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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Faust on December 26, 2016, 10:27:24 AM

Title: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on December 26, 2016, 10:27:24 AM
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Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on December 26, 2016, 11:08:26 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 26, 2016, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: MMIX on December 25, 2016, 11:39:41 PM
Fuck Fuck Fuck
RIP George Michael
OK 2016 we get the message you can just fucking stop now, 'k?

Goddamit.

And the real shit is that all we have to look forward to is 2017. Whoop-de-do  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on December 26, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2016, 01:45:12 AM
Random complaint: I have been handy about the house since I was a kid, and have been fixing up old houses since 1998. I used to work for a company that specialized in old house restoration, I used to co-own a company that specialized in vintage hardware, and have done work on at least a dozen old houses. I specialized in vintage plumbing, but I am also fluent with electrical, framing, and basic finish carpentry. I can lay tile, and have taught others to lay tile. I used to, naively, think that the reason people invariably talk to me like I have no idea what I'm doing was because I was young. As I got older I thought they were underestimating my age, and therefore my experience. Now that I'm all old and gray-haired, it's impossible to ignore that it's just my vagina that leads people to talk to me like I am clueless and helpless around home improvement.

I'm so, so fucking sick of it.

In general, I'm sick of being talked to like I'm incompetent just because I'm female.

In general, I'm fucking sick of people underestimating women just because we have tits and vaginas.

My own household is an egalitarian dream, but as soon as I interact with people outside of our little paradise, it's back to being talked to like I'm a retarded version of a man.

I am horrified that this is the world I'm sending my daughters out into; a world where, by virtue of their sex, they will be treated as nincompoops by default.

Fuck all of this bullshit.

That sounds frustrating.... and like you've just volunteered to bounce questions off on building a house which is something I know nothing about barring a couple of weeks of reading, and scares the shit out of me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2016, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: rong on December 26, 2016, 05:09:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2016, 01:45:12 AM
Random complaint: I have been handy about the house since I was a kid, and have been fixing up old houses since 1998. I used to work for a company that specialized in old house restoration, I used to co-own a company that specialized in vintage hardware, and have done work on at least a dozen old houses. I specialized in vintage plumbing, but I am also fluent with electrical, framing, and basic finish carpentry. I can lay tile, and have taught others to lay tile. I used to, naively, think that the reason people invariably talk to me like I have no idea what I'm doing was because I was young. As I got older I thought they were underestimating my age, and therefore my experience. Now that I'm all old and gray-haired, it's impossible to ignore that it's just my vagina that leads people to talk to me like I am clueless and helpless around home improvement.

I'm so, so fucking sick of it.

In general, I'm sick of being talked to like I'm incompetent just because I'm female.

In general, I'm fucking sick of people underestimating women just because we have tits and vaginas.

My own household is an egalitarian dream, but as soon as I interact with people outside of our little paradise, it's back to being talked to like I'm a retarded version of a man.

I am horrified that this is the world I'm sending my daughters out into; a world where, by virtue of their sex, they will be treated as nincompoops by default.

Fuck all of this bullshit.

have you considered the possibility that people talk to you like you're an idiot, not because of your gender, but rather - most everybody is an idiot? 

not saying that's the case - but, you know - it's possible . . .

I might buy it if men were talked to the same way, but on average they are not. For example, people rarely second-guess men's firsthand experiences, or suggest to them that they are merely so inobservant that they are completely misinterpreting their own experiences and observations.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2016, 04:26:33 PM
Quote from: Xaz on December 26, 2016, 09:19:22 AM
Quote from: rong on December 26, 2016, 05:09:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2016, 01:45:12 AM
Random complaint: I have been handy about the house since I was a kid, and have been fixing up old houses since 1998. I used to work for a company that specialized in old house restoration, I used to co-own a company that specialized in vintage hardware, and have done work on at least a dozen old houses. I specialized in vintage plumbing, but I am also fluent with electrical, framing, and basic finish carpentry. I can lay tile, and have taught others to lay tile. I used to, naively, think that the reason people invariably talk to me like I have no idea what I'm doing was because I was young. As I got older I thought they were underestimating my age, and therefore my experience. Now that I'm all old and gray-haired, it's impossible to ignore that it's just my vagina that leads people to talk to me like I am clueless and helpless around home improvement.

I'm so, so fucking sick of it.

In general, I'm sick of being talked to like I'm incompetent just because I'm female.

In general, I'm fucking sick of people underestimating women just because we have tits and vaginas.

My own household is an egalitarian dream, but as soon as I interact with people outside of our little paradise, it's back to being talked to like I'm a retarded version of a man.

I am horrified that this is the world I'm sending my daughters out into; a world where, by virtue of their sex, they will be treated as nincompoops by default.

Fuck all of this bullshit.

have you considered the possibility that people talk to you like you're an idiot, not because of your gender, but rather - most everybody is an idiot? 

not saying that's the case - but, you know - it's possible . . .

:kingmeh:

Ever feel like you're having the same conversations over and over?

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2016, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: Faust on December 26, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2016, 01:45:12 AM
Random complaint: I have been handy about the house since I was a kid, and have been fixing up old houses since 1998. I used to work for a company that specialized in old house restoration, I used to co-own a company that specialized in vintage hardware, and have done work on at least a dozen old houses. I specialized in vintage plumbing, but I am also fluent with electrical, framing, and basic finish carpentry. I can lay tile, and have taught others to lay tile. I used to, naively, think that the reason people invariably talk to me like I have no idea what I'm doing was because I was young. As I got older I thought they were underestimating my age, and therefore my experience. Now that I'm all old and gray-haired, it's impossible to ignore that it's just my vagina that leads people to talk to me like I am clueless and helpless around home improvement.

I'm so, so fucking sick of it.

In general, I'm sick of being talked to like I'm incompetent just because I'm female.

In general, I'm fucking sick of people underestimating women just because we have tits and vaginas.

My own household is an egalitarian dream, but as soon as I interact with people outside of our little paradise, it's back to being talked to like I'm a retarded version of a man.

I am horrified that this is the world I'm sending my daughters out into; a world where, by virtue of their sex, they will be treated as nincompoops by default.

Fuck all of this bullshit.

That sounds frustrating.... and like you've just volunteered to bounce questions off on building a house which is something I know nothing about barring a couple of weeks of reading, and scares the shit out of me.

I'm happy to answer any questions I can about anything I have experience with. Home improvement is both tiresome and incredibly gratifying.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 26, 2016, 04:58:16 PM
I noticed my sink had a mild dripping leak last night, so I decided to do something about it. I'm happy to say after an hour's work it now has a much more severe leak.

So yeah anything you want to ask let me know, Faust.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on December 26, 2016, 05:06:51 PM
I know how to hand Nigel tools, I'm great at it. Every time I help, I get a candy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Quote from: Just Alty, Please on December 26, 2016, 05:06:51 PM
I know how to hand Nigel tools, I'm great at it. Every time I help, I get a candy.

You are the best tool-hander ever.

It's why I have to keep you in muffins.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on December 26, 2016, 09:53:58 PM
Quote from: Just Alty, Please on December 26, 2016, 05:06:51 PM
I know how to hand Nigel tools, I'm great at it. Every time I help, I get a candy.

Practical applications for Pavlov ITT.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2016, 12:41:27 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 26, 2016, 04:58:16 PM
I noticed my sink had a mild dripping leak last night, so I decided to do something about it. I'm happy to say after an hour's work it now has a much more severe leak.

So yeah anything you want to ask let me know, Faust.

When I have a leak I have essentially gotten to the point where I just automatically replace everything from the drain to the wall. Trying to fix used drain lines that aren't working anymore is guaranteed to take at least six times longer than just replacing them, and you'll end up replacing them in the end anyway. If you just start from "Shit, gotta replace everything" at least you'll be prepared to spend the $30 up front and then you can just enjoy the rest of your weekend instead of making innumerable trips to the hardware store and spending $15 on fix-it shit that won't work, and THEN spending $30 on a new drain and P-trap.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2016, 12:42:16 AM
ASK ME. ASK ME HOW I KNOW THIS.

It took me much longer than it really should have to figure this out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 27, 2016, 04:39:39 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2016, 12:42:16 AM
ASK ME. ASK ME HOW I KNOW THIS.

It took me much longer than it really should have to figure this out.
How do you know this?

I called my landlord and he's fixing it tomorrow.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on December 27, 2016, 09:13:20 AM
I have had a leaky shower for over a year  :sad:

I have bypassed the problem but to properly fix it I think we're going to have to fully replace it. I don't think my DIY skills are up to redoing a bathroom unfortunately.

On the other hand, one of my key skills is ignoring small problems until they become big ones so I can probably get another six months at least out of the hose valve I added before it or my girlfriend finally gives in.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 27, 2016, 11:53:50 AM
Funeral's today. I have been awake since 2:30 am. This'll be an adventure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2016, 05:41:04 PM
I drove up the mountain today, because icy mountain roads in a two wheel drive are kinda my thing.

Plus, I was listening to a mashup of Boz Scaggs and The Frost Heaves, so there was no fear in Mudville.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on December 27, 2016, 05:53:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2016, 05:41:04 PM

Plus, I was listening to a mashup of Boz Scaggs and The Frost Heaves, so there was no fear in Mudville.

I'd be interested in hearing that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2016, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 27, 2016, 05:53:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2016, 05:41:04 PM

Plus, I was listening to a mashup of Boz Scaggs and The Frost Heaves, so there was no fear in Mudville.

I'd be interested in hearing that.

Sure.  I've got the file on my home comp.

And then Carrie Fisher died.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on December 27, 2016, 06:21:13 PM
RIP Princess Leia Organa
and its still only the 27th :(

ETA
QuotePlease honor carrie fisher's wishes and include in her obituaries that she "drowned in moonlight, strangled by her own bra."
explanation@ https://twitter.com/threelisabeth/status/813807950355517441
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 27, 2016, 04:39:39 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2016, 12:42:16 AM
ASK ME. ASK ME HOW I KNOW THIS.

It took me much longer than it really should have to figure this out.
How do you know this?

Because I gotta always learn the hard way.

Quote
I called my landlord and he's fixing it tomorrow.  :lulz:

Shit, it's somebody else's problem... even better.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2016, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Xaz on December 27, 2016, 09:13:20 AM
I have had a leaky shower for over a year  :sad:

I have bypassed the problem but to properly fix it I think we're going to have to fully replace it. I don't think my DIY skills are up to redoing a bathroom unfortunately.

On the other hand, one of my key skills is ignoring small problems until they become big ones so I can probably get another six months at least out of the hose valve I added before it or my girlfriend finally gives in.

You probably just need a new stem valve gasket, depending on the age of the shower. They're super easy to replace.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on December 28, 2016, 05:07:27 PM
Have you considered that it might be the stem valve gasket, instead?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2016, 11:42:44 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2016, 11:44:44 PM
Unrelated to anything, I just learned that our facilities department is abbreviated FAPAIM. I don't know what it stands for, but FAPAIM  sent me a confirmation email for my request to have our hazardous waste removed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2016, 11:46:20 PM
Hopefully they have good enough FAPAIM that they don't get contamination everywhere.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 29, 2016, 12:15:02 AM
New record for driving down the mountain today.  14 minutes 52 seconds from the parking lot to route 86.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on December 29, 2016, 06:39:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2016, 11:46:20 PM
Hopefully they have good enough FAPAIM that they don't get contamination everywhere.

If not, let's hope they at least follow proper Jeopardous Instances of Zealous Manipulation Originating Perilous Results protocol.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on December 29, 2016, 01:17:56 PM
I'm pretty sure it's all part of Containment Under Managerial Review And Guidance.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Pergamos on December 29, 2016, 10:33:28 PM
I am binge watching Preacher.  It's as good as I expected it to be. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on December 30, 2016, 12:40:52 AM
Trying to figure out why facebook translates Schlepper as coyote.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on December 30, 2016, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on December 30, 2016, 12:40:52 AM
Trying to figure out why facebook translates Schlepper as coyote.

Racism, most likely.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 29, 2016, 06:39:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2016, 11:46:20 PM
Hopefully they have good enough FAPAIM that they don't get contamination everywhere.

If not, let's hope they at least follow proper Jeopardous Instances of Zealous Manipulation Originating Perilous Results protocol.

Quote from: Junkenstein on December 29, 2016, 01:17:56 PM
I'm pretty sure it's all part of Containment Under Managerial Review And Guidance.


:lulz:

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 04:40:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 30, 2016, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on December 30, 2016, 12:40:52 AM
Trying to figure out why facebook translates Schlepper as coyote.

Racism, most likely.

Yeah, that'd be my guess as well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 04:41:28 PM
I have a nasty cold, but it's a lovely day and I get to do behavioral assessment today.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on December 30, 2016, 04:49:17 PM
I'm going to New Orleans for New Years'.


There's a greater than 50% chance I'll end up moving there, one day.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Sung Low on December 30, 2016, 07:37:10 PM
The lost highway seems to be where I'm at. I don't need any of it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on December 30, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 30, 2016, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on December 30, 2016, 12:40:52 AM
Trying to figure out why facebook translates Schlepper as coyote.

Racism, most likely.

Figured out it was a person.  Google said it was a tractor.  Brain was stuck on trying to figure out the tractor-coyote connection. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on December 30, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
"Schlep" - to haul, or carry; usually awkwardly or laborious
"coyote" - slang term for someone who transports undocumented immigrants over the Mexico-US border, typically cruelly and/or with ill intent.

Use Starbuck's pebbles to make a connection.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 11:53:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 30, 2016, 04:49:17 PM
I'm going to New Orleans for New Years'.


There's a greater than 50% chance I'll end up moving there, one day.

That's one place I would really like to visit. There's a big bio conference being held there this year that I'll be expected to attend starting next year (when I have results from my experiment currently in progress), but of course next year it's in San Francisco (lame!) and I have no idea when it'll be in New Orleans again. Boo!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 11:55:04 PM
Fueled with feminist spunk from reading Carol Tavris, I added a definition to Urban Dictionary this morning. I've never had one approved so fast... it was approved in mere seconds.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Penis+envy&defid=10815361
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on December 31, 2016, 03:20:10 AM
I haven't been to New Orleans since before Katrina but goddamn I loved hanging out in that town. Out of any city in the states it is the one that feels the most West Indian.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 11:53:20 PMSan Francisco (lame!)

I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels this way. :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 31, 2016, 03:30:41 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on December 31, 2016, 03:20:10 AM
I haven't been to New Orleans since before Katrina but goddamn I loved hanging out in that town. Out of any city in the states it is the one that feels the most West Indian.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 11:53:20 PMSan Francisco (lame!)

I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels this way. :lulz:

It's overpriced and crowded and hilly and it smells like pee. I mean, there are nice things about it, but there are nice things about Fresno, too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 03, 2017, 05:22:02 PM
Last week, I told one of my undergrads that being late is extremely frowned-upon in my lab. She wanted to come in today at 9. Sure enough, she is 13 minutes late and counting. Grrrrrrr.

Also, for some reason I got made a Reddit science mod. I didn't ask, nobody asked me. WTF.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 03, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
So, I've been spending some time on a couple of stand-alone forums that cater to the right, as a "know your enemy" thing.

I have seriously never heard so much whinging in my life.  They cry because Hollywood doesn't like them.  They cry because Disney isn't Ayn Rand enough for them.  They cry because Black men date white women.  They cry because nobody gets their alt-right philosophy and/or political views.  They cry because Trump won and liberals won't "respect" him.  Also because THEY WON but NOTHING CHANGED. 

But the best part is what happens when a person takes one step off the reservation for any reason.  One guy brought up the fact that the ocean level is unequivocally rising, and they descended on him like rabid seagulls.  He was a 4 year member, and they drove him off in less than 2 days, and apparently doxxed him for good measure.  This is a board with about 70 active (every day active) members, and about 200 occasionally-active people.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 03, 2017, 10:43:35 PM
That's almost impressive. Will be interested to hear how this degenerates further.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 04, 2017, 12:46:23 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 03, 2017, 10:43:35 PM
That's almost impressive. Will be interested to hear how this degenerates further.

What's amazing is that the people who ARE butthurt about the election fall into two camps:  Die hard bernie bros and conservatives. 

The former because Karl Rove told them to be mad, and the latter because they know things aren't going to work out for them but they cannot ever admit they were wrong, especially in "victory".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 01:25:02 AM
I think that means that society is still at a point where around 50% of the population is happy to kick itself in the bollocks while declaring it the best thing to do.

And how should Disney be more Randian? Do they want the princes to run around raping people or what?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 04, 2017, 01:26:48 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 01:25:02 AM
I think that means that society is still at a point where around 50% of the population is happy to kick itself in the bollocks while declaring it the best thing to do.

And how should Disney be more Randian? Do they want the princes to run around raping people or what?

1.  Virginia coal miners - who voted for Trump, almost to a man - are now suddenly concerned that their lung ailments will no longer be insurable.  whoopsie.  Can't do nothing for ya, man.

2.  I am told there are too many "morals" in Disney movies.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 01:31:11 AM
To the first, I bet there's going to be a bunch more like that that line up with similar ironies. It's just inevitable based around the demographics.

To the second, it's tempting to request a link but I doubt I can handle that level of stupid at the moment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 04, 2017, 01:36:12 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 01:31:11 AM
To the first, I bet there's going to be a bunch more like that that line up with similar ironies. It's just inevitable based around the demographics.

To the second, it's tempting to request a link but I doubt I can handle that level of stupid at the moment.

Just imagine a room full of RP.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 02:03:37 AM
...Arguing with Idiot eric about whether brother nihil has set it on fire or not. Eric's choking but pretty sure there is no fire. RP has proof from RT.com that fire raped a heap of kids in indonesia and has an email to prove it. Brother Nihil can't read and in a fit of self loathing sets himself on fire before complaining it hurts. Eric can't move to put him out because we're still not sure fire exists. RP gently pisses on Nihil and admits the room feels a little warm. As Nihil slowly smoulders to death he causes the other occupants in the facility to need to evacuate while Eric and RP insist this is over-reacting and the whole place is fine.





Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 04, 2017, 02:06:53 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 02:03:37 AM
...Arguing with Idiot eric about whether brother nihil has set it on fire or not. Eric's choking but pretty sure there is no fire. RP has proof from RT.com that fire raped a heap of kids in indonesia and has an email to prove it. Brother Nihil can't read and in a fit of self loathing sets himself on fire before complaining it hurts. Eric can't move to put him out because we're still not sure fire exists. RP gently pisses on Nihil and admits the room feels a little warm. As Nihil slowly smoulders to death he causes the other occupants in the facility to need to evacuate while Eric and RP insist this is over-reacting and the whole place is fine.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 02:15:51 AM
The sequel has RWHN rising from the ashes with proof it was all the doing of big marijuana all along.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 04, 2017, 02:19:16 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 02:15:51 AM
The sequel has RWHN rising from the ashes with proof it was all the doing of big marijuana all along.

Seen his stuff recently?

He's a full-out republican twat now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 02:27:36 AM
I hadn't, but I'm not surprised at all.

What's that ill fitting suit fucking about with now? That I WILL take a link to because it'll be goddamn hilarious.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 04, 2017, 02:30:14 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 02:27:36 AM
I hadn't, but I'm not surprised at all.

What's that ill fitting suit fucking about with now? That I WILL take a link to because it'll be goddamn hilarious.

He's talking about the exact same thing, in the exact same manner, only now LePage's cock has smashed his tonsils flat.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 02:34:18 AM
 :lulz:

Thanks, I needed that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on January 04, 2017, 05:04:45 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 30, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
"Schlep" - to haul, or carry; usually awkwardly or laborious
"coyote" - slang term for someone who transports undocumented immigrants over the Mexico-US border, typically cruelly and/or with ill intent.

Use Starbuck's pebbles to make a connection.
(http://i.imgur.com/rHDK1OZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on January 04, 2017, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on January 04, 2017, 05:04:45 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 30, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
"Schlep" - to haul, or carry; usually awkwardly or laborious
"coyote" - slang term for someone who transports undocumented immigrants over the Mexico-US border, typically cruelly and/or with ill intent.

Use Starbuck's pebbles to make a connection.
(http://i.imgur.com/rHDK1OZ.jpg)

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 04, 2017, 10:10:43 PM
Testing 1 2 3

Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on January 04, 2017, 10:14:39 PM
TRANSMISSION RECEIVED LEGATE. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO REPORT?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 04, 2017, 10:20:16 PM
I'm still alive, firstly, and on winter break so I figured I'd drop in and say hello to everyone. How's it going?

Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on January 04, 2017, 10:29:42 PM
Congratulations on surviving 2016, we should probably take a census soon and make sure everyone else escaped it's clutches. Things not too bad, roger is doing a survival guide for the coming current weird times. Otherwise everything else is quiet, everyone counting down the dread to the 20th.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 04, 2017, 10:37:23 PM
I'll have to check that out. Also how to figure out this Tapatalk thing. Almost done with college--next semester is my last of I don't fuck anything up. I probably won't, since it's all biology courses with the exception of physics II. Have to apply to PhD programs in the next couple of months. Moving in with Villager after I graduate, actually, so I'm doing somewhat of a slow move where I bring over some stuff and leave it there every weekend.

Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2017, 02:45:59 AM
So, I spend a good chunk of the day following the opening of this session of the senate.

I told you guys the future was flimsy and without foundation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 05, 2017, 02:52:15 AM
Any particular highlights?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 05, 2017, 03:09:07 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 04, 2017, 01:26:48 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 04, 2017, 01:25:02 AM
I think that means that society is still at a point where around 50% of the population is happy to kick itself in the bollocks while declaring it the best thing to do.

And how should Disney be more Randian? Do they want the princes to run around raping people or what?

1.  Virginia coal miners - who voted for Trump, almost to a man - are now suddenly concerned that their lung ailments will no longer be insurable.  whoopsie.  Can't do nothing for ya, man.

2.  I am told there are too many "morals" in Disney movies.

Ayn Rand was obsessed with morals. She had her own view of morality, for sure, but she certainly didn't consider herself without morals.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 05, 2017, 07:12:29 AM
Twid! I'm glad to see you're still kicking!

Roger! Fuck the Senate in the earhole with an unsharpened pencil!

Hoopla! I am absolutely ENGORGED with envy of your Canadianness right now!

There's a whole lot more I want to say here but I'm actually afraid to put it in writing on the internet. So that's the kind of country we are now. I am actually having trouble typing because I am literally crying and shaking with rage right this second.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 05, 2017, 02:52:15 AM
Any particular highlights?


They pulled a stunt with the ethics overwatch, then retracted it to look reasonable.

Then they opened the bill beginning the destruction of the ACA with a 51:48 vote.  Then moved on to some anti-LGBT legislation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 05, 2017, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 05, 2017, 02:52:15 AM
Any particular highlights?


They pulled a stunt with the ethics overwatch, then retracted it to look reasonable.

Then they opened the bill beginning the destruction of the ACA with a 58:41 vote.  Then moved on to some anti-LGBT legislation.

Dammit. Not that it's surprising. I'd heard about the ethics thing, hadn't heard about ACA or the anti LGBT stuff. They're not wasting any time, I see.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2017, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 05, 2017, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 05, 2017, 02:52:15 AM
Any particular highlights?


They pulled a stunt with the ethics overwatch, then retracted it to look reasonable.

Then they opened the bill beginning the destruction of the ACA with a 58:41 vote.  Then moved on to some anti-LGBT legislation.

Dammit. Not that it's surprising. I'd heard about the ethics thing, hadn't heard about ACA or the anti LGBT stuff. They're not wasting any time, I see.

They've had this lined up for months.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2017, 03:31:45 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 05, 2017, 07:12:29 AM

Roger! Fuck the Senate in the earhole with an unsharpened pencil!


I was thinking in the ear with Dongzilla.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2017, 08:39:11 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 04, 2017, 10:20:16 PM
I'm still alive, firstly, and on winter break so I figured I'd drop in and say hello to everyone. How's it going?

Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

So far, so good: I am getting over a nasty bout with a cold that went into my lungmeat, and Alty and I have almost accomplished our goal for Winter Break, remodeling the bathroom. It's nice to see you around these parts!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2017, 08:40:58 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 05, 2017, 07:12:29 AM
Twid! I'm glad to see you're still kicking!

Roger! Fuck the Senate in the earhole with an unsharpened pencil!

Hoopla! I am absolutely ENGORGED with envy of your Canadianness right now!

There's a whole lot more I want to say here but I'm actually afraid to put it in writing on the internet. So that's the kind of country we are now. I am actually having trouble typing because I am literally crying and shaking with rage right this second.

Oh shit, dude. I hope that whatever it is, it's not something too bad. :( Although, what with being also a m ember of this society, I am guessing that it's something shitty and pervasive and getting worse.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2017, 08:48:54 PM
I was spending a little time yesterday thinking about how completely insane it is that human beings invented currency to act as a representation of real resources, and then essentially immediately commenced destroying real resources as rapidly as possible in order to amass the largest amount of currency. Literally; the destruction of the rail system and development of the highway system was entirely about figuring out ways to sell more oil to people to unnecessarily burn in exchange for currency. Same with basically all other real resources. That oil would probably have come in real handy, metered out judiciously over the next 1000 years... but nope, we had to get it out of the ground and burn it as fast as we could, for "the economy".

This, in a nutshell, is why, if there are spacefaring intelligent animals from other planets, we will never meet them. It's not like we're going to see them before they see us, and if they see us, they're definitely going to put us in quarantine, for a variety of ethical reasons.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
So....I have about 50 billion private messages and posts I've not read.

Mostly because my internet was broke right up until just before Xmas, then I was off travelling, then I came back immediately to work, and I've not had a good nights sleep since work ended.

Also being a little bit lazy.  But mostly the former
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 05, 2017, 09:11:22 PM
You bastard, I had 3 gold teeth on "in jail".

How goes life? I'm on a magical mystery tour to hull and peterborough. So far it's all shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2017, 09:14:22 PM
Hull is apparently the best city in the UK, according to the US Ambassador.  Shortly before he was asked to step down.

Life continues much as it did, only my internet now works, after a 5 week epic battle with customer support. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 05, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
Glad to see you're alive Cain.

What depths of customer support hell did you delve to?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2017, 10:14:01 PM
Well, I think I asked to speak to so many supervisors that the CEO was ultimately handling my complaint.

They were contacting me by email.  They were having me run endless series of tests which, by their own admission, were useless.  Finally, 5 weeks after it began, they sent a guy out, who resolved the issue (which was with their on-site server) in 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2017, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 05, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
So....I have about 50 billion private messages and posts I've not read.

Mostly because my internet was broke right up until just before Xmas, then I was off travelling, then I came back immediately to work, and I've not had a good nights sleep since work ended.

Also being a little bit lazy.  But mostly the former

CAIN YOU ARE BACK! THIS IS VERY YAY!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2017, 12:25:50 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 05, 2017, 10:14:01 PM
Well, I think I asked to speak to so many supervisors that the CEO was ultimately handling my complaint.

They were contacting me by email.  They were having me run endless series of tests which, by their own admission, were useless.  Finally, 5 weeks after it began, they sent a guy out, who resolved the issue (which was with their on-site server) in 10 minutes.

Customer service at its finest.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 06, 2017, 08:03:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2017, 08:40:58 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 05, 2017, 07:12:29 AM
Twid! I'm glad to see you're still kicking!

Roger! Fuck the Senate in the earhole with an unsharpened pencil!

Hoopla! I am absolutely ENGORGED with envy of your Canadianness right now!

There's a whole lot more I want to say here but I'm actually afraid to put it in writing on the internet. So that's the kind of country we are now. I am actually having trouble typing because I am literally crying and shaking with rage right this second.

Oh shit, dude. I hope that whatever it is, it's not something too bad. :( Although, what with being also a m ember of this society, I am guessing that it's something shitty and pervasive and getting worse.


ECHGF and mini-ECH are both gonna lose their health insurance because of those fucking snakes in skin suits in DC. I can put them both on mine easily enough. The kid is free and I can add ECHGF for $25 a month. I'm fortunate to have a great union job with ridiculously great benefits.

BUT.

Doing that will most likely cost ECHGF her financial aid, as I understand things. So we'll be fortunate enough that we'll be able to keep scraping by and I know a whole lot of people aren't all that certain about being able to do that and I'm thankful. But that'll be the end of our dreams of maybe sniffing the tail end of the middle-class 5 or 6 years from now and I'm more than a little salty about that given how hard I've been working to make that possible by making sure I bring in enough by myself to keep us afloat financially so she can focus on school.

That, and the much more general part where I woke up in a country that just did that to, like, 20+ million people and where I'm suddenly actually kind of reticent to publicly make a crack about how I hope I live long enough to find myself in the same room with Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan for a few minutes so I can show them what it's like to desperately need access to health care and have it be denied to you by some fucking psychopath.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 06, 2017, 03:44:00 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 06, 2017, 08:03:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2017, 08:40:58 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 05, 2017, 07:12:29 AM
Twid! I'm glad to see you're still kicking!

Roger! Fuck the Senate in the earhole with an unsharpened pencil!

Hoopla! I am absolutely ENGORGED with envy of your Canadianness right now!

There's a whole lot more I want to say here but I'm actually afraid to put it in writing on the internet. So that's the kind of country we are now. I am actually having trouble typing because I am literally crying and shaking with rage right this second.

Oh shit, dude. I hope that whatever it is, it's not something too bad. :( Although, what with being also a m ember of this society, I am guessing that it's something shitty and pervasive and getting worse.


ECHGF and mini-ECH are both gonna lose their health insurance because of those fucking snakes in skin suits in DC. I can put them both on mine easily enough. The kid is free and I can add ECHGF for $25 a month. I'm fortunate to have a great union job with ridiculously great benefits.

BUT.

Doing that will most likely cost ECHGF her financial aid, as I understand things. So we'll be fortunate enough that we'll be able to keep scraping by and I know a whole lot of people aren't all that certain about being able to do that and I'm thankful. But that'll be the end of our dreams of maybe sniffing the tail end of the middle-class 5 or 6 years from now and I'm more than a little salty about that given how hard I've been working to make that possible by making sure I bring in enough by myself to keep us afloat financially so she can focus on school.

That, and the much more general part where I woke up in a country that just did that to, like, 20+ million people and where I'm suddenly actually kind of reticent to publicly make a crack about how I hope I live long enough to find myself in the same room with Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan for a few minutes so I can show them what it's like to desperately need access to health care and have it be denied to you by some fucking psychopath.

Whoa, why will it cost her her financial aid? She should NOT give up school, for anything. Also, yeah, FUCK those bureaucrats. It's bullshit. Healthcare is no fucking joke.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 06, 2017, 09:24:49 PM
Twid lives!

Will all those owed money by him please form an orderly queue.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 06, 2017, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 06, 2017, 09:24:49 PM
Twid lives!

Will all those owed money by him please form an orderly queue.

You've inspired a new pic
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2017, 11:44:51 PM
Annnnnd blood tests back, TGRR is an evil diabetic.

Best.  Day.  EVER.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2017, 01:29:02 AM
How contagious are you?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2017, 02:10:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 05, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
So....I have about 50 billion private messages and posts I've not read.

Mostly because my internet was broke right up until just before Xmas, then I was off travelling, then I came back immediately to work, and I've not had a good nights sleep since work ended.

Also being a little bit lazy.  But mostly the former

Just to add, I'm at work for the next 3 nights, so my chances of catching up on the rest of these before then are practically nil.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 07, 2017, 02:11:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2017, 01:29:02 AM
How contagious are you?

My wife is Typhoid Mary, apparently.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 07, 2017, 02:13:16 AM
Ah that sucks, Roger
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 07, 2017, 02:17:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2017, 02:10:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 05, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
So....I have about 50 billion private messages and posts I've not read.

Mostly because my internet was broke right up until just before Xmas, then I was off travelling, then I came back immediately to work, and I've not had a good nights sleep since work ended.

Also being a little bit lazy.  But mostly the former

Just to add, I'm at work for the next 3 nights, so my chances of catching up on the rest of these before then are practically nil.

Well to help you, if it involves rp it can be safely ignored.

That's saved you about 90% of the shite I would guess.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 07, 2017, 02:25:27 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 07, 2017, 02:13:16 AM
Ah that sucks, Roger

Life goes on.

And nature wants you dead by age 40.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 07, 2017, 10:56:57 AM
Remember, guys, if you stayed home to work and catch up on bills while your family went on vacation to Europe for a month then when they get home you need to be respectful of how rough they've had it and you need to stay up for 3 days straight with a jet-lagged baby so princess can get her fucking beauty sleep because vacations are tough, man.

I seriously feel like my head is coming apart at the seams. I don't know who's running this simulation but this iteration kind of sucks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 07, 2017, 10:56:57 AM
Remember, guys, if you stayed home to work and catch up on bills while your family went on vacation to Europe for a month then when they get home you need to be respectful of how rough they've had it and you need to stay up for 3 days straight with a jet-lagged baby so princess can get her fucking beauty sleep because vacations are tough, man.

I seriously feel like my head is coming apart at the seams. I don't know who's running this simulation but this iteration kind of sucks.

The first three years are super hard because of the sleep thing. Hang in there and try not to make any major decisions until she's four.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2017, 03:58:01 PM
Also, your wife went on a vacation to Europe alone with a baby? That's insane. The flight alone is brutal WITHOUT a baby. What the fuck, dude, that sounds like a special kind of torture.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 07, 2017, 06:19:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2017, 03:58:01 PM
Also, your wife went on a vacation to Europe alone with a baby? That's insane. The flight alone is brutal WITHOUT a baby. What the fuck, dude, that sounds like a special kind of torture.

Her mom and stepdad live in Germany so she had plenty of help with the baby once she was there. And there's a direct flight from Seattle to Frankfurt that's only 10 hours, so it's as not-awful as it can be as far as flying overseas with a baby.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on January 07, 2017, 06:41:35 PM
I can't speak for others, but I hate going on trips with the boy. It's easier now that he's almost 8 and fiercely independent. Still, I've done that direct flight to Frankfurt and, with a baby, it sounds like a nightmare. Every trip I have ever taken with the boy/his brother has resulted in my needing recovery time. The last time, Hawaii, we were there for a week, my family was mostly awful, except for my sister and mother, and I spent a month feeling shaky and freaked out. I would have done a lot better if I hadn't had to worry about wrangling a 5 year old, and if I had had some weed. Trips without weed are the worst. Then again, my stress-response is generally fucked.

Actually, I am supposed to go to Germany this summer and am dreading the lack of weed. They have it there, sure, but I don't really have any sources. Except for my cousin S. who just got busted by his own brother, my good-for-nothing spoiled-ass other cousin O. for petty bullshit. Now S. can't get any of the very lucrative jobs he qualified for, forever.

Sorry you're having a rough go, ECH.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 07, 2017, 06:59:36 PM
Yeah, in retrospect I might have been a little harsh. We haven't exactly been a hotbed of domestic harmony lately and it really has very little to do with the stresses of having a child. If there wasn't the child I might have already reached the point of "fuck this shit" but she's an absolutely wonderful mother so that goes a long way.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on January 07, 2017, 07:12:28 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 07, 2017, 06:59:36 PM
Yeah, in retrospect I might have been a little harsh. We haven't exactly been a hotbed of domestic harmony lately and it really has very little to do with the stresses of having a child. If there wasn't the child I might have already reached the point of "fuck this shit" but she's an absolutely wonderful mother so that goes a long way.

That counts for a whole lot.

My unsolicited advice: babies rob you of your domestic harmony, as well as all resources, time, and energy. The reality is, all that shit take a backseat to the baby, whether you want it to or not. Babies take all those feelings of love for the other person and use them to make more poop and grow bigger. This is natural and normal. Until your kid hits 5, it's going to be like that, so embrace it, make friends with it, make a happy sacrifice, if at all possible.

I am confident you'll find your way in this, no matter what way that is.

Maybe, and I hope I am not out of line here, but maybe some of the harshness comes from feelings of guilt?

It's OK to get mad at the situation you're in. I get mad at my situation all the time, and it's basically perfect. That comes from years and years of fucking up and getting fucked over. Therapy has definitely helped me not fuck myself up, I am extremely grateful for it.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 07, 2017, 10:38:23 PM
Hang in there, ECH.


I just read a thread in the youtube comments section where 30 people were trying to tell a guy who'd gone off his depression meds for personal reasons what depression is and how depression meds work.  I was torn between amusement and slapping them with science, and didn't comment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2017, 11:57:40 PM
We're on the bathroom remodel homestretch! Today we went and picked up tile, trim, hardibacker, and a miter saw. Shit's gon get real now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 08, 2017, 05:12:15 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2017, 11:57:40 PM
We're on the bathroom remodel homestretch! Today we went and picked up tile, trim, hardibacker, and a miter saw. Shit's gon get real now.



(wait for it...)




(wait for it...)






PLEASE HAMMER, DON'T HURT 'EM! :hammer:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 08, 2017, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 08, 2017, 05:12:15 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2017, 11:57:40 PM
We're on the bathroom remodel homestretch! Today we went and picked up tile, trim, hardibacker, and a miter saw. Shit's gon get real now.



(wait for it...)




(wait for it...)






PLEASE HAMMER, DON'T HURT 'EM! :hammer:

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: EK WAFFLR on January 08, 2017, 09:16:37 PM
So, I've started going cross-eyed and having double vision. Been like that for some time now, when I'm tired. Lately, it's been like it ALL THE TIME.

Went to the doctor's on Thursday to check it out. Was sent promptly to the neurologic department at the hospital. Was there until last night. Had all sorts of tests performed on my head. And a spinal tap. They had to try it three times. It was the absolutely worst thing I've ever experienced in my life, physically.

Nothing wrong with my head/brain tough. Waiting for an appointment at the eye specialist.



Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 08, 2017, 11:30:05 PM
Quote from: The All-Seeing Waffle on January 08, 2017, 09:16:37 PM
So, I've started going cross-eyed and having double vision. Been like that for some time now, when I'm tired. Lately, it's been like it ALL THE TIME.

Went to the doctor's on Thursday to check it out. Was sent promptly to the neurologic department at the hospital. Was there until last night. Had all sorts of tests performed on my head. And a spinal tap. They had to try it three times. It was the absolutely worst thing I've ever experienced in my life, physically.

Nothing wrong with my head/brain tough. Waiting for an appointment at the eye specialist.

Gahhh!

That's the worst.  Ever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 09, 2017, 01:02:09 PM
WOULD EVERYONE ON PD PLEASE STOP DYING.


THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 09, 2017, 03:37:38 PM
You're not the boss of me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 09, 2017, 06:17:09 PM
I said please.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 09, 2017, 09:40:28 PM
Shit, Waffles. I'm glad there's nothing wrong with your noggin at least.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 10, 2017, 12:52:51 AM
Just got a call from my Irish cousin who lives in Connecticut. Turns out my father (who still lives in the UK) used a rather inefficient method of sending 400 Pound Sterling to me and my sister through multiple relatives who were travelling in the general direction of New England. I'm meeting my cousin in town (she's going to be in Boston anyway) on Wednesday. I think it pretty much clinches me going to Ireland this summer. I can't take the money and not put it towards airfare.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 10, 2017, 01:33:43 AM
Holy shit, Waffles. D:


Eveery time I've heard someone mention Are You Afraid of the Dark?, the episode with the pool is always, always, ALWAYS mentioned as the one that fucked them up the most, because that was a hellaciously fucked up episode.  That show was supposed to be for kids?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Aucoq on January 10, 2017, 02:49:07 AM
Damn, Waffle. I hope whatever is wrong gets fixed quickly and painlessly.

Quote from: Freeky on January 10, 2017, 01:33:43 AM
Eveery time I've heard someone mention Are You Afraid of the Dark?, the episode with the pool is always, always, ALWAYS mentioned as the one that fucked them up the most, because that was a hellaciously fucked up episode.  That show was supposed to be for kids?

I absolutely love Are You Afraid Of The Dark?. The episode that messed me up the most as a kid was the Tale of the Shiny Red Bicycle, the one about the kid's friend who got trapped in a river, drowned, and then haunted him. That episode is why I'm apprehensive around dams.

Funny enough though, a while back I watched the episode again to see if it was as scary as I remembered it, and it's actually a nice story about friendship.

Have you watched R.L. Stine's A Haunting Hour?  A lot of the episodes come close to being on the same level as AYAOTD. Some of the episodes are generic kid/teen horror, but a lot of them have fantastic/scary fridge logic that left me with the same impresion as AYAOTD, as far as not believing they'd do that in a kid's/teen's show.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 10, 2017, 03:25:26 AM
Quote from: Aucoq on January 10, 2017, 02:49:07 AM
Quote from: Freeky on January 10, 2017, 01:33:43 AM
Eveery time I've heard someone mention Are You Afraid of the Dark?, the episode with the pool is always, always, ALWAYS mentioned as the one that fucked them up the most, because that was a hellaciously fucked up episode.  That show was supposed to be for kids?

I absolutely love Are You Afraid Of The Dark?. The episode that messed me up the most as a kid was the Tale of the Shiny Red Bicycle, the one about the kid's friend who got trapped in a river, drowned, and then haunted him. That episode is why I'm apprehensive around dams.

Funny enough though, a while back I watched the episode again to see if it was as scary as I remembered it, and it's actually a nice story about friendship.

Have you watched R.L. Stine's A Haunting Hour?  A lot of the episodes come close to being on the same level as AYAOTD. Some of the episodes are generic kid/teen horror, but a lot of them have fantastic/scary fridge logic that left me with the same impresion as AYAOTD, as far as not believing they'd do that in a kid's/teen's show.

I, uh, tend to avoid scary shit.  It wasn't until a few years ago that I could watch a scary movie without throwing up, but I still get the paranoia of "WHAT IF THAT SHIT IS REAL IM NEVER SLEEPING AGAIN EVER" even though I know better.  At least for the genuinely scary stuff.  I can get through the hokey things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 10, 2017, 08:24:43 AM
I've only ever seen 3 movies that I actually considered scary, and Poltergeist doesn't really hold up when you watch it again now.

Play Misty For Me is my sleeper pick for HOLY FUCK TERRIFYING, possibly (probably) because of a lifetime of ignoring Rule #3.

But the scariest movie of all time? Fuck you if you don't think Aliens is some paralyzingly frightening shit. I saw that movie in the theater when it came out (I was 9 and my mom thought I was seeing some dumb kid movie) and I swear I didn't sleep with the lights off for a week. And it's the only movie that's possibly gotten even scarier as I get older because there are so many LAYERS of horror there and the best ones aren't even comprehensible to a little kid.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2017, 05:50:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 09, 2017, 06:17:09 PM
I said please.

Exactly, my boss would never say that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: EK WAFFLR on January 10, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
At least I get to wear an eye patch until it is fixed.

Silver lining and all that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on January 11, 2017, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: The All-Seeing Waffle on January 10, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
At least I get to wear an eye patch until it is fixed.

Silver lining and all that.

(https://shoutfactory-productionsite.s3.amazonaws.com/system/asset/file/d5262e4032364b3325890fd70fed4c70/product_detail_3162030205001_3974452950001_escape-ny.jpg)

Get the shirt.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Aucoq on January 11, 2017, 05:06:22 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 10, 2017, 08:24:43 AM
I've only ever seen 3 movies that I actually considered scary, and Poltergeist doesn't really hold up when you watch it again now.

Play Misty For Me is my sleeper pick for HOLY FUCK TERRIFYING, possibly (probably) because of a lifetime of ignoring Rule #3.

But the scariest movie of all time? Fuck you if you don't think Aliens is some paralyzingly frightening shit. I saw that movie in the theater when it came out (I was 9 and my mom thought I was seeing some dumb kid movie) and I swear I didn't sleep with the lights off for a week. And it's the only movie that's possibly gotten even scarier as I get older because there are so many LAYERS of horror there and the best ones aren't even comprehensible to a little kid.

I've never heard of Play Misty For Me, but I'm definitely going to check it out. I'm always up for anything that might scare me. Thank you for bringing the film to my attention!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 11, 2017, 05:27:10 AM
I was disabling my webcam just now in the device manager, and found an entry called "Unknown Device."  I disabled it, and nothing happened.  Then I uninstalled it and nothing continued to happen.  WTF?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on January 11, 2017, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: Freeky on January 11, 2017, 05:27:10 AM
I was disabling my webcam just now in the device manager, and found an entry called "Unknown Device."  I disabled it, and nothing happened.  Then I uninstalled it and nothing continued to happen.  WTF?
The real question is if it was really there in the first place.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Rev Thwack on January 11, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 10, 2017, 08:24:43 AM
I've only ever seen 3 movies that I actually considered scary, and Poltergeist doesn't really hold up when you watch it again now.

Play Misty For Me is my sleeper pick for HOLY FUCK TERRIFYING, possibly (probably) because of a lifetime of ignoring Rule #3.

But the scariest movie of all time? Fuck you if you don't think Aliens is some paralyzingly frightening shit. I saw that movie in the theater when it came out (I was 9 and my mom thought I was seeing some dumb kid movie) and I swear I didn't sleep with the lights off for a week. And it's the only movie that's possibly gotten even scarier as I get older because there are so many LAYERS of horror there and the best ones aren't even comprehensible to a little kid.

Wait, Alien or Aliens? I fully agree that the first was a great horror movie. The second was always more of a sci-fi action flick to me. Not scary really, but great nonetheless.

For frightening space movies, I'll always have a soft spot for Event Horizon. Something about watching that just really creeped me out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 11, 2017, 01:08:49 PM
Quote from: The All-Seeing Waffle on January 10, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
At least I get to wear an eye patch until it is fixed.

Silver lining and all that.

One:
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/03/d4/22/03d4221277d0336ba02d6ed1acc44a5b.jpg)

Two:
Wear the funky, funky, eyepatch. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMj_KWftpBM)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2017, 02:33:27 PM
Event Horizon was definitely creepy in places, and I also have a soft spot for it, but damn it's not shlocky as all hell in places.

Alien, however, is a masterpiece. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: EK WAFFLR on January 11, 2017, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 11, 2017, 01:08:49 PM
Quote from: The All-Seeing Waffle on January 10, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
At least I get to wear an eye patch until it is fixed.

Silver lining and all that.

One:
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/03/d4/22/03d4221277d0336ba02d6ed1acc44a5b.jpg)

Two:
Wear the funky, funky, eyepatch. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMj_KWftpBM)
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 11, 2017, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: The All-Seeing Waffle on January 10, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
At least I get to wear an eye patch until it is fixed.

Silver lining and all that.

(https://shoutfactory-productionsite.s3.amazonaws.com/system/asset/file/d5262e4032364b3325890fd70fed4c70/product_detail_3162030205001_3974452950001_escape-ny.jpg)

Get the shirt.


I've got a ways to go before I nail the look.

(https://scontent.fsvg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15894567_1194848823885146_1896843572635984547_n.jpg?oh=3127e38088beb2d9eea8e76a9b336454&oe=58D7DD47)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 11, 2017, 03:40:19 PM
Ok, grizzled pirate mercenary it is, then!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 10, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
At least I get to wear an eye patch until it is fixed.

Silver lining and all that.

Now you just need to get yourself a couple of ravens.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 11, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 10, 2017, 08:24:43 AM
I've only ever seen 3 movies that I actually considered scary, and Poltergeist doesn't really hold up when you watch it again now.

Play Misty For Me is my sleeper pick for HOLY FUCK TERRIFYING, possibly (probably) because of a lifetime of ignoring Rule #3.

But the scariest movie of all time? Fuck you if you don't think Aliens is some paralyzingly frightening shit. I saw that movie in the theater when it came out (I was 9 and my mom thought I was seeing some dumb kid movie) and I swear I didn't sleep with the lights off for a week. And it's the only movie that's possibly gotten even scarier as I get older because there are so many LAYERS of horror there and the best ones aren't even comprehensible to a little kid.

Wait, Alien or Aliens? I fully agree that the first was a great horror movie. The second was always more of a sci-fi action flick to me. Not scary really, but great nonetheless.

For frightening space movies, I'll always have a soft spot for Event Horizon. Something about watching that just really creeped me out.

Alien was OK, but hardly scary.

Aliens is what I was talking about. Flat-out terrifying, in addition to being one of the 4 or 5 best movies ever made.

Event Horizon was terrifying when I saw it in the theater on several hits of LSD, but I found it didn't really hold up to rewatching.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 11, 2017, 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 11, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 10, 2017, 08:24:43 AM
I've only ever seen 3 movies that I actually considered scary, and Poltergeist doesn't really hold up when you watch it again now.

Play Misty For Me is my sleeper pick for HOLY FUCK TERRIFYING, possibly (probably) because of a lifetime of ignoring Rule #3.

But the scariest movie of all time? Fuck you if you don't think Aliens is some paralyzingly frightening shit. I saw that movie in the theater when it came out (I was 9 and my mom thought I was seeing some dumb kid movie) and I swear I didn't sleep with the lights off for a week. And it's the only movie that's possibly gotten even scarier as I get older because there are so many LAYERS of horror there and the best ones aren't even comprehensible to a little kid.

Wait, Alien or Aliens? I fully agree that the first was a great horror movie. The second was always more of a sci-fi action flick to me. Not scary really, but great nonetheless.

For frightening space movies, I'll always have a soft spot for Event Horizon. Something about watching that just really creeped me out.

Alien was OK, but hardly scary.

Aliens is what I was talking about. Flat-out terrifying,
in addition to being one of the 4 or 5 best movies ever made.

Event Horizon was terrifying when I saw it in the theater on several hits of LSD, but I found it didn't really hold up to rewatching.

I, too, prefer political docudrama Aliens over its lighthearted feminist comedy predecessor Alien, since we're just being silly now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 08:42:44 PM
Yeah, I get that everyone thinks the first one was a masterpiece but people are allowed to be wrong. It was good, but nothing special. It really took the second film to fully explore the horrors of not only the xenomorphs but of the inevitability of humanity's demise at the hands of its own greed.

If Star Trek is space socialism, the Alien quadrillogy is space libertarianism and that, I'm afraid, is the vastly more likely real-life future. And if that doesn't scare you, well, we're motivated by very different things I guess.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Rev Thwack on January 11, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 08:42:44 PM
Yeah, I get that everyone thinks the first one was a masterpiece but people are allowed to be wrong. It was good, but nothing special. It really took the second film to fully explore the horrors of not only the xenomorphs but of the inevitability of humanity's demise at the hands of its own greed.

If Star Trek is space socialism, the Alien quadrillogy is space libertarianism and that, I'm afraid, is the vastly more likely real-life future. And if that doesn't scare you, well, we're motivated by very different things I guess.


No, I think the issue is that Alien is actually a horror film, while Aliens is an action film.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 11, 2017, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 08:42:44 PM
Yeah, I get that everyone thinks the first one was a masterpiece but people are allowed to be wrong. It was good, but nothing special. It really took the second film to fully explore the horrors of not only the xenomorphs but of the inevitability of humanity's demise at the hands of its own greed.

If Star Trek is space socialism, the Alien quadrillogy is space libertarianism and that, I'm afraid, is the vastly more likely real-life future. And if that doesn't scare you, well, we're motivated by very different things I guess.

(http://www.ebookgratis.net/images_bank/news/2015/son-this-is-bait-230.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on January 11, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
While terminator 2 was an improvement over the first one, I feel it really didn't hit its stride till 3.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 11, 2017, 11:19:23 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 11, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 08:42:44 PM
Yeah, I get that everyone thinks the first one was a masterpiece but people are allowed to be wrong. It was good, but nothing special. It really took the second film to fully explore the horrors of not only the xenomorphs but of the inevitability of humanity's demise at the hands of its own greed.

If Star Trek is space socialism, the Alien quadrillogy is space libertarianism and that, I'm afraid, is the vastly more likely real-life future. And if that doesn't scare you, well, we're motivated by very different things I guess.


No, I think the issue is that Alien is actually a horror film, while Aliens is an action film.

Is there actually any issue at all? I am puzzled by the direction this conversation has taken, since it seems to have left the realm of reality and now appears to consist entirely of chest-thumping and ook-ook.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Aucoq on January 12, 2017, 01:26:01 AM
Alien versus Aliens and Terminator versus T2 are the film world's version of debating politics and religion.  :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 12, 2017, 02:32:23 AM
Quote from: Aucoq on January 12, 2017, 01:26:01 AM
Alien versus Aliens and Terminator versus T2 are the film world's version of debating politics and religion.  :lol:

Oh, I see.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 11, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 08:42:44 PM
Yeah, I get that everyone thinks the first one was a masterpiece but people are allowed to be wrong. It was good, but nothing special. It really took the second film to fully explore the horrors of not only the xenomorphs but of the inevitability of humanity's demise at the hands of its own greed.

If Star Trek is space socialism, the Alien quadrillogy is space libertarianism and that, I'm afraid, is the vastly more likely real-life future. And if that doesn't scare you, well, we're motivated by very different things I guess.


No, I think the issue is that Alien is actually a horror film, while Aliens is an action film.

I never said it was a horror film, I just said it was terrifying.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Faust on January 11, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
While terminator 2 was an improvement over the first one, I feel it really didn't hit its stride till 3.

:troll:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ziegejunge on January 12, 2017, 03:22:42 PM
I liked Terminator 3 more than most folks I've met. Please understand that statement is still incredibly relative.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on January 12, 2017, 05:45:42 PM
This conversation is a waste of time.
























Because Predator is obviously the most terrifying Sci fi movie of all time due to the implication that this planet is a mere playground for far more intelligent and technologically advanced species.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 12, 2017, 05:47:26 PM
(http://acsillc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/toolbox.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

And to be fair, you can be a bit of a cunt.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 07:48:04 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

And to be fair, you can be a bit of a cunt.

That's fair.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on January 12, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: Just Alty, Please on January 12, 2017, 05:45:42 PM
This conversation is a waste of time.
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 11, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 11, 2017, 08:42:44 PM
Yeah, I get that everyone thinks the first one was a masterpiece but people are allowed to be wrong. It was good, but nothing special. It really took the second film to fully explore the horrors of not only the xenomorphs but of the inevitability of humanity's demise at the hands of its own greed.

