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[Junkenstein]

Further examples of the shamelessness of UK media outlets.

Major stories lately could include such thing as:

More massive hacks at Sony, to the point where it's looking like "Everything's gone. EVERYTHING". Emails, full details of employees, management, customers, the lot. Early releases apparently include details of exec's pay. I hear it's considerable, particularly considering how well Sony have been doing of late.

Indications that "Everything's gone" include films due to be released in 2015 appearing on torrent sites. Not one or two, we're talking at least 5. DVD screener quality.


Obviously totally unrelated to this, Various torrent sites are currently offline with rumours abound of the Pirate bay being raided (again) and shut down (again).


Yet most places, no mention of either, at all. Almost as if it's not worth mentioning. Depressingly, Sony losing all their shit really isn't. It's more the scale (and distribution) of loss and the highly co-incidental timings that I'm looking at here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30189029

Comment withdrawn where appropriate in light of crappy google fu.

Still, I say the timing is odd to say the least.

[MMIX]

Yeah, its weird. It was big news then it was gone. I checked the Beeb website because I knew I had seen this break initially, probably in the middle of the night when I was watching the BBC news channel at obscure o'clock. Then I got to thinking. Seems to me [though I could easily be wrong] that news is only "News" when the bodies are still buried, the plane is still missing, the kidnapped girls are still being sought for. Nope, scratch that, the plane is still missing and the schoolgirls are still missing, and gthe "News" is never going to tell you where the bodies are buried.

I got nothing

[Demolition Squid]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-torture-report-public-opinion/

Data shows that popular opinion on the use of torture by the U.S. government has subtly shifted since 2004, when Pew Research Center began polling Americans on the subject. Pew asked whether torture used against suspected terrorists to gain important information is justified, finding a majority of respondents (53 percent) said torture could never or only rarely be justified. But over the next five years, public opinion slowly reversed.

I've avoided talking to my dad about this because I figured I could guess his views. I was right. Last night he said 'Everyone knew they were torturing these people. Why does it matter how they were doing it?'

The thing is, the more I've thought about it the more I can see his point.

Everyone HAS known for a long time that America has been torturing and killing with impunity. I suppose there's the issue of the CIA lying about the extent of it and how useful it was... but in the grand scheme of things those don't matter. Would it have made it more acceptable if they'd just been brazen about it?

If you accept a little torture for the right reasons, you have already stopped seeing the victim as human, so it matters very little what else is done to them. And the right wing have been working hard for years to justify that 'little torture'. It works for Jack Baur, right?

[MMIX]

Its not just America, though. I don't believe for a minute that British hands are clean. The "Free World" seems to be guilt-free when it comes to torture etc, etc.

[Demolition Squid]

Its not just America, though. I don't believe for a minute that British hands are clean. The "Free World" seems to be guilt-free when it comes to torture etc, etc.

I'd be surprised if we actually did any torturing directly, but it wasn't even a secret that we handed people over, was it? Everyone knows we've been doing that.

[MMIX]

The implication that "Indirect torture is ok" seems to be an outrageous use of language along the lines of "Extraordinary rendition". If you knowingly and complicitly hand a gun to someone then, in my book, you are as culpable as the guy who pulls the trigger. YMMV but the victim is still shot/tortured/whatever.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I'm kinda thinking that from a government who are blowing the piss out of schoolchildren with robots, beating or assfucking a few punters to death hardly even registers on the outrage factor. Is this a publicity stunt or some shit? Look, our crimes against humanity are limited to a couple of hundred people. We're not really that evil after all. 

[Doktor Howl]

One follows the other.  If a nation will torture people, it will do anything.

[P3nT4gR4m]

That's my point, tho. They've already done pretty much everything. Now there's mass outrage cos they did a minor one. Yes - I'm saying torture is lesser than murdering little kids. I suppose that's debatable, tho. Maybe

[Doktor Howl]

That's my point, tho. They've already done pretty much everything. Now there's mass outrage cos they did a minor one. Yes - I'm saying torture is lesser than murdering little kids. I suppose that's debatable, tho. Maybe

There comes a point where there's no point assigning relative values.

We passed that point in mid-2003.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Troof. Now, a decade and change later, it seems kinda like the outrage is - after the horse has bolted. Coupled with the fact that a significant number aren't outraged. They're justifying it. Humanity is sick. We have social cancer. I knew this but was happily ignoring the fact. Hiding it behind a vague hatred of our species. I'm pissed as a motherfucker that this latest in a long line of atrocity is kinda ramming the point home. Fuck this report! 

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

This makes me want to re-read Men Who Stare at Goats. The author suspected that the Abu Ghraib photos were some kind of psy-op(Why else would you take pictures?). His theory that it was to show future detainees, but now I wonder if having them plastered all over the news wasnt the point all along.

[Telarus]

Further examples of the shamelessness of UK media outlets.

Major stories lately could include such thing as:

More massive hacks at Sony, to the point where it's looking like "Everything's gone. EVERYTHING". Emails, full details of employees, management, customers, the lot. Early releases apparently include details of exec's pay. I hear it's considerable, particularly considering how well Sony have been doing of late.

Indications that "Everything's gone" include films due to be released in 2015 appearing on torrent sites. Not one or two, we're talking at least 5. DVD screener quality.


Obviously totally unrelated to this, Various torrent sites are currently offline with rumours abound of the Pirate bay being raided (again) and shut down (again).


Yet most places, no mention of either, at all. Almost as if it's not worth mentioning. Depressingly, Sony losing all their shit really isn't. It's more the scale (and distribution) of loss and the highly co-incidental timings that I'm looking at here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30189029

Comment withdrawn where appropriate in light of crappy google fu.

Still, I say the timing is odd to say the least.

Business Insider is still tracking some of the fallout. Then there's the: a Sony exec calls Angelina Jolie 'a minimally talented spoiled brat.' story...

http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-execs-email-inboxes-leaked-hackers-2014-12
https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/angelina-jolie-awkward-run-in-with-amy-pascal-in-wake-of-sony-hacking-scandal-191302798.html

[Trivial]

[MMIX]

LOL I could watch that all day long