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Started by Scilon Agent, March 12, 2014, 04:25:33 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

That said, I want to clarify: this is NOT some kind of gigantic, friendship-ending catastrophe, unless you want it to be one. This is a fairly trivial disagreement between friends about message board etiquette. I hope you will keep that in perspective.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

Not done reading the thread yet, and I'm doing crappy phone web tonight so it might be awhile, but has anyone stopped to consider that they might be picking the twinkies because they're SOFT? Low income people aren't known for being able to afford dental. Jesus fuck. Did you bother to ASK any of them why they picked the twinkies before deciding "those people" always make "poor choices"? And what the fuck is healthy about granola bars? They're as crappy as the twinkies.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

Not saying that to hate-fest on new guy, BTW. The whole thing just struck me as incredibly unfair. Maybe if the alternative to the twinkies was grapes or something, they'd still pick the crap, then you could say they made a  poor choice. But so do all the obese people in new cars cramming their faces with fast food and chickenfried steak. It's not a poor people thing.
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The Johnny

I really dont care, but ill just say this:

1. Make 2 possible options.
2. Make both of them options bad.
3. Complain about people choosing one of the bad options.
4. Indignation.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

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P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Johnny on March 14, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
I really dont care, but ill just say this:

1. Make 2 possible options.
2. Make both of them options bad.
3. Complain about people choosing one of the bad options.
4. Indignation.

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH DEMOCRACY? ARE YOU A MOTHERFUCKEN COMMIE TERRORIST OR SOMETHING??  :argh!:

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The Johnny

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2014, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 14, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
I really dont care, but ill just say this:

1. Make 2 possible options.
2. Make both of them options bad.
3. Complain about people choosing one of the bad options.
4. Indignation.

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH DEMOCRACY? ARE YOU A MOTHERFUCKEN COMMIE TERRORIST OR SOMETHING??  :argh!:

In this particular scenario im more for a "benevolent food dictatorship" propositionist :fnord:

I mean since already we "determined" adults cannot be trusted with making good decisions, its what naturally follows of course.
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hooplala

#51
Honestly Nigel I don't think anyone was shitting on the poster, I really think this perspective is in you and you should consider how you came to that conclusion. I say that as one who learned a lot from you in the past year, and I really think you're seeing something here in this particular case which doesn't exist.

Mind you, I'm not saying PD isn't too hard on n00bs... just not on THIS particular one. Seems to me this has been a pretty good case of attacking the idea and not the person behind it.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nobody understands birds on March 14, 2014, 02:47:59 AM
That said, I want to clarify: this is NOT some kind of gigantic, friendship-ending catastrophe, unless you want it to be one. This is a fairly trivial disagreement between friends about message board etiquette. I hope you will keep that in perspective.

Oh, sure.  It's just that:

Quote from: Nobody understands birds on March 13, 2014, 04:31:55 PM
and it's sort of turning into the same mentality as the Cellar,

Was a shot below the belt.  It was intended to do harm.
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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#53
Quote from: The Johnny on March 14, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
I really dont care, but ill just say this:

1. Make 2 possible options.
2. Make both of them options bad.
3. Complain about people choosing one of the bad options.
4. PD.

FTFY.    :lulz:

I'm just gonna leave the noobs alone entirely until they say something I'm interested in (I mean, aside from "hi, new guy!").  Otherwise, I don't want to hear about it unless there's admin issues involved. 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 14, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
I really dont care, but ill just say this:

1. Make 2 possible options.
2. Make both of them options bad.
3. Complain about people choosing one of the bad options.
4. PD.

FTFY.    :lulz:

I'm just gonna leave the noobs alone entirely until they say something I'm interested in (I mean, aside from "hi, new guy!").  Otherwise, I don't want to hear about it unless there's admin issues involved.

Sound policy. I tend to apply it across the board, to noobs, regulars and occasional posters alike

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2014, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 14, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
I really dont care, but ill just say this:

1. Make 2 possible options.
2. Make both of them options bad.
3. Complain about people choosing one of the bad options.
4. PD.