If Star Trek is space socialism, the Alien quadrillogy is space libertarianism and that, I'm afraid, is the vastly more likely real-life future. And if that doesn't scare you, well, we're motivated by very different things I guess.


No, I think the issue is that Alien is actually a horror film, while Aliens is an action film.
Because Predator is obviously the most terrifying Sci fi movie of all time due to the implication that this planet is a mere playground for far more intelligent and technologically advanced species.

Which reminds me how terrifying Aliens is as a propaganda piece for the military industrial complex.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

And to be fair, you can be a bit of a cunt.

:lol:

That's pretty rich coming from you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: Ziegejunge on January 12, 2017, 03:22:42 PM
I liked Terminator 3 more than most folks I've met. Please understand that statement is still incredibly relative.

If I had to rank everything that exists in order of how much I like it, Terminator 3 would rank below ingrown toenails.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 08:24:41 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

And to be fair, you can be a bit of a cunt.

:lol:

That's pretty rich coming from you.

That's also fair.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 08:24:41 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

And to be fair, you can be a bit of a cunt.

:lol:

That's pretty rich coming from you.

That's also fair.

But to be fair, it's only fair that you agreed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 08:24:41 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

And to be fair, you can be a bit of a cunt.

:lol:

That's pretty rich coming from you.

That's also fair.

But to be fair, it's only fair that you agreed.

That's fair.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on January 12, 2017, 09:16:34 PM
If you like the feelings of suspense and constantly being hunted in alien, I would really suggest Alien Isolation: It's one of the best suspense/horror games I've ever played (even if it is just elaborate hide and seek with the alien) and the sound and feel of the game really gets the alien/aliens feel across.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 09:19:51 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 08:24:41 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 12, 2017, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 12, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

And to be fair, you can be a bit of a cunt.

:lol:

That's pretty rich coming from you.

That's also fair.

But to be fair, it's only fair that you agreed.

That's fair.
(http://acsillc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/toolbox.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2017, 09:21:10 PM
Alien: Isolation does have fantastic atmosphere.  Playing it alone, in the dark would be quite the experience.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on January 12, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
Yeah, headphones on is the only way to play, the sound of metal falling in the distance, or steam valves around you, even the clicks of the retro 80's style computers. It's one of the few examples a game where sound is paramount and the graphics fall at the wayside.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on January 12, 2017, 11:37:28 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 31, 2016, 03:30:41 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on December 31, 2016, 03:20:10 AM
I haven't been to New Orleans since before Katrina but goddamn I loved hanging out in that town. Out of any city in the states it is the one that feels the most West Indian.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 11:53:20 PMSan Francisco (lame!)

I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels this way. :lulz:

It's overpriced and crowded and hilly and it smells like pee. I mean, there are nice things about it, but there are nice things about Fresno, too.

:lulz:

And I'm hogging all of them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 02:42:15 AM
So, medicated for the disobedient pancreas thingie. 

Blood sugar down from 177 to 141 on day 1.

Mind you, I am also starving AND the principle side effect of Metformin is horrible liquid ass explosions for 1-2 weeks, so things are a festival here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2017, 02:52:37 AM
Presumably there is also a downside to the medication?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 02:57:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 02:52:37 AM
Presumably there is also a downside to the medication?

Potential lactose acidosis.  That's when your pH drops by .4 and you vomit on everything and die.

Not sure that's a downside, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:28:50 AM
Quote from: N E T on January 12, 2017, 11:37:28 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 31, 2016, 03:30:41 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on December 31, 2016, 03:20:10 AM
I haven't been to New Orleans since before Katrina but goddamn I loved hanging out in that town. Out of any city in the states it is the one that feels the most West Indian.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2016, 11:53:20 PMSan Francisco (lame!)

I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels this way. :lulz:

It's overpriced and crowded and hilly and it smells like pee. I mean, there are nice things about it, but there are nice things about Fresno, too.

:lulz:

And I'm hogging all of them.

Well, there isn't enough to go around so you have to hoard what you can get.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:31:51 AM
STICK IT IN, MOTHERFUCKERS. http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,22569.0.html
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on January 13, 2017, 08:45:58 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 02:57:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 02:52:37 AM
Presumably there is also a downside to the medication?

Potential lactose acidosis.  That's when your pH drops by .4 and you vomit on everything and die.

Not sure that's a downside, though.
Calling Dr. Atkins, seems like ketosis not all that. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on January 13, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:31:51 AM
STICK IT IN, MOTHERFUCKERS. http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,22569.0.html

ITS TOO LATE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GAMES NOW AHAHAHAHA.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

That's fair.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Rev Thwack on January 13, 2017, 03:22:26 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

That's fair.

But isn't it also fair to consider it acceptable to bring said dick-waving to the Open Bar, as it's featured throughout the rest of the forum?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on January 13, 2017, 04:14:36 PM
(http://www.handresearch.com/news/us-presidents/president-richard-nixon-right-hand-waving.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 04:27:31 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 13, 2017, 04:14:36 PM
(http://www.handresearch.com/news/us-presidents/president-richard-nixon-right-hand-waving.jpg)

That's fair.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 13, 2017, 03:22:26 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

That's fair.

But isn't it also fair to consider it acceptable to bring said dick-waving to the Open Bar, as it's featured throughout the rest of the forum?

Well, obviously it's possible, since it happened. And clearly, you're here to make sure it keeps happening everywhere all the time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2017, 04:51:30 PM
Uh oh, there have been two brief snow storms in London and reports of subzero temperatures overnight.

This means there won't be any milk or bread in the shops tomorrow.  Good thing I got mine yesterday.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on January 13, 2017, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 04:51:30 PM
Uh oh, there have been two brief snow storms in London and reports of subzero temperatures overnight.

This means there won't be any milk or bread in the shops tomorrow.  Good thing I got mine yesterday.

So that works the same way over there as it does over here? I would have figured it to be tea and scones, or fish and chips or something.

Something I've noticed while working two winters at a grocery store: If it works exactly the same, the full list should include pretty much anything WHITE.

Milk
Bread
Toilet Paper
Diapers
Eggs
and, for some reason, Onions
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2017, 05:08:20 PM
It's kinda bizarre too, because milk and bread keep.  Especially if you freeze bread (which should be easier with snow).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 05:12:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 04:51:30 PM
Uh oh, there have been two brief snow storms in London and reports of subzero temperatures overnight.

This means there won't be any milk or bread in the shops tomorrow.  Good thing I got mine yesterday.

We are on day four of snow here, and were reduced to buying half and half (light cream) for our tea. There is no milk to be had.

A train derailed this morning.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
4 days is sort of understandable.  However I've never known, outside Scotland, snow to persist longer than 5 days in the countryside here.  In London, it never even lasts to the next day.  Yet everyone panic buys shit. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 05:56:20 PM
I could tell you why, but it's very boring and practical.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 06:19:27 PM
It happens every year in New England.  Every. Year.

I skip the milk and bread aisle, and head straight to the bone-in pork roasts.  If I'm going to be snowed in, it's gonna smell good in my house.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 08:16:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 06:19:27 PM
It happens every year in New England.  Every. Year.

I skip the milk and bread aisle, and head straight to the bone-in pork roasts.  If I'm going to be snowed in, it's gonna smell good in my house.

I appreciate this strategy.

Around here, milk, bread, fish, meat, and other short-turnover items are delivered to stores twice a week. When it snows, delivery is usually disrupted, so if you want any of these rapid-turnover perishables you had better get it before they run out, which will be soon because everyone else has the same idea. When we were at the store yesterday, the milk and fish cases were already empty.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 08:43:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 06:19:27 PM
It happens every year in New England.  Every. Year.

I skip the milk and bread aisle, and head straight to the bone-in pork roasts.  If I'm going to be snowed in, it's gonna smell good in my house.

Suu and Richter used to post hilarious update on that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
Here's a hilarious update: Lysergic, not content with being a clock truther, now believes the Steele memo about Trump was faked by 4chan.  Or at least the golden shower part.  Despite the complete date disparity, and the fact that Steele was relying on Russian informants, not casually scoping out the latest /pol/ bullshit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 09:01:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
Here's a hilarious update: Lysergic, not content with being a clock truther, now believes the Steele memo about Trump was faked by 4chan.  Or at least the golden shower part.  Despite the complete date disparity, and the fact that Steele was relying on Russian informants, not casually scoping out the latest /pol/ bullshit.

I think Lysergic has decided that in order to preserve his dignity, he has to believe the exact opposite of what people who have embarrassed him in the past believe.

Lysergic is wrong. Basing your value system and beliefs on a reaction to the value system and beliefs of other people is exactly the same as following the herd; it's not based on thinking.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
Here's a hilarious update: Lysergic, not content with being a clock truther, now believes the Steele memo about Trump was faked by 4chan.  Or at least the golden shower part.  Despite the complete date disparity, and the fact that Steele was relying on Russian informants, not casually scoping out the latest /pol/ bullshit.
I saw that.  I was quietly amused.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 09:01:00 PM
Basing your value system and beliefs on a reaction to the value system and beliefs of other people is exactly the same as following the herd; it's not based on thinking.

I think there's a memebomb somewhere around here that echoes this sentiment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
Here's a hilarious update: Lysergic, not content with being a clock truther, now believes the Steele memo about Trump was faked by 4chan.  Or at least the golden shower part.  Despite the complete date disparity, and the fact that Steele was relying on Russian informants, not casually scoping out the latest /pol/ bullshit.

what is a clock truther?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2017, 09:21:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
Here's a hilarious update: Lysergic, not content with being a clock truther, now believes the Steele memo about Trump was faked by 4chan.  Or at least the golden shower part.  Despite the complete date disparity, and the fact that Steele was relying on Russian informants, not casually scoping out the latest /pol/ bullshit.

what is a clock truther?

You know that kid who brought his clock into school and got arrested for it?  People who believe he did it on purpose and for attention and/or he didn't build the clock himself.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 09:21:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
Here's a hilarious update: Lysergic, not content with being a clock truther, now believes the Steele memo about Trump was faked by 4chan.  Or at least the golden shower part.  Despite the complete date disparity, and the fact that Steele was relying on Russian informants, not casually scoping out the latest /pol/ bullshit.

what is a clock truther?

You know that kid who brought his clock into school and got arrested for it?  People who believe he did it on purpose and for attention and/or he didn't build the clock himself.

Oh, shit.  That crap.

well, I have low expectations for anything that falls out of Lysergic's face.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 09:21:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 13, 2017, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
Here's a hilarious update: Lysergic, not content with being a clock truther, now believes the Steele memo about Trump was faked by 4chan.  Or at least the golden shower part.  Despite the complete date disparity, and the fact that Steele was relying on Russian informants, not casually scoping out the latest /pol/ bullshit.

what is a clock truther?

You know that kid who brought his clock into school and got arrested for it?  People who believe he did it on purpose and for attention and/or he didn't build the clock himself.

Basically, it's an excuse to be racist.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2017, 11:29:02 PM
It was hilarious - in a terrible way - when Clock Truthers overran Reddit for like a month straight.  They were so blatantly envious of him it was ridiculous.

All those poor, unrecognised child geniuses of Reddit.  I cri evrytiem
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2017, 11:29:02 PM
It was hilarious - in a terrible way - when Clock Truthers overran Reddit for like a month straight.  They were so blatantly envious of him it was ridiculous.

All those poor, unrecognised child geniuses of Reddit.  I cri evrytiem

I loved how the naysayers were all conflicted between whether a clock is super easy to build and therefore unimpressive, and whether a clock is too hard for a kid that age to build and therefore someone made it for him. They just could not get their shit together; all they knew was that there had to be SOME excuse for hating on the kid.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2017, 04:50:49 AM
Apparently some weird shit may be going down outside the J. Edgar Hoover building?  I'm seeing some suspiciously vague tweets about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on January 14, 2017, 05:23:01 AM
Was it ever conclusively determined if he built a clock, or just took one out of it's shell, and put it in a pencil box?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 14, 2017, 05:44:12 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 14, 2017, 05:23:01 AM
Was it ever conclusively determined if he built a clock, or just took one out of it's shell, and put it in a pencil box?

Same thing with the pyramids.  Did the Egyptians really build them, or did they just take a mountain and stick it in a pencil box?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 14, 2017, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

The dick-waving quotient increases by about 748% any time Thwack decides to grace us with his presence. He's still PeeDee-ing like it's 2006.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 14, 2017, 11:05:30 AM
Who is Lysergic?  :?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2017, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 14, 2017, 05:23:01 AM
Was it ever conclusively determined if he built a clock, or just took one out of it's shell, and put it in a pencil box?

Does it matter in the fucking slightest? Usually when someone "builds a clock", they buy a pre-made clockwork and put it in something that will serve as a clock face. This is functionally almost exactly the same as taking a clockwork out of one clock face and putting it in another. Almost nobody builds clockworks from scratch anymore; sort of like how very few of the people who build guns actually machine any of their own parts.

http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-build-a-clock
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2017, 03:30:10 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 14, 2017, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

The dick-waving quotient increases by about 748% any time Thwack decides to grace us with his presence. He's still PeeDee-ing like it's 2006.

I kinda picked up on that.  :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2017, 03:31:55 PM
Quote from: Xaz on January 14, 2017, 11:05:30 AM
Who is Lysergic?  :?

A PDer of times gone by. We watched him undergo various stages of meth addiction, PUA addiction, libertarian fuckery, and conspiracy theories, and as a result of making a complete tool of himself over and over and over, he hates us.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Rev Thwack on January 14, 2017, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 14, 2017, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

The dick-waving quotient increases by about 748% any time Thwack decides to grace us with his presence. He's still PeeDee-ing like it's 2006.

What can I say, sometimes elements of times past should return. There is a lot to be said for not taking yourself too seriously, and there are some here that really need to remember that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 14, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
I remember his idea for crowd sourcing government in real time, based on some elaborate ranking system.


He did NOT like our critiques.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2017, 06:18:10 PM
So, last night, a guy (not one of our students) got jumped by a gang of five, including one with a weapon, right outside the building.

In addition to being terrible, this meant having about 12 police officers and 3 forensic scientists lurking outside the building, looking at our CCTV, trying to distinguish vomit from blood and other fun activities.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2017, 06:38:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 14, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
I remember his idea for crowd sourcing government in real time, based on some elaborate ranking system.


He did NOT like our critiques.

He hated any and all forms of criticism, including constructive. He would fly into an irrational rage and start accusing people of being jealous.  :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2017, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2017, 06:18:10 PM
So, last night, a guy (not one of our students) got jumped by a gang of five, including one with a weapon, right outside the building.

In addition to being terrible, this meant having about 12 police officers and 3 forensic scientists lurking outside the building, looking at our CCTV, trying to distinguish vomit from blood and other fun activities.

The fuck, Cain. Your neighborhood... it sounds like it would fill gang members from East Oakland with confusion and terror.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2017, 10:19:56 PM
Nah, the guy didn't have a gun or anything.  The weapon in question did look like an improvised flail though...wooden handle and what looks like leather strips on the CCTV.  Not 100% on that, but I suspect with 4 other guys pummeling him, it didn't make much difference.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2017, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2017, 10:19:56 PM
Nah, the guy didn't have a gun or anything.  The weapon in question did look like an improvised flail though...wooden handle and what looks like leather strips on the CCTV.  Not 100% on that, but I suspect with 4 other guys pummeling him, it didn't make much difference.

A FLAIL????  :lulz: LITERALLY getting medieval on the guy?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2017, 10:56:18 PM
So it seemed, yeah.

Weaponry in London is weird.  With the gun ban, you have the usual knives, bottles and occasionally baseball bats (though since baseball isn't popular here, police tend to pick up on it).  But then you have the guys with replica katanas and rapiers, lighters and aerosol, lathi and zoot sticks...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2017, 04:00:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2017, 10:56:18 PM
So it seemed, yeah.

Weaponry in London is weird.  With the gun ban, you have the usual knives, bottles and occasionally baseball bats (though since baseball isn't popular here, police tend to pick up on it).  But then you have the guys with replica katanas and rapiers, lighters and aerosol, lathi and zoot sticks...

Goddamn. :eek:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 15, 2017, 04:06:47 PM
Dare I ask what a zoot stick is?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 15, 2017, 04:24:16 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 15, 2017, 04:06:47 PM
Dare I ask what a zoot stick is?

It's actually an American term.  We probably have another charming term for it, but basically it's a 2x4 with razor blades planted in it.  It's name comes from its use in the Zoot Suit Riots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoot_Suit_Riots), where it was used primarly by anti-Mexican gangs and off duty riot police officers. 

I've actually been reading The Big Nowhere lately, the prequel to LA Confidential, and the serial killer in the book uses a zoot stick.  The whole plot is bound up in the Sleepy Lagoon murder (linked to the Zoot Suit Riots), corruption in the LAPD, racism and anti-Communist hysteria.  So typical Ellroy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 15, 2017, 07:54:09 PM
Holy crap.

Well, now I know something new.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 16, 2017, 07:11:41 AM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 14, 2017, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 14, 2017, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

The dick-waving quotient increases by about 748% any time Thwack decides to grace us with his presence. He's still PeeDee-ing like it's 2006.

What can I say, sometimes elements of times past should return. There is a lot to be said for not taking yourself too seriously, and there are some here that really need to remember that.

No argument there, it's just that experience shows us that the people who tend to self-appoint themselves for that task are usually in that category themselves.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on January 16, 2017, 08:21:33 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 16, 2017, 07:11:41 AM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 14, 2017, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 14, 2017, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

The dick-waving quotient increases by about 748% any time Thwack decides to grace us with his presence. He's still PeeDee-ing like it's 2006.

What can I say, sometimes elements of times past should return. There is a lot to be said for not taking yourself too seriously, and there are some here that really need to remember that.

No argument there, it's just that experience shows us that the people who tend to self-appoint themselves for that task are usually in that category themselves.
:lulz:
I mean, otherwise the whole shtick would be, just, inconceivable, and tedious.  Mainly tedious. :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on January 16, 2017, 10:01:53 AM
And, on that note, I just had to mute a TV because THAR WUZ PLEIN ME SONG.  I'm going to be okay.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2017, 05:46:06 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 16, 2017, 07:11:41 AM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on January 14, 2017, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 14, 2017, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 12, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
To be fair, this is the Open Bar.

Which is, also to be fair, not usually home to the degree of dick-waving I expect to see everywhere else on Peedee.

The dick-waving quotient increases by about 748% any time Thwack decides to grace us with his presence. He's still PeeDee-ing like it's 2006.

What can I say, sometimes elements of times past should return. There is a lot to be said for not taking yourself too seriously, and there are some here that really need to remember that.

No argument there, it's just that experience shows us that the people who tend to self-appoint themselves for that task are usually in that category themselves.

Plus there's something kind of amazingly self-absorbed about someone who goes around trying to knock people down a peg or two for... what? Not being funny enough? Dance, monkeys, dance! Had a rough year? Not in a jolly mood? I DON'T CARE, LIGHTEN UP AND ENTERTAIN ME ME ME ME ME ME!

I mean, gosh, sorry if my mood is too serious for you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 16, 2017, 06:58:57 PM
I think we can all agree that the most egregious offense here is the Appeal to Lulz without delivering said Lulz.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2017, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 16, 2017, 06:58:57 PM
I think we can all agree that the most egregious offense here is the Appeal to Lulz without delivering said Lulz.

Seriously. If you're going to complain about a lack of funny, you better fucking bring the funny. Otherwise you're just an unfunny complainer, and we already have Unfunny Eric for that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 17, 2017, 09:16:35 PM
It's snow day nine hundred and fucktyseven here in the Niglty (Altnel?) household. I am so thoroughly over snow days.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 17, 2017, 09:55:57 PM
I hear most of PDX has turned to cannibalism, with the vegans deciding that eating another vegan is OK.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 17, 2017, 10:02:37 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 17, 2017, 09:55:57 PM
I hear most of PDX has turned to cannibalism, with the vegans deciding that eating another vegan is OK.

It's really the only thing that's making this bearable.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on January 17, 2017, 10:29:50 PM
Haha you stole our weather  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 18, 2017, 02:39:17 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2017, 10:29:50 PM
Haha you stole our weather  :lulz:

I'd like you to have it back, please. We have no infrastructure for this!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on January 18, 2017, 02:54:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 18, 2017, 02:39:17 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2017, 10:29:50 PM
Haha you stole our weather  :lulz:

I'd like you to have it back, please. We have no infrastructure for this!

I"m on the fence about this.  On one hand, it's warm.

On the other hand, they built an ice castle expecting a normal winter, not sure how well that's holding up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 18, 2017, 04:08:25 AM
I have income again.  It's enough to scrape by, consulting for an NGO on the East coast.  Best part is, I can keep the position when I find something more lucrative, since this takes about 8 hours/week, working remotely.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2017, 03:15:29 PM
Good to hear that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: NeonWytch on January 18, 2017, 04:01:06 PM
Congrats, friend.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 18, 2017, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 18, 2017, 04:08:25 AM
I have income again.  It's enough to scrape by, consulting for an NGO on the East coast.  Best part is, I can keep the position when I find something more lucrative, since this takes about 8 hours/week, working remotely.

That's awesome, but hold up a second...

You can make enough money to scrape by working only 8 hours a week? Fuck, man, I'm so in the wrong line of work.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 18, 2017, 09:07:41 PM
My sleep schedule has gone to shit over the past few months.

For example, I finished work Sunday morning.  Slept 4 hours until 1230, then stayed awake until 1500 the next day, slept for 4 hours that night, then slept another 5 hours from around 0600 in the morning, then yesterday I slept from 0400 until 1230 again.

That's actually pretty good for me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 18, 2017, 09:15:53 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 18, 2017, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 18, 2017, 04:08:25 AM
I have income again.  It's enough to scrape by, consulting for an NGO on the East coast.  Best part is, I can keep the position when I find something more lucrative, since this takes about 8 hours/week, working remotely.

That's awesome, but hold up a second...

You can make enough money to scrape by working only 8 hours a week? Fuck, man, I'm so in the wrong line of work.

I have some money put away.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 19, 2017, 12:17:28 AM
Today is hilarious.

I almost forgot I have to let my interns in, and was 40 minutes late because of nothing going quite right.

Water is leaking into the basement levels. My lab is in B2.

My dad, who has dementia, isn't getting along with my brother and wants to move into our basement, which is also flooded, so I had a chat with him today. He was not thrilled about my insistence that first he has to look at the space, and THEN we have to sit down together with the brother he lives with, the brother whose name is on all his properties, one of my sisters, and my cousin to hash out his living arrangements.

After that phone call, maintenance showed up, and determined that the main drains on the east side of the building are clogged "with something dead", and that we can't use the plumbing until it's removed.

Appropriately, it now smells like a corpse-filled sewer in the science building. I'll be here until 8 (with forays to nearby buildings to use the bathroom).






Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 19, 2017, 12:25:16 AM
The head of maintenance thinks that what's blocking the sewer is a chunk of whale.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 19, 2017, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 19, 2017, 12:25:16 AM
The head of maintenance thinks that what's blocking the sewer is a chunk of whale.

That's no place for a whale!  What are you Portlandians doing up there, anyway?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2017, 03:40:44 AM
Work continues to be fun.

Last week, I discovered six people listed as away who had actually returned.  Sent slightly sarcastic email.  Found several things wrong with rooms, lists, signing in forms and other things, which I ranted at my manager about, knowing full well he wouldn't do anything about it.

Today I come in, and find he has emailed a complaint about my being one number out on a medication count (of several hundred pills).  Public email, to the whole department.  Slight problem...I counted what the student took and deducted that from the number in the book.

So fire lists etc, not important at all, but HOLY SHIT CAIN WAS (NOT) OFF BY ONE PILL IN A COUNT, BETTER SEND AN EMAIL CALLING HIM OUT RIGHT AWAY.

Oh, and a student of mine is probably getting expelled or suspended.  I don't know what for though because no-one thought to include me in the private message that says what happened.   I'm only here 4 nights a week, why would I need to know anything?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 19, 2017, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: Freeky on January 19, 2017, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 19, 2017, 12:25:16 AM
The head of maintenance thinks that what's blocking the sewer is a chunk of whale.

That's no place for a whale!  What are you Portlandians doing up there, anyway?

It would appear that someone has snuck a whale into the building and is gradually hacking it into bits.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 19, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2017, 03:40:44 AM
Work continues to be fun.

Last week, I discovered six people listed as away who had actually returned.  Sent slightly sarcastic email.  Found several things wrong with rooms, lists, signing in forms and other things, which I ranted at my manager about, knowing full well he wouldn't do anything about it.

Today I come in, and find he has emailed a complaint about my being one number out on a medication count (of several hundred pills).  Public email, to the whole department.  Slight problem...I counted what the student took and deducted that from the number in the book.

So fire lists etc, not important at all, but HOLY SHIT CAIN WAS (NOT) OFF BY ONE PILL IN A COUNT, BETTER SEND AN EMAIL CALLING HIM OUT RIGHT AWAY.

Oh, and a student of mine is probably getting expelled or suspended.  I don't know what for though because no-one thought to include me in the private message that says what happened.   I'm only here 4 nights a week, why would I need to know anything?

Jesus, that place is a shitshow. It's like they said to themselves, how can we make it almost impossible for any essential staff to do their job properly? Let's do that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
Today, my co-worker was called while she was in a Uni lecture because our manager couldn't find a master key and thought she took it.  2 weeks ago, the department head made a note on our handovers that he was taking a master key for himself.  That was the key he thought was missing.  I should note, this is the manager that insists he get the handover printed on a daily basis for him, despite it also being emailed to him daily.

Also, I reported way back in November 18 that a particular room was fire hazard levels of mess.  What did my manager tell me?  "Leave it with me".  Now, 7 weeks later, the issue has still not been resolved. and he has had to report the kid to his college.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 19, 2017, 10:14:19 PM
I think I was sleep eating last night.  I bought Cheetoes yesterday, and woke up at least three times for the specific purpose of eating my cheetoes before falling asleep again.

Fuckin' Cheetoes, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 20, 2017, 01:19:33 PM
Well, today's the day.  Or maybe it's Monday, since he's taking the weekend off.

Hopefully, my steel-tipped workboots will show up soon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 20, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
Hail Eris.

Her time has come.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 20, 2017, 02:31:10 PM
Also, I'd like to announce the first release by Donald., a political punk band I helped start.

Our first song and video is called "Sad." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyJsFnKP9nE)  It's only a minute and a half long, so watch it.

We also have a Facebook page. (https://www.facebook.com/atrealdonald/)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 20, 2017, 04:06:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 20, 2017, 02:31:10 PM
Also, I'd like to announce the first release by Donald., a political punk band I helped start.

Our first song and video is called "Sad." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyJsFnKP9nE)  It's only a minute and a half long, so watch it.

We also have a Facebook page. (https://www.facebook.com/atrealdonald/)

Nicely done!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 20, 2017, 04:34:05 PM
Thanks!  It's really fun.  And refreshing to be in a band that's not all dudes posturing! 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on January 20, 2017, 05:45:18 PM
I just got a "breaking news" from the WaPo that they did the unthinkable and swore in that painted troll.
so The News is Broken - official
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 20, 2017, 07:34:17 PM
Should the song technically be called "Sad!"?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 20, 2017, 07:44:25 PM
According to the woman who came up with the idea, no.

I'm gonna go with her on this one.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: EK WAFFLR on January 20, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
Is America great yet?

Jesus Christ what a shitshow
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 20, 2017, 01:19:33 PM
Well, today's the day.  Or maybe it's Monday, since he's taking the weekend off.

Hopefully, my steel-tipped workboots will show up soon.

He signed 12 pieces of legislation already.  Presumably without reading them.  He didn't even look at each thing he signed, he was too busy making faces at the camera.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 20, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
Is America great yet?

Jesus Christ what a shitshow

And to make things even better, on May 7th we'll learn if you guys still have a Europe.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 20, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
Man, I used to worry about how my employment history looked on paper... then I became a recruiter. Now I realize mine is really pretty not too bad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 20, 2017, 11:47:28 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 20, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
Man, I used to worry about how my employment history looked on paper... then I became a recruiter. Now I realize mine is really pretty not too bad.

:lulz:

I like this because you used to photoshop spots off of genitalia.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 20, 2017, 11:54:09 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 20, 2017, 11:47:28 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 20, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
Man, I used to worry about how my employment history looked on paper... then I became a recruiter. Now I realize mine is really pretty not too bad.

:lulz:

I like this because you used to photoshop spots off of genitalia.

Ah, those were the days...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: EK WAFFLR on January 21, 2017, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 20, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
Is America great yet?

Jesus Christ what a shitshow

And to make things even better, on May 7th we'll learn if you guys still have a Europe.

What happens on May 7th?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 01:19:34 AM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 21, 2017, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 20, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
Is America great yet?

Jesus Christ what a shitshow

And to make things even better, on May 7th we'll learn if you guys still have a Europe.

What happens on May 7th?

French elections.  If Le Pen wins, she plans to have France leave the EU.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Aucoq on January 21, 2017, 03:25:54 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 20, 2017, 02:31:10 PM
Also, I'd like to announce the first release by Donald., a political punk band I helped start.

Our first song and video is called "Sad." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyJsFnKP9nE)  It's only a minute and a half long, so watch it.

We also have a Facebook page. (https://www.facebook.com/atrealdonald/)

I like it!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2017, 03:36:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 01:19:34 AM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 21, 2017, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 20, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
Is America great yet?

Jesus Christ what a shitshow

And to make things even better, on May 7th we'll learn if you guys still have a Europe.

What happens on May 7th?

French elections.  If Le Pen wins, she plans to have France leave the EU.

And NATO, though France already did that once.  Though at least it wasn't with the idea of almost explicitly teaming up with its enemy...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 03:40:13 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2017, 03:36:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 01:19:34 AM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 21, 2017, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 20, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
Is America great yet?

Jesus Christ what a shitshow

And to make things even better, on May 7th we'll learn if you guys still have a Europe.

What happens on May 7th?

French elections.  If Le Pen wins, she plans to have France leave the EU.

And NATO, though France already did that once.  Though at least it wasn't with the idea of almost explicitly teaming up with its enemy...

Not so worried about NATO.  I mean, it would be bad, but not "global economic collapse" bad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2017, 03:48:25 AM
Well, a land war in Europe and a global economic collapse sound pretty bad.  The UK's nuclear deterrent is worthless with an American president compromised by Russian intelligence.  France is the other major military NATO power, complete with decades of combat experience and an independent nuclear arsenal.

With America compromised, the UK out of the picture and France flipped, there's nothing to stop Russian troops rolling into Latvia. I mean, I wouldn't rely on Germany, Italy and Spain to come my rescue if was fighting in the resistance in Riga, lets put it that way.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 03:58:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2017, 03:48:25 AM
Well, a land war in Europe and a global economic collapse sound pretty bad.  The UK's nuclear deterrent is worthless with an American president compromised by Russian intelligence.  France is the other major military NATO power, complete with decades of combat experience and an independent nuclear arsenal.

With America compromised, the UK out of the picture and France flipped, there's nothing to stop Russian troops rolling into Latvia. I mean, I wouldn't rely on Germany, Italy and Spain to come my rescue if was fighting in the resistance in Riga, lets put it that way.

I am gonna recommend John Shirley's "Eclipse" series at this point, because it's fucking prophecy.  Including Le Pen.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2017, 04:06:33 AM
Looked at the synopsis on Wikipedia...seems pretty damn close.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 04:25:10 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2017, 04:06:33 AM
Looked at the synopsis on Wikipedia...seems pretty damn close.

Screamingly close.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2017, 04:42:05 AM
Oh, I forgot to add, France being flipped render's UK conventional forces, which by European standards are not inconsiderable, in a tricky situation too.  The original plan was that in the event of a war, the tanks and APCs will be shipped via the Channel Tunnel.  The NATO wargames mean that has already happened, at least in part, with the rest to occur during the next month.  Now, the plan is that UK troops pass through the CT and go to where the tanks are, which is more sensible...but depends on free movement from France into Germany by a cooperating government.

Given Le Pen's entire party is bankrolled by Russian banks, I don't see her going along with that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 04:47:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2017, 04:42:05 AM
The original plan was that in the event of a war, the tanks and APCs will be shipped via the Channel Tunnel.

That is an example of single-point failure being taking to absolutely retarded extremes.

QuoteGiven Le Pen's entire party is bankrolled by Russian banks, I don't see her going along with that.

No, I don't, either. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2017, 04:50:59 AM
Well, I assume we could have the Royal Navy transport them into Germany direct via their northern ports...it'd just be that much more risky with Russian subs swarming the place and take three times as long.  Same with airlifts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 05:07:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2017, 04:50:59 AM
Well, I assume we could have the Royal Navy transport them into Germany direct via their northern ports...it'd just be that much more risky with Russian subs swarming the place and take three times as long.  Same with airlifts.

Airlifts are a non-starter for armored units, on any real scale.

But destroying a tunnel full of tanks seems pretty easy.  Especially if France is acting dodgy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on January 21, 2017, 04:08:49 PM
So, I'm thinking about starting a small business online advertising and selling jackboots and other authoritarian paraphernalia on facebook. This is clearly intended for trolling purposes, but, at the same time, I would like to actually be set up to sell with a vary small, simple and cheap website that is set up for drop-shipping. I think it gives the whole thing more of a "No, Seriously. Would you like to buy some jackboots, my good sir?" edge.

Anybody know anything about that kind of stuff?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 21, 2017, 06:17:06 PM
Not sure why you would want to supply paraphernalia to authoritarians? The trolling reason behind it isn't going to make much difference when the jackboots are being used to curbstomp a gay kid.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2017, 06:35:05 PM
I know a hell of a lot about making a living from selling online, and there's no way in hell I would help you with a project like that. Just FYI.

"You are what you eat" applies nowhere so well as it does in business.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on January 21, 2017, 06:36:04 PM
I am in heavy freak out mode. Gotta take a break from facebook, gotta talk to people more substantially. I have definitely gotten lazy in my socializing, not really engaging with people. Since my divorce and falling out with almost every friend I had I have been hesitant to really put myself out there, opting instead to snatch whatever low-hanging fruit I can find.

And now that either total destruction or white authoritarianism (which is just about the same) is looking likely, I am just fried. I want to yell at every god damn person who protest voted or didn't vote at all.

I would very much like to stop this ride and hop on a different one.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2017, 07:07:46 PM
This is, most assuredly, a fit-throwing hellride.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2017, 07:27:27 PM
I feel like my life has split into two halves; the before half, when I was a pretty young woman, a globally known artist in my field and then a star college student, PhD-bound, with three lovely healthy kids and the bloom of new love, all on our way to a secure future, and the after half, when I am a scarred old woman struggling with the aftermath of the death of my son, trudging through a Masters program and trying not to fear the future with a bumbling, mediocre, sexist, racist businessman in charge of the country and a shifting social climate in which even self-proclaimed liberals no longer feel they have to conceal their sexism and their racism, and think that this is the time to challenge feminist and civil rights movements for whatever reasons they imagine sound reasonable.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on January 22, 2017, 02:18:02 AM
RE: Hoopla & Nigel

I was never really expecting to actually sell any jackboots. My target audience is about a dozen or so people on my facebook who are acting like they could start goosestepping any minute, but I think they're the kind who would rather let someone else handle the dirty work. They're pretty much Dominionists, though I doubt they even know what that word means. Basically, all the people I un-un-followed after the election to keep an eye on; mostly people I went to elementary/middle/high school with, and people from my church.

Having thought about it some more, I think a better plan wold be to set up a website that just looks like a legitimate e-commerce site selling jackboots and brown shirts at amazing prices, which lets the attempted buyer fill out all their information (except credit card), then just before it gets to the last page, freezes up for about two minutes, and then they get a page that says something like "Sorry, something went wrong, please try again later".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 22, 2017, 03:03:43 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 02:18:02 AM
RE: Hoopla & Nigel

I was never really expecting to actually sell any jackboots. My target audience is about a dozen or so people on my facebook who are acting like they could start goosestepping any minute, but I think they're the kind who would rather let someone else handle the dirty work. They're pretty much Dominionists, though I doubt they even know what that word means. Basically, all the people I un-un-followed after the election to keep an eye on; mostly people I went to elementary/middle/high school with, and people from my church.

Having thought about it some more, I think a better plan wold be to set up a website that just looks like a legitimate e-commerce site selling jackboots and brown shirts at amazing prices, which lets the attempted buyer fill out all their information (except credit card), then just before it gets to the last page, freezes up for about two minutes, and then they get a page that says something like "Sorry, something went wrong, please try again later".

Ah, well I could get behind that. You should've opened with that. Remember, embellishment is the heart of storytelling.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on January 22, 2017, 03:24:22 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 22, 2017, 03:03:43 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 02:18:02 AM
RE: Hoopla & Nigel

I was never really expecting to actually sell any jackboots. My target audience is about a dozen or so people on my facebook who are acting like they could start goosestepping any minute, but I think they're the kind who would rather let someone else handle the dirty work. They're pretty much Dominionists, though I doubt they even know what that word means. Basically, all the people I un-un-followed after the election to keep an eye on; mostly people I went to elementary/middle/high school with, and people from my church.

Having thought about it some more, I think a better plan wold be to set up a website that just looks like a legitimate e-commerce site selling jackboots and brown shirts at amazing prices, which lets the attempted buyer fill out all their information (except credit card), then just before it gets to the last page, freezes up for about two minutes, and then they get a page that says something like "Sorry, something went wrong, please try again later".

Ah, well I could get behind that. You should've opened with that. Remember, embellishment is the heart of storytelling.

Yeah, sorry. Something on facebook pissed me off just as I was getting ready to leave for work, and I just kinda banged that first one out in a rush. At first, the idea of a site that actually sells jackboots seemed like a good beginning of an idea, but there were a few things in the back of my mind setting off alarms telling me it might need some adjusting.

For starters, what companies are out there that drop-ship jackboots? Do I want to do business with them? A company that specializes in jackboots and brown shirts? Nope. A company that sells boots, some of which happen to be jack, and shirts, some of which happen to be brown? Maybe.

Also, I know nothing about the jackboot market, and whether there are other uses for them besides Nazi-ing around in. For all I know, J.C. Penny sells them. Either way, I'm not really interested in selling them, merely the appearance of selling them.


Also, brown shirts and other things that fit the theme.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 02:18:02 AM
RE: Hoopla & Nigel

I was never really expecting to actually sell any jackboots. My target audience is about a dozen or so people on my facebook who are acting like they could start goosestepping any minute, but I think they're the kind who would rather let someone else handle the dirty work. They're pretty much Dominionists, though I doubt they even know what that word means. Basically, all the people I un-un-followed after the election to keep an eye on; mostly people I went to elementary/middle/high school with, and people from my church.

Having thought about it some more, I think a better plan wold be to set up a website that just looks like a legitimate e-commerce site selling jackboots and brown shirts at amazing prices, which lets the attempted buyer fill out all their information (except credit card), then just before it gets to the last page, freezes up for about two minutes, and then they get a page that says something like "Sorry, something went wrong, please try again later".

Ah, if you're just fucking with them and not actually taking their money, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 05:04:07 PM
Fuck this Presidency. I am noticing sexist, racist, homophobic posts and comments pop up more and more, from people I NEVER would have expected it from, along with lots and lots of posts aimed at knocking down people who support feminist and civil rights movements. This is more discouraging to me than the right-wing conservatives spouting the same garbage, because it tells me that there are a lot of people calling themselves liberals who have been allies in name only, because they got social approval for being allies, and now that they might get social approval for revealing their true feelings about uppity wimmins and queers and colored folk, they're testing the waters.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 22, 2017, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 05:04:07 PM
Fuck this Presidency. I am noticing sexist, racist, homophobic posts and comments pop up more and more, from people I NEVER would have expected it from, along with lots and lots of posts aimed at knocking down people who support feminist and civil rights movements. This is more discouraging to me than the right-wing conservatives spouting the same garbage, because it tells me that there are a lot of people calling themselves liberals who have been allies in name only, because they got social approval for being allies, and now that they might get social approval for revealing their true feelings about uppity wimmins and queers and colored folk, they're testing the waters.

I know what you mean.  It's awful.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 22, 2017, 06:39:21 PM
This week's SNL was hosted by Aziz Ansari (Tom from "Parks And Recreation"), and his monologue touched on this.

(Paraphrased)
"It's like Trump gets elected, and there's a whole bunch of people went, "Yay! I don't have to pretend I'm not racist anymore!"

"No guys, no. KEEP PRETENDING."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 10:36:55 PM
Seriously. PLEASE!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:41:15 PM
Brexit Britain all over again.  We're preparing ourselves over here for when Article 50 is enacted, for the ongoing racial discrimination and violence to get even worse.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2017, 11:03:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:41:15 PM
Brexit Britain all over again.  We're preparing ourselves over here for when Article 50 is enacted, for the ongoing racial discrimination and violence to get even worse.

This is me making preparations (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK9gY3VLKU4).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 23, 2017, 06:18:55 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 11:03:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:41:15 PM
Brexit Britain all over again.  We're preparing ourselves over here for when Article 50 is enacted, for the ongoing racial discrimination and violence to get even worse.

This is me making preparations (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK9gY3VLKU4).

Reasonable.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 23, 2017, 02:25:14 PM
Can't wait for the next news source Trump refers to as "fake news" to suggest they simply have alternative facts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2017, 11:06:41 PM
Currently feeling very pleased with myself for this quiz question:

10. Cnidaria have two life stages: (1 pt)

Harpy and cyst
Siren and abscess
Dryad and nodule
Medusa and polyp
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 23, 2017, 11:20:15 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2017, 11:06:41 PM
Currently feeling very pleased with myself for this quiz question:

10. Cnidaria have two life stages: (1 pt)

Harpy and cyst
Siren and abscess
Dryad and nodule
Medusa and polyp

:lulz:

Bonus question how many of these are the names of $25/plate gastropubs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: EK WAFFLR on January 23, 2017, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2017, 01:19:34 AM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 21, 2017, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on January 20, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
Is America great yet?

Jesus Christ what a shitshow

And to make things even better, on May 7th we'll learn if you guys still have a Europe.

What happens on May 7th?

French elections.  If Le Pen wins, she plans to have France leave the EU.


Woohooo!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 23, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
So, I've been working as a recruiter's assistant for close to 3 months (90 day probationary period is over in just over a week)... not a bad job, but it's very "salesman", which is not something I am particularly good at. There's also a bunch of minutiae one needs to remember in the computer system, and the recruiter I work under gets the full commission for work I do. (I screen potential clients, go through their work history, and decide if they are worth submitting to our clients).

So. it's a much better job than I have had since I got laid off from the Pussy Palace, but it's not really my cuppa, when it comes down to it.

A friend offered me a gig at a pot-growing garden on the north side of the city. Apparently it's licensed (not certain if this is true yet). Two bucks more per hour than the recruiter job, but there's obviously a bit of a stigma involved. Wife was unimpressed by the offer, despite the 2 dollars more. She sees me getting busted in a raid. Which I can't say I know for sure won't happen.

I'm thinking I should at least go for coffee with this friend and get more details. Or, am I nuts for even considering this? There is definitely a part of me worried I am just tryin to skirt responsibility. Probably a big part.

Opinions? (Apologies for post length)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 23, 2017, 11:45:09 PM
The fact that it's hourly sounds like a good sign that it's legit.

If it were illegal I feel like it'd be more like a x-amount-per-week sort of thing.

It should be noted that I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about it. Weed is that stuff that makes Floridians gnaw at each others' faces right?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 23, 2017, 11:50:12 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 23, 2017, 11:45:09 PM
The fact that it's hourly sounds like a good sign that it's legit.

If it were illegal I feel like it'd be more like a x-amount-per-week sort of thing.

It should be noted that I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about it. Weed is that stuff that makes Floridians gnaw at each others' faces right?

Well it certainly gives ME an appetite.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 23, 2017, 11:54:11 PM
Life is too short to be miserable.  If you don't like the current job, take the new job.

You'll feel much better, at least until Justin Trudeau's jackbooted goons do the Tucson shuffle on you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 23, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
So, I've been working as a recruiter's assistant for close to 3 months (90 day probationary period is over in just over a week)... not a bad job, but it's very "salesman", which is not something I am particularly good at. There's also a bunch of minutiae one needs to remember in the computer system, and the recruiter I work under gets the full commission for work I do. (I screen potential clients, go through their work history, and decide if they are worth submitting to our clients).

So. it's a much better job than I have had since I got laid off from the Pussy Palace, but it's not really my cuppa, when it comes down to it.

A friend offered me a gig at a pot-growing garden on the north side of the city. Apparently it's licensed (not certain if this is true yet). Two bucks more per hour than the recruiter job, but there's obviously a bit of a stigma involved. Wife was unimpressed by the offer, despite the 2 dollars more. She sees me getting busted in a raid. Which I can't say I know for sure won't happen.

I'm thinking I should at least go for coffee with this friend and get more details. Or, am I nuts for even considering this? There is definitely a part of me worried I am just tryin to skirt responsibility. Probably a big part.

Opinions? (Apologies for post length)

What's the likelihood of legality in your area? To me, it sounds like an amazing opportunity, if only because you will have an "in" when/if recreational pot is legalized there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 24, 2017, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 23, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
So, I've been working as a recruiter's assistant for close to 3 months (90 day probationary period is over in just over a week)... not a bad job, but it's very "salesman", which is not something I am particularly good at. There's also a bunch of minutiae one needs to remember in the computer system, and the recruiter I work under gets the full commission for work I do. (I screen potential clients, go through their work history, and decide if they are worth submitting to our clients).

So. it's a much better job than I have had since I got laid off from the Pussy Palace, but it's not really my cuppa, when it comes down to it.

A friend offered me a gig at a pot-growing garden on the north side of the city. Apparently it's licensed (not certain if this is true yet). Two bucks more per hour than the recruiter job, but there's obviously a bit of a stigma involved. Wife was unimpressed by the offer, despite the 2 dollars more. She sees me getting busted in a raid. Which I can't say I know for sure won't happen.

I'm thinking I should at least go for coffee with this friend and get more details. Or, am I nuts for even considering this? There is definitely a part of me worried I am just tryin to skirt responsibility. Probably a big part.

Opinions? (Apologies for post length)

What's the likelihood of legality in your area? To me, it sounds like an amazing opportunity, if only because you will have an "in" when/if recreational pot is legalized there.

It's likely pretty close, though I do wonder if the government is planning to take over growing if and when it's implemented.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 24, 2017, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 24, 2017, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 23, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
So, I've been working as a recruiter's assistant for close to 3 months (90 day probationary period is over in just over a week)... not a bad job, but it's very "salesman", which is not something I am particularly good at. There's also a bunch of minutiae one needs to remember in the computer system, and the recruiter I work under gets the full commission for work I do. (I screen potential clients, go through their work history, and decide if they are worth submitting to our clients).

So. it's a much better job than I have had since I got laid off from the Pussy Palace, but it's not really my cuppa, when it comes down to it.

A friend offered me a gig at a pot-growing garden on the north side of the city. Apparently it's licensed (not certain if this is true yet). Two bucks more per hour than the recruiter job, but there's obviously a bit of a stigma involved. Wife was unimpressed by the offer, despite the 2 dollars more. She sees me getting busted in a raid. Which I can't say I know for sure won't happen.

I'm thinking I should at least go for coffee with this friend and get more details. Or, am I nuts for even considering this? There is definitely a part of me worried I am just tryin to skirt responsibility. Probably a big part.

Opinions? (Apologies for post length)

What's the likelihood of legality in your area? To me, it sounds like an amazing opportunity, if only because you will have an "in" when/if recreational pot is legalized there.

It's likely pretty close, though I do wonder if the government is planning to take over growing if and when it's implemented.

It's worth considering the ways that growing would be very different to a traditional job before you take it on. You are growing a bunch of plants for around 4-6 months and then harvesting. One risk is that some disaster strikes and all your plants die. If disaster doesn't strike you're probably gonna be doing a lot of hauling soil/water around and trimming leaves day-to-day.


Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on January 24, 2017, 05:37:21 PM
Along with cool little mustaches and everything else, NAZIs have ruined the handle I have had for 8 years. Thanks, Hitler.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 24, 2017, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Shifty on January 24, 2017, 05:37:21 PM
Along with cool little mustaches and everything else, NAZIs have ruined the handle I have had for 8 years. Thanks, Hitler.

That sucks. I don't know what I'd do if I lost EoC.

Part of me does want to ruin each of your names until you're stuck with PgUpy or something though. Inserty.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on January 24, 2017, 06:08:58 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 24, 2017, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Shifty on January 24, 2017, 05:37:21 PM
Along with cool little mustaches and everything else, NAZIs have ruined the handle I have had for 8 years. Thanks, Hitler.

That sucks. I don't know what I'd do if I lost EoC.

Part of me does want to ruin each of your names until you're stuck with PgUpy or something though. Inserty.

:argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 24, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
I might just volunteer to take "Inserty".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 24, 2017, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 23, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
So, I've been working as a recruiter's assistant for close to 3 months (90 day probationary period is over in just over a week)... not a bad job, but it's very "salesman", which is not something I am particularly good at. There's also a bunch of minutiae one needs to remember in the computer system, and the recruiter I work under gets the full commission for work I do. (I screen potential clients, go through their work history, and decide if they are worth submitting to our clients).

So. it's a much better job than I have had since I got laid off from the Pussy Palace, but it's not really my cuppa, when it comes down to it.

A friend offered me a gig at a pot-growing garden on the north side of the city. Apparently it's licensed (not certain if this is true yet). Two bucks more per hour than the recruiter job, but there's obviously a bit of a stigma involved. Wife was unimpressed by the offer, despite the 2 dollars more. She sees me getting busted in a raid. Which I can't say I know for sure won't happen.

I'm thinking I should at least go for coffee with this friend and get more details. Or, am I nuts for even considering this? There is definitely a part of me worried I am just tryin to skirt responsibility. Probably a big part.

Opinions? (Apologies for post length)

What's the likelihood of legality in your area? To me, it sounds like an amazing opportunity, if only because you will have an "in" when/if recreational pot is legalized there.

It's likely pretty close, though I do wonder if the government is planning to take over growing if and when it's implemented.

Thinking strategically, and considering what has happened in Portland post-legalization, I would advise seriously considering this as a career option. Getting into any aspect of this industry is totally a who-you-know thing here now; it is an incredibly challenging industry to break into if you were not already involved pre-legalization. Industry skills are also highly portable, so although relocation destinations may currently be limited, it is certainly one aspect to consider.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: Shifty on January 24, 2017, 05:37:21 PM
Along with cool little mustaches and everything else, NAZIs have ruined the handle I have had for 8 years. Thanks, Hitler.

Wait what goddamnit
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 23, 2017, 11:20:15 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2017, 11:06:41 PM
Currently feeling very pleased with myself for this quiz question:

10. Cnidaria have two life stages: (1 pt)

Harpy and cyst
Siren and abscess
Dryad and nodule
Medusa and polyp

:lulz:

Bonus question how many of these are the names of $25/plate gastropubs.

The Dryad and Nodule is just up the street from us! Oh wait... no, that's Grain and Gristle.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 07:40:36 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 24, 2017, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Shifty on January 24, 2017, 05:37:21 PM
Along with cool little mustaches and everything else, NAZIs have ruined the handle I have had for 8 years. Thanks, Hitler.

That sucks. I don't know what I'd do if I lost EoC.

Part of me does want to ruin each of your names until you're stuck with PgUpy or something though. Inserty.

F5y
Commandy
Appley
Optiony
Fny (WTF is that key, anyway?)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 24, 2017, 07:44:33 PM
ScrollLocky
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 10:19:18 PM
Tabby
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 24, 2017, 10:37:46 PM
Homey?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 24, 2017, 11:48:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 24, 2017, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 23, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
So, I've been working as a recruiter's assistant for close to 3 months (90 day probationary period is over in just over a week)... not a bad job, but it's very "salesman", which is not something I am particularly good at. There's also a bunch of minutiae one needs to remember in the computer system, and the recruiter I work under gets the full commission for work I do. (I screen potential clients, go through their work history, and decide if they are worth submitting to our clients).

So. it's a much better job than I have had since I got laid off from the Pussy Palace, but it's not really my cuppa, when it comes down to it.

A friend offered me a gig at a pot-growing garden on the north side of the city. Apparently it's licensed (not certain if this is true yet). Two bucks more per hour than the recruiter job, but there's obviously a bit of a stigma involved. Wife was unimpressed by the offer, despite the 2 dollars more. She sees me getting busted in a raid. Which I can't say I know for sure won't happen.

I'm thinking I should at least go for coffee with this friend and get more details. Or, am I nuts for even considering this? There is definitely a part of me worried I am just tryin to skirt responsibility. Probably a big part.

Opinions? (Apologies for post length)

What's the likelihood of legality in your area? To me, it sounds like an amazing opportunity, if only because you will have an "in" when/if recreational pot is legalized there.

It's likely pretty close, though I do wonder if the government is planning to take over growing if and when it's implemented.

Thinking strategically, and considering what has happened in Portland post-legalization, I would advise seriously considering this as a career option. Getting into any aspect of this industry is totally a who-you-know thing here now; it is an incredibly challenging industry to break into if you were not already involved pre-legalization. Industry skills are also highly portable, so although relocation destinations may currently be limited, it is certainly one aspect to consider.

Thanks Nigel, that's good information to have under my belt when I go talk to my friend this weekend. I would love to get in on the ground floor of what will undoubtedly be a gargantuan industry here in Canada.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 12:55:34 AM
Quote from: Freeky on January 24, 2017, 10:37:46 PM
Homey?

