most of the time it almost seems resentful. I don't think that's co-incidental. "My Good Deed is more noble than their Good Deed because I chose this charity after being carefully informed of its Good Deeds by that HOLY MAN. They have a different HOLY MAN so even if they're doing some Good Deeds, they're still just not quite the right ones."

Passive aggressive bullshit all over the show.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Doktor Howl

#156
August 01, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 01, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

Yeah, it really is.

I mean, I murder and steal exactly as much as I want to. Which is not at all.

It's even more disturbing because you refrain from these things without having a book to tell you what is and isn't acceptable behaviour.

Moral acts without a book are accidents preformed by Heathens. Note the language these people tend to use when discussing a good/charitable act by others. Most of the time it almost seems resentful. I don't think that's co-incidental. "My Good Deed is more noble than their Good Deed because I chose this charity after being carefully informed of its Good Deeds by that HOLY MAN. They have a different HOLY MAN so even if they're doing some Good Deeds, they're still just not quite the right ones."

Passive aggressive bullshit all over the show.

This is also accurate.  If you don't have the right Holy Man™, you're just as damned as if you didn't have one at all, so you're basically just wasting time you could be spending in hedonistic behavior.
Molon Lube

Junkenstein

#157
August 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Which leads to the even more disturbing conclusion that for at least a number of people, these behaviours ARE hedonistic activities.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Reginald Ret

#158
August 02, 2013, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Which leads to the even more disturbing conclusion that for at least a number of people, these behaviours ARE hedonistic activities.
Methinks an inflated sense of moral superiority can be quite hedonistic.
Lord Byron: "Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves."

Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#159
August 03, 2013, 01:02:43 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Which leads to the even more disturbing conclusion that for at least a number of people, these behaviours ARE hedonistic activities.

That is disturbing indeed.

If I were to indulge my hedonistic fantasies, I would have a quiet house on a sunny day with nothing to do. I would gorge myself on fresh ripe figs from my neighbor's tree, I would nap, and I would eat a shit ton of taco salad and play video games.

The fact that some people's sense of indulgence requires hurting other people is fucking creepy.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Left

#160
August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
Yes, it's ultimately a form of projection.  Their own mental model of the world is based on their experience and so, as far as they are concerned, pornography etc really are the cause of their problems, rather than a manifestation of them which is outside of most people's ordinary experiences.
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Which leads to the even more disturbing conclusion that for at least a number of people, these behaviours ARE hedonistic activities.

...Which means they may lose control and do it anyway, Jeebus or no Jeebus. 
Might explain a number of those unsolved missing-persons cases... :eek:

Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#161
August 03, 2013, 01:39:16 AM
It occurs to me that I eat figs off my neighbor's tree anyway, so essentially my entire hedonistic fantasy revolves around a quiet house and free time.

Shoot for the moon, little scientist!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Cain

#162
August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?

Left

#163
August 03, 2013, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?
...I seem to have a knack of pissing you off unintentionally, apparently.
Sorry.

I'll stop talking to you.
Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy

Don Coyote

#164
August 03, 2013, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?
...I seem to have a knack of pissing you off unintentionally, apparently.
Sorry.

I'll stop talking to you.

maybe you should fucking type your shit out and re fucking read it before hitting the fucking post button
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