FTFY.    :lulz:

I'm just gonna leave the noobs alone entirely until they say something I'm interested in (I mean, aside from "hi, new guy!").  Otherwise, I don't want to hear about it unless there's admin issues involved.

Sound policy. I tend to apply it across the board, to noobs, regulars and occasional posters alike

I don't see too many options, here.  The regulars, not so much.  They're really why I'm here.  The noobs can sort themselves out.  And if that means we turn into TDS, who cares?  Not me.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nobody understands birds on March 14, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
I am guessing, from the way you have responded so far in this thread, that you will probably accuse me of using you as your whipping-boy AGAIN. Which I am pretty much completely sick of being accused of, in the same way I don't think it's at all OK that Alty decided that if people fail to understand him when he's making sweeping statements of judgement they aren't really his friends and they think he's a piece of shit etc etc. It's not rational, it's not right, and it's not FAIR to other people to demonize them like that.

I don't want to stop being friends but I want you to stop blowing  things out of all proportion and trying to make me feel like a piece of shit every time I disagree with you or ask you to consider changing your behavior. I don't like it, it doesn't feel good. It feels crappy and unfair.

So does being compared to Lumberjim/The Cellar.  That feels crappy and unfair as hell, especially for the crime of attacking an idea.

It was totally uncalled for.  At PD's worst, that is not a fair comparison.  It was a fucking horrible thing to say, but now somehow it's my responsibility?  No, no it isn't.  Nor is it a "trivial event", nor is the constant mention of our "continuing friendship", which at no point had I mentioned was at stake, at least in my eyes.  Whether or not it is in your eyes is up to you.





" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

It's the best comparison I could come up with. It feels to me like the direction the board is going in. Of course, I'm not a catastrophist who makes the absolute worst of everyone all the fucking time, so I wouldn't typify it as "being compared to Lumberjim" (you just made that bit up out of whole cloth) nor did I say "It's JUST LIKE the Cellar".

But you know, if you need this retard drama bullshit to fuel your hatred of the world at large and your sense that everyone's an enemy, go to town. I want none of it. I see you demonizing and categorizing EVERYONE who has fallen from your graces, everyone who doesn't post on the board anymore, and anyone who doesn't post often enough to keep you entertained. It's really only a matter of time before the sprayhose of your bottomless wrath and hatred covers every single person who considers you a friend with shit over some trivial disagreement, which is exactly what you're doing with me now.

You're sick, I get that. But you know what? I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. I have enough on my plate. More than enough, without some tetchy fucker who goes ballistic if people are critical of the culture on his favorite INTERNET BULLETIN BOARD.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nobody understands birds on March 14, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
It's really only a matter of time before the sprayhose of your bottomless wrath and hatred covers every single person who considers you a friend with shit over some trivial disagreement, which is exactly what you're doing with me now.

Um.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2014, 02:42:48 PM
Quote from: Nobody understands birds on March 14, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
I am guessing, from the way you have responded so far in this thread, that you will probably accuse me of using you as your whipping-boy AGAIN. Which I am pretty much completely sick of being accused of, in the same way I don't think it's at all OK that Alty decided that if people fail to understand him when he's making sweeping statements of judgement they aren't really his friends and they think he's a piece of shit etc etc. It's not rational, it's not right, and it's not FAIR to other people to demonize them like that.

I don't want to stop being friends but I want you to stop blowing  things out of all proportion and trying to make me feel like a piece of shit every time I disagree with you or ask you to consider changing your behavior. I don't like it, it doesn't feel good. It feels crappy and unfair.

So does being compared to Lumberjim/The Cellar.  That feels crappy and unfair as hell, especially for the crime of attacking an idea.

It was totally uncalled for.  At PD's worst, that is not a fair comparison.  It was a fucking horrible thing to say, but now somehow it's my responsibility?  No, no it isn't.  Nor is it a "trivial event", nor is the constant mention of our "continuing friendship", which at no point had I mentioned was at stake, at least in my eyes.  Whether or not it is in your eyes is up to you.

And guess what? NOBODY SAID IT WAS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. THAT PART'S ENTIRELY IN YOUR HEAD.

:hosrie:

Jesus fuck.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."