OMG
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 12:56:15 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 24, 2017, 11:48:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 24, 2017, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 23, 2017, 11:37:24 PM
So, I've been working as a recruiter's assistant for close to 3 months (90 day probationary period is over in just over a week)... not a bad job, but it's very "salesman", which is not something I am particularly good at. There's also a bunch of minutiae one needs to remember in the computer system, and the recruiter I work under gets the full commission for work I do. (I screen potential clients, go through their work history, and decide if they are worth submitting to our clients).

So. it's a much better job than I have had since I got laid off from the Pussy Palace, but it's not really my cuppa, when it comes down to it.

A friend offered me a gig at a pot-growing garden on the north side of the city. Apparently it's licensed (not certain if this is true yet). Two bucks more per hour than the recruiter job, but there's obviously a bit of a stigma involved. Wife was unimpressed by the offer, despite the 2 dollars more. She sees me getting busted in a raid. Which I can't say I know for sure won't happen.

I'm thinking I should at least go for coffee with this friend and get more details. Or, am I nuts for even considering this? There is definitely a part of me worried I am just tryin to skirt responsibility. Probably a big part.

Opinions? (Apologies for post length)

What's the likelihood of legality in your area? To me, it sounds like an amazing opportunity, if only because you will have an "in" when/if recreational pot is legalized there.

It's likely pretty close, though I do wonder if the government is planning to take over growing if and when it's implemented.

Thinking strategically, and considering what has happened in Portland post-legalization, I would advise seriously considering this as a career option. Getting into any aspect of this industry is totally a who-you-know thing here now; it is an incredibly challenging industry to break into if you were not already involved pre-legalization. Industry skills are also highly portable, so although relocation destinations may currently be limited, it is certainly one aspect to consider.

Thanks Nigel, that's good information to have under my belt when I go talk to my friend this weekend. I would love to get in on the ground floor of what will undoubtedly be a gargantuan industry here in Canada.

YW! If you do pursue it, I hope it treats you well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 12:56:47 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 12:55:34 AM
Quote from: Freeky on January 24, 2017, 10:37:46 PM
Homey?

OMG

Homey the Alt
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 25, 2017, 02:08:14 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 12:56:47 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 12:55:34 AM
Quote from: Freeky on January 24, 2017, 10:37:46 PM
Homey?

OMG

Homey the Alt

Nailed it! :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 25, 2017, 03:26:51 AM
Cain, my mom asked who you are because you sometimes reply to my facebook posts. I told her I have no idea but I thought you should know that by elementary school measure we're friends now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 04:08:55 PM
Whyyyyy did I agree to go in at 9 am to observe the setup for sagittal brain sectioning on a day I have to be on campus until 8? I was there from 7:15 to 7:10 yesterday. I feel like I can't really complain about 12 hour days when I just got an unexpected 6-day weekend because of snow, but I am gonna anyway.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 25, 2017, 05:35:05 PM
I had stuff to do yesterday, and decided to take home a bus that would drop me off a few extra blocks from home so I could get some exercise.  Some drunk asshole staggered into my path and aggressively said "Hey. Where 'r you goin?!" When I glared and said I was going home, he stared at me, then said "Me, too," and fucking waved me on, gave me permission to leave.

I remember why I don't go out during the day, anymore.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2017, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 25, 2017, 03:26:51 AM
Cain, my mom asked who you are because you sometimes reply to my facebook posts. I told her I have no idea but I thought you should know that by elementary school measure we're friends now.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 09:05:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 04:08:55 PM
Whyyyyy did I agree to go in at 9 am to observe the setup for sagittal brain sectioning on a day I have to be on campus until 8? I was there from 7:15 to 7:10 yesterday. I feel like I can't really complain about 12 hour days when I just got an unexpected 6-day weekend because of snow, but I am gonna anyway.

The best thing about this complaint was when I got here and realized that I didn't have to be here until 11. It's tomorrow that I have to be here by 9.  :kingmeh:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 25, 2017, 11:49:31 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 09:05:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 04:08:55 PM
Whyyyyy did I agree to go in at 9 am to observe the setup for sagittal brain sectioning on a day I have to be on campus until 8? I was there from 7:15 to 7:10 yesterday. I feel like I can't really complain about 12 hour days when I just got an unexpected 6-day weekend because of snow, but I am gonna anyway.

The best thing about this complaint was when I got here and realized that I didn't have to be here until 11. It's tomorrow that I have to be here by 9.  :kingmeh:

That's a special kind of aggravation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2017, 12:00:38 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 25, 2017, 11:49:31 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 09:05:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 04:08:55 PM
Whyyyyy did I agree to go in at 9 am to observe the setup for sagittal brain sectioning on a day I have to be on campus until 8? I was there from 7:15 to 7:10 yesterday. I feel like I can't really complain about 12 hour days when I just got an unexpected 6-day weekend because of snow, but I am gonna anyway.

The best thing about this complaint was when I got here and realized that I didn't have to be here until 11. It's tomorrow that I have to be here by 9.  :kingmeh:

That's a special kind of aggravation.

I kinda feel like I trolled myself.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2017, 12:01:29 AM
My first choice for my grad committee said yes!

Now I just have to get the other guy to say yes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2017, 12:05:14 AM
And then the professor from grant writing popped around to ask whether he can use my specific aims as an example in his class. Do not know whether this is going to be flattering or humiliating.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 26, 2017, 12:08:59 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2017, 12:05:14 AM
And then the professor from grant writing popped around to ask whether he can use my specific aims as an example in his class. Do not know whether this is going to be flattering or humiliating.

Some people pay to be humiliated.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 26, 2017, 12:39:35 AM
Oh shit, Nigel, I hope it's not a humiliating thing!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 01:14:00 AM
And then this happened:

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_masturbating_to_mary_tyler_moore_society_is_a_real_thing
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2017, 05:38:09 AM
Turned out it was totally fine; he chose two of the more solid submissions for the class to read over and critique, so it was flattering with a helpful dose of humility. :lol:

I am feeling much better this term; both about the 12-hour days and about my progress. The wise old neurophysiologist I wanted on my grad committee said yes, so that was really nice.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 26, 2017, 12:26:33 PM
Three million people are mad enough to flood the streets. Twitter is full of alt accounts for government organizations getting gagged by the new administration. The NYC Counterterrorism people really liked our talk and want to do more stuff, same for the folks from the LA sheriff's department. I yelled at the DoD's chief engineer for being a colossal douche, and he apologized. D&D alignment chart references abounded, and I didn't have to explain the concept in detail to get folks on board. The mayor of Boston just told the administration to eat a dick.

Somebody help the world makes no sense.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
RP is now on Scrubgenius, the private board, moaning about how awful we all are.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2017, 03:39:43 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 26, 2017, 12:26:33 PM
Three million people are mad enough to flood the streets. Twitter is full of alt accounts for government organizations getting gagged by the new administration. The NYC Counterterrorism people really liked our talk and want to do more stuff, same for the folks from the LA sheriff's department. I yelled at the DoD's chief engineer for being a colossal douche, and he apologized. D&D alignment chart references abounded, and I didn't have to explain the concept in detail to get folks on board. The mayor of Boston just told the administration to eat a dick.

Somebody help the world makes no sense.

These are definitely the strangest of the Strange Times yet.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 26, 2017, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
RP is now on Scrubgenius, the private board, moaning about how awful we all are.   :lulz:

I love how the trolliest trolls always end up crying about their treatment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 26, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
RP is now on Scrubgenius, the private board, moaning about how awful we all are.   :lulz:

I believe that is the legal requirement for butthurt flouncing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 26, 2017, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
RP is now on Scrubgenius, the private board, moaning about how awful we all are.   :lulz:

I love how the trolliest trolls always end up crying about their treatment.

Yep.  Funniest thing is, he outed himself because he couldn't resist taking a shot at me. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 26, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
RP is now on Scrubgenius, the private board, moaning about how awful we all are.   :lulz:

I believe that is the legal requirement for butthurt flouncing.

well, he was banned, but yes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 06:54:07 PM
Here's a snippet:

QuoteDiscordianism has been hijacked. As much as the concept of the public domain of intellectual properties is worthy of support, this is one of the rare occasions in which the lack of formal control has resulted in a systematic perversion of the original idea. Discordianism was left to the public domain for a reason: if you ever suspect that anyone is dictating what Discordianism is, they are the enemy.

This has been happening for quite some time.

If you have your own idea of Discordianism and you start preaching it to other "Discordians", you will be accused of being a "Really Real Discordian". The "Really Real Discordian" accusation is a defense against any attacks towards the brand of Discordianism that has been co-opted. If someone accuses you of being a Really Real Discordian, it probably means you're onto something interesting that they don't want to hear. Or you're a complete ass. It's one of the two.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 26, 2017, 07:04:21 PM
I love the self-editing -- It's not about having a new idea, it's that they have the Really Real True Idea, and we're DOING IT WRONG.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 26, 2017, 07:04:21 PM
I love the self-editing -- It's not about having a new idea, it's that they have the Really Real True Idea, and we're DOING IT WRONG.

In related news, I just found out that rant got him banned, as it was obviously aimed at me after the admins told both of us to STFU.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 26, 2017, 07:08:06 PM
Wait, he got banned again?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 26, 2017, 07:08:06 PM
Wait, he got banned again?

Yes.  5 days of glory.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
I should know by tomorrow or Monday if I have the world's worst technical job.

Leaving Junkie in the dust, here, if I have it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 07:30:15 PM
That's hilarious, especially if he thought Scrubgenius was going to be more lenient with his bullshit than we were.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on January 26, 2017, 10:37:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
I should know by tomorrow or Monday if I have the world's worst technical job.

Leaving Junkie in the dust, here, if I have it.

I've spent the last few weeks crawling around a sewage plant so I'm out of the loop on a few things. Badly behind on others.

It's been a special kind of hell. The smell. Good gods the FUCKING SMELL.

still have another week to go to fully spec the budgets.

Hahahahapleasejustkillmenowhahaha
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2017, 02:17:25 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2017, 07:30:15 PM
That's hilarious, especially if he thought Scrubgenius was going to be more lenient with his bullshit than we were.

Scrubgenius will ban at the drop of a hat, and bans are forever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2017, 02:18:23 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 26, 2017, 10:37:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
I should know by tomorrow or Monday if I have the world's worst technical job.

Leaving Junkie in the dust, here, if I have it.

I've spent the last few weeks crawling around a sewage plant so I'm out of the loop on a few things. Badly behind on others.

It's been a special kind of hell. The smell. Good gods the FUCKING SMELL.

still have another week to go to fully spec the budgets.

Hahahahapleasejustkillmenowhahaha

Gotcha beat.  It's so bad that I'm never gonna say what it is.  The pay is, however, appropriate.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 27, 2017, 02:30:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 26, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
RP is now on Scrubgenius, the private board, moaning about how awful we all are.   :lulz:

I believe that is the legal requirement for butthurt flouncing.

well, he was banned, but yes.

Was he? I missed that. I assumed flounce based on past meltdowns.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2017, 03:50:56 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 27, 2017, 02:30:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 26, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
RP is now on Scrubgenius, the private board, moaning about how awful we all are.   :lulz:

I believe that is the legal requirement for butthurt flouncing.

well, he was banned, but yes.

Was he? I missed that. I assumed flounce based on past meltdowns.

He was banned here for spamming, there for shit-stirring.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on January 27, 2017, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2017, 02:18:23 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 26, 2017, 10:37:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
I should know by tomorrow or Monday if I have the world's worst technical job.

Leaving Junkie in the dust, here, if I have it.

I've spent the last few weeks crawling around a sewage plant so I'm out of the loop on a few things. Badly behind on others.

It's been a special kind of hell. The smell. Good gods the FUCKING SMELL.

still have another week to go to fully spec the budgets.

Hahahahapleasejustkillmenowhahaha

Gotcha beat.  It's so bad that I'm never gonna say what it is.  The pay is, however, appropriate.

Are you Trump's new cybersecurity czar?  I imagine having to explain the Cyber to Trump is fairly mortifying.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 27, 2017, 02:30:50 PM
Are you in charge of clearing the debris after White House basement parties?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on January 27, 2017, 03:01:01 PM
Someone on FB pointed out  that Steve Bannon looks like a Garbage Pail Kid.

(http://i.imgur.com/y4RSX2n.jpg)


Edited for ambiguation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2017, 03:02:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2017, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2017, 02:18:23 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 26, 2017, 10:37:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
I should know by tomorrow or Monday if I have the world's worst technical job.

Leaving Junkie in the dust, here, if I have it.

I've spent the last few weeks crawling around a sewage plant so I'm out of the loop on a few things. Badly behind on others.

It's been a special kind of hell. The smell. Good gods the FUCKING SMELL.

still have another week to go to fully spec the budgets.

Hahahahapleasejustkillmenowhahaha

Gotcha beat.  It's so bad that I'm never gonna say what it is.  The pay is, however, appropriate.

Are you Trump's new cybersecurity czar?  I imagine having to explain the Cyber to Trump is fairly mortifying.

Let's not get all crazy, now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on January 27, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
Husband is in hospital for eeg monitoring, they need to trigger a seizure and his brain isn't cooperating.  It's all like "oh sure now you WANT me to do this."

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 27, 2017, 04:55:22 PM
Shit.  Hope things turn out ok!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on January 27, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 27, 2017, 04:55:22 PM
Shit.  Hope things turn out ok!

Yeah they're doing sleep deprivation now and he ain't happy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on January 27, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
I hate my hometown. It has people like this.

QuoteI'm saying make sure the guy you're calling a Nazi is in fact a Nazi before using the term. If someone has evidence that Mr. "Hitler Wasn't Wrong" is in fact a dues-paying member of Stormfront or some other fascist promoting organization, I'd like to see it.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on January 28, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on January 27, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
I hate my hometown. It has people like this.

QuoteI'm saying make sure the guy you're calling a Nazi is in fact a Nazi before using the term. If someone has evidence that Mr. "Hitler Wasn't Wrong" is in fact a dues-paying member of Stormfront or some other fascist promoting organization, I'd like to see it.

Thinks only the ones with documentation are part of the problem... derp.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on January 28, 2017, 01:27:55 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 28, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on January 27, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
I hate my hometown. It has people like this.

QuoteI'm saying make sure the guy you're calling a Nazi is in fact a Nazi before using the term. If someone has evidence that Mr. "Hitler Wasn't Wrong" is in fact a dues-paying member of Stormfront or some other fascist promoting organization, I'd like to see it.

Thinks only the ones with documentation are part of the problem... derp.

Also
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2017, 04:54:47 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 27, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
Husband is in hospital for eeg monitoring, they need to trigger a seizure and his brain isn't cooperating.  It's all like "oh sure now you WANT me to do this."

Shit, dude. I hope they figure it out!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2017, 04:59:58 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on January 27, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
I hate my hometown. It has people like this.

QuoteI'm saying make sure the guy you're calling a Nazi is in fact a Nazi before using the term. If someone has evidence that Mr. "Hitler Wasn't Wrong" is in fact a dues-paying member of Stormfront or some other fascist promoting organization, I'd like to see it.

If he wants to get pedantic about it, almost nobody's a Nazi because the National Socialist German Workers' Party doesn't exist anymore.

But in the sense that a Nazi is someone who supports the ideology of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, anybody who thinks Hitler was right is definitely a Nazi.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2017, 05:02:41 AM
There is a massive group professor-fight being broadcast on the grad student listserv right now. I think they forgot that the original email CC'd us, and they just keep hitting "reply all". It's EPIC.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 28, 2017, 05:06:08 AM
What's it about?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2017, 03:27:19 PM
Can't say. But I am :lulz: at the fact that professors have epic email catfights. I can tell there's history behind it, too, so I assume it's not the first time it's happened; just the first time they have CCd the entire department.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 28, 2017, 09:28:53 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 29, 2017, 12:44:53 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on January 27, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
I hate my hometown. It has people like this.

QuoteI'm saying make sure the guy you're calling a Nazi is in fact a Nazi before using the term. If someone has evidence that Mr. "Hitler Wasn't Wrong" is in fact a dues-paying member of Stormfront or some other fascist promoting organization, I'd like to see it.

I hate to say this, but there is a possibility that "Hilter Did Nothing Wrong" guy may not be a Nazi. A 4chan Get thread a few years back went something along the lines of "whatever post hits [insert Big Round Number Here] is true forever" and "Hitler did nothing wrong" was the post that won. It was also one of the finalists in Mt Dew's poorly thought out online naming contest. Edgelord certainly, Nazi status is questionable.

Not the guy who got punched, though, that guy's a fucking Nazi all day.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on January 29, 2017, 02:20:46 AM
I just watched a guy punch a clown for charity.  It was strangely cathartic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on January 29, 2017, 02:32:52 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2017, 04:54:47 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 27, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
Husband is in hospital for eeg monitoring, they need to trigger a seizure and his brain isn't cooperating.  It's all like "oh sure now you WANT me to do this."

Shit, dude. I hope they figure it out!

Geh spikes but nothing else.  Hopefully that is enough.

Basically he had a seizure after a year of being free of them while on meds.  New neurologist didn't think previous assessment that his mri reveled a structural problem he said it was too soon after his first one, the anomaly might have been the brain recovering.  After asking me about sleep disruptions, I said yeah before he was on meds he'd sit up randomly, say things, occasionally sleepwalk. Neurologist suspected those were seizures and that the problem might have been going on longer than we think (sleep disturbances happened as long we've been together, seizures just 3 years) . 

So signed him up for this monitoring to find out what's going on.  I should have asked what the hell happens if his brain doesn't cooperate. We can't go any longer, too expensive, also not exactly healthy long term.

Though he got to wear the experimental dense eeg apparatus for two days and looked like a spaceman, so there's that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 04:35:59 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 29, 2017, 02:32:52 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2017, 04:54:47 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 27, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
Husband is in hospital for eeg monitoring, they need to trigger a seizure and his brain isn't cooperating.  It's all like "oh sure now you WANT me to do this."

Shit, dude. I hope they figure it out!

Geh spikes but nothing else.  Hopefully that is enough.

Basically he had a seizure after a year of being free of them while on meds.  New neurologist didn't think previous assessment that his mri reveled a structural problem he said it was too soon after his first one, the anomaly might have been the brain recovering.  After asking me about sleep disruptions, I said yeah before he was on meds he'd sit up randomly, say things, occasionally sleepwalk. Neurologist suspected those were seizures and that the problem might have been going on longer than we think (sleep disturbances happened as long we've been together, seizures just 3 years) . 

So signed him up for this monitoring to find out what's going on.  I should have asked what the hell happens if his brain doesn't cooperate. We can't go any longer, too expensive, also not exactly healthy long term.

Though he got to wear the experimental dense eeg apparatus for two days and looked like a spaceman, so there's that.

That is craptastic. Are they gonna do an fMRI, or is that too expensive?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2017, 05:42:25 AM
The last week has made me kinda sorry I wrote Life During Wartime, and glad I never published the 3rd book.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 29, 2017, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2017, 05:42:25 AM
The last week has made me kinda sorry I wrote Life During Wartime, and glad I never published the 3rd book.

Aww, man, I was still holding out hope for that too. I really liked that story.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on January 29, 2017, 06:24:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 04:35:59 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 29, 2017, 02:32:52 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2017, 04:54:47 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 27, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
Husband is in hospital for eeg monitoring, they need to trigger a seizure and his brain isn't cooperating.  It's all like "oh sure now you WANT me to do this."

Shit, dude. I hope they figure it out!

Geh spikes but nothing else.  Hopefully that is enough.

Basically he had a seizure after a year of being free of them while on meds.  New neurologist didn't think previous assessment that his mri reveled a structural problem he said it was too soon after his first one, the anomaly might have been the brain recovering.  After asking me about sleep disruptions, I said yeah before he was on meds he'd sit up randomly, say things, occasionally sleepwalk. Neurologist suspected those were seizures and that the problem might have been going on longer than we think (sleep disturbances happened as long we've been together, seizures just 3 years) . 

So signed him up for this monitoring to find out what's going on.  I should have asked what the hell happens if his brain doesn't cooperate. We can't go any longer, too expensive, also not exactly healthy long term.

Though he got to wear the experimental dense eeg apparatus for two days and looked like a spaceman, so there's that.

That is craptastic. Are they gonna do an fMRI, or is that too expensive?

Not sure yet.  He's home now.  See what they say about his stay.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2017, 03:38:10 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 29, 2017, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2017, 05:42:25 AM
The last week has made me kinda sorry I wrote Life During Wartime, and glad I never published the 3rd book.

Aww, man, I was still holding out hope for that too. I really liked that story.

I will send you a copy in PDF, because you of all people would love how things go.  I have been at one chapter left to go for 13 months.  I suppose I should finish it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on January 30, 2017, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 29, 2017, 12:44:53 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on January 27, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
I hate my hometown. It has people like this.

QuoteI'm saying make sure the guy you're calling a Nazi is in fact a Nazi before using the term. If someone has evidence that Mr. "Hitler Wasn't Wrong" is in fact a dues-paying member of Stormfront or some other fascist promoting organization, I'd like to see it.

I hate to say this, but there is a possibility that "Hilter Did Nothing Wrong" guy may not be a Nazi. A 4chan Get thread a few years back went something along the lines of "whatever post hits [insert Big Round Number Here] is true forever" and "Hitler did nothing wrong" was the post that won. It was also one of the finalists in Mt Dew's poorly thought out online naming contest. Edgelord certainly, Nazi status is questionable.

Not the guy who got punched, though, that guy's a fucking Nazi all day.

Someone spouts blatantly pro-Nazi shit they no longer get any kind of benefit of the doubt whether they are or are not a nazi.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: 00.dusk on January 30, 2017, 07:54:26 PM
That's definitely, IMO, the right mindset to have in these times.

Maybe five, ten years ago you could reasonably talk about "oh, maybe they're just edgy", but real Nazis are stalking these streets today. If you don't want to be mistaken for the Enemy, you don't adopt their ideological uniform. Period. The Resistance isn't too sure on who's part of them at the best of times.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 30, 2017, 08:45:12 PM
A new Donald. track has been released.

http://donald1.bandcamp.com/track/tear-it-down
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 30, 2017, 08:53:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 30, 2017, 08:45:12 PM
A new Donald. track has been released.

http://donald1.bandcamp.com/track/tear-it-down

Excellent! I can't wait to inflict this on my labmates.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 30, 2017, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on January 30, 2017, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 29, 2017, 12:44:53 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on January 27, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
I hate my hometown. It has people like this.

QuoteI'm saying make sure the guy you're calling a Nazi is in fact a Nazi before using the term. If someone has evidence that Mr. "Hitler Wasn't Wrong" is in fact a dues-paying member of Stormfront or some other fascist promoting organization, I'd like to see it.

I hate to say this, but there is a possibility that "Hilter Did Nothing Wrong" guy may not be a Nazi. A 4chan Get thread a few years back went something along the lines of "whatever post hits [insert Big Round Number Here] is true forever" and "Hitler did nothing wrong" was the post that won. It was also one of the finalists in Mt Dew's poorly thought out online naming contest. Edgelord certainly, Nazi status is questionable.

Not the guy who got punched, though, that guy's a fucking Nazi all day.

Someone spouts blatantly pro-Nazi shit they no longer get any kind of benefit of the doubt whether they are or are not a nazi.

Yeah, I'm with you here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 30, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
By all means, punch the edgelords. They are at the very best nazi-enablers at this point.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2017, 11:21:11 PM
Looks like I got the job.  I will be signing the w4 tomorrow.

I am now doing the most horrible technical job that exists.  Rat-catchers and British demolitions guys will sneer at me, though not at the pay.  Half of my time will be in Tucson, the other half in Phoenix.

Fortunately, the work is at night, to hide our shameful deeds.  Also it will only be 110F in the summer, instead of 120F, so I have that going for me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on January 31, 2017, 11:36:20 PM
So,  congrats?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2017, 12:06:52 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2017, 11:36:20 PM
So,  congrats?

Thanks.  I was really worried that this was going to be another never-ending disaster.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2017, 03:44:44 AM
50% of your time in Phoenix... :eek:

I stole a mattress tonight.  Hopefully this will ensure a good sleep tomorrow, because if it doesn't I'm going to have to look up some hotels to stay at during my time off.  I'm pretty sure the mattress was the problem though, going by the aches in my back.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2017, 04:19:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 03:44:44 AM
50% of your time in Phoenix... :eek:

I became associated with climate change research, at even the lowest level.  CAP jobs are kind of "not happening for Roger", and thus I must spend a few years in purgatory.

It's at night, so it isn't actually hell.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 01, 2017, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 01, 2017, 04:19:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 03:44:44 AM
50% of your time in Phoenix... :eek:

I became associated with climate change research, at even the lowest level.  CAP jobs are kind of "not happening for Roger", and thus I must spend a few years in purgatory.

It's at night, so it isn't actually hell.

So, good on the whole, right?

It's kind of hard to tell.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2017, 06:21:12 PM
Well, night-time just means you can't see the demons coming.  Unless your job gives you cool nightvision goggles or something, which is entirely possible.

Looks like the mattress was indeed the problem. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2017, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 06:21:12 PM
Well, night-time just means you can't see the demons coming.  Unless your job gives you cool nightvision goggles or something, which is entirely possible.

Looks like the mattress was indeed the problem.

Good, I hope that means you got some damn sleep for a change.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2017, 08:57:19 PM
I did, but I woke up to this...:

Wow, so that just happened.

Work rant incoming, so you know what to do if that doesn't interest you...

A student went missing last night. Didn't sign back into the building, didn't show up for curfew, no information to explain his absence, not hiding in anyone else's room.

As our students are over 18, but still in our care, there is little I can do but ensure he is not here (especially after last week, when the other night shift reported the student missing despite him being in the kitchen), attempt to contact him by his (switched off) phone and keep checking the room, on the off chance he was somewhere else in the building and had forgotten to sign in.

Come 7am, there's no sign of him, so I inform the building manager, write up a report and sign off for the day.

My manager instructed the day shift to check, via the electronic registration form, whether the missing student had attended class today. When he saw there was a "late" on his first class, he declared the problem solved. Two hours later, his boss rang, saying the student had missed all the classes that day (the initial entry was user error) and that they had to locate him.

Using the older student records, they found a previous phone number and called it, asking for the missing student to get in touch. An hour later, he got a text back, saying that everything was OK. No call to speak with him, no verification that it was actally him sending the text, just a single text saying everything was OK. No location or reason for the absence was even given. My boss, deciding this was his allotted work for the day, declared the case solved and went home at 3pm, as is his usual schedule.

Fortunately, his boss, despite his own moral, intellectual and emotional failings, decided to actually do his job and get in contact with the student via his parents (who were understandably very concerned about their son going missing in a city halfway across the world) and speak with him, on the phone, to ensure he was OK and verify his location and return date.

But still....if the student hadn't been OK, if something had happened...my manager would be up on charges of negligence at the very least. According to the day staff, he spent more time crowing about his "brilliance" in sending a text to an old number than he did being concerned that a student had vanished, especially a student without prior incidents of similar events.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2017, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 08:57:19 PM
I did, but I woke up to this...:

Wow, so that just happened.

Work rant incoming, so you know what to do if that doesn't interest you...

A student went missing last night. Didn't sign back into the building, didn't show up for curfew, no information to explain his absence, not hiding in anyone else's room.

As our students are over 18, but still in our care, there is little I can do but ensure he is not here (especially after last week, when the other night shift reported the student missing despite him being in the kitchen), attempt to contact him by his (switched off) phone and keep checking the room, on the off chance he was somewhere else in the building and had forgotten to sign in.

Come 7am, there's no sign of him, so I inform the building manager, write up a report and sign off for the day.

My manager instructed the day shift to check, via the electronic registration form, whether the missing student had attended class today. When he saw there was a "late" on his first class, he declared the problem solved. Two hours later, his boss rang, saying the student had missed all the classes that day (the initial entry was user error) and that they had to locate him.

Using the older student records, they found a previous phone number and called it, asking for the missing student to get in touch. An hour later, he got a text back, saying that everything was OK. No call to speak with him, no verification that it was actally him sending the text, just a single text saying everything was OK. No location or reason for the absence was even given. My boss, deciding this was his allotted work for the day, declared the case solved and went home at 3pm, as is his usual schedule.

Fortunately, his boss, despite his own moral, intellectual and emotional failings, decided to actually do his job and get in contact with the student via his parents (who were understandably very concerned about their son going missing in a city halfway across the world) and speak with him, on the phone, to ensure he was OK and verify his location and return date.

But still....if the student hadn't been OK, if something had happened...my manager would be up on charges of negligence at the very least. According to the day staff, he spent more time crowing about his "brilliance" in sending a text to an old number than he did being concerned that a student had vanished, especially a student without prior incidents of similar events.

What the actual fuck? That guy needs to get fired. Just fucking straight-up fired.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2017, 09:00:55 PM
He also called about 20 minutes ago to discuss a misplaced staff phone (shitty Nokia that cost about £10).  He showed more concern for that than for the student.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on February 01, 2017, 09:16:17 PM
Yeah could have been a serial killer responding for all he knew.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 01, 2017, 09:22:59 PM
Holy shit and for fuck's sake.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 02, 2017, 10:14:31 PM
I am incredibly gassy (probably from chasing yesterday's carne asada burrito with chili for dinner) and class starts in 15 minutes.

Good thing we're dissecting marine organisms today!  :lulz: The lab is going to be a cornucopia of smells.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 02, 2017, 10:26:08 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 02, 2017, 10:14:31 PM
I am incredibly gassy (probably from chasing yesterday's carne asada burrito with chili for dinner) and class starts in 15 minutes.

Good thing we're dissecting marine organisms today!  :lulz: The lab is going to be a cornucopia of smells.
:horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 03, 2017, 07:04:09 AM
So, at the new job. Nights. Horrible stuff.

I called the lady that my boss unjustly fired prior to the layoffs and asked her if she was still looking for work. I told her what the work was, and she laughed.

Then I told her what the pay was, and she stopped laughing.

So now she's employed again after 8 weeks of being out of work, making $10K more than she used to make, and I have a reliable employee who isn't afraid of anything at all.

which can be important when you're doing this kind of work in the dead of night.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 03, 2017, 01:47:51 PM
"This, students, is where we typically mark the point at which The Holy And Terrible Army of Roger began."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 03, 2017, 03:34:40 PM
Friend of mine works with injured birds, they have a long term bald eagle resident that lays a sterile egg every year. 

Can't help but wonder what bald eagle egg tastes like.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2017, 04:37:32 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 03, 2017, 03:34:40 PM
Friend of mine works with injured birds, they have a long term bald eagle resident that lays a sterile egg every year. 

Can't help but wonder what bald eagle egg tastes like.

Probably very close to chicken eggs, but with a cod liver oil-esque overtone.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 03, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
I think you mean they taste of FREEDOM
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2017, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 03, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
I think you mean they taste of FREEDOM

That's pretty much just paraphrasing what I said, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2017, 05:04:47 PM
So my incredibly annoying Harry Potter-looking Emo Philips-soundalike intern has been increasingly obnoxious and needy, despite being put on some much easier tasks, and apparently she had some sort of meltdown yesterday and walked out early while all the researchers were in lab meeting.

She's been complaining about absolutely everything, and her most recent complaint was that 8 hours a week is too much of a time commitment, despite the fact that she signed up for research credit last term and is only here this term because she never showed up and took an incomplete.

I would have more sympathy for her, except that she has never, ever, not even once, actually been in the lab 8 hours a week. She arrives late, leaves early, and calls in sick/unavailable at least once a week. There is no way she will ever fulfill her time obligation to get a decent grade on the ONE credit she is trying to make up.

I can't wait until the end of the term, man. This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 03, 2017, 05:24:49 PM
That sounds suspiciously similar to a corporate work environment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2017, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 03, 2017, 05:24:49 PM
That sounds suspiciously similar to a corporate work environment.

It sort of is like that, except this is not supposed to happen in a lab. Maybe she's just confused about where she is, and what research experience is supposed to do for her resume.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 03, 2017, 06:54:16 PM
Sounds like a useless lazy fuck of a person. To Wallmart, there's shelves to be stacked! :evil:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2017, 08:17:01 PM
I don't know WTF is wrong with her, but I know I want to stay as far away as possible because she strikes me as the type who files complaints when things don't go her way. She is very, very, very whiny, and everything that happens is always someone else's fault.

Last week, it was her professor's fault she didn't make an appointment to take her exam in the testing center earlier in the term before all the slots filled up.

I can see where this trainwreck is heading, and as the lab liaison I fully anticipate that she will try to make it my fault.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on February 04, 2017, 02:27:33 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 03, 2017, 07:04:09 AM
So, at the new job. Nights. Horrible stuff.

I called the lady that my boss unjustly fired prior to the layoffs and asked her if she was still looking for work. I told her what the work was, and she laughed.

Then I told her what the pay was, and she stopped laughing.

So now she's employed again after 8 weeks of being out of work, making $10K more than she used to make, and I have a reliable employee who isn't afraid of anything at all.

which can be important when you're doing this kind of work in the dead of night.

I feel embarrassed that I lack the imagination to even speculate what this line of work is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 04, 2017, 02:47:09 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on February 04, 2017, 02:27:33 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 03, 2017, 07:04:09 AM
So, at the new job. Nights. Horrible stuff.

I called the lady that my boss unjustly fired prior to the layoffs and asked her if she was still looking for work. I told her what the work was, and she laughed.

Then I told her what the pay was, and she stopped laughing.

So now she's employed again after 8 weeks of being out of work, making $10K more than she used to make, and I have a reliable employee who isn't afraid of anything at all.

which can be important when you're doing this kind of work in the dead of night.

I feel embarrassed that I lack the imagination to even speculate what this line of work is.

Grave Robbing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2017, 04:24:57 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 04, 2017, 02:47:09 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on February 04, 2017, 02:27:33 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 03, 2017, 07:04:09 AM
So, at the new job. Nights. Horrible stuff.

I called the lady that my boss unjustly fired prior to the layoffs and asked her if she was still looking for work. I told her what the work was, and she laughed.

Then I told her what the pay was, and she stopped laughing.

So now she's employed again after 8 weeks of being out of work, making $10K more than she used to make, and I have a reliable employee who isn't afraid of anything at all.

which can be important when you're doing this kind of work in the dead of night.

I feel embarrassed that I lack the imagination to even speculate what this line of work is.

Grave Robbing.

Pffft.  Grave robbers would throw us out of the house party for making them feel sick.

Also, this is legal and very, very necessary.  It's just horrible.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2017, 04:25:22 AM
Quote from: LMNO on February 03, 2017, 01:47:51 PM
"This, students, is where we typically mark the point at which The Holy And Terrible Army of Roger began."

In the dark.  with nobody watching.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 04, 2017, 07:06:36 PM
So I've decided to stop fucking around online and actually write a PhD thesis proposal.  So far, so good.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2017, 07:14:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 04, 2017, 07:06:36 PM
So I've decided to stop fucking around online and actually write a PhD thesis proposal.  So far, so good.

Bad ass!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 04, 2017, 07:26:23 PM
From what I can see, 2000 words is the standard.  Given I came up with my latest, most coherent idea, at about 1700, and it's now 1930, and I have 500 words down, I feel like I'm onto something.  If I can finish this tonight, I can spend my next 3 work nights sending off applications.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2017, 07:39:53 PM
I should be working on my prospectus as well, but instead I get to go talk to my father, who has Alzheimers and is now denying having had a stroke. He wants to move into our basement, which is a bad idea for a plethora of reasons including that we are still grieving the loss of my son, the basement is not currently habitable, we have only one bathroom, we have no storage space, and I don't have time to deal with any of this given that I am also trying to raise the girls and get through grad school.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 04, 2017, 07:51:06 PM
Urgh, Alzheimers is tough, no matter what.  On top of everything else...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2017, 10:25:09 PM
It gets better. So much better.

My dad never sold or otherwise disposed of his massive firearm collection after his conviction for voter fraud. His property in Washington was broken into, and in the process of taking care of the situation my brother and the sheriff's department found that he had moved everything up there.

So now, there may be charges brought against him for illegal possession of 500+ guns.

FML.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 05, 2017, 12:53:41 AM
If I stab my husband's girlfriend in the face, I want you all to know it was because of Fox News and not jealousy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 05, 2017, 01:11:21 AM
Both believable and reasonable, QG.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 05, 2017, 04:15:31 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 05, 2017, 12:53:41 AM
If I stab my husband's girlfriend in the face, I want you all to know it was because of Fox News and not jealousy.

Oh I definitely could understand that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 05, 2017, 04:16:43 AM
EFO opened commissions after taking a month off and got 5 in the first day. I think this officially makes her a working artist. I'm so proud!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Pergamos on February 05, 2017, 04:57:38 AM
I have a real job for the first time in a very long time.  it involves getting up very early in the morning and helping people build houses.  i am enjoying it far more than I would have predicted.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2017, 08:01:16 PM
Just another day at work:

>Email is sent that student is no longer allowed guests due to something that happened on weekend
>Come onto shift, find student has two guests in the building

(http://www.troll.me/images/yu-no-guy/y-u-no-read-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 06, 2017, 08:04:51 PM
Guys, people seriously think Lady Gaga is a Satanist and a member of the Illuminati. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 06, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 06, 2017, 08:04:51 PM
Guys, people seriously think Lady Gaga is a Satanist and a member of the Illuminati. 

Of course they do, they're people. Fuckers will believe any shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 06, 2017, 08:08:17 PM
I really wish that was true.

On the plus side, Miley Cyrus totally is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2017, 08:14:23 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 06, 2017, 08:04:51 PM
Guys, people seriously think Lady Gaga is a Satanist and a member of the Illuminati.

Glow in the dark bat'leth's are pretty Satanic IMO
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 06, 2017, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2017, 08:14:23 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 06, 2017, 08:04:51 PM
Guys, people seriously think Lady Gaga is a Satanist and a member of the Illuminati.

Glow in the dark bat'leth's are pretty Satanic IMO

Needed moar baphomets. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: NeonWytch on February 06, 2017, 09:29:58 PM
It's been interesting watching the alt right (de?)evolve from it's pseudointellectual "dark enlightenment" roots and slide further into kek-worship and alex jones. this is what happens when you coopt image board culture. Gamergate was a blessing and a curse for the alt-right.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on February 06, 2017, 09:59:10 PM
I came back
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 06, 2017, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Pope Pixie Pickle on February 06, 2017, 09:59:10 PM
I came back

:noodledance:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 06, 2017, 11:29:28 PM
Hey Pixie!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on February 06, 2017, 11:42:45 PM
Quote from: Pope Pixie Pickle on February 06, 2017, 09:59:10 PM
I came back

Happy birthday!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on February 07, 2017, 12:54:07 AM
Me, I'm hunting reptlicants.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 07, 2017, 01:00:39 AM
Already tired of the "my team lost the Superbowl. Maybe I should go march in protest" derpery.

So tired.

tired
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 07, 2017, 08:03:16 AM
Quote from: Pope Pixie Pickle on February 06, 2017, 09:59:10 PM
I came back

PIIIIIIIIIIXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yay. :) I am glad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on February 07, 2017, 11:04:58 PM
When you file your taxes and hardly get shit back, so you start considering Anarchism as a valid political viewpoint.   :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 08, 2017, 12:31:23 AM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on February 07, 2017, 11:04:58 PM
When you file your taxes and hardly get shit back, so you start considering Anarchism as a valid political viewpoint.   :argh!:

:um:

That is basically the argument of libertarians and the wealthy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2017, 12:31:48 AM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on February 07, 2017, 11:04:58 PM
When you file your taxes and hardly get shit back, so you start considering Anarchism as a valid political viewpoint.   :argh!:

:|
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 08, 2017, 12:35:02 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2017, 12:31:48 AM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on February 07, 2017, 11:04:58 PM
When you file your taxes and hardly get shit back, so you start considering Anarchism as a valid political viewpoint.   :argh!:

:|

I remember being kind of happy when I got back less from my income tax refunds than I had paid in for the first time. Even if it was a wage that was paid with tax moneys.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on February 08, 2017, 01:01:05 AM
The company I support had a major system failure a week or so ago, and it gave me the opportunity to shine. The company's VPN system failed for many people who don't have an office location to go to. The fix was to install the newest version of the VPN program.

As a contractor, I have access to Remote Administration Tools, which grant me the ability to remote into users' computers that aren't connected to the Company's network. From there, I would transfer the new update to the user's computer and run it.

The unfortunate part, is that none of the users have Administrative access over their workstations. So the installs were only working on computers owned by developers who were granted local admin rights.

Our Deskside team decided to ignore our request for the local Admin passwords until several hundred people were unable to work. Once we finally got the passwords, we found out that the passwords are changed monthly, and pushed out via Group Policy. This is both, extremely inconvenient, and very insecure, for reasons I will go into later. But it essentially meant that the Deskside team's method for resolution was to try every password from every month since the computer was made. And when they realized that this process was going to be tedious and time consuming, they decided that they were NOT going to actually fix the issues. Instead, their entire department started forwarding their tickets to our team of 3 people.

In minutes, I simplified the entire process with a single Command from the command line. I sent an email to my team describing the much more simplified process. My boss decided to forward my email, with no context or explanation, to the entire Deskside team and it's Department Head.

The email, as it was received, appeared to be me telling the Deskside team how to do their jobs, bluntly. Best part is, the head of the Deskside department commended me for it in a reply all. Then, they forwarded it to other higher-ups within the company.

After that, and my exposure of a serious security flaw during a several-hundred dollar bridge call with some higher-ups, higher-ups within my own company started to take notice. We received some nice bonuses, and now my boss is forwarding internal, management-level job offers to me. Things are looking very very good for me at the moment.



Quote from: Don Coyote on February 08, 2017, 12:31:23 AM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on February 07, 2017, 11:04:58 PM
When you file your taxes and hardly get shit back, so you start considering Anarchism as a valid political viewpoint.   :argh!:

:um:

That is basically the argument of libertarians and the wealthy.

That was the joke  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 08, 2017, 03:42:53 AM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on February 08, 2017, 01:01:05 AM
The company I support had a major system failure a week or so ago, and it gave me the opportunity to shine. The company's VPN system failed for many people who don't have an office location to go to. The fix was to install the newest version of the VPN program.

As a contractor, I have access to Remote Administration Tools, which grant me the ability to remote into users' computers that aren't connected to the Company's network. From there, I would transfer the new update to the user's computer and run it.

The unfortunate part, is that none of the users have Administrative access over their workstations. So the installs were only working on computers owned by developers who were granted local admin rights.

Our Deskside team decided to ignore our request for the local Admin passwords until several hundred people were unable to work. Once we finally got the passwords, we found out that the passwords are changed monthly, and pushed out via Group Policy. This is both, extremely inconvenient, and very insecure, for reasons I will go into later. But it essentially meant that the Deskside team's method for resolution was to try every password from every month since the computer was made. And when they realized that this process was going to be tedious and time consuming, they decided that they were NOT going to actually fix the issues. Instead, their entire department started forwarding their tickets to our team of 3 people.

In minutes, I simplified the entire process with a single Command from the command line. I sent an email to my team describing the much more simplified process. My boss decided to forward my email, with no context or explanation, to the entire Deskside team and it's Department Head.

The email, as it was received, appeared to be me telling the Deskside team how to do their jobs, bluntly. Best part is, the head of the Deskside department commended me for it in a reply all. Then, they forwarded it to other higher-ups within the company.

After that, and my exposure of a serious security flaw during a several-hundred dollar bridge call with some higher-ups, higher-ups within my own company started to take notice. We received some nice bonuses, and now my boss is forwarding internal, management-level job offers to me. Things are looking very very good for me at the moment.



Quote from: Don Coyote on February 08, 2017, 12:31:23 AM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on February 07, 2017, 11:04:58 PM
When you file your taxes and hardly get shit back, so you start considering Anarchism as a valid political viewpoint.   :argh!:

:um:

That is basically the argument of libertarians and the wealthy.

That was the joke  :lulz:

Nice.  Best I can get when I yell at people up the chain that something is broken, I get an acknowledgement that something is broken.

Right now trying to figure out who to yell at for their stupid idea to try to just ship weather media systems to other countries when said countries have (effectively) no local data or models tailored to the region. 

This is despite the fact we sell systems that can measure said data.  They aren't packaging them together or have any sort of push to sell them in said countries.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 08, 2017, 08:40:36 AM
You know you had a shit day when the part where you were first on the scene of a horrific car accident and ended up spending several minutes giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to a probably dead guy was not even remotely the worst part of your day.

Man, seriously fuck this shit right in the ear. I'm ready to just walk deep into the woods somewhere and call it a fucking day.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 08, 2017, 01:10:56 PM
Holy Fuck.  ECH, I don't know how this stuff keeps happening to you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 08, 2017, 02:34:10 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 08, 2017, 08:40:36 AM
You know you had a shit day when the part where you were first on the scene of a horrific car accident and ended up spending several minutes giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to a probably dead guy was not even remotely the worst part of your day.

Man, seriously fuck this shit right in the ear. I'm ready to just walk deep into the woods somewhere and call it a fucking day.

:sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2017, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 08, 2017, 08:40:36 AM
You know you had a shit day when the part where you were first on the scene of a horrific car accident and ended up spending several minutes giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to a probably dead guy was not even remotely the worst part of your day.

Man, seriously fuck this shit right in the ear. I'm ready to just walk deep into the woods somewhere and call it a fucking day.

Jesus fuck. :(
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on February 08, 2017, 04:00:45 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 08, 2017, 03:42:53 AM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on February 08, 2017, 01:01:05 AM
The company I support had a major system failure a week or so ago, and it gave me the opportunity to shine. The company's VPN system failed for many people who don't have an office location to go to. The fix was to install the newest version of the VPN program.

As a contractor, I have access to Remote Administration Tools, which grant me the ability to remote into users' computers that aren't connected to the Company's network. From there, I would transfer the new update to the user's computer and run it.

The unfortunate part, is that none of the users have Administrative access over their workstations. So the installs were only working on computers owned by developers who were granted local admin rights.

Our Deskside team decided to ignore our request for the local Admin passwords until several hundred people were unable to work. Once we finally got the passwords, we found out that the passwords are changed monthly, and pushed out via Group Policy. This is both, extremely inconvenient, and very insecure, for reasons I will go into later. But it essentially meant that the Deskside team's method for resolution was to try every password from every month since the computer was made. And when they realized that this process was going to be tedious and time consuming, they decided that they were NOT going to actually fix the issues. Instead, their entire department started forwarding their tickets to our team of 3 people.

In minutes, I simplified the entire process with a single Command from the command line. I sent an email to my team describing the much more simplified process. My boss decided to forward my email, with no context or explanation, to the entire Deskside team and it's Department Head.

The email, as it was received, appeared to be me telling the Deskside team how to do their jobs, bluntly. Best part is, the head of the Deskside department commended me for it in a reply all. Then, they forwarded it to other higher-ups within the company.

After that, and my exposure of a serious security flaw during a several-hundred dollar bridge call with some higher-ups, higher-ups within my own company started to take notice. We received some nice bonuses, and now my boss is forwarding internal, management-level job offers to me. Things are looking very very good for me at the moment.



Quote from: Don Coyote on February 08, 2017, 12:31:23 AM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on February 07, 2017, 11:04:58 PM
When you file your taxes and hardly get shit back, so you start considering Anarchism as a valid political viewpoint.   :argh!:

:um:

That is basically the argument of libertarians and the wealthy.

That was the joke  :lulz:

Nice.  Best I can get when I yell at people up the chain that something is broken, I get an acknowledgement that something is broken.

Right now trying to figure out who to yell at for their stupid idea to try to just ship weather media systems to other countries when said countries have (effectively) no local data or models tailored to the region. 

This is despite the fact we sell systems that can measure said data.  They aren't packaging them together or have any sort of push to sell them in said countries.

:lulz:

That's like knowingly offering to baby-sit for a couple that doesn't have a kid. And then, when they tell you they don't have a kid, but want to adopt one, you tell them that you have a kid you were wanting to put up for adoption, but not for them.

Does your company already communicate with these potential non-customers? Or are they just shipping these products over to these countries based on speculation that one of them will be stupid enough to buy techmology they can't use yet?

Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 08, 2017, 08:40:36 AM
You know you had a shit day when the part where you were first on the scene of a horrific car accident and ended up spending several minutes giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to a probably dead guy was not even remotely the worst part of your day.

Man, seriously fuck this shit right in the ear. I'm ready to just walk deep into the woods somewhere and call it a fucking day.

What the FUCK.  :cry:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 08, 2017, 04:29:03 PM
Christ, ECH.   :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 08, 2017, 05:34:55 PM
I checked and apparently it was not a fatality accident. So I guess that's a win, at least.

Quote from: LMNO on February 08, 2017, 01:10:56 PM
Holy Fuck.  ECH, I don't know how this stuff keeps happening to you.

Mostly it doesn't happen to me, I just have a knack for being around when it happens to other people. Not sure if I'm just hyper-obsevant or if I've got my own personal entropy cloud that follows me around.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 08, 2017, 05:41:19 PM
Glad they're not dead.  Hey - you may have saved someone's life!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2017, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 08, 2017, 05:34:55 PM
I checked and apparently it was not a fatality accident. So I guess that's a win, at least.


Yay for dude not being dead! Way to go!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 08, 2017, 07:16:05 PM
To be honest, I'd go back and finish him off myself in exchange for the rest of the day never happening so it's hard to be stoked about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2017, 08:04:31 PM
Wow, I'm sorry. That does sound like a truly terrible day.

Will things ultimately be OK?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 08:49:25 AM
Dpends on your definition of "ultimately", I guess. Some day we'll all be stardust again, so yes.

But in the short term, maybe not so much. I fear I may soon need a custody lawyer, and if you're a father in WA that's not a good spot to be in, legally speaking.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 09, 2017, 09:21:44 AM
Oh, shit, dude. :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Aucoq on February 09, 2017, 10:19:43 AM
Fuck.  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 09, 2017, 10:34:16 AM
 :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: EK WAFFLR on February 09, 2017, 11:33:07 AM
Oh fuck, ECH.

:sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 09, 2017, 12:43:11 PM
 :sad: shit fuck damn
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 09, 2017, 01:44:21 PM
fuck
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 09, 2017, 04:39:19 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 08:49:25 AM
Dpends on your definition of "ultimately", I guess. Some day we'll all be stardust again, so yes.

But in the short term, maybe not so much. I fear I may soon need a custody lawyer, and if you're a father in WA that's not a good spot to be in, legally speaking.

Oh, no. :( I thought WA was a coparenting state like Oregon is. I'm sorry to hear about that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 09, 2017, 04:53:56 PM
I'm sorry, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 09, 2017, 05:35:08 PM
Shit, ECH. Fingers crossed things don't go as ugly as they can.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ziegejunge on February 09, 2017, 06:56:21 PM
I too offer disgusted expletives and sincere sympathies. I hope things improve for you soon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 07:17:49 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 09, 2017, 04:39:19 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 08:49:25 AM
Dpends on your definition of "ultimately", I guess. Some day we'll all be stardust again, so yes.

But in the short term, maybe not so much. I fear I may soon need a custody lawyer, and if you're a father in WA that's not a good spot to be in, legally speaking.

Oh, no. :( I thought WA was a coparenting state like Oregon is. I'm sorry to hear about that.

There's no actual joint custody in WA, they have you do a "parenting plan" that the court signs off on and even though you are both legally custodial parents the state designates one parent as the primary and one as the secondary. She'll be the primary by default and the primary can legally move out of state with the child with virtually no legal recourse for me. I will not have that same right. Oregon is MUCH more equitable in such matters.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 07:44:22 PM
Also, if it goes to court the state will sue me for child support by default because baby girl is on state health care. I'm perfectly willing to spend every last penny I have on my child but I don't at all like the idea of being required to just cut a check with no say as to how it's spent. I understand there are plenty of shitheads out there for whom such requirements are necessary for the child's well being. I am not one of them, and though her mom is a great mother, she doesn't always have long-term big picture stuff in focus as well as I do. If the state gets involved they won't, for example, allow some of my child support to be put into an interest-bearing account for the purpose of being maybe able to afford a few years of Montessori school at the start of her educational career.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 09, 2017, 07:47:21 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 08:49:25 AM
There's no actual joint custody in WA, they have you do a "parenting plan" that the court signs off on and even though you are both legally custodial parents the state designates one parent as the primary and one as the secondary. She'll be the primary by default and the primary can legally move out of state with the child with virtually no legal recourse for me. I will not have that same right. Oregon is MUCH more equitable in such matters.

So from what I know, terms like sole or joint custody don't really mean much, legally. In a lot of states, custody is determined during the divorce proceedings if custody is contested. Generally, before the court decides anything, the parents sit down in a mediation (which costs roughly 100-200/hr, can last 4+ hrs) and hash out a plan. I don't know the laws of Washington, but I really really highly highly highly doubt the state designates one parent as the primary and the other as a secondary. Judge's have to determine the "best interests of the child", and while that differs from state to state, it rarely results in one parent becoming the sole parent except in extraordinary circumstances.
Generally, time is split as equally as possible between the parents because judges generally think its in the best interest of the child to have a close relationship with both parents. From what I know, the majority of states (and none that I know of) allow one parent to just take the child and just move around wherever. There has to be at least notification and discussion and potentially a legal dispute before radical changes like that are allowed to take place.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 09, 2017, 07:50:52 PM
[Edit]
I just checked the Washington statutes (THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE) and they don't say anything about primary or secondary parents. The sole determiner is the "best interest of the child", which likely means you'll devise a joint parenting plan with the mother where both of you will feel a little shitty afterward but not totally defeated. Don't freak out man, it's not the 80's anymore where the mother just takes the kid and you get screwed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 08:52:00 PM
I'll try not to bristle at the implication that I didn't already look into this. My information came from a practitioner of family law, but thanks for your input. The joint parenting plan still carries a designation of primary residential parent and secondary residential parent and even though both are considered legal custodial parents there are some important differences. I've been advised that I should not completely discount the "nuclear option", which would be to rent a room in Oregon for a month, take her there, and preemptively file in Oregon. I'm not inclined to do it, but the fact that an attorney familiar with case law in both states seems to think it's a reasonable option is telling.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 09, 2017, 09:12:10 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to condescend, it's just I study these types of issues, albeit in a different state, and I know they can be strange.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on February 09, 2017, 10:59:34 PM
It's cool that you've been able to talk with a lawyer about this stuff. I've had to suck it up and not see my children very often because I haven't been able to afford one.

