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An apology from Captain Utopia

Started by Faust, April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM

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Faust

Hey,
So it's been almost a year since the EB&G debacle and I've been
somewhat surprised to find the resentment I felt, melt away.  That has
been replaced by the realization that someone stuck out their
figurative leg, I saw it - then eagerly tripped myself up over it.
I ignored the advice I was given, and I fucked up.

Going back to the Original Snub - it is an intrinsically Discordian
behaviour to illuminate ones conceits and fancies by orchestrating
them into Chaos.  If you can't laugh when the joke is played on
you, then the joke is still on you.
  If you don't choose to throw
out the bitter tea, then you're stuck drinking it.  Recognising all
this, I could no longer hold onto my cherished resentment.

Having a cause, a forum, a vision to protect - it blinded me,
it flattered me, it seduced me.  Then it stole my
wallet and left me tied to the bed.  It exposed me, and I was
found wanting.  Now replace "it" with "I".  I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,
but I do know that I failed utterly and made countless stupid mistakes
and errors of judgement.  Shamefully, it's taken this long to accept
responsibility for what happened.

I still consider myself a Discordian.  But I miss reading and
discussing Discordian ideas and bullshit.  And PD remains the best
place for that.

I'd like to come back.

I don't know how that would be possible.

I pissed off and alienated everyone I considered a friend.  I tested
patience past its limit.  I declared futile war on PD knowing that I
had no allies.  And while the fight was a lot of cathartic fun, in
truth I held neither the charisma nor skill to achieve anything else
other than waste everyones time.  Too much of it was lame-drama and
attention-seeking.  For the cause!  Eggs, Omelette, etc.

Ah whatever - I am sorry for my part in the whole affair - and at
least I'd like to ask for the forgiveness of the community.  I miss
you guys.  I have no interest in settling scores, dredging up old
fights nor starting new ones.  When I wasn't feuding, I think most of
my contributions to PD were generally positive - I'd like to get back
to that if possible.


Acknowledging that I have no right to ask any favours from you - I
would deeply appreciate it if you could post my apology to Apple Talk,
regardless of the decision.  While I understand that PD is not an
e-democracy, and the decision rests with the admin team - if the
community is vehemently opposed to the idea then there's probably not
much point considering it.

Thanks,
CU
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Doktor Howl

While I am by nature a gentle and forgiving person, I really don't need to have my NUMBER ONE FAN anywhere near me, ever again.

If outvoted, I will live with the decision, but I really have to say that I'm opposed to ANOTHER round of Roger Is Evil And I Will Save You All. 
Molon Lube

Salty

#2
Thanks for posting that. That seemed well thought out and sincere.

While I have no official say in the matter I would still like to take the time to say that CU can FUCK RIGHT OFF FOREVER. In my mind he is only a marker for the glory that is Utopian Discordianism, a heavy breathing warning to wayward discordians. And a complete asshole.

ETA: I am very familiar with this sort of person. I detest them. They push and they push and they push too fucking hard and then try say "OH HEY MY BAD I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN." and then months later they pick right back up.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 08:38:32 PM
Thanks for posting that. That seemed well thought out and sincere.

While I have no official say in the matter I would still like to take the time to say that CU can FUCK RIGHT OFF FOREVER. In my mind he is only a marker for the glory that is Utopian Discordianism, a heavy breathing warning to wayward discordians. And a complete asshole.

ETA: I am very familiar with this sort of person. I detest them. They push and they push and they push too fucking hard and then try say "OH HEY MY BAD I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN." and then months later they pick right back up.

Last time around, it was more like 5 minutes.
Molon Lube

Cain

I am willing to forgive Fictionpuss and give him another chance.  Fictionpuss in many ways reminds me of Daruko, and while I was adamantly opposed to his initial return, it did eventually work out OK.

That said, if does go on a crazy bender again, my vote is to chuck him out the airlock.  If you want a cathartic rush, better to get it from the people we troll, whom are almost entirely more deserving of it than we are

(yes, I basically want to see Moonkitten trolling again).

Doktor Howl

"I won't hit ya no more, sweetie!  I wouldn't have at all, but you made me."

Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cain on April 20, 2012, 08:44:22 PM
I am willing to forgive Fictionpuss and give him another chance.  Fictionpuss in many ways reminds me of Daruko, and while I was adamantly opposed to his initial return, it did eventually work out OK.

That said, if does go on a crazy bender again, my vote is to chuck him out the airlock.  If you want a cathartic rush, better to get it from the people we troll, whom are almost entirely more deserving of it than we are

(yes, I basically want to see Moonkitten trolling again).

Like I said, I'll abide by the majority decision, etc, etc.

But I won't be really happy if he does come back.  There's a certain level of crazy that I don't need right now, and having him trying to "deal with Roger's evil" is far, far beyond that level.
Molon Lube

Cain

First sign of that kind of thing, airlock time as far as I'm concerned.

Doktor Howl

Quote
Hey,
So it's been almost a year since the EB&G debacle and I've been
somewhat surprised to find the resentment I felt, melt away.  That has
been replaced by the realization that someone stuck out their
figurative leg
, I saw it - then eagerly tripped myself up over it.
I ignored the advice I was given, and I fucked up.

Shit, I can see it coming already.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

The first paragraph of the apology, read between the lines is:

"Roger set me up, and I fell for it."

:lulz:
Molon Lube

Telarus

++Thanks for posting that. That seemed well thought out and sincere. ++


Other than that, I don't care much.

Other than to suggest ridiculous "secret society style" initiation-mission, if he does come back it's gonna take more than words (+1 to Rog and Cain's Airlock discussion).
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,
Molon Lube

Faust

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2012, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,

Yeah that caught my eye too.
So that's one admin for, one against. ECH and 000 might take a while.

I'm only going to vote if it tips the scales either way. I'm not going to go out on a limb for him after I wasted a day of work when he diverted the boards url. But I don't especially hold any malice against him beyond that.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2012, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,

Yeah that caught my eye too.
So that's one admin for, one against. ECH and 000 might take a while.

I'm only going to vote if it tips the scales either way. I'm not going to go out on a limb for him after I wasted a day of work when he diverted the boards url. But I don't especially hold any malice against him beyond that.

Yeah, well, I spent the better part of a year with that fucko obsessing about me, and I'd really rather not experience that again.  Especially the last 60 days or so of the fucking insanity.
Molon Lube

Faust

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2012, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2012, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,

Yeah that caught my eye too.
So that's one admin for, one against. ECH and 000 might take a while.

I'm only going to vote if it tips the scales either way. I'm not going to go out on a limb for him after I wasted a day of work when he diverted the boards url. But I don't especially hold any malice against him beyond that.

Yeah, well, I spent the better part of a year with that fucko obsessing about me, and I'd really rather not experience that again.  Especially the last 60 days or so of the fucking insanity.
Yeah, well thats the thing, first sign of that and he can be ejected from the forum again.
Sleepless nights at the chateau