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Magic: Who thinks they can do it, and why otherwise intelligent people buy it.

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, December 29, 2009, 08:46:52 PM

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The Johnny

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Cowboy Bebop is the absolute single worst thing in existence, period.

E/O/T.
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Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on January 23, 2010, 09:16:31 AM
Cowboy Bebop All anime, ever, is the absolute single worst thing in existence, period.

E/O/T.

Fixed that for you.  There is no good anime, anywhere.
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Quote from: Telarus on January 23, 2010, 07:01:22 AM
All discussions on magic eventually devolve into discussions about comics and anime.


I saw this happen many-a-time @ the PDXOcculture meetings, thanks for proving it yet again.  :evil:

Better the latter than the former. And thats really saying something.  :x
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Faust

Quote from: JohNyx on January 23, 2010, 07:25:11 AM

Ive only seen the full series of:

-Neon Genesis Evangelion
-Elfen Lied
-Death Note (3/4ths of the way)
-Serial Experiments Lain

But eh, idk, theres billions of crap floating around and i cant muster the energy to read reviews.

Cowboy Bebop and the... the one where people die and get another chance to live if they kill the monsters they are instructed to (GODDAMN WHAT ITS NAME?).
Elfen Lied is thinly veiled child pornography.
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Freeky

Witch Hunter Robin is pretty good, if you don't mind ambiguous series endings.

NotPublished

Aw you mean those endings where you have to think? (Sometimes I like them, you can derail the whole story :D)

I haven't seen anything but probably the typical ones you watch on TV when its 7am and your about to go school (Muscular naked men with large nipples - DBZ) ... but I think one that stands out to me is Sailor Moon. I find it hilarious to watch
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Quote from: Faust on January 23, 2010, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: JohNyx on January 23, 2010, 07:25:11 AM

Ive only seen the full series of:

-Neon Genesis Evangelion
-Elfen Lied
-Death Note (3/4ths of the way)
-Serial Experiments Lain

But eh, idk, theres billions of crap floating around and i cant muster the energy to read reviews.

Cowboy Bebop and the... the one where people die and get another chance to live if they kill the monsters they are instructed to (GODDAMN WHAT ITS NAME?).
Elfen Lied is thinly veiled child pornography.

"Thinly?"

The Ohio State University anime club has a joke: "Most anime isn't gory tentacle rape of little girls.  Just... don't watch Elfen Lied."
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A: We have hired a number of FORMER 8th graders.

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Quote from: NotPublished on January 24, 2010, 12:49:37 AM
Aw you mean those endings where you have to think? (Sometimes I like them, you can derail the whole story :D)

I haven't seen anything but probably the typical ones you watch on TV when its 7am and your about to go school (Muscular naked men with large nipples - DBZ) ... but I think one that stands out to me is Sailor Moon. I find it hilarious to watch

I liked Dragonball, stuck with DBZ because I wanted to see how everything turned out, and REFUSED to watch that last one. It looked beyond retarded.

I also am refusing to watch the live-action DBZ movie. I didn't believe it was real at first, and I saw the movie poster at a theater first.

The Johnny

Quote from: GA on January 24, 2010, 03:17:22 AM
Quote from: Faust on January 23, 2010, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: JohNyx on January 23, 2010, 07:25:11 AM

Ive only seen the full series of:

-Neon Genesis Evangelion
-Elfen Lied
-Death Note (3/4ths of the way)
-Serial Experiments Lain

But eh, idk, theres billions of crap floating around and i cant muster the energy to read reviews.

Cowboy Bebop and the... the one where people die and get another chance to live if they kill the monsters they are instructed to (GODDAMN WHAT ITS NAME?).
Elfen Lied is thinly veiled child pornography.

"Thinly?"

The Ohio State University anime club has a joke: "Most anime isn't gory tentacle rape of little girls.  Just... don't watch Elfen Lied."

Sure its gory, but i dont recall any tentacle rape  :? And sure, there are several scenes with pre pubescent diclonius Nana naked, but they are very spaced out and reasonably in context.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

President Television

I'm not really into anime, but I just wanted to drop in and say FLCL and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann are incredibly fun. Well, Gurren Lagann is fun until the seven-year time-skip, but up until that point it is amazing. Even after that it has galaxy-sized robots fighting in space.

The thing about anime is that like everything else, it conforms to Sturgeon's Law. This isn't helped by the fact that most of the anime that gets exported to North America is just whatever's the most popular in Japan. This is actually the exact reason that I'm not really into anime.
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Faust

Quote from: JohNyx on January 24, 2010, 03:23:02 AM
Quote from: GA on January 24, 2010, 03:17:22 AM
Quote from: Faust on January 23, 2010, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: JohNyx on January 23, 2010, 07:25:11 AM

Ive only seen the full series of:

-Neon Genesis Evangelion
-Elfen Lied
-Death Note (3/4ths of the way)
-Serial Experiments Lain

But eh, idk, theres billions of crap floating around and i cant muster the energy to read reviews.

Cowboy Bebop and the... the one where people die and get another chance to live if they kill the monsters they are instructed to (GODDAMN WHAT ITS NAME?).
Elfen Lied is thinly veiled child pornography.

"Thinly?"

The Ohio State University anime club has a joke: "Most anime isn't gory tentacle rape of little girls.  Just... don't watch Elfen Lied."

Sure its gory, but i dont recall any tentacle rape  :? And sure, there are several scenes with pre pubescent diclonius Nana naked, but they are very spaced out and reasonably in context.
You don't have to strain yourself very hard to see the sexual connotations of violence, of amputating young naked girls limbs and the like to see that this was catering for a very very nasty groups special tastes. Its plot is non existant, its strung together by cliches, its the sexual violence that makes the show what it is and why I hate it so much. Its very easy to see the difference between sexual violence and violence portrayed as good wholesome gritty war like violence.

To date after watching close to every series that came out pre 2007 (when I stopped running the anime soc) There are still only a handful of shows I like:
Excel saga because it is the only show with good voice acting, and is an attack on anime in general.
Gantz: unpredictable
Evangelion: it was the first of that lot I had seen and at the time it was creative shame about all the rip offs.
Cowboy Bebop: It has a slow moving sleepy feel as opposed to the gaudy sensationalism of all other anime and the music is pretty good.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Freeky

Cowboy Bebop had the saddest ending evar. I will never watch it again.

I like .hack//SIGN, it was really interesting. And I used to have a friend who read/watched Excel Saga and would tell me about it. It made me laugh.

The Good Reverend Roger

No.  All anime is crap.  This is actual science.  Do not question it.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Freeky

That's the thing about actual science though, so many people DO question it.