Instead I've been channeling my rage into learning software engineering and web technologies. Within a few years I'm going to have full custody of both kids and their mothers are going to suddenly know how I've felt for years.

I'm going to continue to try the diplomatic route so there will be a long email trail of evidence when I finally can afford to bring the motherfuckin ruckus. Best of luck man. I really hope things work out better for you than they did for me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on February 09, 2017, 11:38:08 PM
That's fucking brutal ECH, I'm really sorry to hear it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2017, 11:58:50 PM
Sorry to hear things are going badly, ECH.   :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 10, 2017, 03:35:35 PM
I had my first set of blood tests that you start getting as you hit your 30s.
Turns out I am prediabetic and have very low HDL. Mean while, my wife, both whom parents are diabetic, and who drinks way more refined sugar than me, is fucking fine.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 10, 2017, 04:09:01 PM
Women are made of much sterner stuff than we are.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 10, 2017, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: N E T on February 09, 2017, 10:59:34 PM
It's cool that you've been able to talk with a lawyer about this stuff. I've had to suck it up and not see my children very often because I haven't been able to afford one.

Instead I've been channeling my rage into learning software engineering and web technologies. Within a few years I'm going to have full custody of both kids and their mothers are going to suddenly know how I've felt for years.

I'm going to continue to try the diplomatic route so there will be a long email trail of evidence when I finally can afford to bring the motherfuckin ruckus. Best of luck man. I really hope things work out better for you than they did for me.

I'm fortunate to have a friend in the field, but he's not in my immediate area so the advice is free but that's all I get. I'll have to find a local shyster and pony up some scrill if it comes to that.

Sucks you got boned. Good on you for staying reasonable and taking the care to compile a paper trail.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2017, 04:23:09 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 07:17:49 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 09, 2017, 04:39:19 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 08:49:25 AM
Dpends on your definition of "ultimately", I guess. Some day we'll all be stardust again, so yes.

But in the short term, maybe not so much. I fear I may soon need a custody lawyer, and if you're a father in WA that's not a good spot to be in, legally speaking.

Oh, no. :( I thought WA was a coparenting state like Oregon is. I'm sorry to hear about that.

There's no actual joint custody in WA, they have you do a "parenting plan" that the court signs off on and even though you are both legally custodial parents the state designates one parent as the primary and one as the secondary. She'll be the primary by default and the primary can legally move out of state with the child with virtually no legal recourse for me. I will not have that same right. Oregon is MUCH more equitable in such matters.

That is incredibly lame.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2017, 04:26:15 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 09, 2017, 07:44:22 PM
Also, if it goes to court the state will sue me for child support by default because baby girl is on state health care. I'm perfectly willing to spend every last penny I have on my child but I don't at all like the idea of being required to just cut a check with no say as to how it's spent. I understand there are plenty of shitheads out there for whom such requirements are necessary for the child's well being. I am not one of them, and though her mom is a great mother, she doesn't always have long-term big picture stuff in focus as well as I do. If the state gets involved they won't, for example, allow some of my child support to be put into an interest-bearing account for the purpose of being maybe able to afford a few years of Montessori school at the start of her educational career.

That's because child support is for day-to-day living expenses, not future savings. If you want your kid to have an educational fund, that's separate.

The thing that's pretty stupid about the idea that the non-custodial parent should have "a say" in where their child support is spent is that it ignores the fact that the custodial parent spends their money on living expenses either way. You get that, right?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 10, 2017, 06:04:15 PM
I do, but the reality is that no matter what I'll be the one spending nearly 100% of the money on the kid's day-to-day living expenses even if she's only with me 3 days of the week. And I've been completely financially supporting her and babymamma since she was born. Got no problem with that. But I shouldn't have to pay for rent and bills of someone who's decided to voluntarily break up a family unit and put themselves in a financially precarious position. If she can't keep a roof over her own head she's always welcome in my home, but I'm more than willing to have full custody of the kid so fuck equating her questionable choices with my child's necessities. Basically, I'm willing to spend every last penny supporting that kid but I'm not trying to have the state tell me to cut a monthly check for babymamma support.

I get why the system is set up the way it is, but there's no reason it can't be flexible enough to recognize the difference between me and some deadbeat shitweasel.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2017, 05:39:51 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 10, 2017, 03:35:35 PM
I had my first set of blood tests that you start getting as you hit your 30s.
Turns out I am prediabetic and have very low HDL. Mean while, my wife, both whom parents are diabetic, and who drinks way more refined sugar than me, is fucking fine.

On the plus side, I've lost 16 pounds since January 14th, just by following the rules.

The rules being "stuff that you do to keep from having to go full potato and inject insulin."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2017, 02:57:54 PM
No matter what people's principles are when they come to other people, everybody makes exceptions for themselves. Everybody believes that they are, and deserve to be, treated like the exception.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 11, 2017, 05:47:59 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2017, 02:57:54 PM
No matter what people's principles are when they come to other people, everybody makes exceptions for themselves. Everybody believes that they are, and deserve to be, treated like the exception.

I assume that's directed at me, I think I may not have made myself understood very well. I don't view myself as any sort of exception, I view WA's way of dealing with this stuff in the legal system as antiquated and inflexible. I'd be going for full custody if I were in a state where I had a fighting chance at it, and not out of spite or butthurt but because I really just want what's best for my child and think I am currently in a better situation to provide that for her financially and emotionally.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 11, 2017, 05:59:39 PM
In related news, it turns out that somebody here has either been forwarding things I have written here to my child's mother or has been linking her to pages with my content.

:lulz:

Somebody is gonna get to see what "full potato" looks like.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 11, 2017, 06:04:52 PM
What in the fuck is WRONG with the whichever one of you pieces of shit did that, keeps doing it? Did your parents not show you enough love? Are you so god damned butthurt that WE didn't show enough love that you resort to cowardly attacks like that?

Listen asshole, your tiny mind will never do you any amount of good and you may as well kill yourself now. Do yourself and everyone you know a favor and jump off a bridge, you fucking loser.

ECH: I am really sorry. I can't say I know exactly how you feel, but I definitely know what it's like to have a child taken away by someone who could hardly be responsible, was in fact a raging drunk. If you ever need or want to vent, I am here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 11, 2017, 06:19:24 PM
Nah, at least my kid's mom is a great mom. But I feel like if she's gonna put herself in a position where she has to do school full time and work to pay bills that I'm better equipped to do most of the childcare right now. Also the part where I want things to remain amicable and for us both to be involved in the kid's life daily or almost-daily and I'm TERRIFIED that she's planning to move out of state when the school year is over.

As for the mole, well, if I can't follow the trail of crumbs I'll just nuke my shit from orbit and never log in again. Too little, too late, since it's apparently already cost me my family and my child a stable loving 2 parent home. So I hope you feel really good about yourself, whoever you are.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 11, 2017, 06:23:37 PM
And yeah, I get that ultimately I am responsible for the consequences of my own actions. Thing is, the "actions" this is presumably a consequence of never actually happened in real life the way they did in the narrated version. That was the one thing I took artistic license with because when I wrote it the real way it seemed like a chunk of moralistic dissonance in an otherwise perfectly noir-ish real-life story.

Joke's on me and I can't stop laughing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on February 11, 2017, 07:03:16 PM
Didn't someone also send some of Roger's stuff to his former boss?

I'd hate to think we should all start scrubbing our posts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 11, 2017, 07:40:36 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on February 11, 2017, 07:03:16 PM
Didn't someone also send some of Roger's stuff to his former boss?

I'd hate to think we should all start scrubbing our posts.

I'm assuming it's the same person. There can't be 2 separate people that butthurt and awful.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 11, 2017, 11:56:18 PM
Holy shit, ECH. D:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 12, 2017, 12:01:31 AM
It does occur to me re:leaks, this part of the forum isn't locked off at all from guests, and we've been mentioning LS and his minions a *lot* lately.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 12, 2017, 12:15:46 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 11, 2017, 05:59:39 PM
In related news, it turns out that somebody here has either been forwarding things I have written here to my child's mother or has been linking her to pages with my content.

:lulz:

Somebody is gonna get to see what "full potato" looks like.

Well, you know you have my full sympathy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 12, 2017, 02:32:16 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2017, 05:39:51 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 10, 2017, 03:35:35 PM
I had my first set of blood tests that you start getting as you hit your 30s.
Turns out I am prediabetic and have very low HDL. Mean while, my wife, both whom parents are diabetic, and who drinks way more refined sugar than me, is fucking fine.

On the plus side, I've lost 16 pounds since January 14th, just by following the rules.

The rules being "stuff that you do to keep from having to go full potato and inject insulin."

Yeah, I guess eating so I don't full potato myself will help me stop being the fat piece of shit I became post-Army and post-surgery.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 12, 2017, 07:30:36 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 12, 2017, 02:32:16 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2017, 05:39:51 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 10, 2017, 03:35:35 PM
I had my first set of blood tests that you start getting as you hit your 30s.
Turns out I am prediabetic and have very low HDL. Mean while, my wife, both whom parents are diabetic, and who drinks way more refined sugar than me, is fucking fine.

On the plus side, I've lost 16 pounds since January 14th, just by following the rules.

The rules being "stuff that you do to keep from having to go full potato and inject insulin."

Yeah, I guess eating so I don't full potato myself will help me stop being the fat piece of shit I became post-Army and post-surgery.

Wouldn't hurt to pick up a test kit & strips, and use twice-daily measurements to adjust your diet to that of a type II diabetic.  It certainly can't hurt you.  Track it on Excel until you maintain blood sugar levels of 100-120 on the regular.

This means, of course, that beer & junk food are no longer an option.

http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/checking-your-blood-glucose.html
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 12, 2017, 06:57:31 PM
I recommend scotch and loathing.  Light on the scotch, heavy on the loathing.

In other news, currently talking with a law firm about a possible consultancy position.  Nothing is guaranteed yet, but they followed me on Twitter out of the blue, and responded quickly to my speculative inquiry.  It probably wouldn't be enough to get out of here, but it would bolster the CV and profile, which never hurts.  And money, of course.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 12, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
Good luck, Cain! :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2017, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 12, 2017, 06:57:31 PM
I recommend scotch and loathing.  Light on the scotch, heavy on the loathing.

In other news, currently talking with a law firm about a possible consultancy position.  Nothing is guaranteed yet, but they followed me on Twitter out of the blue, and responded quickly to my speculative inquiry.  It probably wouldn't be enough to get out of here, but it would bolster the CV and profile, which never hurts.  And money, of course.

That would be fucking RAD.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2017, 11:20:29 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 11, 2017, 05:47:59 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2017, 02:57:54 PM
No matter what people's principles are when they come to other people, everybody makes exceptions for themselves. Everybody believes that they are, and deserve to be, treated like the exception.

I assume that's directed at me, I think I may not have made myself understood very well. I don't view myself as any sort of exception, I view WA's way of dealing with this stuff in the legal system as antiquated and inflexible. I'd be going for full custody if I were in a state where I had a fighting chance at it, and not out of spite or butthurt but because I really just want what's best for my child and think I am currently in a better situation to provide that for her financially and emotionally.

Unless her mother is actually abusive or dangerously incompetent, pretty much what all research has found is that what is best for your kid is some variety of shared custody with both parents making decisions cooperatively. Your best bet is doing everything in your power to make that happen. Your emotions are strong right now because of the circumstances, but hopefully once the pain of breaking up has cooled a bit, you will both be able to act rationally and cooperatively to develop a parenting plan that gives both of you both ample responsibility, and ample respite.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 12, 2017, 11:24:08 PM
When li'l Salty's mom and I split up it really became easier in a lot of ways, the respire part most especially. I slept a lot more, that's for sure.

It's kind of funny because two people together are supposed to make things easier, many hands, light loads. But for some reason the opposite happens and neither party gets any rest.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2017, 11:32:27 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 11, 2017, 05:59:39 PM
In related news, it turns out that somebody here has either been forwarding things I have written here to my child's mother or has been linking her to pages with my content.

:lulz:

Somebody is gonna get to see what "full potato" looks like.

That is super fucked up. Someone did that to me after my ex and I split, and it made things monumentally worse because he assumed that my venting meant that I was going to be combative, so he became combative. It was a shitfest all the way around, and I lost a friend on top of it because of her fucked-up, bullshit belief that my ex "deserved" to know what I was saying.

It's not fucking OK. Ever. It's like those fucking asswipes in the Discordian Facebook group; nasty powerless little shitstains who long to be relevant so hard that they actually try to get people fired over Facebook arguments.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2017, 11:34:50 PM
Quote from: Salty on February 11, 2017, 06:04:52 PM
What in the fuck is WRONG with the whichever one of you pieces of shit did that, keeps doing it? Did your parents not show you enough love? Are you so god damned butthurt that WE didn't show enough love that you resort to cowardly attacks like that?

Listen asshole, your tiny mind will never do you any amount of good and you may as well kill yourself now. Do yourself and everyone you know a favor and jump off a bridge, you fucking loser.


ECH: I am really sorry. I can't say I know exactly how you feel, but I definitely know what it's like to have a child taken away by someone who could hardly be responsible, was in fact a raging drunk. If you ever need or want to vent, I am here.

If you recall, someone here was carrying tales when you first moved here, with that whole bullshit lying lie about a long-distance affair. So, yeah, basically, what you just said.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 12, 2017, 11:35:42 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2017, 11:34:50 PM
Quote from: Salty on February 11, 2017, 06:04:52 PM
What in the fuck is WRONG with the whichever one of you pieces of shit did that, keeps doing it? Did your parents not show you enough love? Are you so god damned butthurt that WE didn't show enough love that you resort to cowardly attacks like that?

Listen asshole, your tiny mind will never do you any amount of good and you may as well kill yourself now. Do yourself and everyone you know a favor and jump off a bridge, you fucking loser.


ECH: I am really sorry. I can't say I know exactly how you feel, but I definitely know what it's like to have a child taken away by someone who could hardly be responsible, was in fact a raging drunk. If you ever need or want to vent, I am here.

If you recall, someone here was carrying tales when you first moved here, with that whole bullshit lying lie about a long-distance affair. So, yeah, basically, what you just said.

Well, I never did mind the little things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 01:55:33 AM
I just watched that Back in Black special that is about Terry Pratchett. I cried.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 01:56:05 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Hey, man.  How's things?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:07:50 AM
Quote from: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 01:56:05 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Hey, man.  How's things?

Going ok. I'm steadily getting over my panicky freak out from a while back. My personal life has been hard, but nothing by comparison to the shit folks have been getting here. For obvious reasons I'm keeping my personal deets to myself for the forseeable future, which ain't much!

My sympathies to ECH and TGRR particularly.  :evilmad: Fuck snitches!

I've been waiting to see the Pratchett special. Now that I know it's out I'll go looking. When I first heard he'd died I didn't know about the Parkinson's and his decision to... exit with dignity.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Welcome back!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:43:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Welcome back!

Good to be back! I'm here for the lulz and a shot at world domin... I mean peace.

Yeah.

How fare ye Nigel? :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 03:01:19 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:07:50 AM
Quote from: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 01:56:05 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Hey, man.  How's things?

Going ok. I'm steadily getting over my panicky freak out from a while back. My personal life has been hard, but nothing by comparison to the shit folks have been getting here. For obvious reasons I'm keeping my personal deets to myself for the forseeable future, which ain't much!

My sympathies to ECH and TGRR particularly.  :evilmad: Fuck snitches!

I've been waiting to see the Pratchett special. Now that I know it's out I'll go looking. When I first heard he'd died I didn't know about the Parkinson's and his decision to... exit with dignity.

You mean Alzheimer's?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
ECH, I wanted to add that if I ever come across like a jerk because I disagree or contradict you about something, in the matter of child custody and coparenting in particular, I just want you to know that I am 100% in your corner and anything I say regarding this is because I want you and your kid to have the best possible outcome.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:16:36 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:43:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Welcome back!

Good to be back! I'm here for the lulz and a shot at world domin... I mean peace.

Yeah.

How fare ye Nigel? :)

I am hanging in there. My mind is clearer than it's been in a year, and I can tell that a lot of circuits that were sort of hijacked for the grieving process are coming back to normal function. I can made deductive leaps almost like normal, but creativity is still inaccessible for now. We just started the last leg of my graduate experiment, so in roughly 21 days I need to have all my protocols established and be ready to move forward on tissue prep.

I kind of hate graduate school. It's designed for people without families, and, well...

Also contemplating next steps. I had more or less decided not to pursue the MD/PhD, but now I'm back around to it... or maybe just med school, since if I have an MD and an MS I don't necessarily need a PhD, unless I really want to run a lab, which I don't think I do. I just have to figure out when I'll have time to take calculus and the rest of physics.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 03:18:36 AM
Quote from: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 03:01:19 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:07:50 AM
Quote from: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 01:56:05 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Hey, man.  How's things?

Going ok. I'm steadily getting over my panicky freak out from a while back. My personal life has been hard, but nothing by comparison to the shit folks have been getting here. For obvious reasons I'm keeping my personal deets to myself for the forseeable future, which ain't much!

My sympathies to ECH and TGRR particularly.  :evilmad: Fuck snitches!

I've been waiting to see the Pratchett special. Now that I know it's out I'll go looking. When I first heard he'd died I didn't know about the Parkinson's and his decision to... exit with dignity.

You mean Alzheimer's?

Yeah... my mistake. I said the wrong thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:16:36 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:43:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Welcome back!

Good to be back! I'm here for the lulz and a shot at world domin... I mean peace.

Yeah.

How fare ye Nigel? :)

I am hanging in there. My mind is clearer than it's been in a year, and I can tell that a lot of circuits that were sort of hijacked for the grieving process are coming back to normal function. I can made deductive leaps almost like normal, but creativity is still inaccessible for now. We just started the last leg of my graduate experiment, so in roughly 21 days I need to have all my protocols established and be ready to move forward on tissue prep.

I kind of hate graduate school. It's designed for people without families, and, well...

Also contemplating next steps. I had more or less decided not to pursue the MD/PhD, but now I'm back around to it... or maybe just med school, since if I have an MD and an MS I don't necessarily need a PhD, unless I really want to run a lab, which I don't think I do. I just have to figure out when I'll have time to take calculus and the rest of physics.

I'm glad you're feeling at least some recovery! For my part I'm looking for my next real job and getting over a pretty bad depression. I've been walking more and trying to get myself into a healthy lifestyle.

I've been quit of herb for about 2.5 months now and slowly accepting that I was using it as a crutch to deal with emotional problems I'm beginning to work my way through.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 03:25:18 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 03:18:36 AM
Yeah... my mistake. I said the wrong thing.

Ah. Is cool.  Anyway, the special was pretty good. I really enjoyed it, and recommend it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 05:39:00 AM
Quote from: Freeky on February 13, 2017, 03:25:18 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 03:18:36 AM
Yeah... my mistake. I said the wrong thing.

Ah. Is cool.  Anyway, the special was pretty good. I really enjoyed it, and recommend it.

I look forward to it! He and Gaiman both had their works find their way into my life at times that I really needed them. Pratchett got there first when I was a kid, Gaiman much later when I was going through a truly bleak part of my adult life.

When I heard Pratchett had passed I built a little shrine out of photocomments quoting him on a Discordian FB group. I still have the images. His shit was pretty amazing. I recently acquired his unabridged audio books to listen to on walks. His puns are worse than I remember. It's great!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 13, 2017, 06:08:51 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
ECH, I wanted to add that if I ever come across like a jerk because I disagree or contradict you about something, in the matter of child custody and coparenting in particular, I just want you to know that I am 100% in your corner and anything I say regarding this is because I want you and your kid to have the best possible outcome.

No worries, I understand that I am not in an objective head space about this shit right now and I actually really appreciate you being a voice of reason especially since you have experience with this shit. So thank you!

I just worry that it's easy to cross the line from venting about a shitty situation to sounding like some goddamn MRA asshole and I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't even remotely veering into that territory. I'll support that child above and beyond what's just necessary whether a court tells me to or not, but I'm a primate and I prefer the illusion of control y'know?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on February 13, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
So Jewcat's
DNA Results came back in.
She's pure white. So anyone from her parent's side has no trace of Native American,Black, or Jew in them. Jewcat is the first to be tainted by such inferior DNA.(if you know what I mean, and I think you do) These tests go back 30 generations which is about 540 yrs to 600 yrs.

Results are
71% Belgium/German
16% Irish
5% British
4% Nordic: Finnish/Norway/Danish
3% Russian
1% French

Because the evil jews controlling the media lied to us. We now need a new nick name for Jewcat.

So far I've got the cat formerly known as Jew.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 13, 2017, 06:08:51 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
ECH, I wanted to add that if I ever come across like a jerk because I disagree or contradict you about something, in the matter of child custody and coparenting in particular, I just want you to know that I am 100% in your corner and anything I say regarding this is because I want you and your kid to have the best possible outcome.

No worries, I understand that I am not in an objective head space about this shit right now and I actually really appreciate you being a voice of reason especially since you have experience with this shit. So thank you!

I just worry that it's easy to cross the line from venting about a shitty situation to sounding like some goddamn MRA asshole and I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't even remotely veering into that territory. I'll support that child above and beyond what's just necessary whether a court tells me to or not, but I'm a primate and I prefer the illusion of control y'know?

Honestly, I think that the loss of control is one of the biggest shocks of splitting up when there are kids involved. You lose the future you had planned, and along with that the sense of being able to control what kind of life and experiences your kid is going to have.

This might not be any kind of an option for you, but if there is a way you could convince the baby momma to hang in there, bear with you, and go to counseling together, I recommend it. Maybe you fucked up. Maybe she fucked up. The first year three years of parenthood are brutally stressful, and if you can get through them together, then you will know whether you want to stick it out longer, but at least by then there's preschool.

If not, just focus on whatever stability and control you can provide over your own situation. For me, that was all about living in the same neighborhood near the same school for their entire childhood. For you, that might look really different. Either way, if you can establish a regular parenting schedule and stick to a routine, it will make the transition easier and less uncontrolled-feeling.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 05:08:28 PM
And if you start sounding like an MRA asshole, I WILL give you a heads-up on that.  :p
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:16:36 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:43:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Welcome back!

Good to be back! I'm here for the lulz and a shot at world domin... I mean peace.

Yeah.

How fare ye Nigel? :)

I am hanging in there. My mind is clearer than it's been in a year, and I can tell that a lot of circuits that were sort of hijacked for the grieving process are coming back to normal function. I can made deductive leaps almost like normal, but creativity is still inaccessible for now. We just started the last leg of my graduate experiment, so in roughly 21 days I need to have all my protocols established and be ready to move forward on tissue prep.

I kind of hate graduate school. It's designed for people without families, and, well...

Also contemplating next steps. I had more or less decided not to pursue the MD/PhD, but now I'm back around to it... or maybe just med school, since if I have an MD and an MS I don't necessarily need a PhD, unless I really want to run a lab, which I don't think I do. I just have to figure out when I'll have time to take calculus and the rest of physics.

I'm glad you're feeling at least some recovery! For my part I'm looking for my next real job and getting over a pretty bad depression. I've been walking more and trying to get myself into a healthy lifestyle.

I've been quit of herb for about 2.5 months now and slowly accepting that I was using it as a crutch to deal with emotional problems I'm beginning to work my way through.

Quitting weed sounds like a really good idea for you. For some people, in some situations, it's very helpful, but for others it can just turn into its own mindfuck.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 05:15:00 PM
Quote from: Scott The Cuck on February 13, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
So Jewcat's
DNA Results came back in.
She's pure white. So anyone from her parent's side has no trace of Native American,Black, or Jew in them. Jewcat is the first to be tainted by such inferior DNA.(if you know what I mean, and I think you do) These tests go back 30 generations which is about 540 yrs to 600 yrs.

Results are
71% Belgium/German
16% Irish
5% British
4% Nordic: Finnish/Norway/Danish
3% Russian
1% French

Because the evil jews controlling the media lied to us. We now need a new nick name for Jewcat.

So far I've got the cat formerly known as Jew.

:lulz: I totally want to do 23 and me. After my mom and sister did it, and found out that not only is everything we've been told about my mom's family a lie, but also that they are spectacularly inbred Orkadians, I'd be very curious to know how much of my heritage on my dad's side is also a lie. And, what unknown weirdness might it be hiding?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 13, 2017, 05:20:28 PM
I'm afraid if I do a 23andMe test, the results will come with a shiny gold plaque that reads "Official White Privilege Verification".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on February 13, 2017, 05:22:56 PM
Rainbow Platted though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:16:36 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:43:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Welcome back!

Good to be back! I'm here for the lulz and a shot at world domin... I mean peace.

Yeah.

How fare ye Nigel? :)

I am hanging in there. My mind is clearer than it's been in a year, and I can tell that a lot of circuits that were sort of hijacked for the grieving process are coming back to normal function. I can made deductive leaps almost like normal, but creativity is still inaccessible for now. We just started the last leg of my graduate experiment, so in roughly 21 days I need to have all my protocols established and be ready to move forward on tissue prep.

I kind of hate graduate school. It's designed for people without families, and, well...

Also contemplating next steps. I had more or less decided not to pursue the MD/PhD, but now I'm back around to it... or maybe just med school, since if I have an MD and an MS I don't necessarily need a PhD, unless I really want to run a lab, which I don't think I do. I just have to figure out when I'll have time to take calculus and the rest of physics.

I'm glad you're feeling at least some recovery! For my part I'm looking for my next real job and getting over a pretty bad depression. I've been walking more and trying to get myself into a healthy lifestyle.

I've been quit of herb for about 2.5 months now and slowly accepting that I was using it as a crutch to deal with emotional problems I'm beginning to work my way through.

Quitting weed sounds like a really good idea for you. For some people, in some situations, it's very helpful, but for others it can just turn into its own mindfuck.

Yeah. I love the stuff and tend to favor it as an intoxicant anyway because I don't drink much due to a history of alcoholism on my mom's side and not particularly liking the effects in excess. Right now it's not the right thing to be doing. It's a TERRIBLE thing to make a priority in my life, and it had become exactly that.

Considering how things currently are in the world I have no business being stoned all the time anyway. There's shit to do and weed is a liability.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 13, 2017, 06:16:19 PM
Quote from: Scott The Cuck on February 13, 2017, 04:49:52 PM
So Jewcat's
DNA Results came back in.
She's pure white. So anyone from her parent's side has no trace of Native American,Black, or Jew in them. Jewcat is the first to be tainted by such inferior DNA.(if you know what I mean, and I think you do) These tests go back 30 generations which is about 540 yrs to 600 yrs.

Results are
71% Belgium/German
16% Irish
5% British
4% Nordic: Finnish/Norway/Danish
3% Russian
1% French

Because the evil jews controlling the media lied to us. We now need a new nick name for Jewcat.

So far I've got the cat formerly known as Jew.

CaucCat
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on February 13, 2017, 06:18:20 PM
White Devil, White Devil.

Its not ok to only pronounce it only once.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 13, 2017, 06:20:58 PM
What about Dikecat?

Belgium is full of dikes, ergo....

Also, confusing!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 13, 2017, 06:22:03 PM
In the same vein, Wafflecat.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on February 13, 2017, 06:29:26 PM
One of my teammates got into an argument with one of the Security teams in the company I support. The argument was over whether or not they were doing their jobs, and over something they suspected was a minor vulnerability. I decided to point out the full extent of the back door, and test its limits. It turns out, it has none whatsoever.

The company uses an application that blocks scripts universally that aren't company approved. There are options within this security application (Which is managed by the team my teammate was in an argument with) to whitelist applications based on hashes generated based on raw App data, the directory the application is in, or based on the name of the file.

Well, they had a rule that allowed ALL applications to be run as long as the file was in a folder of a specific name. The fucked up part was, they didn't specify a path, only a folder name. That means ANYONE can make a folder with this specific name (This means all basic users too) and run any script they want. This folder can be created on the Desktop, or in any other directory.

When I showed this to my Teammate, he decided to get into a pissing contest with this security team over it. Shortly after, the security team invented a type of access and process to cover up this back door. They immediately added my teammates to a security group that would give them basic access to bypass their system, and claimed that this was the only reason our little exploit worked, stating that we all had that access the whole time. Shortly after that, the head of the security department of the company decided to email us all about some "changes" that were going to be made to their folder name whitelisting rule.

The disturbing part is, someone is likely profiting quite a bit from this back door, as the company is a Financial Firm. Either that, or they just don't wanna make themselves look bad. But because of the level of people involved in the cover-up, it's quite clear that any persistence into the matter will likely lead to our company being fired and us losing the account. I would still keep my job, because I've had a chance to demonstrate my usefulness, but there are plenty of new people that have not gotten that chance yet, so it would be selfish to push it any further. But it's definitely leading me to question some aspects of my morality. I can't risk other peoples' well-beings, but I also can't just let them get away with this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 06:39:02 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 13, 2017, 05:20:28 PM
I'm afraid if I do a 23andMe test, the results will come with a shiny gold plaque that reads "Official White Privilege Verification".

All you need is a mirror for that!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 13, 2017, 06:49:54 PM
 :snob:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 13, 2017, 08:59:49 PM
One of the weather wires is being f'd with, slight paranoia about that service being messed with by the current administration. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 13, 2017, 09:16:36 PM
Woo it's back!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 13, 2017, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:16:36 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:43:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Welcome back!

Good to be back! I'm here for the lulz and a shot at world domin... I mean peace.

Yeah.

How fare ye Nigel? :)

I am hanging in there. My mind is clearer than it's been in a year, and I can tell that a lot of circuits that were sort of hijacked for the grieving process are coming back to normal function. I can made deductive leaps almost like normal, but creativity is still inaccessible for now. We just started the last leg of my graduate experiment, so in roughly 21 days I need to have all my protocols established and be ready to move forward on tissue prep.

I kind of hate graduate school. It's designed for people without families, and, well...

Also contemplating next steps. I had more or less decided not to pursue the MD/PhD, but now I'm back around to it... or maybe just med school, since if I have an MD and an MS I don't necessarily need a PhD, unless I really want to run a lab, which I don't think I do. I just have to figure out when I'll have time to take calculus and the rest of physics.

I'm glad you're feeling at least some recovery! For my part I'm looking for my next real job and getting over a pretty bad depression. I've been walking more and trying to get myself into a healthy lifestyle.

I've been quit of herb for about 2.5 months now and slowly accepting that I was using it as a crutch to deal with emotional problems I'm beginning to work my way through.

Any good with Windows OSes and talking to smartest-guy-in-the-room types over the phone?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 13, 2017, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 13, 2017, 09:16:36 PM
Woo it's back!

But is it... compromised?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 13, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 13, 2017, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 13, 2017, 09:16:36 PM
Woo it's back!

But is it... compromised?

Hmm wondering how that'd work...




Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 11:37:17 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 13, 2017, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 03:23:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 03:16:36 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 02:43:50 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 13, 2017, 01:38:32 AM
Hey guys! I'm back in.

Seems like I never left.

Welcome back!

Good to be back! I'm here for the lulz and a shot at world domin... I mean peace.

Yeah.

How fare ye Nigel? :)

I am hanging in there. My mind is clearer than it's been in a year, and I can tell that a lot of circuits that were sort of hijacked for the grieving process are coming back to normal function. I can made deductive leaps almost like normal, but creativity is still inaccessible for now. We just started the last leg of my graduate experiment, so in roughly 21 days I need to have all my protocols established and be ready to move forward on tissue prep.

I kind of hate graduate school. It's designed for people without families, and, well...

Also contemplating next steps. I had more or less decided not to pursue the MD/PhD, but now I'm back around to it... or maybe just med school, since if I have an MD and an MS I don't necessarily need a PhD, unless I really want to run a lab, which I don't think I do. I just have to figure out when I'll have time to take calculus and the rest of physics.

I'm glad you're feeling at least some recovery! For my part I'm looking for my next real job and getting over a pretty bad depression. I've been walking more and trying to get myself into a healthy lifestyle.

I've been quit of herb for about 2.5 months now and slowly accepting that I was using it as a crutch to deal with emotional problems I'm beginning to work my way through.

Any good with Windows OSes and talking to smartest-guy-in-the-room types over the phone?

I can phone-schmmoze rather well indeed. My actual technical expertise is very limited, but I can operate a Windows PC. I'd just as soon do something much more physical though. If I were to take up a sit-down job I'd probably prefer to get back into electronic assembly/repair. Circuit boards don't generally get huffy. I appreciate the thought, thanks!

I'm in the process of looking for work in the LaX area again. Now that I'm clean there's several placement agencies out there that I can work through until I find something that I like. Some of my friends are willing to put me up short-term and my car is registered out there anyway. I was hoping for a job here on the East side of the state electrical wiring assembly for about $16/hr starting but the employment agency's rep has not followed though on several things and I suspect that they're dicking around.

I'm not sure exactly where I'm going to wind up, but I'd prefer LaX so I can take courses at a dojo out there a friend of mine teaches at. I'm hoping that I can teach myself better habits by training my body.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2017, 05:31:28 AM
Punching through wooden planks is the true aim of any martial arts.  Better habits is just a positive side effect.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 14, 2017, 05:56:17 AM
We on The Night Crew would like to extend our sincerest apologies to everyone involved in The Incident.

(https://scontent.fsnc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p160x160/16684387_1356666704384982_3339978206718913906_n.jpg?oh=e8df8a63f048951d7241d037e4f0b489&oe=5935C4CC)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 14, 2017, 09:05:27 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?

:cry:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 14, 2017, 09:48:25 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?

:cry: Take care ECH. See you around some day hopefully.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 14, 2017, 12:53:35 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?

Good luck with the coming hassle, and don't be a stranger unless you want.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 14, 2017, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?

:sad: I hope that your fortune turns again.

Quote from: Cain on February 14, 2017, 05:31:28 AM
Punching through wooden planks is the true aim of any martial arts.  Better habits is just a positive side effect.

Suddenly rather motivated to get on that, but I'm looking at learning something more like systema, wherein you learn to splatter a liver all over the inside of a torso.

After I get my body into much better condition I want to enter fight competitions.
I'm nearly 35. If I dedicate now by the time I'm 38 I could start a fighting career. I'm in need of a controlled outlet and a measurable goal in life. Academia isn't my thing, so I'm going for a business education, athletics, and artistic performance. It's something to Do anyway.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 14, 2017, 01:48:51 PM
I forgot to mention I think the beard looks awesome Roger!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 14, 2017, 02:33:59 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?

Good luck that man. I hope everything works out better than you want it to and faster than it should.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 14, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?

That sucks, and I'm sad to see you leave here. Hang in there, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 14, 2017, 02:46:21 PM
ECH, all of the above.  If you need anything, you've got other ways to get ahold of me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: trix on February 14, 2017, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?

Damn, man.  You're one of my favorite posters on this forum :(

I hope whoever did that shit gets a 2-liter inserted anally.

Maybe the Open Bar thread should be moved to a users-only area?  Not sure if that would prevent anything though as it could just as easily be a butthurt member or a poptard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 14, 2017, 07:49:12 PM
Quote from: trix on February 14, 2017, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 14, 2017, 08:30:35 AM
You'd think this shit would stop surprising me eventually, but once again something I loved so dearly has become something that just reminds me of my biggest failure.

So. Peace out, PD. It's been a wild ride these last 13 years. We had some times, huh?

Damn, man.  You're one of my favorite posters on this forum :(

I hope whoever did that shit gets a 2-liter inserted anally.

Maybe the Open Bar thread should be moved to a users-only area?  Not sure if that would prevent anything though as it could just as easily be a butthurt member or a poptard.

It's probably wise to recall that Open Bar is essentially open to the public, and not post anything here that is truly sensitive in the "if the wrong person saw this it could damage my life" way. 

At the same time, whoever sent ECH's gf links to here is a special kind of shitweasel, because it has to be someone who knows who he is here as well as knowing his real name, probably through Facebook, and has been masquerading as his friend. That is a particularly vile form of maggot, and while I know vile people lurk here, I sincerely hope that this particular piece of bum puke dies a slow, lonely and painful death. Backstabbers are below leeches in the tree of life, and anyone who would deliberately instigate drama and disruption IN A BABY'S HOME just out of petty malice is less than the shit I scrape from my boot after a walk in the park.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 14, 2017, 09:09:07 PM
Some of you may remember my German cousin O. How he stole jewelry from his mother to waste on bullshit and then ask for more money.

Things really haven't changed except my younger cousin, S, is exactly the same kind of garbage.

The two brothers live together. S. still has no job and is done with school. His record is fucked because O. ratted him out to the police re:weed. Germans don't take too kindly to weed. Now S's career option (pilot, police officer, something like that) is POOF GONE.

So, S is still getting Gov Kindergeld. His mother is using it on payments for S's brand new car! S can't pay his bills, asked for money, she said no, he threatens to sue her.

HA ha ha. Now, to be fair, she is enabling him. to be more fair, S and O are piles of human garbage. And if you're lurking and sharing info, FEEL FREE TO TELL THEM THAT IF YOU CAN.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ziegejunge on February 14, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
Aloha, ECH. I'm sorry to see you go, and especially under the circumstances in question.

I sincerely hope we'll see you again someday.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 15, 2017, 12:23:36 PM
Goddamn, sorry to see you go, ECH.  You know how to keep in touch with me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 15, 2017, 02:47:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 12, 2017, 06:57:31 PM
I recommend scotch and loathing.  Light on the scotch, heavy on the loathing.

In other news, currently talking with a law firm about a possible consultancy position.  Nothing is guaranteed yet, but they followed me on Twitter out of the blue, and responded quickly to my speculative inquiry.  It probably wouldn't be enough to get out of here, but it would bolster the CV and profile, which never hurts.  And money, of course.

Looks like I'm consulting.  Just got to negotiate renumeration, but so far the terms look good.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 15, 2017, 02:58:24 PM
Awesome!  So, do you get to tell everyone at your current job to fuck off?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 15, 2017, 03:08:28 PM
Probably not, unfortunately.  I mean, I'll wait until we discuss renumeration but this is a part-time gig.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 15, 2017, 03:12:08 PM
It's a step! Glad to hear it Cain. Perhaps you could engage your co-workers in telling each other to fuck off. It's just as good and you can keep the job.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 15, 2017, 04:00:34 PM
Oh. I frequently tell them to fuck off in bureaucratese.  Besides, there's already a surplus of backstabbing in this place.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 15, 2017, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 15, 2017, 04:00:34 PM
Oh. I frequently tell them to fuck off in bureaucratese.  Besides, there's already a surplus of backstabbing in this place.

Could you lead a Monty Python style coup?

HOLY FUCK I'm glad I went looking for a clip! This is fuckin' amazing and you can dance to it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrShn8PeTz8 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrShn8PeTz8)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 15, 2017, 06:53:01 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 15, 2017, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 15, 2017, 04:00:34 PM
Oh. I frequently tell them to fuck off in bureaucratese.  Besides, there's already a surplus of backstabbing in this place.

Could you lead a Monty Python style coup?

HOLY FUCK I'm glad I went looking for a clip! This is fuckin' amazing and you can dance to it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrShn8PeTz8 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrShn8PeTz8)

:O This is fantastic!

Also congrats, Cain!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 15, 2017, 07:34:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 15, 2017, 02:47:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 12, 2017, 06:57:31 PM
I recommend scotch and loathing.  Light on the scotch, heavy on the loathing.

In other news, currently talking with a law firm about a possible consultancy position.  Nothing is guaranteed yet, but they followed me on Twitter out of the blue, and responded quickly to my speculative inquiry.  It probably wouldn't be enough to get out of here, but it would bolster the CV and profile, which never hurts.  And money, of course.

Looks like I'm consulting.  Just got to negotiate renumeration, but so far the terms look good.

That is damn awesome!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 16, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Annoyed that medievalpoc gets paid for their blog, but I guess I support it if they're getting classes to accurately identify a tudor painting.

I like the blog idea, just didn't like the blog person.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 16, 2017, 04:47:32 PM
Make Sepsis Sexy Again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 16, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.

Um, talking about sepsis during lunch? 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 16, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Annoyed that medievalpoc gets paid for their blog, but I guess I support it if they're getting classes to accurately identify a tudor painting.

I like the blog idea, just didn't like the blog person.

Why and also why?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 16, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 16, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Annoyed that medievalpoc gets paid for their blog, but I guess I support it if they're getting classes to accurately identify a tudor painting.

I like the blog idea, just didn't like the blog person.

Why and also why?

The blog is about art history and depictions of people of color, which is a neat thing to learn about.  I didn't like her because tumblr drama and general inaccuracies about the paintings she posted and the shut downs of people pointing out she was wrong. Things like the definition of medieval and saying things were from England when they're from France. 

Old drama involved her and an account called racismschool doxxing chaotically-neutral, just stupid crap.  There was a thread here about about tumblr a while back that followed that thing.

She's getting money to be an authority on something she's wrong on plus the general being a jerk, that was my annoyance.  I can be less annoyed over old drama and inaccuracies if she's accurate now.

I mean the topic is interesting and it's good to be covered, I just want it to be accurate.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 16, 2017, 05:56:07 PM
Apparently, she also outright fabricates things.  As an example, she photoshopped something to make King David darker and said he was black instead of Jewish.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 16, 2017, 07:11:18 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 16, 2017, 05:56:07 PM
Apparently, she also outright fabricates things.  As an example, she photoshopped something to make King David darker and said he was black instead of Jewish.

Ah I remember something similar about her arguing about the whiteness of Jewish people, which is actually interesting because that involves a location, a time period, and who you are talking to.  Instead it was two camps with one arguing yes and the other arguing no.  Maybe it was the same item, can't recall. 

I know the results of people posting when she's wrong or screenshotting nasty comments from her was her claiming to be oppressed and they want the blog silenced.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 16, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
That was a different thing, I believe. I only heard of her yesterday, but it was a great long thread of a bunch of people saying shit she'd done.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 16, 2017, 08:27:25 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 16, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
Annoyed that medievalpoc gets paid for their blog, but I guess I support it if they're getting classes to accurately identify a tudor painting.

I like the blog idea, just didn't like the blog person.

Why and also why?

The blog is about art history and depictions of people of color, which is a neat thing to learn about.  I didn't like her because tumblr drama and general inaccuracies about the paintings she posted and the shut downs of people pointing out she was wrong. Things like the definition of medieval and saying things were from England when they're from France. 

Old drama involved her and an account called racismschool doxxing chaotically-neutral, just stupid crap.  There was a thread here about about tumblr a while back that followed that thing.

She's getting money to be an authority on something she's wrong on plus the general being a jerk, that was my annoyance.  I can be less annoyed over old drama and inaccuracies if she's accurate now.

I mean the topic is interesting and it's good to be covered, I just want it to be accurate.

Wrong is the new right.

Or it could just be alternative history.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 16, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
History is written by the victors people with the most subscribers
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 16, 2017, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 16, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
History is written just invented by the victors people with the most subscribers who are batshit insane.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that we're going to see so much more of this shit over the next few years Icke and infowars are going to start looking rational in comparison.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 16, 2017, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 16, 2017, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 16, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
History is written just invented by the victors people with the most subscribers who are batshit insane.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that we're going to see so much more of this shit over the next few years Icke and infowars are going to start looking rational in comparison.


FORGET ABOUT THE FLOURIDE IN THE BABY BLANKETS! IT'S THE DMT LACED VACCINES MADE TO SELL YOU OLD COPIES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT IN YOUR INTRACRANIAL DATAFEED THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO WRITE YOUR CORPORATE SURVIVAL BOARD ABOUT!!!!!

And now a thinkpiece retrocog about the original gay frogs and how we stopped them from out breeding humanity during the Pre-Imperium era.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 16, 2017, 09:44:35 PM
TRUMP TOOK THE DMT
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 16, 2017, 10:15:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 16, 2017, 09:44:35 PM
TRUMP TOOK IS THE DMT

:crackhead: :deadthread:
:dream:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.

Um, talking about sepsis during lunch?

Right before lunch, actually. A whole slideshow and everything!

You would be surprised what biologists can retain their appetites through.  :lol:

Fascinating sepsis research fact: A high-sugar diet prevents sepsis mortality in mice.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 17, 2017, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.

Um, talking about sepsis during lunch?

Right before lunch, actually. A whole slideshow and everything!

You would be surprised what biologists can retain their appetites through.  :lol:

Fascinating sepsis research fact: A high-sugar diet prevents sepsis mortality in mice.

Please tell me it's because it's somehow acting like a preservative.

Mmmm sugared mice
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 17, 2017, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.

Um, talking about sepsis during lunch?

Right before lunch, actually. A whole slideshow and everything!

You would be surprised what biologists can retain their appetites through.  :lol:

Fascinating sepsis research fact: A high-sugar diet prevents sepsis mortality in mice.

Please tell me it's because it's somehow acting like a preservative.

Mmmm sugared mice

It's metabolic, but they haven't put their finger on what, exactly, is happening. It's pretty dramatic, though... as in THE WHOLE TREATMENT GROUP made full recoveries from a disease that killed 55% of the control mice.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 17, 2017, 02:51:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 17, 2017, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.

Um, talking about sepsis during lunch?

Right before lunch, actually. A whole slideshow and everything!

You would be surprised what biologists can retain their appetites through.  :lol:

Fascinating sepsis research fact: A high-sugar diet prevents sepsis mortality in mice.

Please tell me it's because it's somehow acting like a preservative.

Mmmm sugared mice

It's metabolic, but they haven't put their finger on what, exactly, is happening. It's pretty dramatic, though... as in THE WHOLE TREATMENT GROUP made full recoveries from a disease that killed 55% of the control mice.

Whoa
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 17, 2017, 03:55:06 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 17, 2017, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.

Um, talking about sepsis during lunch?

Right before lunch, actually. A whole slideshow and everything!

You would be surprised what biologists can retain their appetites through.  :lol:

Fascinating sepsis research fact: A high-sugar diet prevents sepsis mortality in mice.

Please tell me it's because it's somehow acting like a preservative.

Mmmm sugared mice

It's metabolic, but they haven't put their finger on what, exactly, is happening. It's pretty dramatic, though... as in THE WHOLE TREATMENT GROUP made full recoveries from a disease that killed 55% of the control mice.

Woah, can they test on diabetic mice?  Curious if it's the high sugar in the blood stream or something produced.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 17, 2017, 03:55:06 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 17, 2017, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.

Um, talking about sepsis during lunch?

Right before lunch, actually. A whole slideshow and everything!

You would be surprised what biologists can retain their appetites through.  :lol:

Fascinating sepsis research fact: A high-sugar diet prevents sepsis mortality in mice.

Please tell me it's because it's somehow acting like a preservative.

Mmmm sugared mice

It's metabolic, but they haven't put their finger on what, exactly, is happening. It's pretty dramatic, though... as in THE WHOLE TREATMENT GROUP made full recoveries from a disease that killed 55% of the control mice.

Woah, can they test on diabetic mice?  Curious if it's the high sugar in the blood stream or something produced.

They can and probably will. These are results that the visiting scientist literally just analyzed from her side-project... she essentially just said "Hmmmm I wonder" and ran this small side-study with about 20 mice per group. Since the results were so dramatic, she now has a whole new avenue of study to pursue. At least one PhD will be made on this, I am betting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 03:18:46 PM
See, now I want them to hire her instead of telomerase guy. I'd work in her lab in a heartbeat! Plus she has a neuro background.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 17, 2017, 03:49:55 PM
I'd go into a life science field, but then I'd have to actually remember to write things down and prove stuff.

I just want to test things on other things.

I guess I really want to be a mad scientist.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 17, 2017, 05:06:20 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 17, 2017, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 16, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Another faculty hopeful is doing the presentation-lunch-tour thing today. This one's an expert on sepsis, which is frankly way less sexy than an expert on telomerase, but it should be interesting.

Um, talking about sepsis during lunch?

Right before lunch, actually. A whole slideshow and everything!

You would be surprised what biologists can retain their appetites through.  :lol:

Fascinating sepsis research fact: A high-sugar diet prevents sepsis mortality in mice.

Please tell me it's because it's somehow acting like a preservative.

Mmmm sugared mice

It's metabolic, but they haven't put their finger on what, exactly, is happening. It's pretty dramatic, though... as in THE WHOLE TREATMENT GROUP made full recoveries from a disease that killed 55% of the control mice.

Whoa, cool!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 17, 2017, 05:07:36 PM
I'm going to try to get into volunteering at animal shelters, but most of them want early morning so I need to get my bike fixed. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 17, 2017, 05:18:43 PM
Just had a tender rejected from obvious corruption and collusion. Very pissed off.

If I knew the client was that bent I'd have done better than a paltry 2 grand bribe. For anyone thinking that the UK isn't corrupt as fuck this is just another one to add to the pile I've seen over the years.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: EK WAFFLR on February 17, 2017, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 16, 2017, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 16, 2017, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 16, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
History is written just invented by the victors people with the most subscribers who are batshit insane.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that we're going to see so much more of this shit over the next few years Icke and infowars are going to start looking rational in comparison.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/kennedy-vaccine-denier-challenge?utm_term=.kkM2r537er#.kkM2r537er


FORGET ABOUT THE FLOURIDE IN THE BABY BLANKETS! IT'S THE DMT LACED VACCINES MADE TO SELL YOU OLD COPIES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT IN YOUR INTRACRANIAL DATAFEED THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO WRITE YOUR CORPORATE SURVIVAL BOARD ABOUT!!!!!

And now a thinkpiece retrocog about the original gay frogs and how we stopped them from out breeding humanity during the Pre-Imperium era.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 17, 2017, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: The Half-Seeing Waffle on February 17, 2017, 05:56:16 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 16, 2017, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 16, 2017, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 16, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
History is written just invented by the victors people with the most subscribers who are batshit insane.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that we're going to see so much more of this shit over the next few years Icke and infowars are going to start looking rational in comparison.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghorayshi/kennedy-vaccine-denier-challenge?utm_term=.kkM2r537er#.kkM2r537er


FORGET ABOUT THE FLOURIDE IN THE BABY BLANKETS! IT'S THE DMT LACED VACCINES MADE TO SELL YOU OLD COPIES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT IN YOUR INTRACRANIAL DATAFEED THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO WRITE YOUR CORPORATE SURVIVAL BOARD ABOUT!!!!!

And now a thinkpiece retrocog about the original gay frogs and how we stopped them from out breeding humanity during the Pre-Imperium era.

:horrormirth:

Sweet merciful fuck!

Worst part is I know for a fact that they offer vaccines without preservatives for the paranoids now, and for no other reason. My last flu vaccination for my work at the hospital offered a range of options. See that COSTS more. The hospital can charge more for it, among the other "options". I just took a straight up intramuscular injection, no frills. Now I see why there's otherwise intelligent folks pushing this.

Straight up cash money hustle. So what if a few parents go so crazy their kids get deadly illnesses? There's a fat short-term profit to be made on the more "reasonable" paranoids.

If polio comes back that's going to be YUGE!  :vom:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 18, 2017, 04:31:29 AM
My eldest child is hollering at her friends in the MMPORG she's playing, so loudly that despite being at the other end of the house I can hear it as if there are no walls between us.

Which there aren't, mostly. Because for some reason this bungalow is laid out like a shotgun shack.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on February 19, 2017, 10:56:26 AM
Just a head's up to anyone with connections to ANTIFA.


"Uncle Sam's Misguided Children" is selling t-shirts with their logo on it, along with "pissing Calvin", of course. Because they're THAT clever, and original.

hxxp://shop.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/collections/mens/products/piss-on-antifa-t-shirt?variant=35044162054
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 19, 2017, 01:21:33 PM
So... This is where to get a convincing t-shirt for infiltrating large groups of psychopaths. Good to know.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 19, 2017, 03:31:12 PM
Yesterday my advisor informed me that once classes are over, which is next term, I'll be expected to be in the lab about 50 hours a week. My first emotion was relief. I mean, fuck, just 50 hours? And I don't have to teach over the summer? HELL YEAH.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 19, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
I'm moving and getting myself re-settled back in the LaX area today. I've been advised to get a social worker to help me through the process of getting signed up for school. As i made very little money last year and have ZERO student debt it's very likely that I can get that ball rolling right away. Going to start with Tech school and business courses. From there I may go to a University. It's time that I stop trying to do everything myself and take up the responsibility for my formal education that I've been avoiding since childhood in favor of "doing what I want".

It's not going to be easy, but I'm committed and not going to have to do it alone.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 19, 2017, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 19, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
I'm moving and getting myself re-settled back in the LaX area today. I've been advised to get a social worker to help me through the process of getting signed up for school. As i made very little money last year and have ZERO student debt it's very likely that I can get that ball rolling right away. Going to start with Tech school and business courses. From there I may go to a University. It's time that I stop trying to do everything myself and take up the responsibility for my formal education that I've been avoiding since childhood in favor of "doing what I want".

It's not going to be easy, but I'm committed and not going to have to do it alone.

It's a good plan, and a good start! The benefits of structured higher education are immense, and one of the greatest ones is learning how to be more effective at teaching yourself.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 19, 2017, 07:07:14 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 19, 2017, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 19, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
I'm moving and getting myself re-settled back in the LaX area today. I've been advised to get a social worker to help me through the process of getting signed up for school. As i made very little money last year and have ZERO student debt it's very likely that I can get that ball rolling right away. Going to start with Tech school and business courses. From there I may go to a University. It's time that I stop trying to do everything myself and take up the responsibility for my formal education that I've been avoiding since childhood in favor of "doing what I want".

It's not going to be easy, but I'm committed and not going to have to do it alone.

It's a good plan, and a good start! The benefits of structured higher education are immense, and one of the greatest ones is learning how to be more effective at teaching yourself.

Agreed. Clearly my life long methods and habits have left me... lacking certain basic necessities of cognition. I'm also very focused on getting my physical health into normal range for what is probably the first time since middle school. The two things are part of the same basic problem of not accepting help or formal structure in my life.

I WANT to do good in this world before I leave it. If I sit back just wanting it or try to be effective without being ready on every level I've been neglecting I will at best have no effect, at worst fuck all of the things up.

Eventually I think I'll open a thread here as a sort of progress journal and help line. We'll see what's up after I do some running around tomorrow. I intend to hit the Dept of workforce development and after that walk into the local tech school and see about getting in contact with a councilor to get me started.

Then job hunting depending on the above outcomes. It's my understanding that sometimes schools will actually provide part time employment to dedicated starting students. My existing skill set could qualify me to do quite a bit for them, maybe even tutor on electronic assembly or something, IDK. We'll see what's up!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 21, 2017, 12:59:43 AM
So, after a few dozen questionnaires they came up with an IEP at my daughter's school.

She gets an extra gym class and has all the instructions for how to do classroom things printed off in a list.

So far so good.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
Yesterday I went to the local Tech School and got myself signed up to meet with an admissions councilor later today. Then I went on down to the Department of Workforce Development and got registered. It so happened that a class was scheduled in use of a program that that tests personality type, aptitude, and functions as an occupational interest assessment. The aptitude tests were particularly grueling timed tests and I was a bit humbled by my math results. Also I felt disoriented for hours after until I got a bit of a nap in late that afternoon. Muhbrains are out of shape in addition to the rest of my body, but I look forward to the challenge of getting better on that.

I made what I think will be a very important connect with the test administrator and class teacher. It was just he and I at first and I got to talk with him about my past and reasons for being there seeking help some. He is a licensed councilor in addition to the other things he does for the department and I think my earnest expression of my difficulties and situation struck a chord with him. I expect to be seeing him again as he offered to help me navigate my way through things and gave me his card.

I probably won't open a thread just for this. I'm at a point where discussing my personal life on this board seems a bit unwise. I will definitely post my major moments of progress here in the open bar from time to time. Right now I need to be making some calls to try and track down a copy of my HS diploma.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 02:35:05 PM
As a side note I've been thinking about doing audio readings of things from here for quite some time and had a bit of a chat with QG on the matter yesterday. If anybody here is willing to let me experiment with their work or has a suggestion for what may be a fun "kopyleft" piece to work with I'd like to hear it!

It may be a bit before my life settles into a stable situation, but I should be able to at least do a couple and attach them to posts in the Super Duper Secrets part of the board for folks to give feedback on. All attribution will be given when I read the title and author first. Any such that may be useful for sound sampling or whatever you technosavvy spags can do I'm comfortable with as long as anyone who grants consent for me to do a reading of their work is.

Just don't you try using my voice biometric data to sign me up for anything shady!

*looks pointedly at Faust* :tinfoilhat:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 21, 2017, 03:23:58 PM
A testimonial from the depths of /r/discordian:

Quote from: Chinagreenboring
PD.com forums: a disorganized echo-chamber full of concordian, Greyfaced radical left-wing nutjobs who honestly believe they can take down imaginary Nazis by distributing flyers. They are highly-suspicious of all newcomers and hostile to almost everyone, including themselves. The only thing they don't take seriously is Discordianism.

Totally not butthurt tho  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on February 21, 2017, 03:41:08 PM
That's the best endorsement of this forum I have read in years.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 03:45:53 PM
Clearly the message is getting out there! :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on February 21, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 21, 2017, 03:23:58 PM
A testimonial from the depths of /r/discordian:

Quote from: Chinagreenboring
PD.com forums: a disorganized echo-chamber full of concordian, Greyfaced radical left-wing nutjobs who honestly believe they can take down imaginary Nazis by distributing flyers. They are highly-suspicious of all newcomers and hostile to almost everyone, including themselves. The only thing they don't take seriously is Discordianism.

Totally not butthurt tho  :lulz:

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Smells like victory.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Aucoq on February 21, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 21, 2017, 03:23:58 PM
A testimonial from the depths of /r/discordian:

Quote from: Chinagreenboring
PD.com forums: a disorganized echo-chamber full of concordian, Greyfaced radical left-wing nutjobs who honestly believe they can take down imaginary Nazis by distributing flyers. They are highly-suspicious of all newcomers and hostile to almost everyone, including themselves. The only thing they don't take seriously is Discordianism.

Totally not butthurt tho  :lulz:

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
Yesterday I went to the local Tech School and got myself signed up to meet with an admissions councilor later today. Then I went on down to the Department of Workforce Development and got registered. It so happened that a class was scheduled in use of a program that that tests personality type, aptitude, and functions as an occupational interest assessment. The aptitude tests were particularly grueling timed tests and I was a bit humbled by my math results. Also I felt disoriented for hours after until I got a bit of a nap in late that afternoon. Muhbrains are out of shape in addition to the rest of my body, but I look forward to the challenge of getting better on that.

I made what I think will be a very important connect with the test administrator and class teacher. It was just he and I at first and I got to talk with him about my past and reasons for being there seeking help some. He is a licensed councilor in addition to the other things he does for the department and I think my earnest expression of my difficulties and situation struck a chord with him. I expect to be seeing him again as he offered to help me navigate my way through things and gave me his card.

I probably won't open a thread just for this. I'm at a point where discussing my personal life on this board seems a bit unwise. I will definitely post my major moments of progress here in the open bar from time to time. Right now I need to be making some calls to try and track down a copy of my HS diploma.

Don't forget the magic of the Academia Ghetto Thread!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:16:29 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 21, 2017, 03:23:58 PM
A testimonial from the depths of /r/discordian:

Quote from: Chinagreenboring
PD.com forums: a disorganized echo-chamber full of concordian, Greyfaced radical left-wing nutjobs who honestly believe they can take down imaginary Nazis by distributing flyers. They are highly-suspicious of all newcomers and hostile to almost everyone, including themselves. The only thing they don't take seriously is Discordianism.

Totally not butthurt tho  :lulz:

Wow, Unfunny Eric finally wrote something good!  :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:23:55 PM
I like how we're disorganized but also Grayfaced, and concordian but also radical.

What do words mean, anyway?

Oh wait... I think what he's trying to say is that even though we rarely agree on anything, we did agree that he's just not fucking funny.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on February 21, 2017, 10:33:47 PM
Yanno, if those durn Nazis were actually imaginary I would be a really happy bunny  :fnord:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 10:51:33 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
Yesterday I went to the local Tech School and got myself signed up to meet with an admissions councilor later today. Then I went on down to the Department of Workforce Development and got registered. It so happened that a class was scheduled in use of a program that that tests personality type, aptitude, and functions as an occupational interest assessment. The aptitude tests were particularly grueling timed tests and I was a bit humbled by my math results. Also I felt disoriented for hours after until I got a bit of a nap in late that afternoon. Muhbrains are out of shape in addition to the rest of my body, but I look forward to the challenge of getting better on that.

I made what I think will be a very important connect with the test administrator and class teacher. It was just he and I at first and I got to talk with him about my past and reasons for being there seeking help some. He is a licensed councilor in addition to the other things he does for the department and I think my earnest expression of my difficulties and situation struck a chord with him. I expect to be seeing him again as he offered to help me navigate my way through things and gave me his card.

I probably won't open a thread just for this. I'm at a point where discussing my personal life on this board seems a bit unwise. I will definitely post my major moments of progress here in the open bar from time to time. Right now I need to be making some calls to try and track down a copy of my HS diploma.

Don't forget the magic of the Academia Ghetto Thread!

To my shame I must admit that I had avoided it for no rational reason other than the word "academic" as not relevant to my interests.

This has changed. I had an admission councilor meeting today and I'm inclined to one of a few different things as we when through their course lists. I'm thinking an apprenticeship program, 2 year pre-university courses, or maybe learning accounting as a start to understanding business. I have a bunch of thinking to be doing and will not be letting myself keep my old aversions. I shall read that thread from the start a piece at a time.

It's hard to tell by seeing my words here, but I'm excited.

Like this

:cramstipated:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 10:51:33 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
Yesterday I went to the local Tech School and got myself signed up to meet with an admissions councilor later today. Then I went on down to the Department of Workforce Development and got registered. It so happened that a class was scheduled in use of a program that that tests personality type, aptitude, and functions as an occupational interest assessment. The aptitude tests were particularly grueling timed tests and I was a bit humbled by my math results. Also I felt disoriented for hours after until I got a bit of a nap in late that afternoon. Muhbrains are out of shape in addition to the rest of my body, but I look forward to the challenge of getting better on that.

I made what I think will be a very important connect with the test administrator and class teacher. It was just he and I at first and I got to talk with him about my past and reasons for being there seeking help some. He is a licensed councilor in addition to the other things he does for the department and I think my earnest expression of my difficulties and situation struck a chord with him. I expect to be seeing him again as he offered to help me navigate my way through things and gave me his card.

I probably won't open a thread just for this. I'm at a point where discussing my personal life on this board seems a bit unwise. I will definitely post my major moments of progress here in the open bar from time to time. Right now I need to be making some calls to try and track down a copy of my HS diploma.

Don't forget the magic of the Academia Ghetto Thread!

To my shame I must admit that I had avoided it for no rational reason other than the word "academic" as not relevant to my interests.

This has changed. I had an admission councilor meeting today and I'm inclined to one of a few different things as we when through their course lists. I'm thinking an apprenticeship program, 2 year pre-university courses, or maybe learning accounting as a start to understanding business. I have a bunch of thinking to be doing and will not be letting myself keep my old aversions. I shall read that thread from the start a piece at a time.

It's hard to tell by seeing my words here, but I'm excited.

Like this

:cramstipated:

It is exciting!

Welcome to the nerdery. :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 10:51:33 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
Yesterday I went to the local Tech School and got myself signed up to meet with an admissions councilor later today. Then I went on down to the Department of Workforce Development and got registered. It so happened that a class was scheduled in use of a program that that tests personality type, aptitude, and functions as an occupational interest assessment. The aptitude tests were particularly grueling timed tests and I was a bit humbled by my math results. Also I felt disoriented for hours after until I got a bit of a nap in late that afternoon. Muhbrains are out of shape in addition to the rest of my body, but I look forward to the challenge of getting better on that.

I made what I think will be a very important connect with the test administrator and class teacher. It was just he and I at first and I got to talk with him about my past and reasons for being there seeking help some. He is a licensed councilor in addition to the other things he does for the department and I think my earnest expression of my difficulties and situation struck a chord with him. I expect to be seeing him again as he offered to help me navigate my way through things and gave me his card.

I probably won't open a thread just for this. I'm at a point where discussing my personal life on this board seems a bit unwise. I will definitely post my major moments of progress here in the open bar from time to time. Right now I need to be making some calls to try and track down a copy of my HS diploma.

Don't forget the magic of the Academia Ghetto Thread!

To my shame I must admit that I had avoided it for no rational reason other than the word "academic" as not relevant to my interests.

This has changed. I had an admission councilor meeting today and I'm inclined to one of a few different things as we when through their course lists. I'm thinking an apprenticeship program, 2 year pre-university courses, or maybe learning accounting as a start to understanding business. I have a bunch of thinking to be doing and will not be letting myself keep my old aversions. I shall read that thread from the start a piece at a time.

It's hard to tell by seeing my words here, but I'm excited.

Like this

:cramstipated:

It is exciting!

Welcome to the nerdery. :)

No longer will I be merely a thuggish slacker on the outside looking in wistfully at the nerds in their happy pursuit of knowledge. I finally realized that the door was always unlocked... better late than never!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 11:46:04 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 10:51:33 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
Yesterday I went to the local Tech School and got myself signed up to meet with an admissions councilor later today. Then I went on down to the Department of Workforce Development and got registered. It so happened that a class was scheduled in use of a program that that tests personality type, aptitude, and functions as an occupational interest assessment. The aptitude tests were particularly grueling timed tests and I was a bit humbled by my math results. Also I felt disoriented for hours after until I got a bit of a nap in late that afternoon. Muhbrains are out of shape in addition to the rest of my body, but I look forward to the challenge of getting better on that.

I made what I think will be a very important connect with the test administrator and class teacher. It was just he and I at first and I got to talk with him about my past and reasons for being there seeking help some. He is a licensed councilor in addition to the other things he does for the department and I think my earnest expression of my difficulties and situation struck a chord with him. I expect to be seeing him again as he offered to help me navigate my way through things and gave me his card.

I probably won't open a thread just for this. I'm at a point where discussing my personal life on this board seems a bit unwise. I will definitely post my major moments of progress here in the open bar from time to time. Right now I need to be making some calls to try and track down a copy of my HS diploma.

Don't forget the magic of the Academia Ghetto Thread!

To my shame I must admit that I had avoided it for no rational reason other than the word "academic" as not relevant to my interests.

This has changed. I had an admission councilor meeting today and I'm inclined to one of a few different things as we when through their course lists. I'm thinking an apprenticeship program, 2 year pre-university courses, or maybe learning accounting as a start to understanding business. I have a bunch of thinking to be doing and will not be letting myself keep my old aversions. I shall read that thread from the start a piece at a time.

It's hard to tell by seeing my words here, but I'm excited.

Like this

:cramstipated:

It is exciting!

Welcome to the nerdery. :)

No longer will I be merely a thuggish slacker on the outside looking in wistfully at the nerds in their happy pursuit of knowledge. I finally realized that the door was always unlocked... better late than never!

I didn't get my GED until I was 40, so I wholeheartedly support this line of reasoning.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2017, 11:53:19 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 21, 2017, 03:23:58 PM
A testimonial from the depths of /r/discordian:

Quote from: Chinagreenboring
PD.com forums: a disorganized echo-chamber full of concordian, Greyfaced radical left-wing nutjobs who honestly believe they can take down imaginary Nazis by distributing flyers. They are highly-suspicious of all newcomers and hostile to almost everyone, including themselves. The only thing they don't take seriously is Discordianism.

Totally not butthurt tho  :lulz:

Going into newsfeed.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 22, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.

:banana:

Acting adult is hard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2017, 02:06:34 PM
After the inglorious, catastrophic failure of my hard drive, my new desktop has finally arrived.  So far, so good.  Not looking forward to restoring all my setting and programs...but it's gotta be done, I suppose.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
Oh, also going for coffee with my newer employees next week.  Lets see if they have a better quality of coffee than this place.  Wouldn't be hard...

I'm going to do some stress testing on the new PC this afternoon/evening.  If it goes well, I might even do some streaming, just to push the limits.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 22, 2017, 02:34:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
Oh, also going for coffee with my newer employees next week.  Lets see if they have a better quality of coffee than this place.  Wouldn't be hard...

I'm going to do some stress testing on the new PC this afternoon/evening.  If it goes well, I might even do some streaming, just to push the limits.

Drop us a link somewhere when/if you start streaming.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2017, 02:40:18 PM
Will do.  Just waiting for everything to download atm.  5 mb/s is pretty good, but when you're downloading tens of gigs of programs and files...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 02:56:48 PM
That's awesome Cain
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 22, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.

:banana:

Acting adult is hard.

There comes a point at which you get so deep into it that you have the realization that there is no way out, and no one to adult for you if you should find yourself unable to adult. There is no back-up plan. Just you, being the adult.

It's terrifying.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:32:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
Oh, also going for coffee with my newer employees next week.  Lets see if they have a better quality of coffee than this place.  Wouldn't be hard...

I'm going to do some stress testing on the new PC this afternoon/evening.  If it goes well, I might even do some streaming, just to push the limits.

Excellent! On both counts!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:55:43 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 22, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.

:banana:

Acting adult is hard.

There comes a point at which you get so deep into it that you have the realization that there is no way out, and no one to adult for you if you should find yourself unable to adult. There is no back-up plan. Just you, being the adult.

It's terrifying.

RELEVANT: http://www.npr.org/2017/02/21/510554718/adulting-school-teaches-young-adults-grown-up-skills?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170221
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 22, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.

:banana:

Acting adult is hard.

There comes a point at which you get so deep into it that you have the realization that there is no way out, and no one to adult for you if you should find yourself unable to adult. There is no back-up plan. Just you, being the adult.

It's terrifying.

It is, and the perceived failure to adult by other people's standards, despite perhaps one's own limitations, feels so grueling and shitty and shameful.

Good for those people at the Adulting School, that's awesome.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2017, 05:39:35 PM
Alright, about to try some streaming (https://www.twitch.tv/scarabandaris/).  Can't guarantee the settings are any good, or that I will be, given how tired I am. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 22, 2017, 06:48:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2017, 05:39:35 PM
Alright, about to try some streaming (https://www.twitch.tv/scarabandaris).  Can't guarantee the settings are any good, or that I will be, given how tired I am.

Delete the /dashboard or it takes anyone else logged into twitch to their own dashboard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2017, 07:00:35 PM
My apologies - I did say I was tired  :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 22, 2017, 08:06:58 PM
Stuck your twitch into my autohost queue
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 22, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.

:banana:

Acting adult is hard.

There comes a point at which you get so deep into it that you have the realization that there is no way out, and no one to adult for you if you should find yourself unable to adult. There is no back-up plan. Just you, being the adult.

It's terrifying.

It's even worse when you have to adult for the peop;e that used to adult for you at the same time as adulting for a tiny human.

It's knackering AND terrifying. And you don't even get a fucking "thank you".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 22, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.

:banana:

Acting adult is hard.

There comes a point at which you get so deep into it that you have the realization that there is no way out, and no one to adult for you if you should find yourself unable to adult. There is no back-up plan. Just you, being the adult.

It's terrifying.

It's even worse when you have to adult for the peop;e that used to adult for you at the same time as adulting for a tiny human.

It's knackering AND terrifying. And you don't even get a fucking "thank you".

More likely, yelled at. :horrormirth: My dad's Alzheimer's is advancing and we may need to move him in with us. It's fucking horrible. At least my spawn are old enough to help.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on February 23, 2017, 01:31:09 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 22, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.

:banana:

Acting adult is hard.

There comes a point at which you get so deep into it that you have the realization that there is no way out, and no one to adult for you if you should find yourself unable to adult. There is no back-up plan. Just you, being the adult.

It's terrifying.

It's even worse when you have to adult for the peop;e that used to adult for you at the same time as adulting for a tiny human.

It's knackering AND terrifying. And you don't even get a fucking "thank you".

More likely, yelled at. :horrormirth: My dad's Alzheimer's is advancing and we may need to move him in with us. It's fucking horrible. At least my spawn are old enough to help.

Oh man, my dad and his brothers are trying to figure out how to gently tell his parents that maybe they shouldn't drive.  They're in their 80's.  That and trying to get an alzheimer's stove that auto shuts off when you walk away because well, grandma has attention issues and grandpa is getting into this weird grandma needs to always cook and automatically know when he's hungry thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 01:40:41 AM
Through grim experience, I can tell you that "gently" isn't an option at a certain point. With shit like that if you're thinking it, it already needs to stop. It's better to have a huge argument and lay down the law than let them potentially injure/kill themselves or others.

It sucks, but by the time they're able to admit it to themselves, damage has already been done. Just to their vehicle, if you're lucky. If you're not then you've got a whole heap of shit to sort out for someone who can't deal with these kinds of consequences.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 01:49:40 AM
And sincere condolonces Nigel, Alzheimer's  is fucking horrible.

I console myself by thinking that in a few hundred years whats left of humanity will mock this era mercilessly for spending so much time, money and effort on say, sports, compared to dealing with, for one thing, diseases. 21C - Advanced enough to know better, still too dumb to bother.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 23, 2017, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 01:40:41 AM
Through grim experience, I can tell you that "gently" isn't an option at a certain point. With shit like that if you're thinking it, it already needs to stop. It's better to have a huge argument and lay down the law than let them potentially injure/kill themselves or others.

It sucks, but by the time they're able to admit it to themselves, damage has already been done. Just to their vehicle, if you're lucky. If you're not then you've got a whole heap of shit to sort out for someone who can't deal with these kinds of consequences.

This. There's a reversal needs to take place where the previous parental authority figure needs to be handled as if they were a toddler. Hum and haw too long and you'll find them chewing on a toaster cable. Dementia is watching the people you love become bits of the people you love. Not sure about alzheimers but we've got one in suspected early stages so I'll probably find out soon enough.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 03:27:18 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 23, 2017, 01:31:09 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 22, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
In the last 2 1/2 hours, I had a nice walk, Made fettucine alfredo, and took a shower. I feel like I was sufficiently adult and good about it. Yay.

:banana:

Acting adult is hard.

There comes a point at which you get so deep into it that you have the realization that there is no way out, and no one to adult for you if you should find yourself unable to adult. There is no back-up plan. Just you, being the adult.

It's terrifying.

It's even worse when you have to adult for the peop;e that used to adult for you at the same time as adulting for a tiny human.

It's knackering AND terrifying. And you don't even get a fucking "thank you".

More likely, yelled at. :horrormirth: My dad's Alzheimer's is advancing and we may need to move him in with us. It's fucking horrible. At least my spawn are old enough to help.

Oh man, my dad and his brothers are trying to figure out how to gently tell his parents that maybe they shouldn't drive.  They're in their 80's.  That and trying to get an alzheimer's stove that auto shuts off when you walk away because well, grandma has attention issues and grandpa is getting into this weird grandma needs to always cook and automatically know when he's hungry thing.

My dad is totally not supposed to be driving, but he drove himself over here Monday morning.

If we do end up having him move in here, we will be putting a kitchenette in the basement with one of those stoves.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 01:49:40 AM
And sincere condolonces Nigel, Alzheimer's  is fucking horrible.

I console myself by thinking that in a few hundred years whats left of humanity will mock this era mercilessly for spending so much time, money and effort on say, sports, compared to dealing with, for one thing, diseases. 21C - Advanced enough to know better, still too dumb to bother.

No shit! We are fucking IDIOTS. One of the most infuriating  things is that there is some evidence that Alzheimers may have a root that is strongly influenced by human behavior, but we don't know what it is. Because humans are pretty much barely above dog-level intelligence, it is hard to get funding to study anthropogenic roots of disease.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 23, 2017, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 01:49:40 AM
And sincere condolonces Nigel, Alzheimer's  is fucking horrible.

I console myself by thinking that in a few hundred years whats left of humanity will mock this era mercilessly for spending so much time, money and effort on say, sports, compared to dealing with, for one thing, diseases. 21C - Advanced enough to know better, still too dumb to bother.

No shit! We are fucking IDIOTS. One of the most infuriating  things is that there is some evidence that Alzheimers may have a root that is strongly influenced by human behavior, but we don't know what it is. Because humans are pretty much barely above dog-level intelligence, it is hard to get funding to study anthropogenic roots of disease.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 23, 2017, 03:42:00 PM
I can't remember if I mentioned I've been writing RPG shit on my RPG blog. I've been regularly writing shit for 3 weeks now. I forgot that it actually feels nice to just write.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 01:49:40 AM
And sincere condolonces Nigel, Alzheimer's  is fucking horrible.

I console myself by thinking that in a few hundred years whats left of humanity will mock this era mercilessly for spending so much time, money and effort on say, sports, compared to dealing with, for one thing, diseases. 21C - Advanced enough to know better, still too dumb to bother.

No shit! We are fucking IDIOTS. One of the most infuriating  things is that there is some evidence that Alzheimers may have a root that is strongly influenced by human behavior, but we don't know what it is. Because humans are pretty much barely above dog-level intelligence, it is hard to get funding to study anthropogenic roots of disease.

I've said for a while that if 10% (FFS, even 1%) of football transfer fees or Hollywood film budgets was mandatory to be put to medical research/care, the average life expectancy would probably be past 100 by now. And that's just looking at the past 30 odd years. Instead we let this shit continue because big explosions and paying morons millions to kick a ball is apparently a better use of resources.

Dog level seems generous. A lot of people I encounter wouldn't rate above a fucking goldfish. Hells, more than a couple of posters here would lose a battle of wits against your average carp. You know who you are. Actually due to dunning Kruger you probably don't, you fucking idiots.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 01:49:40 AM
And sincere condolonces Nigel, Alzheimer's  is fucking horrible.

I console myself by thinking that in a few hundred years whats left of humanity will mock this era mercilessly for spending so much time, money and effort on say, sports, compared to dealing with, for one thing, diseases. 21C - Advanced enough to know better, still too dumb to bother.

No shit! We are fucking IDIOTS. One of the most infuriating  things is that there is some evidence that Alzheimers may have a root that is strongly influenced by human behavior, but we don't know what it is. Because humans are pretty much barely above dog-level intelligence, it is hard to get funding to study anthropogenic roots of disease.

I've said for a while that if 10% (FFS, even 1%) of football transfer fees or Hollywood film budgets was mandatory to be put to medical research/care, the average life expectancy would probably be past 100 by now. And that's just looking at the past 30 odd years. Instead we let this shit continue because big explosions and paying morons millions to kick a ball is apparently a better use of resources.

Dog level seems generous. A lot of people I encounter wouldn't rate above a fucking goldfish. Hells, more than a couple of posters here would lose a battle of wits against your average carp. You know who you are. Actually due to dunning Kruger you probably don't, you fucking idiots.

Goldfish do at least have rudimentary problem-solving skills.

But seriously, dog problem-solving and reasoning can be estimated to range from about 60-85 on an IQ scale, taking into consideration that dogs have almost none of the cortex that predicts future outcomes and so can't plan ahead at all. IQ is based on a normal distribution with a human average of 100, the distribution mean. Below 85 is considered cognitively impaired, above 115 is considered intellectually gifted. That's one standard deviation in each direction. Most of the people here are one to two standard deviations above the mean, as far as I can tell, with maybe a couple people who are more than two.

Roughly 78% of people are within one standard deviation from the mean. That's what we're dealing with. Not to sound like an elitist prick, which is an easy hole to fall into when discussing reasoning skills, but the general lack of intellectual reasoning ability in the majority of the population means that we will probably never, ever get even the small fraction of funding for science that could significantly improve the lives and health of everyone, because sportsball is fun.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 05:33:09 PM
Well. That's rather depressing.

There's not much I can add to that really. It's almost enough to tempt me to start hitting the bottle.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
On the plus side, I suspect with a bit of mangling and expansion between our comments there, there's a decent big words to be had.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 06:19:25 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
On the plus side, I suspect with a bit of mangling and expansion between our comments there, there's a decent big words to be had.

I could definitely see this being massaged into something readable... but I'm not sure whether it would be particularly inspiring. It would be nice if we could create something that inspires people to put their trust in people who are smarter to them and have dedicated their careers to making life better for everyone.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
As a kind of dialogue piece it may work both ways, I'd push disdain against your optimism kind of thing.

If I could request a split from a mod that can be bothered I'll see what I can do, if that's OK with you?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on February 23, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Its always akward when you are awaken by a paramedic jabbing his thumbs into your chest.

Roomate thought I killed myself, cops kicked down my door and eveything.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 23, 2017, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: Meunster on February 23, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Its always akward when you are awaken by a paramedic jabbing his thumbs into your chest.

Roomate thought I killed myself, cops kicked down my door and eveything.

Just a heavy sleeper, orrrr.....?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 23, 2017, 08:22:51 PM
I just got on a bike for the first time in almost 20 years.

Some thoughts:
-Riding a bike may be a skill that you never forget, but it's no less nerve-wracking and harrowing.
-Potholes.
-Stopping is hard because my feet don't touch the ground.
-Potholes.
-If I can relax my grip for a few seconds, it's really pleasant.
-FUCKING POTHOLES ARE TERRIFYING.

I didn't fall, but god damn there are a lot of potholes in my neighborhood.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 23, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 23, 2017, 08:22:51 PM
I just got on a bike for the first time in almost 20 years.

Some thoughts:
-Riding a bike may be a skill that you never forget, but it's no less nerve-wracking and harrowing.
-Potholes.
-Stopping is hard because my feet don't touch the ground.
-Potholes.
-If I can relax my grip for a few seconds, it's really pleasant.
-FUCKING POTHOLES ARE TERRIFYING.

I didn't fall, but god damn there are a lot of potholes in my neighborhood.

Let me add to your terror. Rail Roads.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on February 23, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 23, 2017, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: Meunster on February 23, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Its always akward when you are awaken by a paramedic jabbing his thumbs into your chest.

Roomate thought I killed myself, cops kicked down my door and eveything.

Just a heavy sleeper, orrrr.....?

Heavy sleeper. Also have phases of hypersomnia and insomnia.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 23, 2017, 08:39:38 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 23, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 23, 2017, 08:22:51 PM
I just got on a bike for the first time in almost 20 years.

Some thoughts:
-Riding a bike may be a skill that you never forget, but it's no less nerve-wracking and harrowing.
-Potholes.
-Stopping is hard because my feet don't touch the ground.
-Potholes.
-If I can relax my grip for a few seconds, it's really pleasant.
-FUCKING POTHOLES ARE TERRIFYING.

I didn't fall, but god damn there are a lot of potholes in my neighborhood.

Let me add to your terror. Rail Roads.

Luckily, I don't think I have to ride over those. But yeah FUCK NO.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: Meunster on February 23, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 23, 2017, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: Meunster on February 23, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Its always akward when you are awaken by a paramedic jabbing his thumbs into your chest.

Roomate thought I killed myself, cops kicked down my door and eveything.

Just a heavy sleeper, orrrr.....?

Heavy sleeper. Also have phases of hypersomnia and insomnia.

Sounds like your roommate is as smart as you are.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 23, 2017, 11:12:01 PM
Quote from: Freeky on February 23, 2017, 08:22:51 PM
I just got on a bike for the first time in almost 20 years.

Some thoughts:
-Riding a bike may be a skill that you never forget, but it's no less nerve-wracking and harrowing.
-Potholes.
-Stopping is hard because my feet don't touch the ground.
-Potholes.
-If I can relax my grip for a few seconds, it's really pleasant.
-FUCKING POTHOLES ARE TERRIFYING.

I didn't fall, but god damn there are a lot of potholes in my neighborhood.

I've been commuting by bicycle for much more of my adult life than I have driven. All those things have lost their terror. But cars still try to run me over on the reg. That never stops.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 23, 2017, 11:39:27 PM
My voice is killing me after all that streaming yesterday.  I don't know how these "pro-streamers" do 10 hour stints or whatever.

In other knees, I busted up my knee and had a moron wake me up about 5 hours earlier than I intended.  So today is just great.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2017, 02:56:01 AM
In a fit of stupidity, I did the sled like 10 fucking times at the gym, sent my BP into the stratosphere, and spend an hour lying on the floor.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2017, 03:04:27 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
As a kind of dialogue piece it may work both ways, I'd push disdain against your optimism kind of thing.

If I could request a split from a mod that can be bothered I'll see what I can do, if that's OK with you?

That sounds great to me!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2017, 03:22:33 AM
If only dogs had muscular lips, they'd never shut up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_zW6APE1qQ
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 24, 2017, 03:32:02 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2017, 11:39:27 PM
My voice is killing me after all that streaming yesterday.  I don't know how these "pro-streamers" do 10 hour stints or whatever.

In other knees, I busted up my knee and had a moron wake me up about 5 hours earlier than I intended.  So today is just great.

Hydration and warming up, also whole throat is muscle, make it buff, inject steroids, swallow nails.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: TheEldritchGod on February 24, 2017, 08:29:14 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 24, 2017, 03:32:02 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2017, 11:39:27 PM
My voice is killing me after all that streaming yesterday.  I don't know how these "pro-streamers" do 10 hour stints or whatever.
Hydration and warming up, also whole throat is muscle, make it buff, inject steroids, swallow nails.

Chew broken glass for breakfast just to be mean. And starbursts. I use lots of starburst fruit chews. You know why they are so juicy? The chemicals in the candy are a natural irritant and your mouth makes massive amounts of saliva in an attempt to dilute the irritant. I suggest cutting a fruit chew into fourths and eating only a little when you pause from time to time. Helps to flatten it out ahead of time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 24, 2017, 10:44:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2017, 11:39:27 PM
My voice is killing me after all that streaming yesterday.  I don't know how these "pro-streamers" do 10 hour stints or whatever.

In other knees, I busted up my knee and had a moron wake me up about 5 hours earlier than I intended.  So today is just great.

Some people take not being able to shut up to a professional level.

In other news, "in other knees" is amusing me far more than it probably should.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 24, 2017, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 24, 2017, 10:44:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2017, 11:39:27 PM
My voice is killing me after all that streaming yesterday.  I don't know how these "pro-streamers" do 10 hour stints or whatever.

In other knees, I busted up my knee and had a moron wake me up about 5 hours earlier than I intended.  So today is just great.

Some people take not being able to shut up to a professional level.

In other news, "in other knees" is amusing me far more than it probably should.

Just shows how amazingly tired I was.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: TheEldritchGod on February 24, 2017, 08:29:14 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 24, 2017, 03:32:02 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2017, 11:39:27 PM
My voice is killing me after all that streaming yesterday.  I don't know how these "pro-streamers" do 10 hour stints or whatever.
Hydration and warming up, also whole throat is muscle, make it buff, inject steroids, swallow nails.

Chew broken glass for breakfast just to be mean. And starbursts. I use lots of starburst fruit chews. You know why they are so juicy? The chemicals citric acid (you fucking moron) in the candy are a natural irritant and your mouth makes massive amounts of saliva in an attempt to dilute the irritant. I suggest cutting a fruit chew into fourths and eating only a little when you pause from time to time. Helps to flatten it out ahead of time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on February 24, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: TheEldritchGod on February 24, 2017, 08:29:14 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 24, 2017, 03:32:02 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2017, 11:39:27 PM
My voice is killing me after all that streaming yesterday.  I don't know how these "pro-streamers" do 10 hour stints or whatever.
Hydration and warming up, also whole throat is muscle, make it buff, inject steroids, swallow nails.

Chew broken glass for breakfast just to be mean. And starbursts. I use lots of starburst fruit chews. You know why they are so juicy? The chemicals citric acid (you fucking moron) in the candy are a natural irritant and your mouth makes massive amounts of saliva in an attempt to dilute the irritant. I suggest cutting a fruit chew into fourths and eating only a little when you pause from time to time. Helps to flatten it out ahead of time.

Citric acid can be a good source of vitamin C, can't it?

*runs off to wikipedia*

Edit: Nope, it's ascorbic acid. Now I know.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 24, 2017, 06:00:47 PM
I'm about 70% certain this is actually RP on a fresh batch of questionable stimulants.

The 30% uncertainty is due to it possibly being a not so fresh batch.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2017, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 24, 2017, 06:00:47 PM
I'm about 70% certain this is actually RP on a fresh batch of questionable stimulants.

The 30% uncertainty is due to it possibly being a not so fresh batch.

Nah, this one is younger and dumber than Ron Paul. The other one is definitely RP or an RP clone, though. I suspect that the Libertarian forums just churn them out like an assembly-line, all indoctrinated and ready to get in Internet fights.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2017, 06:12:15 PM
Every few weeks, I add a fresh new batch of idiots to my block list, and every few weeks, I go back in and delete the ones who have quit posting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 24, 2017, 06:14:17 PM
I can't reply in any of the productive boards, so I for one am thankful everytime someone comes in and pwns us with a social experiment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2017, 06:31:25 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 24, 2017, 06:14:17 PM
I can't reply in any of the productive boards,

What, now?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 24, 2017, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2017, 06:31:25 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 24, 2017, 06:14:17 PM
I can't reply in any of the productive boards,

What, now?

It's something to do with the nanny wall at work, I think. When I try to post in that one sub, it just blanks out whatever I've written and goes to a new post screen. Used to happen across the whole forum. Now it only happens in there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 24, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
So, aye, found out today I'm gonny be a grandad. :eek:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 24, 2017, 10:57:50 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 24, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
So, aye, found out today I'm gonny be a grandad. :eek:

Holy What The Hell? I kind of was stuck with this image of you as an early 30's mostly feral hooligan. I'm still sticking with that image, but also adding Granddad, because...hell yeah!

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 24, 2017, 11:15:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 24, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
So, aye, found out today I'm gonny be a grandad. :eek:

Congrats on beating darwin man.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 25, 2017, 12:20:40 AM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 24, 2017, 10:57:50 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 24, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
So, aye, found out today I'm gonny be a grandad. :eek:

Holy What The Hell? I kind of was stuck with this image of you as an early 30's mostly feral hooligan. I'm still sticking with that image, but also adding Granddad, because...hell yeah!

Congratulations!

Pent's old as fuck, man. He's been around so long that Nessie isn't sure whether he's real or just a fanciful legend.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 25, 2017, 02:27:44 AM
Today I did a ridiculously adult thing, and ordered a brand-new washing machine to be delivered to our house.

I've ordered new appliances before, but it's been a long-ass time.

I can't wait to do it some more, all our appliances are crap. None of them work quite right.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 25, 2017, 08:49:39 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 25, 2017, 02:27:44 AM
Today I did a ridiculously adult thing, and ordered a brand-new washing machine to be delivered to our house.

I've ordered new appliances before, but it's been a long-ass time.

I can't wait to do it some more, all our appliances are crap. None of them work quite right.

No more You Tube videos and swears? Breaks my heart just a little.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 25, 2017, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 25, 2017, 08:49:39 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 25, 2017, 02:27:44 AM
Today I did a ridiculously adult thing, and ordered a brand-new washing machine to be delivered to our house.

I've ordered new appliances before, but it's been a long-ass time.

I can't wait to do it some more, all our appliances are crap. None of them work quite right.

No more You Tube videos and swears? Breaks my heart just a little.

THOSE DAYS ARE GONE.

I hope.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on February 25, 2017, 09:44:51 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: Meunster on February 23, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 23, 2017, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: Meunster on February 23, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Its always akward when you are awaken by a paramedic jabbing his thumbs into your chest.

Roomate thought I killed myself, cops kicked down my door and eveything.

Just a heavy sleeper, orrrr.....?

Heavy sleeper. Also have phases of hypersomnia and insomnia.

Sounds like your roommate is as smart as you are.

He knows about my mental condition . I'm not going to get detailed on here cause i feel like id be trying to excuse my behavior. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on February 26, 2017, 12:25:05 AM
How are things going with yourself? You joined the Military didn't you?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on February 26, 2017, 12:39:07 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2017, 12:25:05 AM
How are things going with yourself? You joined the Military didn't you?

Yeah, going decent. Lucked out on a good mos.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on February 26, 2017, 12:51:36 AM
Glad to hear it, you had me worried with the roommate comment but from what you were saying a couple of years back it sounds like things have gotten a lot better.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2017, 04:12:52 PM
Just got an email from a student asking me for the linear regression equation.

These are science majors, y'all. Science majors.

We're so fucked.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 27, 2017, 04:31:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2017, 04:12:52 PM
Just got an email from a student asking me for the linear regression equation.

These are science majors, y'all. Science majors.

We're so fucked.

:um:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 27, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
No idea what any of that means but it sounds bad  :cry:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 27, 2017, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2017, 04:12:52 PM
Just got an email from a student asking me for the linear regression equation.

These are science majors, y'all. Science majors.

We're so fucked.

Tell them it's 58008 upside down and backwards. SCIENCE!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2017, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 27, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
No idea what any of that means but it sounds bad  :cry:

It's just an extremely simple math thing -- like, beginning algebra -- that absolutely everyone is supposed to know how to do before starting the first term of Principles.

It's now the second term.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2017, 09:11:15 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on February 27, 2017, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2017, 04:12:52 PM
Just got an email from a student asking me for the linear regression equation.

These are science majors, y'all. Science majors.

We're so fucked.

Tell them it's 58008 upside down and backwards. SCIENCE!

I had one email me because the lab write up calls for four tables, but she only had three  tables. That is because she failed to recognize the first table, which is helpfully captioned "Table 1" and contains the experimental design.

Let me repeat that: IT CONTAINS THE EXPERIMENTAL DESIGN. She literally could not have conducted the experiment without it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on February 27, 2017, 11:58:37 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2017, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 27, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
No idea what any of that means but it sounds bad  :cry:

It's just an extremely simple math thing -- like, beginning algebra -- that absolutely everyone is supposed to know how to do before starting the first term of Principles.

It's now the second term.

Also, being that far in they should know how to look it up. I literally forgot what linear regression was, knew I should know it, and simply used the internet to get me to the wikipedia article on how to do linear regression.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 28, 2017, 08:08:46 AM
I just had a ridiculously attractive woman (think female version of the Dos Equis guy) tell me that I was "Food Rambo".

I think that might be the highest compliment anyone has ever paid me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 28, 2017, 08:10:10 AM
Oh yeah, unflounced. Thank/blame Roger. And don't even think of talking to me about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 28, 2017, 09:58:35 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 28, 2017, 08:10:10 AM
Oh yeah, unflounced. Thank/blame Roger. And don't even think of talking to me about it.

Thanks/Damn you Roger!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on February 28, 2017, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 28, 2017, 08:08:46 AM
I just had a ridiculously attractive woman (think female version of the Dos Equis guy) tell me that I was "Food Rambo".

I think that might be the highest compliment anyone has ever paid me.

So, she had a beard?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 28, 2017, 01:12:43 PM
Looks like the dog is on it's last legs.

Well, shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on February 28, 2017, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 28, 2017, 08:10:10 AM
Oh yeah, unflounced. Thank/blame Roger. And don't even think of talking to me about it.

Thanks Roger, you take subsequent blame for this. And don't even think of talking about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2017, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 28, 2017, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 28, 2017, 08:08:46 AM
I just had a ridiculously attractive woman (think female version of the Dos Equis guy) tell me that I was "Food Rambo".

I think that might be the highest compliment anyone has ever paid me.

So, she had a beard?

Old enough to have arm-wrestled Fidel Castro when it would've been a fair fight?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 28, 2017, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 27, 2017, 11:58:37 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2017, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 27, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
No idea what any of that means but it sounds bad  :cry:

It's just an extremely simple math thing -- like, beginning algebra -- that absolutely everyone is supposed to know how to do before starting the first term of Principles.

It's now the second term.

Also, being that far in they should know how to look it up. I literally forgot what linear regression was, knew I should know it, and simply used the internet to get me to the wikipedia article on how to do linear regression.

Yeah, that's the amazing thing. She should have been able, at the very least, to look it up.

I had another student just not do part of his homework, because he couldn't find the email I sent to the whole class about class data a week before the assignment was due. Most likely because it was in his junk mail folder. The part that is a head-scratcher for me is that he didn't look in his junk mail folder or email me asking about it; he just skipped it, and left a note in its place explaining that he couldn't do it because he never got the email.

Yeah, no. You don't get points for "I didn't try".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 28, 2017, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 28, 2017, 08:10:10 AM
Oh yeah, unflounced. Thank/blame Roger. And don't even think of talking to me about it.

Glad you're back, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Dildo Argentino on February 28, 2017, 08:08:13 PM
I'm sorry to have disappeared after reappearing (and even posting the quotes from Feyerabend, must look into that), suddenly got very busy, still am, but it's subsiding. I hope it's alright to post a video here, heard this yesterday, never heard of the guy before, but this song is positively Discordian to my mind... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zD1WveH3xI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zD1WveH3xI)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on February 28, 2017, 09:55:13 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 28, 2017, 01:12:43 PM
Looks like the dog is on it's last legs.

Well, shit.

Sorry to hear that. I had to put one down a few months ago. Still having weird dreams about it from time to time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 01, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
So I don't have a lot of friends. Can't be arsed with most people. Probably less than a dozen on this stupid planet I give a flying fuck about. Last night one of them killed himself.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 01, 2017, 05:26:13 PM
Shit.  Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 01, 2017, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 01, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
So I don't have a lot of friends. Can't be arsed with most people. Probably less than a dozen on this stupid planet I give a flying fuck about. Last night one of them killed himself.

:sad: Wow man... that's terrible. Are you going to be ok?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 01, 2017, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 01, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
So I don't have a lot of friends. Can't be arsed with most people. Probably less than a dozen on this stupid planet I give a flying fuck about. Last night one of them killed himself.

Fuck, I'm sorry. That's awful.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 01, 2017, 07:13:30 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 01, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
So I don't have a lot of friends. Can't be arsed with most people. Probably less than a dozen on this stupid planet I give a flying fuck about. Last night one of them killed himself.

Aw, fuck. Sad to hear it man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 01, 2017, 10:29:22 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 01, 2017, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 01, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
So I don't have a lot of friends. Can't be arsed with most people. Probably less than a dozen on this stupid planet I give a flying fuck about. Last night one of them killed himself.

:sad: Wow man... that's terrible. Are you going to be ok?

Yeah, I'll be okay. Fuck all else for it. Derek quit. Sure he had his reasons. Two surviving musketeers gonna hook up this weekend, fall off the wagon and maybe punch the crap out a pub or two in his honour. He was a good guy stuck in a shit life. He'll be missed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 02, 2017, 01:02:23 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 01, 2017, 10:29:22 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 01, 2017, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 01, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
So I don't have a lot of friends. Can't be arsed with most people. Probably less than a dozen on this stupid planet I give a flying fuck about. Last night one of them killed himself.

:sad: Wow man... that's terrible. Are you going to be ok?

Yeah, I'll be okay. Fuck all else for it. Derek quit. Sure he had his reasons. Two surviving musketeers gonna hook up this weekend, fall off the wagon and maybe punch the crap out a pub or two in his honour. He was a good guy stuck in a shit life. He'll be missed.

Fair enough. Everyone has their limit, sad as it is. Make a mark or two in his name!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ziegejunge on March 03, 2017, 06:21:46 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss, P3nt. Good friends are one of life's greatest treasures.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 04, 2017, 07:51:06 PM
(http://imgur.com/a/8d2xG) New doggo, Nala. My parents' new doggo, anyway. She is ams a sweetiepie.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 05, 2017, 02:52:11 AM
Also, just rewatched the Phantom of the Opera 2004 movie. At the end I sobbed like a baby. An ugly, ugly baby.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on March 06, 2017, 11:59:14 PM
I had an internet argument with a person that insisted that the giant panda's digestive system was a marvel of efficiency. 

I didn't get why they were emotionally invested in this until I found out they were vegan.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 07, 2017, 12:25:12 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on March 06, 2017, 11:59:14 PM
I had an internet argument with a person that insisted that the giant panda's digestive system was a marvel of efficiency. 

I didn't get why they were emotionally invested in this until I found out they were vegan.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on March 07, 2017, 12:33:03 AM
Also, pandas will kill goats if the panda is motivated and the goat is dumb.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 07, 2017, 01:00:54 AM
I would imagine a goat would be too stubborn to kill.  By a panda anyway, they're not exactly the poster-children for motivation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on March 07, 2017, 01:08:13 AM
There was a recent thing in the news about a panda managing to kill a goat.  Maybe it was a combo of smart panda and dumb goat.

Pandas will eat meat if they find it, it's how they bait traps for tagging wild ones. 

That aside pandas manage to eat bamboo with having a gut set up like a carnivore and only extract energy from bamboo due to bacteria in their gut.  They didn't even get the nice efficient bacteria to do it.  From that they evolved a sloth like metabolism and tiny organs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on March 07, 2017, 01:10:34 AM
I need to compile a nature is dumb list. 

Like, bedbugs don't have vaginas and face mites have no anus.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:08:44 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on March 07, 2017, 01:10:34 AM
I need to compile a nature is dumb list. 

Like, bedbugs don't have vaginas and face mites have no anus.

Allergies.

Also, I want to point out that "survival of the fittest" just means the organism is fit enough to not die for long enough to squirt out one or more offspring. That's it. Nature's bar is REALLY LOW.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:09:47 AM
Quote from: Freeky on March 05, 2017, 02:52:11 AM
Also, just rewatched the Phantom of the Opera 2004 movie. At the end I sobbed like a baby. An ugly, ugly baby.

This was me at Moana last night.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:12:28 AM
Gave my goddamn presentation this evening and it went smooth as fuck.

Now I just have to gear up for my thesis presentation.

For unknown reasons, I love teaching but I hate presenting. I think I'm just worried when presenting to a roomful of PhDs that everyone will be like "wutever ur dumb and ur research is dumb and pointless, garter snakes whatever crazy garter snake endocrine lady".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 07, 2017, 05:08:30 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:09:47 AM
Quote from: Freeky on March 05, 2017, 02:52:11 AM
Also, just rewatched the Phantom of the Opera 2004 movie. At the end I sobbed like a baby. An ugly, ugly baby.

This was me at Moana last night.

Oh, that's a good movie. Also sobbed at that.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:12:28 AM
Gave my goddamn presentation this evening and it went smooth as fuck.

Now I just have to gear up for my thesis presentation.

For unknown reasons, I love teaching but I hate presenting. I think I'm just worried when presenting to a roomful of PhDs that everyone will be like "wutever ur dumb and ur research is dumb and pointless, garter snakes whatever crazy garter snake endocrine lady".

You're going to be great and they'll not think you're a crazy garter snake endocrine lady.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 07, 2017, 05:21:42 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 26, 2016, 10:27:24 AM
Welcome to the Dick waving thead
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Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: Freeky on March 07, 2017, 05:08:30 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:09:47 AM
Quote from: Freeky on March 05, 2017, 02:52:11 AM
Also, just rewatched the Phantom of the Opera 2004 movie. At the end I sobbed like a baby. An ugly, ugly baby.

This was me at Moana last night.

Oh, that's a good movie. Also sobbed at that.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:12:28 AM
Gave my goddamn presentation this evening and it went smooth as fuck.

Now I just have to gear up for my thesis presentation.

For unknown reasons, I love teaching but I hate presenting. I think I'm just worried when presenting to a roomful of PhDs that everyone will be like "wutever ur dumb and ur research is dumb and pointless, garter snakes whatever crazy garter snake endocrine lady".

You're going to be great and they'll not think you're a crazy garter snake endocrine lady.

Aw, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 07, 2017, 05:21:42 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 26, 2016, 10:27:24 AM
Welcome to the Dick waving thead
(http://i.imgur.com/QP0vD7E.gif)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/e046a55b5c2827769a1162b06b5e9a57/tumblr_omfivckUAi1roo64to1_1280.png)

This is delightful!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on March 07, 2017, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:08:44 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on March 07, 2017, 01:10:34 AM
I need to compile a nature is dumb list. 

Like, bedbugs don't have vaginas and face mites have no anus.

Allergies.

Also, I want to point out that "survival of the fittest" just means the organism is fit enough to not die for long enough to squirt out one or more offspring. That's it. Nature's bar is REALLY LOW.

Abraham Lincoln has no living descendants.

My grandpa does.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on March 07, 2017, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 04:08:44 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on March 07, 2017, 01:10:34 AM
I need to compile a nature is dumb list. 

Like, bedbugs don't have vaginas and face mites have no anus.

Allergies.

Also, I want to point out that "survival of the fittest" just means the organism is fit enough to not die for long enough to squirt out one or more offspring. That's it. Nature's bar is REALLY LOW.

Abraham Lincoln has no living descendants.

My grandpa does.

Survival of the adequatest.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2017, 05:52:46 PM
Today, I have a whole group of students who are absolutely gobsmacked by having to do simple math. Which I walked them through, and them even put a slide on the projector with the step-by-step.

And they want me to show them how to use Excel.

I am not a math tutor. I am not an Excel tutor. Hypothetically, they had to make graphs and do math all last term in order to be in this class, so WTF.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 07, 2017, 07:19:07 PM
To quote Bull Durham:  "They're kids.  Scare them."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 07, 2017, 09:09:58 PM
Employment... check.

Place to live... check.

Subversive revolution in metaphysics... check.


Overall a successful day!  :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 08, 2017, 03:39:21 AM
Quote from: LMNO on March 07, 2017, 07:19:07 PM
To quote Bull Durham:  "They're kids.  Scare them."

I was a little mean. I said "You probably need to go to the library and review basic math".

And then there was a small parade of students asking me questions about the final project, which I have been reminding them to start on weekly for two months.

But you know what? Allll these lazy little shits who fail won't be my problem next term, so fuck it. I have no idea how they got this far, but they won't skate any further.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 08, 2017, 03:39:40 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 07, 2017, 09:09:58 PM
Employment... check.

Place to live... check.

Subversive revolution in metaphysics... check.


Overall a successful day!  :)

Excellent!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 08, 2017, 03:57:39 AM
Aw. :) Just as I was being all ragey and bitter about a few incompetents in my class, one of my students from last term emailed me to say that she loved my lab last  term, and wants to be in my section next term.

HEART HEART HEART HEART HEART.

I remember this one, she is super hardworking and great. It's funny, my favorite students are almost never the high-score earners, but the ones who work really hard to master the materials and ask a lot of questions.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 08, 2017, 05:15:55 AM
hey guys I just jacked off a car








my parole officer's gonna be AROUSED
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on March 08, 2017, 12:42:47 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 08, 2017, 05:15:55 AM
hey guys I just jacked off a car








my parole officer's gonna be AROUSED

Were there dragons?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 08, 2017, 01:22:18 PM
ITT: Carjacking done right.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 08, 2017, 02:59:12 PM
no, its a problem, my parole officer specifically told me not to get him all hot and bothered

fuck, man... what do I do??? I'm not going back to the Shadow Zone.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on March 08, 2017, 06:39:54 PM
Been working at 5-string banjo for a few years now and really feel like I am getting somewhere.

I can do basic claw-hammer just fine, it's really easy actually. Now, after much effort, I can just about sing and finger-pick at the same time, which is SUPER RAD.

People make fun of ukuleles, but 10 years of playing those dinky little things have translated into a baseline competency in other string instruments.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 08, 2017, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Salty on March 08, 2017, 06:39:54 PM
Been working at 5-string banjo for a few years now and really feel like I am getting somewhere.

I can do basic claw-hammer just fine, it's really easy actually. Now, after much effort, I can just about sing and finger-pick at the same time, which is SUPER RAD.

People make fun of ukuleles, but 10 years of playing those dinky little things have translated into a baseline competency in other string instruments.

My brother plays a mean banjo.  Learned a lot of the old Appalachian songs, too, the ones with the weird tunings.

He was very into recommending the Earl Scruggs instruction books for people who wanted to learn [/borderline unsolicited advice]
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on March 08, 2017, 06:51:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 08, 2017, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Salty on March 08, 2017, 06:39:54 PM
Been working at 5-string banjo for a few years now and really feel like I am getting somewhere.

I can do basic claw-hammer just fine, it's really easy actually. Now, after much effort, I can just about sing and finger-pick at the same time, which is SUPER RAD.

People make fun of ukuleles, but 10 years of playing those dinky little things have translated into a baseline competency in other string instruments.

My brother plays a mean banjo.  Learned a lot of the old Appalachian songs, too, the ones with the weird tunings.

He was very into recommending the Earl Scruggs instruction books for people who wanted to learn [/borderline unsolicited advice]

Thanks! I didn't realize he had books. I will definitely check them out.

I have not yet learned the Scruggs method. For some reason my brain doesn't naturally take to it, like claw-hammer. So far, I have just been picking by ear. More accurately, there are a few songs that have been ricocheting around my head and speakers and I have been trying to pick them from memory.

The downside to this is I play the same two songs over and over and over. I learned a new one yesterday, which is such a wonderful break from the monotony.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 08, 2017, 07:00:52 PM
To be fair, my brother is also a fairly good guitar player, so he had kind of a head start.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Dildo Argentino on March 09, 2017, 02:14:40 PM
Thank you for guiding my fingers through the maze of google to find this treasure trove (https://whenpandasattack.wordpress.com/) of fascinating information.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 09, 2017, 02:34:22 PM
Quote from: Dildo Argentino on March 09, 2017, 02:14:40 PM
Thank you for guiding my fingers through the maze of google to find this treasure trove (https://whenpandasattack.wordpress.com/) of fascinating information.

Quote41-year-old Weihua is Guangxi, so far single, undergraduate and graduate students are learning The wildlife protection professional.

Bad translation aside, I love that they felt the need to announce his relationship status.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 09, 2017, 06:49:37 PM
D&D joke, sorry. From reddit.

If jerking off with a numb hand is called "the stranger",
then jerking off with Mage Hand should be called "the familiar"


Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 09, 2017, 09:59:39 PM
So, due to me mentioning this on my work appraisal, the boss man himself emailed me to assure my that while my assistance on security and health & safety issues was appreciated, it certainly was not needed and to, politely, buzz off.

Unfortunately for him, this week someone installed a padlock on the emergency fire exit to this building, and neglected to tell any of the students the code, or put up any signs to that effect.  Unfortunately for my manager and the operations manager, who is nominally in charge of health and safety, both of them were copied into that email and were present on site since the lock was installed, and have not seemed to have any issue with the possibility of 200 students burning to death for no good reason.

So I just sent a friendly email...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 09, 2017, 10:05:11 PM
...to the hse?

Seriously, fuck these people.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 09, 2017, 10:07:59 PM
Sent to the principal in the first instance, to prove the point that he has morons in charge of things, while spurning my offer of help.

But the HSE is a good next step.  I'm sure they'd also be interested to learn that there has been no fire evacuation drill done in the past 2 years I have worked here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 09, 2017, 11:46:56 PM
Actually, fuck the hse. Just been called about a decision that should have been a serious prohibition notice (failed explosion) and it's been classed as no fault. I know the firm and I'm damn sure there's a lot of fucking faults.

Oh for a UK institution that isn't corrupt and incompetent. I'm stunned. I can't even start to cover how much of a major fuckup this one was.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 09, 2017, 11:49:44 PM
Same conversation informs me that a previous employer has been shot and killed.

Horrible bastard deserved it but still... it's interesting times round here.

ETA police appeal for info due to an wealth of suspects. This one ain't getting solved.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 10, 2017, 05:57:00 AM
Well, failed explosions aren't that important.  ISIS undertake failed explosions all the time and no-one ever drags them in front of the HSE.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 10, 2017, 05:54:02 PM
Credit where it's due, Isis bring enough explosives to get the job done. Cutting costs and misused resources for profit isn't their m.o.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2017, 08:18:48 AM
It may be soon if oil prices keep dropping  :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
Heh, Gary Brecher is liking my posts on Facebook.  About terrorism and shit.

Cain,
made it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
Heh, Gary Brecher is liking my posts on Facebook.  About terrorism and shit.

Cain,
made it.

You done did.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2017, 03:05:57 PM
I got asked to speak at a science event

Oh shit
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2017, 03:40:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
Heh, Gary Brecher is liking my posts on Facebook.  About terrorism and shit.

Cain,
made it.

That's kinda awesome, Cain.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2017, 04:14:31 PM
Yeah, it's nice to know at least one other person is thinking along similar lines as me.  I was writing my article for the law firm people this morning, about what happened in Kabul and quite frankly it's shocking.  They hit a military hospital, next to the US embassy, in central Kabul.  And ISIS in Afghanistan is nothing like ISIS in Syria and Iraq.  They barely control territory, everybody hates them...yet they were able to pull this off?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 11, 2017, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2017, 04:14:31 PM
Yeah, it's nice to know at least one other person is thinking along similar lines as me.  I was writing my article for the law firm people this morning, about what happened in Kabul and quite frankly it's shocking.  They hit a military hospital, next to the US embassy, in central Kabul.  And ISIS in Afghanistan is nothing like ISIS in Syria and Iraq.  They barely control territory, everybody hates them...yet they were able to pull this off?

I thought the method was a bit odd. I'm no expert of course, but the use of a bomber and 4 gunmen seemed like a more specifically targeted sort of method to me. I wondered if they had primary targets in mind. Sort of a "kill these specific people, then generally just kill until you catch a martyrdom" when you're not exactly sure where the targets will be.

Alternatively they only had resources for 1 bomb and are trying (successfully) to distinguish themselves...

I had no idea it was so close to a bunch of embassies and was a military hospital. Makes me wonder if maybe they had insider help. That would be most upsetting. Perhaps someone in Afghanistan's administration sees an opportunity and has made some very bad allies to help. I'm done wildly speculating, but that's some disturbing shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on March 11, 2017, 06:41:54 PM
Congrats Cain and Nigel on your respective achievements.

Nigel - what's going to be the topic?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 11, 2017, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2017, 03:05:57 PM
I got asked to speak at a science event

Oh shit

OMG That's so exciting!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 11, 2017, 08:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
Heh, Gary Brecher is liking my posts on Facebook.  About terrorism and shit.

Cain,
made it.

Awesome!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 12, 2017, 04:06:26 AM
Quote from: Xaz on March 11, 2017, 06:41:54 PM
Congrats Cain and Nigel on your respective achievements.

Nigel - what's going to be the topic?

I'm thinking either the effects of stress on neurogenesis, or else the biochemical signaling pathways through which environmental cues alter hormone levels.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 12, 2017, 06:33:23 AM
uncannily familiar: http://fourthwayschool.org/prison4.html
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on March 12, 2017, 07:17:32 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 12, 2017, 06:33:23 AM
uncannily familiar: http://fourthwayschool.org/prison4.html
Is that the O9A's logo on there...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Dildo Argentino on March 12, 2017, 10:38:09 AM
Could I have some input on this from my betters, please? https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/08/wikileaks-has-joined-the-trump-administration/ (https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/08/wikileaks-has-joined-the-trump-administration/) Is this likely to be a realistic assessment? (I mean apart from the foul language, which makes it quite clear that this is something of a partisan effort.)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 12, 2017, 02:55:03 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 12, 2017, 06:33:23 AM
uncannily familiar: http://fourthwayschool.org/prison4.html

Ooooh, derivative!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 12, 2017, 09:27:12 PM
Quote from: Dildo Argentino on March 12, 2017, 10:38:09 AM
Could I have some input on this from my betters, please? https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/08/wikileaks-has-joined-the-trump-administration/ (https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/08/wikileaks-has-joined-the-trump-administration/) Is this likely to be a realistic assessment? (I mean apart from the foul language, which makes it quite clear that this is something of a partisan effort.)

Max Boot's a neocon, general asshole and long time critic of the Tea Party/Trump wing of the party.  He writes a lot about foreign policy, but he doesn't have any specific expertise, access or knowledge regarding Wikileaks and Trump.

THAT SAID, it turns out Trump adviser Roger Stone was in contact with "Guccifer 2.0", the alleged DNC hacker and suspected FSB sockpuppet, and it also turns out that UKIP leader and noted Trump supporter Nigel Farage is in close contact with Assange.

Assange has said he would leak info on Trump's tax returns if he was presented with it...but it is interesting that hacks on Republican figures, such as Colin Powell's emails, were released on the DCLeaks website and not via Wikileaks - only the DNC and Podesta hacks got that treatment.  The RNC has claimed it has not been breached by hackers, which I find somewhat unbelievable.

And then there's the timing of the most recent CIA release by Wikileaks.  The timeframe from the tools suggest that the hack occured last year, and US investigators are working under that assumption.  The files also appear to be more curated and organised for relevance than previous leaks, such as the infamous AKP Turkey emails, which successfully turned Wikileaks into the largest database of Turkish spam emails and viruses in the world for a brief time.  That the leak, which seems to have been prepared for a while, occurs as the US intelligence community is turning up the heat on Trump seems...very beneficial for painting the CIA as nefarious actors.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 12, 2017, 09:32:35 PM
Also worth mentioning that Trump - who is usually keen to jump on Twitter and opine about everything under the sun - stayed silent on the CIA leak for 24 hours, before issuing a press statement via Spicer.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2017, 01:36:01 AM
In other news, dehydration is no joke.  I know this, I know it kills people, but I don't think I realised just how low on fluids I was getting on my day when I finish shift.  Between the messed up sleep patterns and whatever, it's way too easy to lose track of your intake.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on March 13, 2017, 09:33:36 AM
Me too, it's not nearly hot enough for me to justify substituting beer for water.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 13, 2017, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 12, 2017, 07:17:32 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 12, 2017, 06:33:23 AM
uncannily familiar: http://fourthwayschool.org/prison4.html
Is that the O9A's logo on there...

nope, that's a Fourth Way symbol, which is a seven pointed figure

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 12, 2017, 02:55:03 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 12, 2017, 06:33:23 AM
uncannily familiar: http://fourthwayschool.org/prison4.html

Ooooh, derivative!

Them or us? hahah
Gurdjieff's writings predate us by like 100 years.

I think it's another hand on the same elephant
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 13, 2017, 02:05:06 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure RAW even calls him out directly in one of the Cosmic Trigger books.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 13, 2017, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2017, 09:27:12 PMThat the leak, which seems to have been prepared for a while, occurs as the US intelligence community is turning up the heat on Trump seems...very beneficial for painting the CIA as nefarious actors.


The more I follow the news, the more insane I feel

All of the people I agreed with at the top of my lungs during the presidential primary - I am now barely speaking to.

This whole season is making madmen out of us.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2017, 02:47:10 PM
Here's some crazy for you - a Russian oligarch (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/religious-rights-billionaire-russian-ally-wants-to-make-putin-a-tsar-literally/) who wants to make Putin into a Tsar also bankrolls French, German, Italian and Austrian far-right political groups, and helps fund the war in the Donbass.

He's also very popular with the American religious right.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on March 13, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
I got called on stage during a live taping of one of my favorite podcasts on Friday.

I got asked about cockrings and had to be honest...so that's a thing.

I think the show I'm on is going to be behind a paywall, but the free eps are swell and come with a bonus of 100% less my embarrassed stammering:

http://pardcast.com/
Never Not Funny by Jimmy Pardo
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2017, 08:20:44 PM
So, after pointing out that padlocking an emergency exit without a code being provided to residents is kinda sorta against the law, three things have happened:

1) I had a perfunctory reply from the headmaster
2) I had a reply from my department manager chewing me a new one for not reporting the problem to my line manager in the first instance...the same line manager who had been here for 2 days with the issue present, and had not acted on it
3) Someone took down the sign I made next to the gate, giving residents the access code in the case of emergency.

Unfortunately for whatever idiot is involved in point 3, there is a camera looking directly at that spot, recording 24/7. And I have access to the stored video.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on March 13, 2017, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2017, 08:20:44 PM
So, after pointing out that padlocking an emergency exit without a code being provided to residents is kinda sorta against the law, three things have happened:

1) I had a perfunctory reply from the headmaster
2) I had a reply from my department manager chewing me a new one for not reporting the problem to my line manager in the first instance...the same line manager who had been here for 2 days with the issue present, and had not acted on it
3) Someone took down the sign I made next to the gate, giving residents the access code in the case of emergency.

Unfortunately for whatever idiot is involved in point 3, there is a camera looking directly at that spot, recording 24/7. And I have access to the stored video.

It seems like these people are working awfully hard to kill as many of the students as possible.

Conspiracy?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 14, 2017, 03:35:35 AM
Just too lazy to follow the damn law, which despite the whining from the Daily Mail columnists, is mostly common fucking sense.

I found video of the other night shift leader deliberately removing the code.  Now written an email to my manager regarding it, and I'm copying everything to a personal email address.  If I don't see swift action on this, I'm going to the HSE, and if they don't do something about it, the Times Educational Supplement.  They love a good story which allows them to bash stupidly expensive private schools their reading demographic cannot afford.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2017, 09:22:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2017, 01:36:01 AM
In other news, dehydration is no joke.  I know this, I know it kills people, but I don't think I realised just how low on fluids I was getting on my day when I finish shift.  Between the messed up sleep patterns and whatever, it's way too easy to lose track of your intake.

Oh shit yeah, dehydration WILL FUCK YOUR SHIT UP.

You wouldn't think that just not drinking water would be as brutal as it is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2017, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on March 13, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
I got called on stage during a live taping of one of my favorite podcasts on Friday.

I got asked about cockrings and had to be honest...so that's a thing.

I think the show I'm on is going to be behind a paywall, but the free eps are swell and come with a bonus of 100% less my embarrassed stammering:

http://pardcast.com/
Never Not Funny by Jimmy Pardo

My mind is spinning to figure out what you could possibly have said about cockrings that would be embarrassing by Portland standards. I am desperately curious now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2017, 09:24:27 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 13, 2017, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2017, 09:27:12 PMThat the leak, which seems to have been prepared for a while, occurs as the US intelligence community is turning up the heat on Trump seems...very beneficial for painting the CIA as nefarious actors.


The more I follow the news, the more insane I feel

All of the people I agreed with at the top of my lungs during the presidential primary - I am now barely speaking to.

This whole season is making madmen out of us.

I keep hoping this plot arc will turn out to be a dream.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2017, 09:25:26 PM
What asshole has two thumbs and is teaching Anatomy and Physiology next term?

This asshole right here!

At least I already know where thumbs and assholes are, so I have a head start.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on March 14, 2017, 09:53:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2017, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on March 13, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
I got called on stage during a live taping of one of my favorite podcasts on Friday.

I got asked about cockrings and had to be honest...so that's a thing.

I think the show I'm on is going to be behind a paywall, but the free eps are swell and come with a bonus of 100% less my embarrassed stammering:

http://pardcast.com/
Never Not Funny by Jimmy Pardo

My mind is spinning to figure out what you could possibly have said about cockrings that would be embarrassing by Portland standards. I am desperately curious now.

It's not so much having talked about cockring experiences in front of the couple hundred people in the Portland audience...it's having done it in front of the dozen or so staff members and house comics at the club. Should it be less embarrassing than anything I said or did a month ago when I got so shitfaced I had to leave a show? No. Will it be? Oh yes...and if it weren't otherwise, they'll all make sure it is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2017, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on March 14, 2017, 09:53:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2017, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on March 13, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
I got called on stage during a live taping of one of my favorite podcasts on Friday.

I got asked about cockrings and had to be honest...so that's a thing.

I think the show I'm on is going to be behind a paywall, but the free eps are swell and come with a bonus of 100% less my embarrassed stammering:

http://pardcast.com/
Never Not Funny by Jimmy Pardo

My mind is spinning to figure out what you could possibly have said about cockrings that would be embarrassing by Portland standards. I am desperately curious now.

It's not so much having talked about cockring experiences in front of the couple hundred people in the Portland audience...it's having done it in front of the dozen or so staff members and house comics at the club. Should it be less embarrassing than anything I said or did a month ago when I got so shitfaced I had to leave a show? No. Will it be? Oh yes...and if it weren't otherwise, they'll all make sure it is.

Ohhhhhhhh

Yeah, I can see how that would go.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 14, 2017, 10:37:51 PM
So, it turned out the manager ordered my co-worker to take the sign down.

My manager was ordered to take it down by the Head of Operations.  The insufferable know-it-all in charge of Health and Safety.

Fortunately, the gate is fixed, so the problem is solved, but unfortunately this means I cannot pursue it any further.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 14, 2017, 10:40:07 PM
:argh!:

Such a shame to see a good "let's check out the instant replay" moment go to waste
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2017, 12:13:19 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2017, 10:37:51 PM
So, it turned out the manager ordered my co-worker to take the sign down.

My manager was ordered to take it down by the Head of Operations.  The insufferable know-it-all in charge of Health and Safety.

Fortunately, the gate is fixed, so the problem is solved, but unfortunately this means I cannot pursue it any further.

Dammit.  :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 15, 2017, 12:32:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2017, 10:37:51 PM
So, it turned out the manager ordered my co-worker to take the sign down.

My manager was ordered to take it down by the Head of Operations.  The insufferable know-it-all in charge of Health and Safety.

Fortunately, the gate is fixed, so the problem is solved, but unfortunately this means I cannot pursue it any further.

Sort of. Can be useful to establish pattern of neglect and incompetence which is only addressed slowly after non responsible person points out problem.

What's the structure above head of ops? Anything substantial?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2017, 12:51:18 AM
I believe he answers to the headmaster and the board of governors.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
Hey PD, I'm not dead. I'm not on the internet a whole lot and that's working for me.

Hope you cats are doing well.  :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2017, 02:30:11 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
Hey PD, I'm not dead. I'm not on the internet a whole lot and that's working for me.

Hope you cats are doing well.  :)

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
I'm not dead

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
not on the internet a whole lot

Does not compute
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:32:34 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 15, 2017, 02:30:11 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
Hey PD, I'm not dead. I'm not on the internet a whole lot and that's working for me.

Hope you cats are doing well.  :)

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
I'm not dead

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
not on the internet a whole lot

Does not compute

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 15, 2017, 09:34:30 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 15, 2017, 12:51:18 AM
I believe he answers to the headmaster and the board of governors.

I bet the governors list is public and at least 12 people. Of which at least a couple will have an axe to grind for this clown. At least 1 should be terrified of possible legal implications, particularly after they've been notified as they can be held liable to a degree as I understand it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 15, 2017, 01:06:50 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
Hey PD, I'm not dead. I'm not on the internet a whole lot and that's working for me.

Hope you cats are doing well.  :)


                  MY CATS??
                          /
      LISTEN YOU NOISY MOTHERFUCKER----
                          /
                  MY CATS
              ARE TRYING
               TO SLEEP!!!!!!!!
                          /
(http://media.istockphoto.com/photos/furious-90-year-old-man-shouting-in-rage-picture-id617757450)

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Dildo Argentino on March 15, 2017, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2017, 09:27:12 PM
Quote from: Dildo Argentino on March 12, 2017, 10:38:09 AM
Could I have some input on this from my betters, please? https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/08/wikileaks-has-joined-the-trump-administration/ (https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/08/wikileaks-has-joined-the-trump-administration/) Is this likely to be a realistic assessment? (I mean apart from the foul language, which makes it quite clear that this is something of a partisan effort.)

Max Boot's a neocon, general asshole and long time critic of the Tea Party/Trump wing of the party.  He writes a lot about foreign policy, but he doesn't have any specific expertise, access or knowledge regarding Wikileaks and Trump.

THAT SAID, it turns out Trump adviser Roger Stone was in contact with "Guccifer 2.0", the alleged DNC hacker and suspected FSB sockpuppet, and it also turns out that UKIP leader and noted Trump supporter Nigel Farage is in close contact with Assange.

Assange has said he would leak info on Trump's tax returns if he was presented with it...but it is interesting that hacks on Republican figures, such as Colin Powell's emails, were released on the DCLeaks website and not via Wikileaks - only the DNC and Podesta hacks got that treatment.  The RNC has claimed it has not been breached by hackers, which I find somewhat unbelievable.

And then there's the timing of the most recent CIA release by Wikileaks.  The timeframe from the tools suggest that the hack occured last year, and US investigators are working under that assumption.  The files also appear to be more curated and organised for relevance than previous leaks, such as the infamous AKP Turkey emails, which successfully turned Wikileaks into the largest database of Turkish spam emails and viruses in the world for a brief time.  That the leak, which seems to have been prepared for a while, occurs as the US intelligence community is turning up the heat on Trump seems...very beneficial for painting the CIA as nefarious actors.

Thanks, Cain.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2017, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on March 15, 2017, 02:26:54 AM
Hey PD, I'm not dead. I'm not on the internet a whole lot and that's working for me.

Hope you cats are doing well.  :)

Good job not dying!

Nice to see you here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2017, 03:46:04 PM
So, the policy at the university is that there are no make-up labs or quizzes unless you have a medical issue or are on a sports team (which comes with a form you have to bring in), in which case you have to give ample notice. I had a student email me that she was going to be missing class that day, and I gave her the usual spiel about how there are no make-up labs but the lowest score will be dropped. Then, a week later, I get an email from her coach asking me to excuse her absence. This is college... there are no "excused" and "inexcused" absences, you either show up and do the work or you don't, and if you need to make up a lab, you make arrangements to make up the lab.

So I forwarded it to the professor, who told me to let her make it up.

Tomorrow is the last lab of the term, there is literally no way for her to make up the lab she missed. That would have required being proactive, and making arrangements AT THE TIME. Not on the day of the lab, when it's the last lab of the week.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2017, 06:00:59 PM
Being proactive is for chumps.  She doesn't need hard work, she has SPORTS.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2017, 09:16:12 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 15, 2017, 06:00:59 PM
Being proactive is for chumps.  She doesn't need hard work, she has SPORTS.

Since 'MERKA values sports above academics, she'll probably be just fine, and I'll probably end up being forced to let her turn in a lab report for a lab she never attended, which for anyone else would be cheating.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2017, 09:20:10 PM
Sounds about right, I heard a lot of similar stories from my American friends who were doing a year study or Masters in the UK.  I didn't realise how much money there was in college sport, and how much it corrupted the academic system, until they started telling me their personal experiences with the system.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 16, 2017, 12:06:45 AM
So, I'm walking down the street to the store, right, and I stop and say hello to a rottweiler puppy I've made friends with like I normally do if he's outside and there's no truck in the driveway. Only this time, his owner drives up as I'm petting the pupper through the fence, and I'm all :C because people can get kind of miffy about strangers petting their dogs, which you know, they have good reason to. So I give pupper one last scratch and turn to apologize to his owner as he gets out of the truck. "Sorry!" I say, "sorry, I just love your dog, he's such a sweety."

So then

he goes to the gate

and UNLOCKS AND OPENS IT

and I'm like :o IS THIS HAPPENING

and the puppy is like :O DAD KAN I PLEI WIF HER

and then I got to hug him and wrestle a bit before I went to the store. His name is Rusty. #DogsCountAsFriends


The end. C:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 16, 2017, 12:26:35 AM
 :mittens:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 06:19:08 AM
Not really sure where or how to get at this so here in the bar it is.

Over the weekend for the first time in a long time I found myself face to face with excessive thoughts and very strong impulses towards autotermination. I've been sliding downward for a while now and not necessarily dealing with it as such. I'm the stubborn sort of fool that has problems accepting my problems for what they are and worse about getting real help when it means I'd have to ask for it.

I found myself halfway into a sincere plan before I realized that I was in over my head. I'm fortunate, fucking outright just lucky, to have had a good friend that recognized this in me and insisted that I seek help through the county and this morning I got signed up for counciling, meds, insurance assistance, and may well wind up on disability benefits when all of the follow up appointments on Monday are over with.

I have a bad way of pretending everything is fine right up until I have a total breakdown, and the truth is I've been pretending for years now. I came face to face with this while trying to do the job I managed to get for myself doing for a private uniform and medical laundry service what I had done for the hospital that I snapped and walked out of a year ago almost to the day. I don't care to describe my feelings or thoughts here in any detail other than to say that I was pretty well done with everything and didn't even have the concern for the impact such a thing might have on others left in me at one point. It was by far the worst I've felt for my adult life in terms of depression and though I'm not out of the woods I'm getting help now that I denied myself for years PURELY out of asinine pride.

I don't know where my life is going now other than that for now my "job" is to do whatever it takes to get well and to follow through with my appointments and the process of getting myself whatever aid I can in the meantime. For now I'm not an immediate threat to myself or others and am coping with the state of things as well as I can until I get on meds of some sort. The folks at the health and human services department gave me a bunch of folks to call if I were to slide further or feel like I'm about to lose control. Being willing to accept help was a very big hurdle for me, but I have decided finally that if I want to live, and I do, that I don't have the power to do it alone anymore, and probably never really did so much as limp along while pretending everything is just fine, thanks.

I'll probably try to write something more up in my personal thread later more relevant to my story, but I figured that as an update from where I was or thought I was headed I should mention something to the folks here because you guys are all MEANINGFUL to me and I count no small number of you friends.

So I'm continuing on. We shall see where it goes. It's been a pretty damn long day and I need to rest, but I'll stay in touch.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 16, 2017, 08:46:58 AM
Glad you're not dead, TWJ, and sorry things are shitty. :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 02:08:10 PM
Quote from: Freeky on March 16, 2017, 08:46:58 AM
Glad you're not dead, TWJ, and sorry things are shitty. :sad:

Thanks. I'm intent on staying not dead and trying very hard to overcome the fool mentality that let me get so far gone in the first place.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
I'm glad you're okay. Please don't go to that place. How you're feeling right now isn't permanent; things will get better.

If you ever want to chat, vent, etc, swing by #discord.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
I'm glad you're okay. Please don't go to that place. How you're feeling right now isn't permanent; things will get better.

If you ever want to chat, vent, etc, swing by #discord.
I appreciate the offer. Does #discord mean the IRC or something? I'm not exactly hep to the techno slang. If it is IRC do you know of a decent client app for android?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 16, 2017, 03:36:33 PM
I am also glad you are not dead.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 03:47:00 PM
Hang in there, TWJ! I'm glad you're getting help. You can talk to us, I think that there are many people here who have been in a similar headspace.

Hang tough, my friend.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: Freeky on March 16, 2017, 12:06:45 AM
So, I'm walking down the street to the store, right, and I stop and say hello to a rottweiler puppy I've made friends with like I normally do if he's outside and there's no truck in the driveway. Only this time, his owner drives up as I'm petting the pupper through the fence, and I'm all :C because people can get kind of miffy about strangers petting their dogs, which you know, they have good reason to. So I give pupper one last scratch and turn to apologize to his owner as he gets out of the truck. "Sorry!" I say, "sorry, I just love your dog, he's such a sweety."

So then

he goes to the gate

and UNLOCKS AND OPENS IT

and I'm like :o IS THIS HAPPENING

and the puppy is like :O DAD KAN I PLEI WIF HER

and then I got to hug him and wrestle a bit before I went to the store. His name is Rusty. #DogsCountAsFriends


The end. C:

Awwwwww! That's hella cute!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
I'm glad you're okay. Please don't go to that place. How you're feeling right now isn't permanent; things will get better.

If you ever want to chat, vent, etc, swing by #discord.
I appreciate the offer. Does #discord mean the IRC or something? I'm not exactly hep to the techno slang. If it is IRC do you know of a decent client app for android?

Yeah during the 9-5 hours I'm in the IRC channel called #discord. The easiest way to find it is here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/irc/

Android clients.... there's -
- androirc, but it's shit
- andchat, but it's outdated
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 04:29:06 PM
This morning I have been watching a hilarious argument unfold, in which a German guy is patiently explaining to a Welsh woman that well, actually, Wales is a principality. He says that this is a fact because the head of state is a prince.

He even linked to this helpful Wikipedia article as proof:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Wales

I totally can't tell whether he's trolling, but this is making my morning.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on March 16, 2017, 04:41:13 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
I'm glad you're okay. Please don't go to that place. How you're feeling right now isn't permanent; things will get better.

If you ever want to chat, vent, etc, swing by #discord.
I appreciate the offer. Does #discord mean the IRC or something? I'm not exactly hep to the techno slang. If it is IRC do you know of a decent client app for android?

Yeah during the 9-5 hours I'm in the IRC channel called #discord. The easiest way to find it is here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/irc/

Android clients.... there's -
- androirc, but it's shit
- andchat, but it's outdated
If I can I'll try make the page more responsive on phones, but it might be hard as its loading that client as an external object
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 05:15:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 03:47:00 PM
Hang in there, TWJ! I'm glad you're getting help. You can talk to us, I think that there are many people here who have been in a similar headspace.

Hang tough, my friend.

I'm doing my best. Thanks Nigel. It's difficult for me to open up, but I will as things progress.

Vonnegut had a line in Galapagos that struck a bit too true to the effect that "the soul" is the part of you that realizes when your brain is not working correctly anymore.

At least now I can try getting back into the habit of reading books and trying to build an otherwise healthy lifestyle. If I find myself on disability, which is pretty likely, I'll be able to go to school when I have my other factors more stabilized, but that's going to be a fair ways further down the line now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 16, 2017, 03:36:33 PM
I am also glad you are not dead.

It does help to hear this. Thanks LMNO.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 16, 2017, 04:41:13 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
I'm glad you're okay. Please don't go to that place. How you're feeling right now isn't permanent; things will get better.

If you ever want to chat, vent, etc, swing by #discord.
I appreciate the offer. Does #discord mean the IRC or something? I'm not exactly hep to the techno slang. If it is IRC do you know of a decent client app for android?

Yeah during the 9-5 hours I'm in the IRC channel called #discord. The easiest way to find it is here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/irc/

Android clients.... there's -
- androirc, but it's shit
- andchat, but it's outdated
If I can I'll try make the page more responsive on phones, but it might be hard as its loading that client as an external object

It's cool guys. I'll eventually get to a point where I'm one of the IRC elites.

For now I'm just going to continue posting on the forum as it goes. If I need a more private chat there's always PMs. I'm in no particular rush anymore. Just got to keep plugging away.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 05:53:39 PM
For TWJ: 100% of the time, this guy cheers me up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dpNS2l7jNs

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on March 16, 2017, 06:26:30 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 16, 2017, 03:36:33 PM
I am also glad you are not dead.

It does help to hear this. Thanks LMNO.

I know I haven't had much in the way of interaction with you here (and well, it's been a rough 2 years or so, so mostly been in lurk status as it is), but glad to hear you're still with us. One of my best friends killed himself almost a year and a half ago, and it really tore so many lives apart - probably a lot more than he expected. The effects are still being felt, and will certainly be for some time to come.

I get in a bad way myself sometimes, even since then, but it's in a big way the thought of the people who will be left behind picking up the pieces, whether you believe it at the time or not, that makes it not worth it. It may sound cliché, but hang in there and know that you do matter in this world.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
Why the hell don't we address women as "mister"? It's derived from "master", and the etymology indicates nothing about gender. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=master
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 16, 2017, 07:15:29 PM
Well actually, have you tried not getting upset at this kind of stuff?  After all, women aren't natural leaders.  You should leave that up to the men; the penis determines mastery.


:asshat:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 16, 2017, 07:15:29 PM
Well actually, have you tried not getting upset at this kind of stuff?  After all, women aren't natural leaders.  You should leave that up to the men; the penis determines mastery.


:asshat:

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on March 16, 2017, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
Why the hell don't we address women as "mister"? It's derived from "master", and the etymology indicates nothing about gender. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=master
Gender etymology varies depending on the region, Dutch, French, and so on have different ways of handling to it to English.
Measter still has the eastern european feminine form which adds an a, meastra. The french just use maître, but for a lot of words they only distinguish with Le/La. 
The post grad (at least any I've seen) uses master regardless of the gender but technically Mistress should also be applicable.

Doctor who had a fun play on this two years ago where a villain The Master regenerated as a woman

The Master:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a9/9c/7f/a99c7f55bd57462681ba4fc0c43eca19.jpg)

The Mistress:
(http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Screen-Shot-2014-11-09-at-9.34.49-AM.png)

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 10:05:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2017, 05:53:39 PM
For TWJ: 100% of the time, this guy cheers me up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dpNS2l7jNs

I appreciate the thought. I think I saw him once. He was amusing at the time. The blunt truth right now is that I kinda want to clip his weird, ET fingers off and see if he can still do his "yoga" without them. Not to be all edgy, but just looking at him is like nails on a chalkboard irritating just now.

To be fair if he's still in a good mood at that point I'd be more than a little terrified of him... I strongly suspect that there may be such a thing as weaponized laughter and joy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 10:27:52 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on March 16, 2017, 06:26:30 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 16, 2017, 03:36:33 PM
I am also glad you are not dead.

It does help to hear this. Thanks LMNO.

I know I haven't had much in the way of interaction with you here (and well, it's been a rough 2 years or so, so mostly been in lurk status as it is), but glad to hear you're still with us. One of my best friends killed himself almost a year and a half ago, and it really tore so many lives apart - probably a lot more than he expected. The effects are still being felt, and will certainly be for some time to come.

I get in a bad way myself sometimes, even since then, but it's in a big way the thought of the people who will be left behind picking up the pieces, whether you believe it at the time or not, that makes it not worth it. It may sound cliché, but hang in there and know that you do matter in this world.

There is a terrible point where the effects on others can stop mattering as sad as that is to say. Thanks for the encouraging words. My hope is that with some proper medical attention I can get back to something like functionality again. I've had bipolar disorder since childhood and have been stubbornly unmedicated for nearly 8 years now.

It's kinda funny because I nearly didn't get help. The county only takes 4 new people for triage every Wed morning at 7:30am and usually they're full by 7. I and my friend arrived right at 7:30. A person had to bow out for undisclosed reasons that particular morning and it was me and another person who had arrived pretty much at the same time as "overflow" told to wait to see if someone that had gotten there before us backed out. I do believe that I held the door for them in Wisconsinite fashion. I suggested a coin flip figuring it both fair and a 50/50 chance out of something I'd rather not have done on an insane level. Who am I to say who needed the help more? The admitting nurse probably thought I was just being polite at the time and said she thought it was a good idea.

I won the toss. I hate to admit that on a disturbing level I was almost angry even though I showed no sign of it and resigned myself to having three strokes of random chance tell me that yes this was happening if you include my good fortune to have a friend both able to see through my shit and insist on me being there in the first place.

I'm going to leave off the topic for now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 16, 2017, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
Why the hell don't we address women as "mister"? It's derived from "master", and the etymology indicates nothing about gender. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=master

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TpNk4X7CI4U

I'm going to have to see this whole movie at some point, but I was reminded of this scene from seeing it on FB a long time ago.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2017, 08:03:24 AM
Day 3 of having to sleep sitting up, to avoid choking.  This is probably a permanent thing.

Don't ever let them make you old.  And if they do make you old, don't let them make you sick.  And if they DO make you sick, take my advice and drive into a bridge abutment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2017, 08:22:40 AM
I want a chair like Captain Pike's.  Except my lights are labeled "NO" and "SHUT UP".  If this is provided, I will grimace just like Captain Pike at all times, AND I will also plot your deaths, just like he would.

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c6/92/16/c692161b8af52db591852972b8a9a1de.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on March 17, 2017, 09:04:55 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
Why the hell don't we address women as "mister"? It's derived from "master", and the etymology indicates nothing about gender. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=master

If the gender nazis would just drop the SS from Mistress some sanity might prevail.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 17, 2017, 12:12:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2017, 08:03:24 AM
Day 3 of having to sleep sitting up, to avoid choking.  This is probably a permanent thing.

Don't ever let them make you old.  And if they do make you old, don't let them make you sick.  And if they DO make you sick, take my advice and drive into a bridge abutment.

That sounds like fresh hell, Roger.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 17, 2017, 01:28:33 PM
My sympathies to both Roger and TWJ.  I'm in nowhere as near as dire a state, but due to a combination of the aforementioned dehydration and another low dietary requirement, I've had a few very miserable days sleep wise.  I finished my work shift Thursday morning, slept 4 hours, as usual...and that's the last time I slept.  I've more or less got the dehydration licked, but I'm still working on the diet side of things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 17, 2017, 03:07:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 17, 2017, 01:28:33 PM
My sympathies to both Roger and TWJ.  I'm in nowhere as near as dire a state, but due to a combination of the aforementioned dehydration and another low dietary requirement, I've had a few very miserable days sleep wise.  I finished my work shift Thursday morning, slept 4 hours, as usual...and that's the last time I slept.  I've more or less got the dehydration licked, but I'm still working on the diet side of things.

I've been living mostly on trail mix, vitamin supplements, and tortillas with peanut butter, a bit of honey, and a banana rolled up in it for a couple weeks now to conserve my meager resources. Occasionally I eat a cold can of ravioli because heating it makes it taste more horrible.

... but it's not tinned vegan haggis. Even the destitute here have a certain grace afforded to them in at least that such things don't happen here in the USofA.

I hope you find some sort of food fit for human consumption over there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 17, 2017, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2017, 08:22:40 AM
I want a chair like Captain Pike's.  Except my lights are labeled "NO" and "SHUT UP".  If this is provided, I will grimace just like Captain Pike at all times, AND I will also plot your deaths, just like he would.

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c6/92/16/c692161b8af52db591852972b8a9a1de.jpg)

Can my death have some pizzazz and maybe a high splatter quotient? I want the city to try getting dried fat, blood, and implausible amounts of glitter out of the cracks in the concrete, in remembrance.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ziegejunge on March 17, 2017, 05:42:39 PM
Been out of sorts the past couple days with a nasty stomach bug and am just now seeing this.

TWJ: I am extremely glad you're still here. There are a few posters I feel special rapport with on these boards, for whatever reason, and you're one of them.

Roger, I wish I had something less trite to say that to "hang in there." Ideally, I hope you're able to heal to the point where sleeping in a sitting position is not necessary. If that is not possible, I hope you are able to at least adapt to your body's needs in a way that is more comfortable for you.

For anyone else whose maladies and/or stressors I appear to have glossed over, I hope things improve for you as well. Keep on keeping on!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 17, 2017, 11:05:08 PM
Holy Nonsense has begun crashing InDesign.

If I get hit by a bus one of you motherfuckers better finish this project.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2017, 04:30:52 AM
Quote from: LMNO on March 17, 2017, 12:12:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2017, 08:03:24 AM
Day 3 of having to sleep sitting up, to avoid choking.  This is probably a permanent thing.

Don't ever let them make you old.  And if they do make you old, don't let them make you sick.  And if they DO make you sick, take my advice and drive into a bridge abutment.

That sounds like fresh hell, Roger.

My great-great uncle, who sucked up some gas in world war I, spent the last 60 years of his life sitting up.

I just barely remember him.

If he can do it, so can I, I guess.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 18, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 16, 2017, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
Why the hell don't we address women as "mister"? It's derived from "master", and the etymology indicates nothing about gender. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=master
Gender etymology varies depending on the region, Dutch, French, and so on have different ways of handling to it to English.
Measter still has the eastern european feminine form which adds an a, meastra. The french just use maître, but for a lot of words they only distinguish with Le/La. 
The post grad (at least any I've seen) uses master regardless of the gender but technically Mistress should also be applicable.

Doctor who had a fun play on this two years ago where a villain The Master regenerated as a woman


Mistress has negative connotations in English, and besides, is a gendered term when it doesn't need to be gendered. I would prefer mister.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 18, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
Most of PD would be horrified by the amount of time I have spent in the bathroom today.  Well, maybe not Roger.  But practically everyone else.  I swear I have lost a stone in weight just through shitting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 18, 2017, 10:50:28 PM
I'd rather be shitting than what I'm doing, which is like shitting except it isn't in a toilet, it's on my computer, and instead of shit I'm squeezing out my thesis intro. Which might be shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 19, 2017, 05:03:26 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
Most of PD would be horrified by the amount of time I have spent in the bathroom today.  Well, maybe not Roger.  But practically everyone else.  I swear I have lost a stone in weight just through shitting.

Fun fact:  Since I have gone on a diabetic diet and reduced food intake, my craps are no longer a thing of legend.

I feel as if part of me has died.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 19, 2017, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 19, 2017, 05:03:26 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
Most of PD would be horrified by the amount of time I have spent in the bathroom today.  Well, maybe not Roger.  But practically everyone else.  I swear I have lost a stone in weight just through shitting.

Fun fact:  Since I have gone on a diabetic diet and reduced food intake, my craps are no longer a thing of legend.

I feel as if part of me has died.

:lulz:

The Man From Tucson stared thoughtfully into the the toilet bowl he had spent a small fortune in filthy cash on. The expectations of the 2017 crapping infrastructure requirements had been based on estimates and projections from the previous two years, and it had seemed best to make an investment where it really counted. The damn thing was engineered for an unthinkable volume requirement and through sheer decadent water volume alone cost over $1.50 just to flush in the Arizona desert.

There were handholds and hydraulically adjustable foot supports. A laser volume detection lattice would begin a pre-flush agitation if the bowl levels indicated a particularly high density factor based on ancient calculations dating back to the time of Archimedes and the countless, unlauded great Roman engineers that had kept The Empire flowing properly for over 500 years right up until Constantine fucked everything up by adopting Christianity and their suspicion of mathematics and biological squeamishness led to a centuries long decline. The damn thing was the very best that industrial science and ancient wisdom could produce, and yet after The Changes all The Good Reverend Roger had excreted had been a single simple, perfectly proportioned loaf without variation of texture or color and mass insufficient to even register on the digital console panel above the tissue extruder and bidet initialization levers.

Other people, "normal" people might have sighed, but Roger's left eyelid merely twitched slightly as he realized that he would have to initiate the flushing sequence manually because the damn thing for all its sophisticated whatnots wasn't even aware that he had poomped at all, and he had no more to contribute. He was quite sure. And so with emptiness in his guts that was more than the usual feeling post-void, but also somehow less, he turned the key that lifted the clear sapphire plate away from the green led-backlit button for the manual flush override command and pressed it. This prompted the readout on the console to display:  NO EXCRETION DETECTED. BEGIN FLUSH?  

Roger's eye twitched once more as he entered the confirmation code causing the 12 pre-flush jets to begin to prime and the vanadium steel safety lid to close. TGRR realized that 2017 was surely going to be a rather tedious year indeed as he entered the decontamination room and washed hands that barely even needed it before re-entering the rest of the house.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 19, 2017, 07:45:23 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 19, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
Most of PD would be horrified by the amount of time I have spent in the bathroom today.  Well, maybe not Roger.  But practically everyone else.  I swear I have lost a stone in weight just through shitting.

I'll raise you with "I bet you have no idea how totally a tiny human can coat themselves, the surroundings and you in shit".

A brutal round of food poisoning would have been preferable for me. At least that can be contained to a degree. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 20, 2017, 12:16:56 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 19, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
Most of PD would be horrified by the amount of time I have spent in the bathroom today.  Well, maybe not Roger.  But practically everyone else.  I swear I have lost a stone in weight just through shitting.

I'll raise you with "I bet you have no idea how totally a tiny human can coat themselves, the surroundings and you in shit".

A brutal round of food poisoning would have been preferable for me. At least that can be contained to a degree. 

:lol: Been there.



The monkey and I have two new kittens now! I was wanting to wait until I had the house cleaner, but my cousin said they had to go to the county pound in a day or two if nobody took them, so I have them now.  They are napping under my dresser and adorable.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2017, 04:07:00 PM
I'm listening to the soothing sounds of Cain killing things. Somehow I forgot how pleasant this is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2017, 10:11:36 PM
Well you'll be happy to hear I'm considering a solo playthrough of Dragon Age: Inquisition (once I decide whether I prefer to go with an assassin Archer or a Knight-Enchanter), and will probably start making Skyrim Requiem videos again once I finish rebuilding and testing my mod list.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2017, 11:06:06 PM
Work email has been "down for an hour or so" for 7 hours now  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 21, 2017, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 20, 2017, 11:06:06 PM
Work email has been "down for an hour or so" for 7 hours now  :lulz:

At least its an excuse not to have to communicate with your idiot boss?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 21, 2017, 01:55:26 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 20, 2017, 10:11:36 PM
Well you'll be happy to hear I'm considering a solo playthrough of Dragon Age: Inquisition (once I decide whether I prefer to go with an assassin Archer or a Knight-Enchanter), and will probably start making Skyrim Requiem videos again once I finish rebuilding and testing my mod list.

Oh, yes!

It's probably kind of weird, but sometimes I just put them on and let them play in lieu of music while I grade or work on stuff.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 21, 2017, 04:01:51 AM
I do the same thing with a couple of other streamers I follow, so it makes sense to me.

And sadly someone fixed the email  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 21, 2017, 01:04:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2017, 04:01:51 AM
And sadly someone fixed the email  :sad:

Just when wrong was oh so right. :(
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2017, 05:38:50 PM
I once again have a job in my field.  It comes out to the same amount as I made on the mountain, but I am only in charge of myself, and I work 2nd shift, when it's only the robots and me (and a handful of production employees, but they aren't my problem.)

The best part is, the job is making accommodations for my health issues, and has gold-plated insurance.  Horrible ancient man and advanced 6 axis robots.  I'm gonna squee.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 21, 2017, 05:58:41 PM
That's awesome, Roger.  I'm glad you found something so quickly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 21, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
Dissamble robots, use them to augment yourself and live forever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 21, 2017, 06:19:32 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 21, 2017, 05:38:50 PM
I once again have a job in my field.  It comes out to the same amount as I made on the mountain, but I am only in charge of myself, and I work 2nd shift, when it's only the robots and me (and a handful of production employees, but they aren't my problem.)

The best part is, the job is making accommodations for my health issues, and has gold-plated insurance.  Horrible ancient man and advanced 6 axis robots.  I'm gonna squee.

Huzzah!

Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
Dissamble robots, use them to augment yourself and live forever.

Pretty sure that's the origin of Gunther Hermann. This is how he gets a skull-gun.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on March 21, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
Eh, I think it might finally be curtains for me and this site: php just went full HTML.  I am writing this onnwhat looks like 2pt font in unformatted cells.  This is why I no longer write about breakdowns.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on March 21, 2017, 10:37:00 PM
try this: https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=38014.825;last_msg=1408043
and if that doesnt work shift+f5 or ctrl+r on mac and let me know if it brings it back to life.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on March 22, 2017, 02:49:25 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 21, 2017, 05:38:50 PM
I once again have a job in my field.  It comes out to the same amount as I made on the mountain, but I am only in charge of myself, and I work 2nd shift, when it's only the robots and me (and a handful of production employees, but they aren't my problem.)

The best part is, the job is making accommodations for my health issues, and has gold-plated insurance.  Horrible ancient man and advanced 6 axis robots.  I'm gonna squee.

Nice! What kind of robots you got there? I'm training on Fanucs at school right now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 22, 2017, 05:36:05 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 22, 2017, 02:49:25 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 21, 2017, 05:38:50 PM
I once again have a job in my field.  It comes out to the same amount as I made on the mountain, but I am only in charge of myself, and I work 2nd shift, when it's only the robots and me (and a handful of production employees, but they aren't my problem.)

The best part is, the job is making accommodations for my health issues, and has gold-plated insurance.  Horrible ancient man and advanced 6 axis robots.  I'm gonna squee.

Nice! What kind of robots you got there? I'm training on Fanucs at school right now.

Fanuc makes a good system.  These are Keance.  They are more or less the same, but the operating code is easier to modify, and they don't lose their points as often as Fanucs seem to.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 22, 2017, 05:36:31 AM
Quote from: LMNO on March 21, 2017, 05:58:41 PM
That's awesome, Roger.  I'm glad you found something so quickly.

Thanks.  It was beginning to get a little hairy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 22, 2017, 05:37:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
Dissamble robots, use them to augment yourself and live forever.

Or burn down the city while stomping on the fleeing citizenry.  One or the other.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 22, 2017, 10:06:14 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 22, 2017, 05:37:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
Dissamble robots, use them to augment yourself and live forever.

Or burn down the city while stomping on the fleeing citizenry.  One or the other.

Infamy is its own form of immortality.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on March 22, 2017, 10:09:15 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 22, 2017, 10:06:14 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 22, 2017, 05:37:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
Dissamble robots, use them to augment yourself and live forever.

Or burn down the city while stomping on the fleeing citizenry.  One or the other.

Infamy is its own form of immortality.
Like when Herostratus shot John Lennon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
Question for all you spags:

If you have an online friend and you are concerned that they might be bipolar, do you risk offending them and say something? Or let it be?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 22, 2017, 05:29:05 PM
I'd suggest professional help. It may be ignored but at least you'll have tried and have a clean conscience should anything happen.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 22, 2017, 06:56:59 PM
I'm not qualified to answer that Nigel. If they need help then pointing that out is what friends do, on occasion it's the last act of the friendship.


Glad to hear Roger has worthy employment once more.

For my part been through several meetings and will be seeing a weekly councilor and am 2 days into a start up on a medicine called Rexulti.. I  really wish I knew who gets paid to name these things and how much. Have an appointment to get assistance applying for disability benefits next week. Otherwise just getting by finding cleaning the dojo I live above somewhat soothing and a welcome distraction. They have wifi, a fridge, cooking gear, and exercise equipment all available to me for my simple services in cleaning the facilities. I'm getting by.


In other news... I think this writer has a point.

https://medium.com/@emilypothast/the-weirdest-possible-universe-260fa064253e#.3tgs6njt8 (https://medium.com/@emilypothast/the-weirdest-possible-universe-260fa064253e#.3tgs6njt8)

I would need some of this "Golden Ticket" spoken of to be certain.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 22, 2017, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
Question for all you spags:

If you have an online friend and you are concerned that they might be bipolar, do you risk offending them and say something? Or let it be?

Online friend? Doubt if it'd make a difference one way or another. Unless they're asking you. Upswing or downswing?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: rong on March 22, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
contrary to popular belief, bipolar people tend to commit suicide more often during the manic stage

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on March 22, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
Quote from: rong on March 22, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
contrary to popular belief, bipolar people tend to commit suicide more often during the manic stage

There's a sapolsky lecture on depression that goes into that really well. Think it was to do with psychomotive retardation (sp?) And coming out of that phase is the big danger point. Still depressed but now enough energy to do something about it, often not in a good way.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 22, 2017, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 22, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
Quote from: rong on March 22, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
contrary to popular belief, bipolar people tend to commit suicide more often during the manic stage

There's a sapolsky lecture on depression that goes into that really well. Think it was to do with psychomotive retardation (sp?) And coming out of that phase is the big danger point. Still depressed but now enough energy to do something about it, often not in a good way.

This is a big part of why suicide is considered a side effect of many antidepressants. There's a fatigue to knowing that shit will happen AGAIN. The manic phase is also when you're most likely to "snap" and act out violently towards others as well. Sometimes the compulsion to suicide is seen as a means prevent this or misguided means to "atone" after the fact. Sometimes a LONG time after the fact.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 23, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 22, 2017, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
Question for all you spags:

If you have an online friend and you are concerned that they might be bipolar, do you risk offending them and say something? Or let it be?

Online friend? Doubt if it'd make a difference one way or another. Unless they're asking you. Upswing or downswing?

Upswing. They didn't ask, or I would have just told them. It would be completely unsolicited and therefore potentially offensive.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 23, 2017, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: rong on March 22, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
contrary to popular belief, bipolar people tend to commit suicide more often during the manic stage

OH MY GOODNESS thank you for letting me know! That is certainly not a concept that was ever introduced to me in the five years I've formally studied neuroscience!












Just kidding, it was covered pretty thoroughly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 23, 2017, 04:06:15 PM
(https://global3.memecdn.com/rmx-apply-cold-water-to-burned-area_fb_1536281.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2017, 12:30:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 23, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 22, 2017, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
Question for all you spags:

If you have an online friend and you are concerned that they might be bipolar, do you risk offending them and say something? Or let it be?

Online friend? Doubt if it'd make a difference one way or another. Unless they're asking you. Upswing or downswing?

Upswing. They didn't ask, or I would have just told them. It would be completely unsolicited and therefore potentially offensive.

Lot of variables I'm not aware of but in my experience, manic phase - it'll be in one ear and out the other. If it goes in at all. Usually the time to mention it to me would have been after the party but by then the damage is done. Tough call. You're Nigel. Go with your instincts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 24, 2017, 03:59:58 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2017, 12:30:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 23, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 22, 2017, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
Question for all you spags:

If you have an online friend and you are concerned that they might be bipolar, do you risk offending them and say something? Or let it be?

Online friend? Doubt if it'd make a difference one way or another. Unless they're asking you. Upswing or downswing?

Upswing. They didn't ask, or I would have just told them. It would be completely unsolicited and therefore potentially offensive.

Lot of variables I'm not aware of but in my experience, manic phase - it'll be in one ear and out the other. If it goes in at all. Usually the time to mention it to me would have been after the party but by then the damage is done. Tough call. You're Nigel. Go with your instincts.

I think you're right about that... I don't think this is the time. I'll wait and see; if I'm right, the time will come on the downswing. Thank you!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2017, 04:04:22 AM
So I got that validation thing worked out.  Stang needs content, I need to rant.  I rant, he reads them every 3rd week or so on Hour of Slack.  I wish I could verbally rant like that guy does.  Jesus.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 24, 2017, 05:33:34 AM
Stang's definitely got a certain amount of style when it comes to delivery, and you definitely have the content.  Everyone wins
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2017, 07:06:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2017, 05:33:34 AM
Stang's definitely got a certain amount of style when it comes to delivery, and you definitely have the content.  Everyone wins

Thanks.

Been meaning to talk at you, Cain.  I've recently been keeping bad company, mostly for cash.  Strategic forecast geeks in the local private sector (unnamed, but you know where I am so you know who I'm talking about)  So what they're interested in is what I call "Lazarus Bugs".  Imagine you had a bunch of little tags of whatever, attached to objects or people of interest, but totally inert.  Composite structures, no electrical signal higher than that of a human body, etc.  The tags just sit there, kept powered by a tiny kinetic energy recovery system, but totally dormant.

Until they receive a signal.  Radio works, but it requires the system to be able to actively listen for it, right?  I mean, a powered receiver.  Gives the game away.

But a particular frequency of sound could activate one, by high frequency noise "agitating" it, by bridging or breaking a dielectric membrane inside the tag, allowing the stored KERS power to reach the operational portion of the tag.  Tag wakes up/turns active, and then...Does whatever it was designed to do.  Track location.  Listen in on conversations and upload when in range of a wifi signal.  Embed polonium or VX or some other nastiness into skin.  Fall off with a few skin cells, for later collection.  Whatever.

Hell, it also occurs to me that you could make more advanced versions that people would unknowingly eat with their food.  A little extra spice in the curry, so to speak.  Or put into their electronic devices, that would render them useless or activate a spyware routine.  Shit, it's laughs all the way down with this little beastie.

Anyway, these buttholes love this idea, and so of course it occurs to me that a (non-paid) priority would be to find a method of killing these tags.  You can't take control of them because they're stupid.  They either activate or they don't, and they only have one response to exactly one stimuli.  They're composite-bodied, so you can't fish them out electrically or magnetically.  They're visible to the naked eye (a bit smaller than a tick, probably, but who knows?  Smaller, even...or way bigger), but there would be bags of them.  You could EMP the little fuckers, but it turns out that EMP is a not so non-lethal tool to use around people.

So I'm kinda stumped here, and I think a people solution would be more effective than an engineering solution.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 24, 2017, 07:25:22 AM
Something that small...it'd be hard to counter, no way about it.  Preventative measures would be the best, but they'd be extreme and out of the range of most ordinary people - securing food supplies and preparation, air filtration, wearing gloves in uncontrolled enrivonments, avoiding crowds of people, undertaking basic counter-surveillance methods such as shopping at different stores, going at odd hours, never taking the same routes twice, using multiple dropoffs for deliveries etc.  It'd be arduous and costly, and not guaranteed to work, just to raise the opportunity cost of infection. 

And anyone important enough to do this to will have a ton of people who aren't so important but still in close contact near them, so if the aim is surveillance then it's still not surefire.  Not to mention you can use these as blackmail on people close to those people in order to have them do what you want, from surveillance to assassination.  Not as easy, more risk of discovery, but the opportunity cost is still lower than traditional methods.  Thinking on it, a Faraday Cage would, in theory, block surveillance attempts, and potentially activation (depending on type), but you can't live your life in a Faraday Cage.  Still, for circumventing attempts to listen in, it could be handy.

From what I can see, once they're in, it's game over.  Without some technological fix, some form of screening and way to ensure the damn thing stays off without EMPing it, you have to prevent that state from occuring in the first place. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2017, 07:34:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2017, 07:25:22 AM
Something that small...it'd be hard to counter, no way about it.  Preventative measures would be the best, but they'd be extreme and out of the range of most ordinary people - securing food supplies and preparation, air filtration, wearing gloves in uncontrolled enrivonments, avoiding crowds of people, undertaking basic counter-surveillance methods such as shopping at different stores, going at odd hours, never taking the same routes twice, using multiple dropoffs for deliveries etc.  It'd be arduous and costly, and not guaranteed to work, just to raise the opportunity cost of infection. 

And anyone important enough to do this to will have a ton of people who aren't so important but still in close contact near them, so if the aim is surveillance then it's still not surefire.  Not to mention you can use these as blackmail on people close to those people in order to have them do what you want, from surveillance to assassination.  Not as easy, more risk of discovery, but the opportunity cost is still lower than traditional methods.  Thinking on it, a Faraday Cage would, in theory, block surveillance attempts, and potentially activation (depending on type), but you can't live your life in a Faraday Cage.  Still, for circumventing attempts to listen in, it could be handy.

From what I can see, once they're in, it's game over.  Without some technological fix, some form of screening and way to ensure the damn thing stays off without EMPing it, you have to prevent that state from occuring in the first place.

Um.  Well.

No sense crying over spilled milk.  (No idea if they're doing anything with it, but I was paid for the basic idea and the bare bones methodology, ie, the KERS coupled with the dielectric membrane.)

And a Faraday cage wouldn't prevent activation (unless it also had some sound baffling around it), but it would prevent any broadcasts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 24, 2017, 07:51:03 AM
Yeah, there's a certain point you get to with technology where there's simply nothing you can do about it without better technology to counteract it.  Maybe some form of nanobot that aggresively hunts down inert, non-bodily matter and breaks it down for excretion...I don't know, not my field of expertise.

It's literally like trying to avoid a virus - only this is an inert virus, being spread delibrately by human actors, which increases the difficulty factor several-fold.  It's the nightmare biological terrorism/warfare scenario, only without the advantages of obvious symptoms, an adaptive virus and equally adaptive human immune system.

I would hope they have the sense to keep this kind of technology theoretical, but if anyone had thought 5 minutes about the nuclear bomb they would've kept that secret too.  There's some things you just don't want to unleash until you can adequately defend yourself against it - but by the time you can do that, the absolute advantage you had was lost.  And if humans are anything, we're short-term thinkers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 24, 2017, 01:28:00 PM
Should I be scared?

I'm scared. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 24, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
How well do they handle thermal exposure? It's not really a great option, and if they're internal or carrying neurotoxin it's not a realistic option, but having a minor scalding once a day might beat living by "Moscow rules" all of the time hoping to avoid exposure.

I find myself wondering if a laser detector like they use for checking pulse and blood O2 levels might be capable of finding the things in the blood stream. If so it might be possible to use a wide angle scanner of similar concept over food or beverage before consumption. Keeping them outside of the body as much as possible would be the priority... once in the gut or resting in the sinuses and lungs there's no amount of flushing that could get them out unless you had a solvent that will wreck them and somehow not also damage tissue too badly... and again if they're carrying a bit of death inside destroying the housing is just a premature trigger.

So... I guess we're living in a low-magic version of Shadowrun going forward. Great. :|
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2017, 02:21:48 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 24, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
How well do they handle thermal exposure? It's not really a great option, and if they're internal or carrying neurotoxin it's not a realistic option, but having a minor scalding once a day might beat living by "Moscow rules" all of the time hoping to avoid exposure.

I find myself wondering if a laser detector like they use for checking pulse and blood O2 levels might be capable of finding the things in the blood stream. If so it might be possible to use a wide angle scanner of similar concept over food or beverage before consumption. Keeping them outside of the body as much as possible would be the priority... once in the gut or resting in the sinuses and lungs there's no amount of flushing that could get them out unless you had a solvent that will wreck them and somehow not also damage tissue too badly... and again if they're carrying a bit of death inside destroying the housing is just a premature trigger.

So... I guess we're living in a low-magic version of Shadowrun going forward. Great. :|

AFAIK, these would be too large for the blood system.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2017, 02:24:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 24, 2017, 01:28:00 PM
Should I be scared?

I'm scared.

Are you scared of being run over by a driverless Uber?
Are you scared of the police being able to listen to your cell phone?
Do you still cling to the idea that a burner phone is anonymous?
Do optical license readers bug you?
Number 5 is alive.  He's been alive since the turn of the century.  Learn to love him.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 24, 2017, 02:29:29 PM
OK, so I answered "no" to the above questions.

I feel better.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2017, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 24, 2017, 02:29:29 PM
OK, so I answered "no" to the above questions.

I feel better.  Thanks.

It's why Starfleetâ„¢ is here, Citizen.  Just doin' my job.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 24, 2017, 03:12:04 PM
Just wrote about the terrorist group with the most ridiculous name - the Conspiracy of the Cells of Fire.

Fortunately there is an abbreviation, or I would've hit my word limit much quicker than planned.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 24, 2017, 03:21:21 PM
Did they declare jihad against the Chicago Manual of Style?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 24, 2017, 03:24:29 PM
Well they're Greek, and individualist anarchists, so it wouldn't surprise me either way.

Of course, that would just mean them sending a badly made firebomb in the post to where the Chicago Manual of Style lives.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 24, 2017, 03:41:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 24, 2017, 02:21:48 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 24, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
How well do they handle thermal exposure? It's not really a great option, and if they're internal or carrying neurotoxin it's not a realistic option, but having a minor scalding once a day might beat living by "Moscow rules" all of the time hoping to avoid exposure.

I find myself wondering if a laser detector like they use for checking pulse and blood O2 levels might be capable of finding the things in the blood stream. If so it might be possible to use a wide angle scanner of similar concept over food or beverage before consumption. Keeping them outside of the body as much as possible would be the priority... once in the gut or resting in the sinuses and lungs there's no amount of flushing that could get them out unless you had a solvent that will wreck them and somehow not also damage tissue too badly... and again if they're carrying a bit of death inside destroying the housing is just a premature trigger.

So... I guess we're living in a low-magic version of Shadowrun going forward. Great. :|

AFAIK, these would be too large for the blood system.

For now...

Still that's conceptually easier to deal with. If they're about the size of a grain of black pepper they could still ride almost anywhere else. The idea of (I assume) infrasonic activation of a nanomachine is still upsetting and like you said almost impossible to detect short of literally going over someone with a fine tooth comb.

It could even be a sort of defense mechanism maybe. If they can be activated that way they might be able to set them for a sort of "double click" switch. Click 1 when in the sonic area, click 2 activating the tag when you leave the sonic area.

Your guards and authorized persons know not to go in THAT ROOM and the access code for authorized persons temporarily disables the sonic.

Everyone incidentally gets a dusting if they're in certain locations, even if only on clothes or shoes. Mostly this is harmless. If the sonics are still engaged the 1st "click" activates. Once the intruder leaves the area they light up like 4th of July for tracking and you get your audio feed straight to security as well... or possibly deploy a paralytic or worse so you can just go scoop them up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on March 25, 2017, 03:48:10 AM
Re: Lazarus Bug.  Yea, they could cluster and form networks around sense organs.  Activation could occur in proximity to any microwave signal that also serves to power them, given small-size/distribution.  Otherwise, power kinetically via flexible piezo-electric diodes round joints...


And then...  Seems like nothing to do about getting this particular computer to interface with forum correctly.  Not catastrophic, just html'd php with no formatting.  I figure that since Googlee images stopped working last month, this is probably permanent.
Nothing more to report, will try to find my way back to the last thread, white sails and all.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2017, 04:02:44 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on March 25, 2017, 03:48:10 AM
Re: Lazarus Bug.  Yea, they could cluster and form networks around sense organs.  Activation could occur in proximity to any microwave signal that also serves to power them, given small-size/distribution.  Otherwise, power kinetically via flexible piezo-electric diodes round joints...

That's the idea.  Like turning the shaft of an electric motor to get power out of the leads. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on March 25, 2017, 06:22:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
Dissamble robots, use them to augment Bearman and laugh forever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on March 25, 2017, 08:02:44 PM
For a while I ignored my rage, thinking it would not shape my experiences. Then I would have small, short, intense bursts of rage.

Then I embraced it, fed off it, let it out at every opportunity. This led to bad decision making and severe burnout after a few years.

Now I look for ways to channel it, especially without strenuous work like massage to take the fight out of me. I think I will funnel it into my hatred for libertarians.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 26, 2017, 02:10:07 AM
Quote from: Salty on March 25, 2017, 08:02:44 PM
For a while I ignored my rage, thinking it would not shape my experiences. Then I would have small, short, intense bursts of rage.

Then I embraced it, fed off it, let it out at every opportunity. This led to bad decision making and severe burnout after a few years.

Now I look for ways to channel it, especially without strenuous work like massage to take the fight out of me. I think I will funnel it into my hatred for libertarians.

This is a good and worthy endeavor.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY LIBERTARIANISM, ALTY.  AS A REAL SCOTSMAN, I OBJECT TO YOUR SLANDER.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 26, 2017, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY LIBERTARIANISM, ALTY.  AS A REAL SCOTSMAN, I OBJECT TO YOUR SLANDER.

TAXATION IS THEFT (Y\N?)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 26, 2017, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY LIBERTARIANISM, ALTY.  AS A REAL SCOTSMAN, I OBJECT TO YOUR SLANDER.

TAXATION IS THEFT (Y\N?)

Obviously, taxation is rape.  And slavery.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 26, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 26, 2017, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY LIBERTARIANISM, ALTY.  AS A REAL SCOTSMAN, I OBJECT TO YOUR SLANDER.

TAXATION IS THEFT (Y\N?)

Obviously, taxation is rape.  And slavery.

Sure. But in a billion years the sun will expand to engulf the earth.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on March 26, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY LIBERTARIANISM, ALTY.  AS A REAL SCOTSMAN, I OBJECT TO YOUR SLANDER.


:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

This is their M.O.
It's like they all take a class on how to not understand logical fallacies.
And that one in particular, they just hammer into it as hard as possible, like being wrong is their endgame.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 26, 2017, 08:44:59 PM
I remember when people who were above-average, but not as smart as they thought they were, were Libertarian.

Those days are long gone.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2017, 07:31:48 AM
Something finally clicked about Tucson.

It's the city of great beginnings.  Things start off really awesome...But then they falter, stop, stagnate, and die.  Sometimes really, really quickly.  Sometimes it takes a while.

But you can't have nice things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on March 30, 2017, 10:28:47 AM
As some of you know Slaanesh has been missing from the eye of terror for some time now.  His friend Nurgle called. :( He was found dead floating in a swimming pool, buck naked with a needle sticking out of his arm/tendril
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 30, 2017, 11:43:09 AM
Oh damn, really? That sucks, sorry to hear it. :(



In other news, I guess I'm awake for the day at 3.42 am.

Freeky,
ow. tooth. codeine not help.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
sorry that was a bad 40k joke, didn't occur to me people would think its actually someone.

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 30, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
In case folks missed the other thread, I am in the market for test readers. Requirements include a working printer, 72 sheets of paper, and time to go through 285 pages of nonsense (which does sound like a lot, but remember one of the pages literally just has the word "booger" on it).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 30, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
Hung out with my labmate last night, she needed company and drinks.

Am unpleasantly reminded this morning why I don't normally do that. Hangovers suck.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 31, 2017, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 30, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
In case folks missed the other thread, I am in the market for test readers. Requirements include a working printer, 72 sheets of paper, and time to go through 285 pages of nonsense (which does sound like a lot, but remember one of the pages literally just has the word "booger" on it).

I could probably bogart my work printer for that purpose, but the earliest opportunity would be Monday evening.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 31, 2017, 01:25:06 AM
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
sorry that was a bad 40k joke, didn't occur to me people would think its actually someone.


I know, man. I was playing along. Although I can see how it might not come across that way, I'm so out of it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on March 31, 2017, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.


I have to wait for the infection to die down and then I will probably be able to function and handle leaving the house. that's on my to do list for the next week or so, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 31, 2017, 02:30:20 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on March 31, 2017, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 30, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
In case folks missed the other thread, I am in the market for test readers. Requirements include a working printer, 72 sheets of paper, and time to go through 285 pages of nonsense (which does sound like a lot, but remember one of the pages literally just has the word "booger" on it).

I could probably bogart my work printer for that purpose, but the earliest opportunity would be Monday evening.

PM for the google drive link if you're interested. I'm not on any deadline.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 03:08:58 AM
Quote from: Freeky on March 31, 2017, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.


I have to wait for the infection to die down and then I will probably be able to function and handle leaving the house. that's on my to do list for the next week or so, though.

Keep an eye on your temperature. If you run any fever at all, you need antibiotics immediately. I don't mean "in the morning" immediately, but get your ass to an ER immediately even if it means calling an ambulance -- infected teeth can turn into meningitis shockingly rapidly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on March 31, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
So, apparently people in the company I support are so used to me telling them how to do their jobs, they've started asking for it. I am a Level 1.5 Service Desk agent, without any sort of degree, and only mildly relevant certifications, and System Administrators are asking me how to do their jobs.

I've found that the key is to write professionally, and as if you are the boss, or someone higher up. When you do, it's like they blatantly ignore your Position/Title noted in your Email signature.  :lulz:

Although, this is likely only as effective as I make it sound because most of their IT department is incompetent. And the other part of their IT department is based in India, and doesn't have English as a first language, so they aren't nearly as confident in what they're saying and couldn't get anything done even if they tried.

Pro tip: If you want to work your way up in IT, look for a job for a Financial Firm. Their workers are all impatient, impulsive, and aggressive, and will let you do whatever you want in order to avoid talking about things they don't understand. All you have to do is sound confident and say technical jargon constantly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2017, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 03:08:58 AM
Quote from: Freeky on March 31, 2017, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.


I have to wait for the infection to die down and then I will probably be able to function and handle leaving the house. that's on my to do list for the next week or so, though.

Keep an eye on your temperature. If you run any fever at all, you need antibiotics immediately. I don't mean "in the morning" immediately, but get your ass to an ER immediately even if it means calling an ambulance -- infected teeth can turn into meningitis shockingly rapidly.

This.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on March 31, 2017, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on March 31, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
So, apparently people in the company I support are so used to me telling them how to do their jobs, they've started asking for it. I am a Level 1.5 Service Desk agent, without any sort of degree, and only mildly relevant certifications, and System Administrators are asking me how to do their jobs.

I've found that the key is to write professionally, and as if you are the boss, or someone higher up. When you do, it's like they blatantly ignore your Position/Title noted in your Email signature.  :lulz:

Although, this is likely only as effective as I make it sound because most of their IT department is incompetent. And the other part of their IT department is based in India, and doesn't have English as a first language, so they aren't nearly as confident in what they're saying and couldn't get anything done even if they tried.

Pro tip: If you want to work your way up in IT, look for a job for a Financial Firm. Their workers are all impatient, impulsive, and aggressive, and will let you do whatever you want in order to avoid talking about things they don't understand. All you have to do is sound confident and say technical jargon constantly.

This is one of the core secrets in business.  And a huge disadvantage to anyone who was unable to learn "traditional" (i.e. "white middle/upper class") communication skills.  Privilege - it's sneaky.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on March 31, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 31, 2017, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on March 31, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
So, apparently people in the company I support are so used to me telling them how to do their jobs, they've started asking for it. I am a Level 1.5 Service Desk agent, without any sort of degree, and only mildly relevant certifications, and System Administrators are asking me how to do their jobs.

I've found that the key is to write professionally, and as if you are the boss, or someone higher up. When you do, it's like they blatantly ignore your Position/Title noted in your Email signature.  :lulz:

Although, this is likely only as effective as I make it sound because most of their IT department is incompetent. And the other part of their IT department is based in India, and doesn't have English as a first language, so they aren't nearly as confident in what they're saying and couldn't get anything done even if they tried.

Pro tip: If you want to work your way up in IT, look for a job for a Financial Firm. Their workers are all impatient, impulsive, and aggressive, and will let you do whatever you want in order to avoid talking about things they don't understand. All you have to do is sound confident and say technical jargon constantly.

This is one of the core secrets in business.  And a huge disadvantage to anyone who was unable to learn "traditional" (i.e. "white middle/upper class") communication skills.  Privilege - it's sneaky.

Yeah, I feel really bad for the India-based teams. They have the best manners and are incredibly knowledge-hungry, but that language barrier makes it impossible for the rest of the advantage to work itself out.

I never actually realized how important English class was to success until I started working in a professional environment. I'm considering going back to some of the schools I went to and giving talks that emphasize that fact. Especially to the underprivileged schools.

I know that when we had speakers come in and tell us about what made them successful in the real world, it was always influential and eye-opening. We all loved it and learned from it. I would hope that if the kids learned anything, it would be that Language Arts is the most effective way to hold people's attention and convince people of your worth in a professional environment. If you can bullshit with confidence, you can run the world. And the cool part is, you can use current politics as an example, and most of the kids, regardless of age, would know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
Now I have to make a choice.

Start the robotics job on Monday, or go to work full-time for the NGO for whom I've been doing bits and pieces?  They have just taken over the running of a research facility on the other side of town, and they want me running the facilities.

I'm leaning toward the NGO, for multiple reasons, not least of which is I can see my old job from there, and I can watch it rot away due to Lilly's abject failure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2017, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 31, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
Now I have to make a choice.

Start the robotics job on Monday, or go to work full-time for the NGO for whom I've been doing bits and pieces?  They have just taken over the running of a research facility on the other side of town, and they want me running the facilities.

I'm leaning toward the NGO, for multiple reasons, not least of which is I can see my old job from there, and I can watch it rot away due to Lilly's abject failure.

If both are sufficient and equivalent in compensation then I guess the question is which will be most tolerable to you day after day? All thoughts of wat hing others rot aside because that's only a temporary joy which is in and of itself something that you want to be doing?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2017, 08:01:03 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2017, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 31, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
Now I have to make a choice.

Start the robotics job on Monday, or go to work full-time for the NGO for whom I've been doing bits and pieces?  They have just taken over the running of a research facility on the other side of town, and they want me running the facilities.

I'm leaning toward the NGO, for multiple reasons, not least of which is I can see my old job from there, and I can watch it rot away due to Lilly's abject failure.

If both are sufficient and equivalent in compensation then I guess the question is which will be most tolerable to you day after day? All thoughts of wat hing others rot aside because that's only a temporary joy which is in and of itself something that you want to be doing?

The NGO is more money, but nothing new to learn.  But it is going to be a rolling disaster for a while, as the previous owners cheaped out on the water plant and other infrastructure.

And watching Lilly's epic monument to failure will never get old.

Thanks, you have helped me reach a decision.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2017, 08:05:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 31, 2017, 08:01:03 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2017, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 31, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
Now I have to make a choice.

Start the robotics job on Monday, or go to work full-time for the NGO for whom I've been doing bits and pieces?  They have just taken over the running of a research facility on the other side of town, and they want me running the facilities.

I'm leaning toward the NGO, for multiple reasons, not least of which is I can see my old job from there, and I can watch it rot away due to Lilly's abject failure.

If both are sufficient and equivalent in compensation then I guess the question is which will be most tolerable to you day after day? All thoughts of wat hing others rot aside because that's only a temporary joy which is in and of itself something that you want to be doing?

The NGO is more money, but nothing new to learn.  But it is going to be a rolling disaster for a while, as the previous owners cheaped out on the water plant and other infrastructure.

And watching Lilly's epic monument to failure will never get old.

Thanks, you have helped me reach a decision.   :lulz:

:) Just doing the Socratic thing. Happy to be of assistance.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 10:49:26 PM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on March 31, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 31, 2017, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on March 31, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
So, apparently people in the company I support are so used to me telling them how to do their jobs, they've started asking for it. I am a Level 1.5 Service Desk agent, without any sort of degree, and only mildly relevant certifications, and System Administrators are asking me how to do their jobs.

I've found that the key is to write professionally, and as if you are the boss, or someone higher up. When you do, it's like they blatantly ignore your Position/Title noted in your Email signature.  :lulz:

Although, this is likely only as effective as I make it sound because most of their IT department is incompetent. And the other part of their IT department is based in India, and doesn't have English as a first language, so they aren't nearly as confident in what they're saying and couldn't get anything done even if they tried.

Pro tip: If you want to work your way up in IT, look for a job for a Financial Firm. Their workers are all impatient, impulsive, and aggressive, and will let you do whatever you want in order to avoid talking about things they don't understand. All you have to do is sound confident and say technical jargon constantly.

This is one of the core secrets in business.  And a huge disadvantage to anyone who was unable to learn "traditional" (i.e. "white middle/upper class") communication skills.  Privilege - it's sneaky.

Yeah, I feel really bad for the India-based teams. They have the best manners and are incredibly knowledge-hungry, but that language barrier makes it impossible for the rest of the advantage to work itself out.

I never actually realized how important English class was to success until I started working in a professional environment. I'm considering going back to some of the schools I went to and giving talks that emphasize that fact. Especially to the underprivileged schools.

I know that when we had speakers come in and tell us about what made them successful in the real world, it was always influential and eye-opening. We all loved it and learned from it. I would hope that if the kids learned anything, it would be that Language Arts is the most effective way to hold people's attention and convince people of your worth in a professional environment. If you can bullshit with confidence, you can run the world. And the cool part is, you can use current politics as an example, and most of the kids, regardless of age, would know what you're talking about.

Very true. I think this is one of the reasons you so often find English majors in management positions.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
I decided to try a new brand of boots, since my non-waterproof Frye field boots didn't work out quite so well in Manitoba (when I bought them, and it was a killer deal so no regrets, but I wasn't totally anticipating my "field" to be an abandoned gravel mine an hour north of Winnipeg). So I spot these Ad-Tec boots on sale for about $60, and I figured I'd go for it. They arrived yesterday, and today was my first full day in them... I think they're gonna work out just fine. Nice thick top-grain leather, very deeply lugged soles, decent padding. I can see where they cut corners to keep them cheap, since they're unlined and the welt is plastic rather than leather, but if these last a couple of field seasons in the snake mines, I might just have a new favorite field boot.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 01, 2017, 12:00:13 AM
Trying to do creative work feels like airing up a tire with a rather large hole in it.  :kingmeh:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 01, 2017, 04:50:04 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 03:08:58 AM
Quote from: Freeky on March 31, 2017, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.


I have to wait for the infection to die down and then I will probably be able to function and handle leaving the house. that's on my to do list for the next week or so, though.

Keep an eye on your temperature. If you run any fever at all, you need antibiotics immediately. I don't mean "in the morning" immediately, but get your ass to an ER immediately even if it means calling an ambulance -- infected teeth can turn into meningitis shockingly rapidly.

Oh yeah, I've been taking them. It's already helping, and I feel basically almost normal. I'm not gonna stop taking them because I am not the dumb and know I have to take the whole series, though.  :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 01, 2017, 05:02:23 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
I decided to try a new brand of boots, since my non-waterproof Frye field boots didn't work out quite so well in Manitoba (when I bought them, and it was a killer deal so no regrets, but I wasn't totally anticipating my "field" to be an abandoned gravel mine an hour north of Winnipeg). So I spot these Ad-Tec boots on sale for about $60, and I figured I'd go for it. They arrived yesterday, and today was my first full day in them... I think they're gonna work out just fine. Nice thick top-grain leather, very deeply lugged soles, decent padding. I can see where they cut corners to keep them cheap, since they're unlined and the welt is plastic rather than leather, but if these last a couple of field seasons in the snake mines, I might just have a new favorite field boot.

Neat!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 01, 2017, 06:40:50 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 01, 2017, 04:50:04 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 03:08:58 AM
Quote from: Freeky on March 31, 2017, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.


I have to wait for the infection to die down and then I will probably be able to function and handle leaving the house. that's on my to do list for the next week or so, though.

Keep an eye on your temperature. If you run any fever at all, you need antibiotics immediately. I don't mean "in the morning" immediately, but get your ass to an ER immediately even if it means calling an ambulance -- infected teeth can turn into meningitis shockingly rapidly.

Oh yeah, I've been taking them. It's already helping, and I feel basically almost normal. I'm not gonna stop taking them because I am not the dumb and know I have to take the whole series, though.  :)

Good! Glad you have antibiotics to fight the infection.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 01, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
I think I just decided to go back to sea.

I'm gonna quit smoking pot after I finish my meager stash this weekend. I'm a candidate for a promotion to a managerial spot at my current job, which would maybe be enough money to convince me to stick around, but I'm unlikely to get the spot as a first-time candidate in a company where there are going to be long-time employees fighting tooth and nail for the position. But one of my old AUTEC buddies from the Phoenix days works for a company that does long-distance ocean tug runs to Alaska and Honolulu. Said company just happens to be based in my city. I already have a current TWIC card so I just need to pass a piss test, get a sea time letter from my old captain, and fill out some forms and pay some fees and get my MMC as an A/B. I'd basically be doubling my income immediately and it's a union gig (IBU - awesome union) so the benefits are as good or better than my current amazing benefits package.

Downside, of course, is being out at sea for a month+ at a time away from my kid. But she's young enough that this will just be normal to her pretty quickly and when I'm home for a month I'll be able to spend all the time with her. And be able to pay for daycare. And eventually a good school, since that'll be a thing by then. And a house with a yard.

And I'll get to cook whatever I want with an essentially unlimited food budget. And nobody is more appreciative of good food than sailors. Sounds like I'd mostly just be cooking during transits and maybe standing the occasional watch once they're convinced I'm not a total fuck-up, but I'd have to do deckwork when we're in port loading and unloading cargo. That's actually awesome because under the union contract, any time spent working with cargo on deck is an extra $20 an hour on top of whatever your day rate is.

Their work schedule starts really picking up in May and June so I'm gonna make sure I can pee clean by early May with an eye towards getting to the USCG Rec Center before Memorial Day weekend to finish the process and be ready to ship out at the start of June when my daughter's mom will be done with school for the summer.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on April 01, 2017, 11:52:11 PM
Wake me up when the hippies come back.

Im tired of this shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on April 02, 2017, 12:04:52 AM
My mother blocked me on FB after she blew up my phone about wanting me to give her a reason why I didn't want the family to visit because it's evidently an affront to god that I didn't immediately respond to her.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 02, 2017, 04:18:44 AM
Quote from: Meunster on April 01, 2017, 11:52:11 PM
Wake me up when the hippies come back.

Im tired of this shit.

The hippies all got old and started worshiping "kek" and encouraging the youth to sell out as well.

You're just going to have to stay asleep Meunster. Sorry. The hippies are all gone forevers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 02, 2017, 05:35:12 AM
That sounds pretty cool, ECH, good luck!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on April 03, 2017, 03:12:45 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 02, 2017, 04:18:44 AM
Quote from: Meunster on April 01, 2017, 11:52:11 PM
Wake me up when the hippies come back.

Im tired of this shit.

The hippies all got old and started worshiping "kek" and encouraging the youth to sell out as well.

You're just going to have to stay asleep Meunster. Sorry. The hippies are all gone forevers.

Works for me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on April 03, 2017, 07:40:35 AM
Opened the fuel center this morning. Was counting the money from the day before. found some counterfeit hundreds. Called management, they came and confirmed they were counterfeit, and took them back to the store with them. Went back to counting money, found more... a lot more. Looks like an inside job. Only 3 people worked the day before: the lead who has been a trusted employee for over 30 years, me, and the new guy, who closed that night. All the dirty drops were his. His first drop of the day was a bag with 25 identical $20 bills, all with the same serial number, made during the 20 minutes that I was out on a break which I took as soon as he came in.

He was supposed to close tonight, but called out.


ETA:

While filling out the date on the deposit slip for what was left of real money, I realized all of this had happened on April 1st.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 03, 2017, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 01, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
I think I just decided to go back to sea.

I'm gonna quit smoking pot after I finish my meager stash this weekend. I'm a candidate for a promotion to a managerial spot at my current job, which would maybe be enough money to convince me to stick around, but I'm unlikely to get the spot as a first-time candidate in a company where there are going to be long-time employees fighting tooth and nail for the position. But one of my old AUTEC buddies from the Phoenix days works for a company that does long-distance ocean tug runs to Alaska and Honolulu. Said company just happens to be based in my city. I already have a current TWIC card so I just need to pass a piss test, get a sea time letter from my old captain, and fill out some forms and pay some fees and get my MMC as an A/B. I'd basically be doubling my income immediately and it's a union gig (IBU - awesome union) so the benefits are as good or better than my current amazing benefits package.

Downside, of course, is being out at sea for a month+ at a time away from my kid. But she's young enough that this will just be normal to her pretty quickly and when I'm home for a month I'll be able to spend all the time with her. And be able to pay for daycare. And eventually a good school, since that'll be a thing by then. And a house with a yard.

And I'll get to cook whatever I want with an essentially unlimited food budget. And nobody is more appreciative of good food than sailors. Sounds like I'd mostly just be cooking during transits and maybe standing the occasional watch once they're convinced I'm not a total fuck-up, but I'd have to do deckwork when we're in port loading and unloading cargo. That's actually awesome because under the union contract, any time spent working with cargo on deck is an extra $20 an hour on top of whatever your day rate is.

Their work schedule starts really picking up in May and June so I'm gonna make sure I can pee clean by early May with an eye towards getting to the USCG Rec Center before Memorial Day weekend to finish the process and be ready to ship out at the start of June when my daughter's mom will be done with school for the summer.

This sounds like a good plan... it'll suck missing your kid for chunks of time, but to be able to provide financial security and a permanent home will be so so worth it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 03, 2017, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 03, 2017, 07:40:35 AM
Opened the fuel center this morning. Was counting the money from the day before. found some counterfeit hundreds. Called management, they came and confirmed they were counterfeit, and took them back to the store with them. Went back to counting money, found more... a lot more. Looks like an inside job. Only 3 people worked the day before: the lead who has been a trusted employee for over 30 years, me, and the new guy, who closed that night. All the dirty drops were his. His first drop of the day was a bag with 25 identical $20 bills, all with the same serial number, made during the 20 minutes that I was out on a break which I took as soon as he came in.

He was supposed to close tonight, but called out.


ETA:

While filling out the date on the deposit slip for what was left of real money, I realized all of this had happened on April 1st.

:horrormirth:

Wow

If he didn't get hired using a fake ID and SS# he is so going to prison.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 03, 2017, 04:12:57 PM
We spent the weekend gardening our hearts out, building planter boxes and moving raspberries and putting in tiny wee shrubberies and burning scrap wood. One of the new neighbors in the townhomes decided to stick his head out the window and question whether we were supposed to have a fire going, and not-so-subtly threatened to call the cops -- "I'm not sure if there are ordinances..." -- but shut up when I told him that I had the fire department come out and verify placement of my firepit when I put it in. What I should have let him know is that there ARE ordinances regarding peeping. We fully intend to spend most of the summer naked in our back yard, and if the old coot has a problem with that he can suck it. I hope it gives him a stroke.

So now we have two sets of nosy neighbors. Next on the list: a camellia and some columnar holly trees or arborvitae to block their stupid nosy views.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ziegejunge on April 03, 2017, 06:10:24 PM
Nosy neighbors are a pox.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 03, 2017, 06:34:08 PM
View them as an opportunity and it's more fun.

Been practicing your blood curdling scream lately? Bet you haven't.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on April 03, 2017, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 03, 2017, 06:34:08 PM
View them as an opportunity and it's more fun.

Been practicing your blood curdling scream lately? Bet you haven't.

Heh, we had a teenaged girl sleepover the other night. That's probably what's caused the new nosy neighbor to show interest.

There was much screaming and assorted animal noises and OMGs along with the fire. one of them kept signing "I will always love you" at full volume every so often.

Then they made a large pentagram out of scrap wood.

You know, girl stuff.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on April 03, 2017, 07:24:58 PM
We're no longer the Worst Forum on the Internet.

Sad!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 03, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Quote from: Salty on April 03, 2017, 07:24:58 PM
We're no longer the Worst Forum on the Internet.

Sad!

:crankey: WHO'S SPREADING THIS FILTHY GARBAGE??!!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 03, 2017, 07:38:07 PM
Nonsense spread by msm and reptoids. Full evidence coming over the next week, will prove all our phones are tapped by sick people. You know who I mean. Bad! It's worse than that event. Terrible! Still no vivisection on Roger, need credible explanation! Mad!



Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on April 03, 2017, 08:00:06 PM
Quote from: Salty on April 03, 2017, 07:24:58 PM
We're no longer the Worst Forum on the Internet.

Sad!

Aww no, we're onto page 2 despite the fact that this is the worst forum on the internet
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 03, 2017, 09:59:05 PM
UGH, we can't even hold on to that one measly claim to fame? This must be the worst forum on the internet! :(
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 03, 2017, 10:22:53 PM
Would you guys say we're the worst forum on the internet? I would.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on April 03, 2017, 10:33:58 PM
If the Universe is Collectively Autocatalytic, then we're either a simulation in the Matrix, or we're in one of many universes feeding off of each other's waste.

In other news: WE'RE SECRETLY THE WORST FORUM ON THE INTERNET
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 04, 2017, 02:10:38 AM
We need more BAD POETRY!!!
:walken:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on April 04, 2017, 07:29:20 PM
 :horror:
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 03, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Quote from: Salty on April 03, 2017, 07:24:58 PM
We're no longer the Worst Forum on the Internet.

Sad!

:crankey: WHO'S SPREADING THIS FILTHY GARBAGE??!!!


Forum's half-working again for me, toxicity levels back to near diabolical.  Got the formatting back, just can't see any profile pics no more.  Fine with me, and, apologies for the temporary loss of stature that occurred pendant my absence.  I make a point of reputation, serious business that is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on April 04, 2017, 08:42:15 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 04, 2017, 07:29:20 PM
:horror:
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 03, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Quote from: Salty on April 03, 2017, 07:24:58 PM
We're no longer the Worst Forum on the Internet.

Sad!

:crankey: WHO'S SPREADING THIS FILTHY GARBAGE??!!!


Forum's half-working again for me, toxicity levels back to near diabolical.  Got the formatting back, just can't see any profile pics no more.  Fine with me, and, apologies for the temporary loss of stature that occurred pendant my absence.  I make a point of reputation, serious business that is.

That... shouldnt be happening, what url are you using for the site?
Could you try https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php and if that doesn't work could you try view on private browsing and see if it still has the same problem?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 05, 2017, 09:03:08 PM
Apparently have a new specific project with the law company/private intelligence company I'm working for.  So far I've just been doing bit pieces of analysis relating to our overall corporate interests as and when the whim has struck me, but now they want me working on something.  Involving, of course, the Balkans and organised crime.

Well at least it's more interesting than listening to the whining of children, or the whining of management at the other job.  Incidentally, I had a horrifying realisation the other day.  I've finally realised why, apart from the fact it's just pretty mediocre on every level, I've not been enjoying Mass Effect Andromeda.  Tann and Addison, the director of the Initiative and director of Colonial Affairs, remind me too much of management here, the backstabbing, the incompetence, the political games...and just like in real life, there is no option to throw them out an airlock in the game.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on April 05, 2017, 10:57:38 PM
Hi there Faust, I tried the https, and then could not input reply.  As for private browsing, the logs may show me using safari or whatever, but it's not really, no private browsing option. Just pathologically high levels of compartmentalization right here... Anyone know what this "BAIL" lever does in the airlock?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2017, 11:23:36 PM
I'm walking the raggedy edge of burnout. It's the first week of the term, but I haven't had a break since... shit.

I don't know when I last had a break.

I don't even have real weekends anymore.

Good think I'm presenting to my graduate committee next week, that'll be great I'm sure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 06, 2017, 04:59:01 AM
I have the pregnants.

Having a problem with maintaining weight.  I can't quite lose weight when I want to but now I'm dropping it when I'm supposed to be gaining.   :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2017, 05:05:11 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 06, 2017, 04:59:01 AM
I have the pregnants.

Congratulations!  If congratulations are in order, I mean.

QuoteHaving a problem with maintaining weight.  I can't quite lose weight when I want to but now I'm dropping it when I'm supposed to be gaining.   :argh!:

:sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 06, 2017, 05:18:56 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 06, 2017, 05:05:11 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 06, 2017, 04:59:01 AM
I have the pregnants.

Congratulations!  If congratulations are in order, I mean.



Thanks, I'll take em :).  Wasn't exactly planned, but rolling with it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 06, 2017, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 06, 2017, 04:59:01 AM
I have the pregnants.

Having a problem with maintaining weight.  I can't quite lose weight when I want to but now I'm dropping it when I'm supposed to be gaining.   :argh!:

Congratulations! I hope you start gaining soon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 06, 2017, 05:18:56 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 06, 2017, 05:05:11 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 06, 2017, 04:59:01 AM
I have the pregnants.

Congratulations!  If congratulations are in order, I mean.



Thanks, I'll take em :).  Wasn't exactly planned, but rolling with it.

:lol:  That's the spirit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
So, I just got the email this morning.  I start for the NGO on Monday.  Well, technically, for one of the masters of the NGO, a big multinational.  But I give the results of my work to the NGO, and they decide if I'm still getting a cheque, so it's mostly the same thing.

I will be - in name - running the infrastructure of a research facility.  Roads, sewers, water, electrical, even landscaping and janitorial (their electrical comes in from offsite at 13.8k and gets distributed.  Their water is well water and catchments.  Their sanitation is processed on site.  It's a big joint.  While I will be doing that, what I am actually supposed to be doing is finding out how water and sanitation systems can fail.

I basically have a job studying DOOM.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on April 06, 2017, 04:06:11 PM
You seem perfectly suited to this task.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 06, 2017, 04:45:25 PM
I realllly want to put new floors in the kitchen, but I have no idea when I'll actually have time to do it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2017, 04:54:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 06, 2017, 04:06:11 PM
You seem perfectly suited to this task.

It's sort of my dream job.  It's the mountain without pesky astronomers.  I mean, the scientists are THERE, but they're all in big tall buildings and I don't have to deal with many of them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 06, 2017, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 06, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
So, I just got the email this morning.  I start for the NGO on Monday.  Well, technically, for one of the masters of the NGO, a big multinational.  But I give the results of my work to the NGO, and they decide if I'm still getting a cheque, so it's mostly the same thing.

I will be - in name - running the infrastructure of a research facility.  Roads, sewers, water, electrical, even landscaping and janitorial (their electrical comes in from offsite at 13.8k and gets distributed.  Their water is well water and catchments.  Their sanitation is processed on site.  It's a big joint.  While I will be doing that, what I am actually supposed to be doing is finding out how water and sanitation systems can fail.

I basically have a job studying DOOM.   :lulz:

How many scenarios can you come up with that involve "infrastructure eaten by wildlife" ?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 06, 2017, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 06, 2017, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 06, 2017, 04:59:01 AM
I have the pregnants.

Having a problem with maintaining weight.  I can't quite lose weight when I want to but now I'm dropping it when I'm supposed to be gaining.   :argh!:

Congratulations! I hope you start gaining soon.

My desk at work looks like a small convenience store, so think I can do it :D
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2017, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 06, 2017, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 06, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
So, I just got the email this morning.  I start for the NGO on Monday.  Well, technically, for one of the masters of the NGO, a big multinational.  But I give the results of my work to the NGO, and they decide if I'm still getting a cheque, so it's mostly the same thing.

I will be - in name - running the infrastructure of a research facility.  Roads, sewers, water, electrical, even landscaping and janitorial (their electrical comes in from offsite at 13.8k and gets distributed.  Their water is well water and catchments.  Their sanitation is processed on site.  It's a big joint.  While I will be doing that, what I am actually supposed to be doing is finding out how water and sanitation systems can fail.

I basically have a job studying DOOM.   :lulz:

How many scenarios can you come up with that involve "infrastructure eaten by wildlife" ?

More than you'd be comfortable with.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 07, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Apparently, this position is "business casual", which is to say "not casual at all".

Off to buy human clothes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 07, 2017, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Apparently, this position is "business casual", which is to say "not casual at all".

Off to buy human clothes.

Is this lizard people slang for new flesh covering?

Could I suggest one slightly less...Cornish?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 03:16:41 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Apparently, this position is "business casual", which is to say "not casual at all".

Off to buy human clothes.

Oh no.

This will end poorly for someone. Probably multiple people.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 07, 2017, 04:23:41 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on April 07, 2017, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Apparently, this position is "business casual", which is to say "not casual at all".

Off to buy human clothes.

Is this lizard people slang for new flesh covering?

Could I suggest one slightly less...Cornish?

So, no rubber boots and scarves on the head, then?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 07, 2017, 04:24:05 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 03:16:41 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Apparently, this position is "business casual", which is to say "not casual at all".

Off to buy human clothes.

Oh no.

This will end poorly for someone. Probably multiple people.

My boss is adorable.  Everything will be fine.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 05:16:30 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Apparently, this position is "business casual", which is to say "not casual at all".

Off to buy human clothes.

Dress for the job you want. *Looks at own avatar in horrific shame*

In other news found a beer cheaper than Old Milwaukee on sale! $10 30 Pk of Hamm's


... gonna get Hammered.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 07, 2017, 05:44:11 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 05:16:30 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Apparently, this position is "business casual", which is to say "not casual at all".

Off to buy human clothes.

Dress for the job you want. *Looks at own avatar in horrific shame*

In other news found a beer cheaper than Old Milwaukee on sale! $10 30 Pk of Hamm's


... gonna get Hammered.

They still make that horrible shit?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 05:44:11 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 05:16:30 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Apparently, this position is "business casual", which is to say "not casual at all".

Off to buy human clothes.

Dress for the job you want. *Looks at own avatar in horrific shame*

In other news found a beer cheaper than Old Milwaukee on sale! $10 30 Pk of Hamm's


... gonna get Hammered.

They still make that horrible shit?

Yup. It's not as bad as some things, but almost impossible to drink enough to get really drunk on due to the frothy tase of hops and shame. In fairness I wasn't drinking it alone, and have about 19 left, but it's like I'd need to really COMMIT to the deed to down enough to get properly hammered. I did get a pleasant evening's conversation but that had more to do with the company than the beverage choice.

Maybe this weekend I'll really put some away. It's almost like the beer equivalent of self shaming, but not even having the decency to be truly unpleasant to imbibe in the way that say Steel Reserve or even Old English would be. It's painfully plain. We'll see how the hangover treats me, but I'm not expecting anything worth writing home about.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on April 07, 2017, 12:28:16 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 09:05:00 AM


Yup. It's not as bad as some things, but almost impossible to drink enough to get really drunk on due to the frothy tase of hops and shame. In fairness I wasn't drinking it alone, and have about 19 left, but it's like I'd need to really COMMIT to the deed to down enough to get properly hammered. I did get a pleasant evening's conversation but that had more to do with the company than the beverage choice.

Maybe this weekend I'll really put some away. It's almost like the beer equivalent of self shaming, but not even having the decency to be truly unpleasant to imbibe in the way that say Steel Reserve or even Old English would be. It's painfully plain. We'll see how the hangover treats me, but I'm not expecting anything worth writing home about.


Have you tried the Steel Reserve "Alloy Series" drinks, yet? 16 oz @ 8%.  Beer store by my house has them for $.99.

I like the purple one. Goes well with Spaghetti-Os and Beanie weenies from the Dollar General next door.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 03:22:46 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 07, 2017, 12:28:16 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 09:05:00 AM


Yup. It's not as bad as some things, but almost impossible to drink enough to get really drunk on due to the frothy tase of hops and shame. In fairness I wasn't drinking it alone, and have about 19 left, but it's like I'd need to really COMMIT to the deed to down enough to get properly hammered. I did get a pleasant evening's conversation but that had more to do with the company than the beverage choice.

Maybe this weekend I'll really put some away. It's almost like the beer equivalent of self shaming, but not even having the decency to be truly unpleasant to imbibe in the way that say Steel Reserve or even Old English would be. It's painfully plain. We'll see how the hangover treats me, but I'm not expecting anything worth writing home about.


Have you tried the Steel Reserve "Alloy Series" drinks, yet? 16 oz @ 8%.  Beer store by my house has them for $.99.

I like the purple one. Goes well with Spaghetti-Os and Beanie weenies from the Dollar General next door.
I've never seen it in Wisconsin. You can get a 4loko for about two bucks, and a 24 od redd's wicked ale for 2.50 per at 8%.

Even my hangover is disappointing. But at .33 cents per can on sale I don't have much complaint coming.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2017, 04:50:57 PM
I remember when ECH was reviewing shitty 4loko flavours.  Dark times, man, dark times.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 07, 2017, 04:50:57 PM
I remember when ECH was reviewing shitty 4loko flavours.  Dark times, man, dark times.

I spotted a "gold" 4loko flavor in the walk-in beer cooler at the grocery store. I was tempted, but upon seeing the 30pk for $10 I knew where the Hand of Fate was leading me... to a bland mediocrity. Cheap!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 08, 2017, 03:29:19 AM
Addendum: About two ounces of pineapple lemonade with a Hamm's poured unceremoniously into it to remove the excess carbonation tastes exactly like a Leinenkugel's "Summer Shandy"... which is something. Not sure if a good something.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2017, 06:27:31 AM
Had a chat with the new boss.  It's jeans, polo shirts, and jeans.  So the same as before, with a collar.   :lulz:

My new boss is adorable.  She's just like Jim...including calling me at 8PM on a Friday night from the office to go over a few things.  This bodes well, actually.  I'm hourly (at least for 90 days), and I can seriously use the cash, as my reserves are pretty damn low, as all I've done for the last 4 months is piece-work consulting.

She is also like Jim in that she worries an awful lot, but seems to be able to pull cash from the corporate overlords in sufficient amounts.  And ALSO like Jim in that I am the dude writing the budget.  This is in fact starting to look like the glory days at SASOL, with less exploding equipment, but far harsher penalties for failure (ie, water, sewers, etc not working for a massive research facility.  300 acres of exploding toilets seems to be the worst possible outcome, but I've been wrong before.)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 08, 2017, 11:13:25 AM
Excellent news there. I eagerly await the first catastrophic fuckup.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 08, 2017, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 08, 2017, 03:29:19 AM
Addendum: About two ounces of pineapple lemonade with a Hamm's poured unceremoniously into it to remove the excess carbonation tastes exactly like a Leinenkugel's "Summer Shandy"... which is something. Not sure if a good something.

I used to drink Hamms and orange juice, AKA "Hamosas". Pretty damn decent. Then I discovered Rainier grapefruit shandy, and here we are today.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 08, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
Yesterday I got to open up the abdomen of our cadaver, and clean the fat off a kidney. It was pretty damn cool! I particularly enjoyed the scalpel work, as there is some undefinable pleasure in making a careful, clean incision that cuts only the layer you want to cut. It's like... flying, but with a knife.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 08, 2017, 04:45:11 PM
Wait, what cadaver?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 08, 2017, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 08, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
Yesterday I got to open up the abdomen of our cadaver, and clean the fat off a kidney. It was pretty damn cool! I particularly enjoyed the scalpel work, as there is some undefinable pleasure in making a careful, clean incision that cuts only the layer you want to cut. It's like... flying, but with a knife.

I know exactly what you mean. I get that feeling from microscopic high precision electronics work but I first felt it in high school during a fetal pig dissection. It so happened that I only had to share it with one other person and we were graded on a worksheet that was easily filled out leaving us to do as we pleased. We managed to remove its brain and brainstem in pristine condition and present it to the lab teacher who was... not enthusiastic about the dissection lab in the first place. The look on his face not just at the brain but our GRINs was worth all of the effort many fold!

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 08, 2017, 09:39:01 PM
I'm so frustrated right now.

So we got kittens, right, two of them. They are adorable and me and the boy both love them. However, the boy is interested mostly in doing whatever entertains him, and I've had to discuss how cats need respect and gentleness even more than dogs do, because they're slightly more likely to bite and scratch and they won't like being abused. Today I found the boy had put my kitten in a tall laundry hamper and put a puzzle flannel over it so he couldn't get out. I grounded him to his room for the rest of today.

I've been really trying to never resort to the "Because I said so," reasoning that my folks used on me to explain why it's fair to ground him, and explain what isn't fair (torment the cats, disrespect boundaries, so on and so forth), but he still doesn't get it and I'm so  :argh!:

First world problems, right?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 09, 2017, 07:11:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 07, 2017, 04:50:57 PM
I remember when ECH was reviewing shitty 4loko flavours.  Dark times, man, dark times.

They lost me when they took the caffeine out of it. I don't half-ass my cheapshit buzzes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 09, 2017, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 08, 2017, 04:45:11 PM
Wait, what cadaver?

Don't worry, it's legal -- I teach A&P now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 09, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 08, 2017, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 08, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
Yesterday I got to open up the abdomen of our cadaver, and clean the fat off a kidney. It was pretty damn cool! I particularly enjoyed the scalpel work, as there is some undefinable pleasure in making a careful, clean incision that cuts only the layer you want to cut. It's like... flying, but with a knife.

I know exactly what you mean. I get that feeling from microscopic high precision electronics work but I first felt it in high school during a fetal pig dissection. It so happened that I only had to share it with one other person and we were graded on a worksheet that was easily filled out leaving us to do as we pleased. We managed to remove its brain and brainstem in pristine condition and present it to the lab teacher who was... not enthusiastic about the dissection lab in the first place. The look on his face not just at the brain but our GRINs was worth all of the effort many fold!

Nice... brain dissections are really hard, it's easy to damage the delicate tissues with a rough bone edge.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 09, 2017, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 08, 2017, 04:45:11 PM
Wait, what cadaver?

Don't worry, it's legal -- I teach A&P now.

Ah.

Good.

That makes the group implication far less problematic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2017, 09:00:57 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 09, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 08, 2017, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 08, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
Yesterday I got to open up the abdomen of our cadaver, and clean the fat off a kidney. It was pretty damn cool! I particularly enjoyed the scalpel work, as there is some undefinable pleasure in making a careful, clean incision that cuts only the layer you want to cut. It's like... flying, but with a knife.

I know exactly what you mean. I get that feeling from microscopic high precision electronics work but I first felt it in high school during a fetal pig dissection. It so happened that I only had to share it with one other person and we were graded on a worksheet that was easily filled out leaving us to do as we pleased. We managed to remove its brain and brainstem in pristine condition and present it to the lab teacher who was... not enthusiastic about the dissection lab in the first place. The look on his face not just at the brain but our GRINs was worth all of the effort many fold!

Nice... brain dissections are really hard, it's easy to damage the delicate tissues with a rough bone edge.

I wasn't pretty, but the scalpels we had were brand new and I had a pretty good idea of how far down around the skull to cut. As I recall my partner was the one that suggested a lateral incision into the spinal chord at the base of the skull before I tried turning it over to remove the thing. She saved the project. It was preserved in a fluid that had shrunk most of the other organs as well as the brain so there was a little bit of wiggle room between the brain case and the brain itself if I recall correctly. We were just supposed to open the abdomen and ribcage an play "what's this bit" and fill out a very simple sheet pretty much designed to make actual cutting unnecessary for the squeamish kids. We were just not the squeamish kids at all. It was supposed to be groups of 4 and nobody wanted us so we got a pig to share. Her name was Shawna and shit I haven't thought about this in nearly two decades.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on April 09, 2017, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2017, 09:00:57 PM


I wasn't pretty, but the scalpels we had were brand new and I had a pretty good idea of how far down around the skull to cut.

Man, sometimes you are just fucking terrifying
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 10:04:26 PM
You have been issued a Roger penalty notice. The fine for ambiguous compliments can be paid to the usual man under the bridge at 2 to 3am every third Thursday and is sue in full by tomorrow. Failure to pay promptly will result in Roger cooking you (1) meal in (your/it's) kitchen.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2017, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: MMIX on April 09, 2017, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2017, 09:00:57 PM


I wasn't pretty, but the scalpels we had were brand new and I had a pretty good idea of how far down around the skull to cut.

Man, sometimes you are just fucking terrifying

I've spent my adult life downplaying that as best as I can. Sorry. I've been talking to my councilor with a candor that I haven't even had with close personal friends. Seen her stiffen up a few times when I get into my past or describe my less savory thoughts like how I might have gone about ending myself and why. She seems to believe that I suffer from acute PTSD and maybe clinical "personality disorder." I don't know. I'm trying to avoid self diagnosis and just work with the good folks at the county.

That's a typo though. Should be "It wasn't pretty". I can see how reading that as is was a twist.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2017, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 10:04:26 PM
You have been issued a Roger penalty notice. The fine for ambiguous compliments can be paid to the usual man under the bridge at 2 to 3am every third Thursday and is sue in full by tomorrow. Failure to pay promptly will result in Roger cooking you (1) meal in (your/it's) kitchen.

Would you say it's a fine meal?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 10:12:00 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2017, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 10:04:26 PM
You have been issued a Roger penalty notice. The fine for ambiguous compliments can be paid to the usual man under the bridge at 2 to 3am every third Thursday and is sue in full by tomorrow. Failure to pay promptly will result in Roger cooking you (1) meal in (your/it's) kitchen.

Would you say it's a fine meal?

You have been issued an RWHN penalty notice. You will suffer an ill fitting suit within (30) Days or RWHN will explain nothing to you for (4) weeks despite being obviously wrong.

This penalty can be disputed at the Go Fuck Yourself department which tends to answer enquiries within 36 months or cause your untimely demise.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2017, 10:46:04 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 10:12:00 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2017, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 10:04:26 PM
You have been issued a Roger penalty notice. The fine for ambiguous compliments can be paid to the usual man under the bridge at 2 to 3am every third Thursday and is sue in full by tomorrow. Failure to pay promptly will result in Roger cooking you (1) meal in (your/it's) kitchen.

Would you say it's a fine meal?

You have been issued an RWHN penalty notice. You will suffer an ill fitting suit within (30) Days or RWHN will explain nothing to you for (4) weeks despite being obviously wrong.

This penalty can be disputed at the Go Fuck Yourself department which tends to answer enquiries within 36 months or cause your untimely demise.

Well the punishment certainly  suits the crime.  :thanks:

Please for the love of fuck and sweet Jesus someone kill me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 11:56:49 PM
An additional penalty has been added, please report to your nearest active volcanic processing center to redistribute your carbon appropriately.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:17:42 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 11:56:49 PM
An additional penalty has been added, please report to your nearest active volcanic processing center to redistribute your carbon appropriately.

I... I understand. It's best for everyone this way. I think closest active volcano without needing a passport is in Hawaii. I'll report there immediately. I should have heeded the clearly posted signage.

:nopunsplease:  :zombie:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 10, 2017, 01:49:33 AM
On the plus side, additional food supplements are to be supplied to entities getting a tattoo of the text "you only have yourselves to blame".

On the downside the critical ink shortage will result in an excessive tattoo tax on all those who get said tattoo because, well, they only have themselves to blame.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 10, 2017, 01:49:41 AM
Quote from: Freeky on April 08, 2017, 09:39:01 PM
I'm so frustrated right now.

So we got kittens, right, two of them. They are adorable and me and the boy both love them. However, the boy is interested mostly in doing whatever entertains him, and I've had to discuss how cats need respect and gentleness even more than dogs do, because they're slightly more likely to bite and scratch and they won't like being abused. Today I found the boy had put my kitten in a tall laundry hamper and put a puzzle flannel over it so he couldn't get out. I grounded him to his room for the rest of today.

I've been really trying to never resort to the "Because I said so," reasoning that my folks used on me to explain why it's fair to ground him, and explain what isn't fair (torment the cats, disrespect boundaries, so on and so forth), but he still doesn't get it and I'm so  :argh!:

First world problems, right?

That's hard. How old is he now? Sometimes it just takes a few years for empathy to develop.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 02:20:04 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2017, 01:49:33 AM
On the plus side, additional food supplements are to be supplied to entities getting a tattoo of the text "you only have yourselves to blame".

On the downside the critical ink shortage will result in an excessive tattoo tax on all those who get said tattoo because, well, they only have themselves to blame.

I want mine in Akkadian cuneiform so they know that I mean business..
Wait, what?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
 :ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 10, 2017, 04:46:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 10, 2017, 01:49:41 AM
Quote from: Freeky on April 08, 2017, 09:39:01 PM
I'm so frustrated right now.

So we got kittens, right, two of them. They are adorable and me and the boy both love them. However, the boy is interested mostly in doing whatever entertains him, and I've had to discuss how cats need respect and gentleness even more than dogs do, because they're slightly more likely to bite and scratch and they won't like being abused. Today I found the boy had put my kitten in a tall laundry hamper and put a puzzle flannel over it so he couldn't get out. I grounded him to his room for the rest of today.

I've been really trying to never resort to the "Because I said so," reasoning that my folks used on me to explain why it's fair to ground him, and explain what isn't fair (torment the cats, disrespect boundaries, so on and so forth), but he still doesn't get it and I'm so  :argh!:

First world problems, right?

That's hard. How old is he now? Sometimes it just takes a few years for empathy to develop.

He's 9. I'm hoping that it's just slow to develop, too.

There was also an incident today involving him and the same kitten. He says he just dropped him on accident, but Munkustrap can't put any weight on his leg and when I touch his knee he growls and shouts at me. Vet tomorrow, and my mom is already treating me like shit because it needs doing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
:ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.

What movie is this from?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 10, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
:ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.

What movie is this from?

Reptilicus

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on April 11, 2017, 12:30:36 AM
I'm trying to think of something more inadvertently despicable than encouraging a person with an untreated mental illness to ignore all those people out there trying to gaslight them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 11, 2017, 02:17:46 AM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on April 11, 2017, 12:30:36 AM
I'm trying to think of something more inadvertently despicable than encouraging a person with an untreated mental illness to ignore all those people out there trying to gaslight them.

What? That sounds... something.


Also, Munkustrap is doing okay. The vet said there's some swelling and bruising in his knee and ankle, but nothing seems outrageously wrong, so they gave  him an anti-inflammatory shot and sent us home with some oral pain meds. If he doesn't get better we have to go get x-rays, bt for now things look good.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 13, 2017, 12:05:50 AM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on April 11, 2017, 12:30:36 AM
I'm trying to think of something more inadvertently despicable than encouraging a person with an untreated mental illness to ignore all those people out there trying to gaslight them.

That sounds like a shitty situation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 13, 2017, 12:06:18 AM
Quote from: Freeky on April 10, 2017, 04:46:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 10, 2017, 01:49:41 AM
Quote from: Freeky on April 08, 2017, 09:39:01 PM
I'm so frustrated right now.

So we got kittens, right, two of them. They are adorable and me and the boy both love them. However, the boy is interested mostly in doing whatever entertains him, and I've had to discuss how cats need respect and gentleness even more than dogs do, because they're slightly more likely to bite and scratch and they won't like being abused. Today I found the boy had put my kitten in a tall laundry hamper and put a puzzle flannel over it so he couldn't get out. I grounded him to his room for the rest of today.

I've been really trying to never resort to the "Because I said so," reasoning that my folks used on me to explain why it's fair to ground him, and explain what isn't fair (torment the cats, disrespect boundaries, so on and so forth), but he still doesn't get it and I'm so  :argh!:

First world problems, right?

That's hard. How old is he now? Sometimes it just takes a few years for empathy to develop.

He's 9. I'm hoping that it's just slow to develop, too.

There was also an incident today involving him and the same kitten. He says he just dropped him on accident, but Munkustrap can't put any weight on his leg and when I touch his knee he growls and shouts at me. Vet tomorrow, and my mom is already treating me like shit because it needs doing.

Have you had him assessed for developmental delays?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 13, 2017, 03:44:56 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 13, 2017, 12:06:18 AM
Quote from: Freeky on April 10, 2017, 04:46:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 10, 2017, 01:49:41 AM
Quote from: Freeky on April 08, 2017, 09:39:01 PM
I'm so frustrated right now.

So we got kittens, right, two of them. They are adorable and me and the boy both love them. However, the boy is interested mostly in doing whatever entertains him, and I've had to discuss how cats need respect and gentleness even more than dogs do, because they're slightly more likely to bite and scratch and they won't like being abused. Today I found the boy had put my kitten in a tall laundry hamper and put a puzzle flannel over it so he couldn't get out. I grounded him to his room for the rest of today.

I've been really trying to never resort to the "Because I said so," reasoning that my folks used on me to explain why it's fair to ground him, and explain what isn't fair (torment the cats, disrespect boundaries, so on and so forth), but he still doesn't get it and I'm so  :argh!:

First world problems, right?

That's hard. How old is he now? Sometimes it just takes a few years for empathy to develop.

He's 9. I'm hoping that it's just slow to develop, too.

There was also an incident today involving him and the same kitten. He says he just dropped him on accident, but Munkustrap can't put any weight on his leg and when I touch his knee he growls and shouts at me. Vet tomorrow, and my mom is already treating me like shit because it needs doing.

Have you had him assessed for developmental delays?

I don't think so, but I think I will soon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on April 13, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
:ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.

What movie is this from?

Reptilicus

I'm so glad someone else watches MST3K. I felt like the only one.

Horrors of Spider Island and This Island Earth are my favorites of all time I think.



Unrelated:

So, the self-service request system the company I support uses has a "Special Shipping Instructions" field at the end of the order form. Since all of the requests don't actually involve physical shipments, because it's an IT request form, I decided to throw in some sarcastic remarks into those "Shipping Instructions." This included:

"Fill box only half-full of packing peanuts.
Store diagonally and ship by mule only. Horses cost too much.
Use only organic tape."

I assumed that this would not be visible to the actual resolver teams, the approving manager, or anyone who happens to look at the request itself in our ticketing system.

I was gloriously wrong  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 03:32:04 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 13, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
:ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.

What movie is this from?

Reptilicus

I'm so glad someone else watches MST3K. I felt like the only one.

Horrors of Spider Island and This Island Earth are my favorites of all time I think.



Unrelated:

So, the self-service request system the company I support uses has a "Special Shipping Instructions" field at the end of the order form. Since all of the requests don't actually involve physical shipments, because it's an IT request form, I decided to throw in some sarcastic remarks into those "Shipping Instructions." This included:

"Fill box only half-full of packing peanuts.
Store diagonally and ship by mule only. Horses cost too much.
Use only organic tape."

I assumed that this would not be visible to the actual resolver teams, the approving manager, or anyone who happens to look at the request itself in our ticketing system.

I was gloriously wrong  :lulz:

:lulz: sounds like a new hobby.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 05:53:38 AM
What has Reddit done? My god, how long has it been that way?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 06:27:53 AM
My longest-standing school friend emailed me to ask for some advice, and ended it by saying that he was asking me because I am an innately sweet and kind person.

I am having really mixed feelings about this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 15, 2017, 07:20:42 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 05:53:38 AM
What has Reddit done? My god, how long has it been that way?

You mean "been infested with alt-right weenies"? Since about 2014
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 15, 2017, 07:20:42 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 05:53:38 AM
What has Reddit done? My god, how long has it been that way?

You mean "been infested with Rebranded White Nationalism weenies"? Since about 2014

Hah! I tend to stick to science reddits, so I don't see so many of those.

They have, at some point since I last looked, completely fucked the interface.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 09:13:15 AM
I keep waking up, and the xanax I took half an hour ago just seems to be making me feel like garbage without actually helping me relax or sleep.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 15, 2017, 10:50:26 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 06:27:53 AM
My longest-standing school friend emailed me to ask for some advice, and ended it by saying that he was asking me because I am an innately sweet and kind person.

I am having really mixed feelings about this.

Oranges are innately sweet
A kind fruit most delectable
At first

But in essence the dosage counts
For too much of the best can be
The worst


Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 09:13:15 AM
I keep waking up, and the xanax I took half an hour ago just seems to be making me feel like garbage without actually helping me relax or sleep.

I can definitely say that I'm also starting to get sleep abnormalities from the stuff that they have me on. I keep sleeping in about 3 or 4 hour blocks. The stuff also would seem to be increasing the vividness of my dreams, but not necessarily in a way that I consciously retain. Neither of thses effects seem to come with real relief of my other symptoms, but I can definitively say it's doing SOMETHING  if not necessarily being helpful.

Do you usually take xanax?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on April 15, 2017, 02:36:13 PM
Just found a job posting that is right up my alley; control systems, fluid power, PLCs, HMIs, all that jazz, and as an added bonus, they've only been sued by the EEOC TWICE; once for religious discrimination, and then again for retaliation for firing the guy that sued them!


They just can't shut up about how friendly they are! We are going to have such a good time talking about all those prayer rugs, and weird food in the cafeteria at my previous job. I hope they let me keep my cellphone on me when we're talking.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 15, 2017, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 15, 2017, 07:20:42 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 05:53:38 AM
What has Reddit done? My god, how long has it been that way?

You mean "been infested with Rebranded White Nationalism weenies"? Since about 2014

Hah! I tend to stick to science reddits, so I don't see so many of those.

They have, at some point since I last looked, completely fucked the interface.

They changed the personal profile pages, to allow celebrities to be able to host AMAs on their own profile.  That's the only recent change I can think of.  Anything else is probably just terribly CSS formatting by subreddit owners.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 09:09:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 15, 2017, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 15, 2017, 07:20:42 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 15, 2017, 05:53:38 AM
What has Reddit done? My god, how long has it been that way?

You mean "been infested with Rebranded White Nationalism weenies"? Since about 2014

Hah! I tend to stick to science reddits, so I don't see so many of those.

They have, at some point since I last looked, completely fucked the interface.

They changed the personal profile pages, to allow celebrities to be able to host AMAs on their own profile.  That's the only recent change I can think of.  Anything else is probably just terribly CSS formatting by subreddit owners.

They moved some shit around. I can't put my finger on what they did because it's been like 3 months.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 16, 2017, 01:32:54 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 13, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
:ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.

What movie is this from?

Reptilicus

I'm so glad someone else watches MST3K. I felt like the only one.

Horrors of Spider Island and This Island Earth are my favorites of all time I think.



Not Space Mutiny?

The new one is great, higher joke density.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 16, 2017, 05:24:27 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 16, 2017, 01:32:54 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 13, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
:ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.

What movie is this from?

Reptilicus

I'm so glad someone else watches MST3K. I felt like the only one.

Horrors of Spider Island and This Island Earth are my favorites of all time I think.



Not Space Mutiny?

The new one is great, higher joke density.

We watched the Reptilicus episode last night and it was hilarious.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on April 16, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
Well. Time to start following where these riots are happening.

I can get two things off my bucket list at the same rally.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2017, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Meunster on April 16, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
Well. Time to start following where these riots are happening.

I can get two things off my bucket list at the same rally.

Riots? Also what things?  :?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on April 17, 2017, 06:00:09 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2017, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Meunster on April 16, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
Well. Time to start following where these riots are happening.

I can get two things off my bucket list at the same rally.

Riots? Also what things?  :?

Anti fa thinking using violence to silence anything they don't like. Thinking yeah, thats not something fascist do.

Be in a riot.
Yell at white people about dreds.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on April 17, 2017, 01:22:18 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 16, 2017, 01:32:54 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 13, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
:ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.

What movie is this from?

Reptilicus

I'm so glad someone else watches MST3K. I felt like the only one.

Horrors of Spider Island and This Island Earth are my favorites of all time I think.



Not Space Mutiny?

The new one is great, higher joke density.

I don't recall that one. I'm gonna have to go back through them tonight.

Also, that's awesome! I was kinda worried. I'll have to start those as well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 18, 2017, 12:28:05 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 17, 2017, 01:22:18 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 16, 2017, 01:32:54 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 13, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 10, 2017, 03:25:04 AM
:ahhh:

MST3K used this movie as the first episode of their new season.

What movie is this from?

Reptilicus

I'm so glad someone else watches MST3K. I felt like the only one.

Horrors of Spider Island and This Island Earth are my favorites of all time I think.



Not Space Mutiny?

The new one is great, higher joke density.

I don't recall that one. I'm gonna have to go back through them tonight.

Also, that's awesome! I was kinda worried. I'll have to start those as well.

Space Mutiny is the one with the alternate names for the main character.

We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Meunster on April 18, 2017, 07:15:34 AM
Wew. 20$ vr headset. Best infestment ever. Porn is no longer the same. Though makes me wonder, doimg dxm and watching a dada film in vr would be great.
Where to find vr films?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on April 18, 2017, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 18, 2017, 12:28:05 AM
Space Mutiny is the one with the alternate names for the main character.

We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese.

:lulz:

I remember that line, but I'm quite sure I didn't see that one. I must've heard a reference of some kind before. But I will be watching that one. Tonight, most likely.



Forum Fuckery related: Is there a quote limit or something? Says the text box is empty and can't post anything if I have all of the quotes in there. But if I remove just one quote, it works.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on April 18, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on April 18, 2017, 07:45:34 PM

Forum Fuckery related: Is there a quote limit or something? Says the text box is empty and can't post anything if I have all of the quotes in there. But if I remove just one quote, it works.

I dunno, for a few weeks the only way I can enter any response is by "quote" instead of direct "reply". Even then I still have to ritualistically press a bunch of random keys in rapid succession just to get a text prompt. I see it as a commentary on the nature of creativity  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on April 18, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 18, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on April 18, 2017, 07:45:34 PM

Forum Fuckery related: Is there a quote limit or something? Says the text box is empty and can't post anything if I have all of the quotes in there. But if I remove just one quote, it works.

I dunno, for a few weeks the only way I can enter any response is by "quote" instead of direct "reply". Even then I still have to ritualistically press a bunch of random keys in rapid succession just to get a text prompt. I see it as a commentary on the nature of creativity  :lulz:

:lulz:

What OS/Browser are you using?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on April 19, 2017, 02:01:14 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 18, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 18, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on April 18, 2017, 07:45:34 PM

Forum Fuckery related: Is there a quote limit or something? Says the text box is empty and can't post anything if I have all of the quotes in there. But if I remove just one quote, it works.

I dunno, for a few weeks the only way I can enter any response is by "quote" instead of direct "reply". Even then I still have to ritualistically press a bunch of random keys in rapid succession just to get a text prompt. I see it as a commentary on the nature of creativity  :lulz:

:lulz:

What OS/Browser are you using?

Obsolete ones, however I can..not...resist...  What's it to you? :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on April 19, 2017, 02:38:55 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 19, 2017, 02:01:14 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 18, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 18, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on April 18, 2017, 07:45:34 PM

Forum Fuckery related: Is there a quote limit or something? Says the text box is empty and can't post anything if I have all of the quotes in there. But if I remove just one quote, it works.

I dunno, for a few weeks the only way I can enter any response is by "quote" instead of direct "reply". Even then I still have to ritualistically press a bunch of random keys in rapid succession just to get a text prompt. I see it as a commentary on the nature of creativity  :lulz:

:lulz:

What OS/Browser are you using?

Obsolete ones, however I can..not...resist...  What's it to you? :lulz:

I diagnose, study, and solve IT problems for a living. And I'm obsessed with and addicted to the puzzles and the various ways in which they present themselves. Work has been boring me lately because the problems aren't complicated or new anymore.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on April 19, 2017, 02:58:28 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 19, 2017, 02:38:55 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 19, 2017, 02:01:14 AM
Quote from: PoFP on April 18, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 18, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on April 18, 2017, 07:45:34 PM

Forum Fuckery related: Is there a quote limit or something? Says the text box is empty and can't post anything if I have all of the quotes in there. But if I remove just one quote, it works.

I dunno, for a few weeks the only way I can enter any response is by "quote" instead of direct "reply". Even then I still have to ritualistically press a bunch of random keys in rapid succession just to get a text prompt. I see it as a commentary on the nature of creativity  :lulz:

:lulz:

What OS/Browser are you using?

Obsolete ones, however I can..not...resist...  What's it to you? :lulz:

I diagnose, study, and solve IT problems for a living. And I'm obsessed with and addicted to the puzzles and the various ways in which they present themselves. Work has been boring me lately because the problems aren't complicated or new anymore.
Kewl, I like how the current git-hub master-branch paradigm works, it's just I can't be bothered with constantly looking over my shoulder to see how some new automatic OS update effectively nuked everything in /usr/local. Meh, don't even get me started with audio VST's. My next upgrade is gonna be an actual time-machine.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on April 19, 2017, 03:52:48 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 19, 2017, 02:58:28 AM
Kewl, I like how the current git-hub master-branch paradigm works, it's just I can't be bothered with constantly looking over my shoulder to see how some new automatic OS update effectively nuked everything in /usr/local. Meh, don't even get me started with audio VST's. My next upgrade is gonna be an actual time-machine.

I certainly understand the appreciation for the freedom and simplicity of the old Unix-based OS's.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2017, 07:07:53 PM
I'm so tired of reading about antigen retrieval.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Thinking about going to a tech college and getting my AAS in Machining.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2017, 10:10:44 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Thinking about going to a tech college and getting my AAS in Machining.

That sounds like fun, as well as highly marketable. You already have a BA, right?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on April 19, 2017, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: PoFP on April 19, 2017, 03:52:48 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 19, 2017, 02:58:28 AM
Kewl, I like how the current git-hub master-branch paradigm works, it's just I can't be bothered with constantly looking over my shoulder to see how some new automatic OS update effectively nuked everything in /usr/local. Meh, don't even get me started with audio VST's. My next upgrade is gonna be an actual time-machine.

I certainly understand the appreciation for the freedom and simplicity of the old Unix-based OS's.
There's supposed to be some way of encapsulating projects and dependencies with independent ENVironments... I'm just starting to hit my limit with this stuff.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2017, 10:10:44 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Thinking about going to a tech college and getting my AAS in Machining.

That sounds like fun, as well as highly marketable. You already have a BA, right?

It is fun. It's what I was doing before I had a huge lapse in judgement for 8 years and enlisted.

Yes, from the University of Washington, Art, Media an Culture. I should be good with the word writing bullshiting my way into jobs but nothing I'm even slightly directly qualified to do has seemed appealing. AND after failing to get into any of the MFA programs I applied for I just don't even.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 11:01:01 PM
And I'm glad most of us are still alive.

And slightly sad that some of yall are still alive.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on April 20, 2017, 04:45:21 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 19, 2017, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: PoFP on April 19, 2017, 03:52:48 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 19, 2017, 02:58:28 AM
Kewl, I like how the current git-hub master-branch paradigm works, it's just I can't be bothered with constantly looking over my shoulder to see how some new automatic OS update effectively nuked everything in /usr/local. Meh, don't even get me started with audio VST's. My next upgrade is gonna be an actual time-machine.

I certainly understand the appreciation for the freedom and simplicity of the old Unix-based OS's.
There's supposed to be some way of encapsulating projects and dependencies with independent ENVironments... I'm just starting to hit my limit with this stuff.

Are we talking media based projects? (In reference to your mention of Audio VSTs)

Or just basic data procesing/API project version management?

Because if I recall, they have various project management systems that specialize in organizaton of specific types of projects. Just can't recall any names at the moment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 20, 2017, 07:13:11 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Thinking about going to a tech college and getting my AAS in Machining.

I read this as "getting my ASS in machining."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 20, 2017, 07:15:45 AM
How are computers so exhausting I just spent 12 hours struggling to get this shitty laptop working, which included the last few hours doing a factory reset and putting Chrome on. I shouldn't be this tired, it's just basically waiting around for shit to happen.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 20, 2017, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 20, 2017, 07:15:45 AM
How are computers so exhausting I just spent 12 hours struggling to get this shitty laptop working, which included the last few hours doing a factory reset and putting Chrome on. I shouldn't be this tired, it's just basically waiting around for shit to happen.

It's the boredom that gets you. Sitting for hours on end watching a busy pointer, knowing the whole time that the second you walk out the room the motherfucker is going to ask you something and halt the install until it gets an answer. It's very draining.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on April 20, 2017, 06:19:16 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 20, 2017, 07:13:11 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Thinking about going to a tech college and getting my AAS in Machining.

I read this as "getting my ASS in machining."

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 22, 2017, 01:46:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2017, 10:10:44 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Thinking about going to a tech college and getting my AAS in Machining.

That sounds like fun, as well as highly marketable. You already have a BA, right?

It is fun. It's what I was doing before I had a huge lapse in judgement for 8 years and enlisted.

Yes, from the University of Washington, Art, Media an Culture. I should be good with the word writing bullshiting my way into jobs but nothing I'm even slightly directly qualified to do has seemed appealing. AND after failing to get into any of the MFA programs I applied for I just don't even.

You can leverage the BA to make your AAS far more marketable/profitable. Sounds like a great combination!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on April 22, 2017, 02:30:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 22, 2017, 01:46:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2017, 10:10:44 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Thinking about going to a tech college and getting my AAS in Machining.

That sounds like fun, as well as highly marketable. You already have a BA, right?

It is fun. It's what I was doing before I had a huge lapse in judgement for 8 years and enlisted.

Yes, from the University of Washington, Art, Media an Culture. I should be good with the word writing bullshiting my way into jobs but nothing I'm even slightly directly qualified to do has seemed appealing. AND after failing to get into any of the MFA programs I applied for I just don't even.

You can leverage the BA to make your AAS far more marketable/profitable. Sounds like a great combination!

It would be nice to do the semi-hitech stuff i was doing before the Army, commanding machines to make satcom components out of super-alloys.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 22, 2017, 03:58:17 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 22, 2017, 02:30:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 22, 2017, 01:46:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2017, 10:10:44 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on April 19, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Thinking about going to a tech college and getting my AAS in Machining.

That sounds like fun, as well as highly marketable. You already have a BA, right?

It is fun. It's what I was doing before I had a huge lapse in judgement for 8 years and enlisted.

Yes, from the University of Washington, Art, Media an Culture. I should be good with the word writing bullshiting my way into jobs but nothing I'm even slightly directly qualified to do has seemed appealing. AND after failing to get into any of the MFA programs I applied for I just don't even.

You can leverage the BA to make your AAS far more marketable/profitable. Sounds like a great combination!

It would be nice to do the semi-hitech stuff i was doing before the Army, commanding machines to make satcom components out of super-alloys.

Yeah, that sounds incredibly cool.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 24, 2017, 03:10:39 PM
My work week is looking like fun.  Working tonight and tomorrow, then I have a night off, then I have to attend mandatory training (on "respecting boundaries", only 4 hours thank god), then two more nights off, then in for 4 nights. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on April 24, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
My copy of Windows broke itself. Directly after doing a reset install, too. I am so sick of Windows and all its bullshit, and I can't afford a copy of Mac, so Linux it is! ADVENTURE!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 24, 2017, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 24, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
My copy of Windows broke itself. Directly after doing a reset install, too. I am so sick of Windows and all its bullshit, and I can't afford a copy of Mac, so Linux it is! ADVENTURE!

Our work copy of Windows has been invalid for, like, the past 3 weeks.  I'm eagerly awaiting the moment that MS brick our reception PC for counterfeiting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 12:14:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2017, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 24, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
My copy of Windows broke itself. Directly after doing a reset install, too. I am so sick of Windows and all its bullshit, and I can't afford a copy of Mac, so Linux it is! ADVENTURE!

Our work copy of Windows has been invalid for, like, the past 3 weeks.  I'm eagerly awaiting the moment that MS brick our reception PC for counterfeiting.

If it's win10 I think the cutoff is around 28 days.

I'm surprised they're using legit software. Probably one of the only places in the UK that is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 25, 2017, 12:34:42 AM
I know this is a thing, and I shouldn't react based on biases of my own experience etc...

But no, pregnancy is not super awesome fun times.  Pooping for two sucks.

I'm suspecting my sister is an alien because she's had two kids and describes it as  wonderful and addictive, and she wants more kids but won't\can't due to husband.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 02:14:32 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 25, 2017, 12:34:42 AM
I know this is a thing, and I shouldn't react based on biases of my own experience etc...

But no, pregnancy is not super awesome fun times.  Pooping for two sucks.

I'm suspecting my sister is an alien because she's had two kids and describes it as  wonderful and addictive, and she wants more kids but won't\can't due to husband.

I found being pregnant interesting the first time, because I like novel experiences, and a festival of suck I couldn't wait to be over with the other two times. I like having kids, I just don't like bearing kids.

Feel free to vent, I can at least offer moral support.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 25, 2017, 02:50:18 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 02:14:32 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 25, 2017, 12:34:42 AM
I know this is a thing, and I shouldn't react based on biases of my own experience etc...

But no, pregnancy is not super awesome fun times.  Pooping for two sucks.

I'm suspecting my sister is an alien because she's had two kids and describes it as  wonderful and addictive, and she wants more kids but won't\can't due to husband.

I found being pregnant interesting the first time, because I like novel experiences, and a festival of suck I couldn't wait to be over with the other two times. I like having kids, I just don't like bearing kids.

Feel free to vent, I can at least offer moral support.

Yeah, I was kinda the same with my first, up until the gestational diabetes part, then I was just wanting it to be over. 

I have two sisters both younger than me, one which has two kids and the other which is pregnant with her first.   First sister is not nearly talking to the other one enough because she has to keep telling me how wonderful having babies is.  Nope not really.

The second is a bit into health food woo and posts anti vaccine memes.  One of my blood tests showed I have no measles antibodies, so always fun.  I was told to get the MMR shot right after this one is born. 

My daughter just tested on the autism spectrum, if she brings that shit up I'm going to smack her.  Maybe wait till she has hers then smack her.  It will be interesting, she was an MMA fighter.

Also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbTB3ASkdOo
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbTB3ASkdOo)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 25, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 12:14:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2017, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 24, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
My copy of Windows broke itself. Directly after doing a reset install, too. I am so sick of Windows and all its bullshit, and I can't afford a copy of Mac, so Linux it is! ADVENTURE!

Our work copy of Windows has been invalid for, like, the past 3 weeks.  I'm eagerly awaiting the moment that MS brick our reception PC for counterfeiting.

If it's win10 I think the cutoff is around 28 days.

I'm surprised they're using legit software. Probably one of the only places in the UK that is.

It's 7 still.  I think we have a licence which means, so long as this computer connects to the main server, it automatically validates it.

Thing is, of course, it's not doing that now.  You would think this might be some cause concern in IT, but they're too busy with a month-long WoW bender or something.  One presumes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 25, 2017, 03:29:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 25, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 12:14:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2017, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 24, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
My copy of Windows broke itself. Directly after doing a reset install, too. I am so sick of Windows and all its bullshit, and I can't afford a copy of Mac, so Linux it is! ADVENTURE!

Our work copy of Windows has been invalid for, like, the past 3 weeks.  I'm eagerly awaiting the moment that MS brick our reception PC for counterfeiting.

If it's win10 I think the cutoff is around 28 days.

I'm surprised they're using legit software. Probably one of the only places in the UK that is.

It's 7 still.  I think we have a licence which means, so long as this computer connects to the main server, it automatically validates it.

Thing is, of course, it's not doing that now.  You would think this might be some cause concern in IT, but they're too busy with a month-long WoW bender or something.  One presumes.

Main server probably repurposed as WoW private server.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 02:27:25 PM
We bought a car this weekend. My car is still in the shop waiting for a turbo, and Salty's van has tooooo many things wrong with it, so it was time to just buy something that will hopefully be reliable and low-maintenance. So we got another Volvo, a 1990 740 basic model sedan with 132k miles. It's gonna have problems, of course, but my experience with my old one was that everything except the wiring harness is cheap AF to replace.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 05:37:28 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 02:27:25 PM
We bought a car this weekend. My car is still in the shop waiting for a turbo, and Salty's van has tooooo many things wrong with it, so it was time to just buy something that will hopefully be reliable and low-maintenance. So we got another Volvo, a 1990 740 basic model sedan with 132k miles. It's gonna have problems, of course, but my experience with my old one was that everything except the wiring harness is cheap AF to replace.

One of the best decisions I've ever made was learning basic/intermediate auto maintenance. Garages here will rip you off for everything and anything and being able to sort basic problems yourself saves so much time and hassle it's unreal. With a Haynes manual and youtube/google you'd be surprised at what you can do when you're able to diagnose the issue correctly.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 25, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 12:14:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2017, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 24, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
My copy of Windows broke itself. Directly after doing a reset install, too. I am so sick of Windows and all its bullshit, and I can't afford a copy of Mac, so Linux it is! ADVENTURE!

Our work copy of Windows has been invalid for, like, the past 3 weeks.  I'm eagerly awaiting the moment that MS brick our reception PC for counterfeiting.

If it's win10 I think the cutoff is around 28 days.

I'm surprised they're using legit software. Probably one of the only places in the UK that is.

It's 7 still.  I think we have a licence which means, so long as this computer connects to the main server, it automatically validates it.

Thing is, of course, it's not doing that now.  You would think this might be some cause concern in IT, but they're too busy with a month-long WoW bender or something.  One presumes.

7? Really?

That IT department must hate themselves. Or any upgrade/changes, no matter how minor will horribly break whatever janky system they've got so they're terrified of anything new. I know I don't have to tell you this, but thisis going to end badly. I'm guessing a minor fuckup becomes "I can't process the wage run for the whole company for who knows how long" badly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 05:42:48 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 25, 2017, 03:29:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 25, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 12:14:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2017, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: Freeky on April 24, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
My copy of Windows broke itself. Directly after doing a reset install, too. I am so sick of Windows and all its bullshit, and I can't afford a copy of Mac, so Linux it is! ADVENTURE!

Our work copy of Windows has been invalid for, like, the past 3 weeks.  I'm eagerly awaiting the moment that MS brick our reception PC for counterfeiting.

If it's win10 I think the cutoff is around 28 days.

I'm surprised they're using legit software. Probably one of the only places in the UK that is.

It's 7 still.  I think we have a licence which means, so long as this computer connects to the main server, it automatically validates it.

Thing is, of course, it's not doing that now.  You would think this might be some cause concern in IT, but they're too busy with a month-long WoW bender or something.  One presumes.

Main server probably repurposed as WoW private server.

Bitcoin miner or Eve online is my bet. Every IT department I've ever dealt with has been into at least one of these. Often both.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 25, 2017, 07:39:48 PM
Well, payroll is handled by another office.  It just means all of our records (like the fire list, student room records and the variety of checklists we are made to fill in every night) wont work.

This would not terribly upset me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 05:37:28 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 02:27:25 PM
We bought a car this weekend. My car is still in the shop waiting for a turbo, and Salty's van has tooooo many things wrong with it, so it was time to just buy something that will hopefully be reliable and low-maintenance. So we got another Volvo, a 1990 740 basic model sedan with 132k miles. It's gonna have problems, of course, but my experience with my old one was that everything except the wiring harness is cheap AF to replace.

One of the best decisions I've ever made was learning basic/intermediate auto maintenance. Garages here will rip you off for everything and anything and being able to sort basic problems yourself saves so much time and hassle it's unreal. With a Haynes manual and youtube/google you'd be surprised at what you can do when you're able to diagnose the issue correctly.

Yeah, that's what I did with my old one, back when I had time but no money. Chilton's better than Haynes IMO. The engines on these boxy fuckers are pretty well laid out and mostly very accessible. Now that I have neither time nor much money, the repairs are pretty much going to be up to Salty, which is fine because he's more interested in mechanical things than I am anyway. Plus it's his car. Mine's a 940 turbo luxury wagon, which I hope they can find a replacement turbocharger for soon because I miss my car with heated seats and automatic everything.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 09:04:21 PM
I just found out that a thing I thought I had to do today, I don't actually have to do. Yay for an hour and a half of extra time!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 25, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Headhunter at local company contacted me via linked in saying how awesome it'd be if I worked there given my experience .  I apply for grins and didn't fill out optional portions (resume and college transcript) because it said it linked with my linked in profile.

They're ok without the resume but they really need the transcript.

The transcript for a degree unrelated to the job from 12 years ago. 

K
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 10:34:56 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 25, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Headhunter at local company contacted me via linked in saying how awesome it'd be if I worked there given my experience .  I apply for grins and didn't fill out optional portions (resume and college transcript) because it said it linked with my linked in profile.

They're ok without the resume but they really need the transcript.

The transcript for a degree unrelated to the job from 12 years ago. 

K

That's weird. What do they need the transcript for, if you have the degree?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 26, 2017, 12:32:33 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 10:34:56 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 25, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Headhunter at local company contacted me via linked in saying how awesome it'd be if I worked there given my experience .  I apply for grins and didn't fill out optional portions (resume and college transcript) because it said it linked with my linked in profile.

They're ok without the resume but they really need the transcript.

The transcript for a degree unrelated to the job from 12 years ago. 

K

That's weird. What do they need the transcript for, if you have the degree?

Well, GPA was a grand filter about 10 years ago when they had paper applications for fresh out of college students.  They want people with "Academic Excellence."

Shouldn't be relevant for people currently working, but apparently they don't usually hire those already working in the field. 

Bit paranoid about how they talk about their benefits how they have a paid month sabbatical every 5 years.  I just want to know how many vacation days a year they have, it's nowhere on their benefits site.  Heard stories about their campus being awesome for the sole purpose of keeping people on campus all the time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 26, 2017, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 26, 2017, 12:32:33 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 10:34:56 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 25, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Headhunter at local company contacted me via linked in saying how awesome it'd be if I worked there given my experience .  I apply for grins and didn't fill out optional portions (resume and college transcript) because it said it linked with my linked in profile.

They're ok without the resume but they really need the transcript.

The transcript for a degree unrelated to the job from 12 years ago. 

K

That's weird. What do they need the transcript for, if you have the degree?

Well, GPA was a grand filter about 10 years ago when they had paper applications for fresh out of college students.  They want people with "Academic Excellence."

Shouldn't be relevant for people currently working, but apparently they don't usually hire those already working in the field. 

Bit paranoid about how they talk about their benefits how they have a paid month sabbatical every 5 years.  I just want to know how many vacation days a year they have, it's nowhere on their benefits site.  Heard stories about their campus being awesome for the sole purpose of keeping people on campus all the time.

Ah, that makes sense. They're just incompetent and potentially malicious.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 27, 2017, 02:30:44 AM
Why is it that when someone who usually has very little authority gets to be the boss of a situation, no matter how small or fleeting​, they magically transform into a little Napoleon? I have encountered two such people in the last week and it annoyed me more than I expected it to.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 03:26:04 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 27, 2017, 02:30:44 AM
Why is it that when someone who usually has very little authority gets to be the boss of a situation, no matter how small or fleeting​, they magically transform into a little Napoleon? I have encountered two such people in the last week and it annoyed me more than I expected it to.

I think it's because they feel powerless in almost every arena of their lives, so they overcompensate to a totally inappropriate level when they finally feel they have their chance.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 28, 2017, 04:20:20 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 03:26:04 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 27, 2017, 02:30:44 AM
Why is it that when someone who usually has very little authority gets to be the boss of a situation, no matter how small or fleeting​, they magically transform into a little Napoleon? I have encountered two such people in the last week and it annoyed me more than I expected it to.

I think it's because they feel powerless in almost every arena of their lives, so they overcompensate to a totally inappropriate level when they finally feel they have their chance.

I wonder if this is how kinks form.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 28, 2017, 06:52:01 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 03:26:04 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 27, 2017, 02:30:44 AM
Why is it that when someone who usually has very little authority gets to be the boss of a situation, no matter how small or fleeting​, they magically transform into a little Napoleon? I have encountered two such people in the last week and it annoyed me more than I expected it to.

I think it's because they feel powerless in almost every arena of their lives, so they overcompensate to a totally inappropriate level when they finally feel they have their chance.

There is probably some truth here. I had considered something similar. Some kind of getting back at whoever happens to be in the room when they finally get their chance at greatness, or whatever.

Also, someone in IRC mentioned something I hadn't thought of that I thought was interesting. Maybe their lack of familiarity with authority leaves them a little lost in such situations, so they latch on to some archetypal or stereotypical "authority figure" identity they only know from TV or their shitty father. "Bosses are assholes, and I'm the boss right now so I need to be an asshole if anyone's going to take me seriously". Maybe our present Asshole in Chief has a little bit of this going on as well.

There's probably not really much discussion to be had here. I just get annoyed at people who suddenly have all the power in the world (they think) and wield it exactly how people with power should not use their power.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 28, 2017, 10:09:49 AM
So lunch was meant to be included with the training. I don't really want to have lunch with the assholes I work with, but no big deal.

At the end of the official training, I go to the bathroom for 30 seconds.  I return, and everyone has already left to go to the lunch.  At an address I don't know, and can't find out, because a) I dont have access to my work emails and b) I didn't bring my phone with me.

I get back to my flat, and I have half a dozen messages on my phone about how "we're sorry you didn't want to join us for lunch." Assholes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on April 28, 2017, 10:22:13 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2017, 10:09:49 AM
So lunch was meant to be included with the training. I don't really want to have lunch with the assholes I work with, but no big deal.

At the end of the official training, I go to the bathroom for 30 seconds.  I return, and everyone has already left to go to the lunch.  At an address I don't know, and can't find out, because a) I dont have access to my work emails and b) I didn't bring my phone with me.

I get back to my flat, and I have half a dozen messages on my phone about how "we're sorry you didn't want to join us for lunch." Assholes.

Damn  :sad:

On the bright side lunch with assholes one works with usually sucks
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 28, 2017, 01:20:08 PM
Yeah, but free lunch though.  At a Lebanese place, no less.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 28, 2017, 06:52:01 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 03:26:04 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 27, 2017, 02:30:44 AM
Why is it that when someone who usually has very little authority gets to be the boss of a situation, no matter how small or fleeting​, they magically transform into a little Napoleon? I have encountered two such people in the last week and it annoyed me more than I expected it to.

I think it's because they feel powerless in almost every arena of their lives, so they overcompensate to a totally inappropriate level when they finally feel they have their chance.

There is probably some truth here. I had considered something similar. Some kind of getting back at whoever happens to be in the room when they finally get their chance at greatness, or whatever.

Also, someone in IRC mentioned something I hadn't thought of that I thought was interesting. Maybe their lack of familiarity with authority leaves them a little lost in such situations, so they latch on to some archetypal or stereotypical "authority figure" identity they only know from TV or their shitty father. "Bosses are assholes, and I'm the boss right now so I need to be an asshole if anyone's going to take me seriously". Maybe our present Asshole in Chief has a little bit of this going on as well.

There's probably not really much discussion to be had here. I just get annoyed at people who suddenly have all the power in the world (they think) and wield it exactly how people with power should not use their power.

That seems likely, as well. Perhaps it's a sort of combination of the two? People who have never been in a leadership position would typically have no idea how to lead, I suppose.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 09:33:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2017, 10:09:49 AM
So lunch was meant to be included with the training. I don't really want to have lunch with the assholes I work with, but no big deal.

At the end of the official training, I go to the bathroom for 30 seconds.  I return, and everyone has already left to go to the lunch.  At an address I don't know, and can't find out, because a) I dont have access to my work emails and b) I didn't bring my phone with me.

I get back to my flat, and I have half a dozen messages on my phone about how "we're sorry you didn't want to join us for lunch." Assholes.

That is a monumental dick move, WTF.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
Salty got me 23 & Me for my birthday.

Best boyfriend ever!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on April 28, 2017, 11:00:52 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
Salty got me 23 & Me for my birthday.

Best boyfriend ever!

yay!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 29, 2017, 12:35:20 AM
There is a distinctly crazy person in my open lab today. She's not in my section, which I can only be extremely grateful for, but she is requiring, um, a lot of supervision. Lab is packed because practicals are next week, and I have had to tell her not to hoard slides a couple times. Then she went to this other student and was like, "Can I have those slides I  gave you back?"

Dude, no, that is not how this works. Also, open lab is not your opportunity to get a private tutor for free because you missed or slept through the lecture.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 29, 2017, 03:33:35 AM
OH MY GOD I'M HOME AND IT'S MY BIRTHDAY AND IT'S THE WEEKEND!

I am torn between going to the store and getting yummy food and beer for Mr. S when he gets home with the boys, because he will surely need a beer, and being so fucking tired after working 12 hours yesterday and 10 hours today and something along those lines every day this week and also working Sunday. Which is why I don't post very much since starting grad school. Also because we are old folks at home and go to bed at 8 every chance we get. But I'm now home alone and bored and tired.

I'm sure you all wanted to know that super bad. You're welcome.

Also today I accidentally did a pretty thorough job of annihilating the pancreas on my lady cadaver. Whoops!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 29, 2017, 03:36:13 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on April 28, 2017, 11:00:52 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
Salty got me 23 & Me for my birthday.

Best boyfriend ever!

yay!!

I can't wait to find out whether I'm really Cherokee, or actually Jewish.

I hope I'm Jewish, that would be rad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 29, 2017, 05:37:24 AM
Happy birthday Nigel!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on April 29, 2017, 08:50:32 AM
Feliz anniversario, Nigel!
<hr>
Meanwhilez, on ze homecamp, Herr doktor Ratzenkraut maintains that my attempts to bury sleepers over a couple of dead-men perfectly illustrates the vanity of my denial, w.r.t. extending the zombie-retaining wall.  Ha-ha, I say :lulz:

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on April 29, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
Penblwydd Hapus a chi, Nigel

pen bloy th  Ha piss  A [as in apple] HHHHee [a strange sound rather like the ch in loch or that spitting noise that cats make]

tr. Happy Birthday to you, Nigel
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on April 29, 2017, 12:29:56 PM
Happy genetic testing birthday Nigel.

So, I finally saw Logan.  If more comic book movies were like that, I might actually watch them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on April 29, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
Ok, what am I missing here? Saw Deadpool, thought it was trying waaaay too hard at being fan-service, which got in the way of the comedy, and the action/violence was tepid at best, and without a knowing wink to the obvious sociopathy. Saw Logan, got absolutely no pathos, saw a distinct lack of chemistry between the actors, and the emotional beats and drama were anemic.

Is it just that the bar has been set really low, or is it that a comic's arc been reset with the Netflix model of spending 10 hours to tell a story? Because Jessica Jones and Luke Cage have been great.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 29, 2017, 05:41:03 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes, guys!

I really enjoyed Deadpool, but also I am a stranger to the whole comics world and had no expectations.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 29, 2017, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 29, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
Ok, what am I missing here? Saw Deadpool, thought it was trying waaaay too hard at being fan-service, which got in the way of the comedy, and the action/violence was tepid at best, and without a knowing wink to the obvious sociopathy. Saw Logan, got absolutely no pathos, saw a distinct lack of chemistry between the actors, and the emotional beats and drama were anemic.

Is it just that the bar has been set really low, or is it that a comic's arc been reset with the Netflix model of spending 10 hours to tell a story? Because Jessica Jones and Luke Cage have been great.

After 5 marvel films a year there's really nothing new that they bring to the table. If you've seen a few you can pretty much predict the beat of the film without even watching them. Opening whizz-bang, intro to secondary villain, origin story, whizz-bang with secondary villain, training montage/nod to character development, intro to main villain, scuffle with secondary villain that main villain gets involved with, end/or additional whizz-bang with main villain.

It's not just you, it's just the bar is this low and predictable. Just add appropriate catchphrases and Cgi.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on April 29, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
And happy birthday Nigel, crush your enemies and hear the lamentations of their women etc. Or however you people celebrate.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 29, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 29, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
And happy birthday Nigel, crush your enemies and hear the lamentations of their women etc. Or however you people celebrate.

DONE AND DONE.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 30, 2017, 06:56:46 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

What do you mean by all the good stuff? How would moving to the desert help? I'm sorry to hear you're possibly in(more of) a predicament.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

The desert allergens are fucking horrible.  They start about 18 months after you move here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on April 30, 2017, 07:57:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

The desert allergens are fucking horrible.  They start about 18 months after you move here.

Job rang. He says he's missing you  :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 01, 2017, 02:03:52 AM
Quote from: LMNO on April 29, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
Ok, what am I missing here? Saw Deadpool, thought it was trying waaaay too hard at being fan-service, which got in the way of the comedy, and the action/violence was tepid at best, and without a knowing wink to the obvious sociopathy. Saw Logan, got absolutely no pathos, saw a distinct lack of chemistry between the actors, and the emotional beats and drama were anemic.

Is it just that the bar has been set really low, or is it that a comic's arc been reset with the Netflix model of spending 10 hours to tell a story? Because Jessica Jones and Luke Cage have been great.

Superhero movies suck as a genre.  All of them.

The Keaton Batman made me dumber, and it's been downhill since then.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 01, 2017, 02:04:39 AM
Quote from: MMIX on April 30, 2017, 07:57:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

The desert allergens are fucking horrible.  They start about 18 months after you move here.

Job rang. He says he's missing you  :)

AND I ALONE HATH SURVIVED TO TELL THEE...Mostly because I hogged up all the Benedryl.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 01, 2017, 08:23:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

The desert allergens are fucking horrible.  They start about 18 months after you move here.

What allergens? Javelina poop and meth particles? Where I live the pollen and the mold are locked in a nuclear arms race vying for ultimate supremacy and I apparently have some bullshit they're calling a "hyper-reactive airway disease" which as near as I can tell is medical speak for "this is probably caused by a combination of environmental factors but without a shitload of expensive tests that aren't covered by your insurance we'll never know exactly what those are" so I imagine that anywhere drier and even slightly less allergenic (which is, basically, anywhere else in the world that people live) would be an improvement, medically speaking.

Of course, there's a whole fuck of a lot more to a man's quality of life than just being able to stay alive. But still, I'd be lying if I said that a year of struggling to breathe hasn't at least made me consider the idea.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ziegejunge on May 01, 2017, 04:26:42 PM
Happy belated, Nigel! Hope you enjoy your 23andMe results!!!!! That was an awesome gift!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 01, 2017, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Ziegejunge on May 01, 2017, 04:26:42 PM
Happy belated, Nigel! Hope you enjoy your 23andMe results!!!!! That was an awesome gift!

Thank you! I'm pretty stoked to find out from where in Africa my black ancestors hail, and also whether I am really Cherokee or actually Jewish.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 02, 2017, 01:59:24 AM
Geh that application that wanted my transcript is sending me emails about them calling and me not answering.  No missed calls on the only number provided.  No typos in number on application.  Idiots.

They make one of the largest healthcare database systems in the country, and from what I've seen of it I just wonder how many people actually work on it.  It shouldn't be that complex of a program yet somehow they made it so my current company's spiffy AI can't interface with it.

They've taken over a nearby town and I suspect most of the people are on site install techs and sales reps.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on May 02, 2017, 07:30:25 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

The desert allergens are fucking horrible.  They start about 18 months after you move here.

The shitty desert air is one of the reasons why I stayed the fuck up in the PNW.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 02, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

The desert allergens are fucking horrible.  They start about 18 months after you move here.

On a scale of 1 to Australia, how much does the desert want to kill you?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 02, 2017, 11:37:47 PM
Oh yay, the Princess is back.

The princess student couldn't possibly sleep without 2 duvets.  It's far too cold in the UK to do so, unlike her native Bulgaria (https://cdn.j2ski.com/i/j2ski_wallpaper_4.jpg).  Not only that, she will die of exposure unless the heating is fixed.  As she keeps reminding us, several times a day.  While looking down her nose at everyone because we don't drop everything we are doing to instantly solve her very dire problems.

She's here until Sunday.

She did this exact same thing last year, when she was also here for a week.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 02, 2017, 11:39:38 PM
Quote from: Trivial on May 02, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

The desert allergens are fucking horrible.  They start about 18 months after you move here.

On a scale of 1 to Australia, how much does the desert want to kill you?

Different deserts have different ratings. The Sonoran Desert wants you dead at a solid "Ciudad Juarez circa 2009". Luckily, people have appeased it by baking their brains out in the AZ afternoon sun, presenting themselves as slow-roasted human sacrifices to the the god of leather skin. It's almost better than killing us outright.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2017, 12:49:04 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 02, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Doc says I oughtta give up all the good stuff.

I asked for a second opinion, which turned out to be "or move to the desert".

Only way I'd do that is if I could get full custody of my daughter and move her with me. Only way I could do THAT is if I could afford a really good lawyer. Only way I could do THAT is if I end up taking this ship job, but the medical stuff might make it impossible for me to pass the physical to get my MMC. I've got a feeling I should go buy some lube before the universe decides to move on from the foreplay.

The desert allergens are fucking horrible.  They start about 18 months after you move here.

On a scale of 1 to Australia, how much does the desert want to kill you?

Paul Walker.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2017, 12:53:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 02, 2017, 11:37:47 PM
Oh yay, the Princess is back.

The princess student couldn't possibly sleep without 2 duvets.  It's far too cold in the UK to do so, unlike her native Bulgaria (https://cdn.j2ski.com/i/j2ski_wallpaper_4.jpg).  Not only that, she will die of exposure unless the heating is fixed.  As she keeps reminding us, several times a day.  While looking down her nose at everyone because we don't drop everything we are doing to instantly solve her very dire problems.

She's here until Sunday.

She did this exact same thing last year, when she was also here for a week.

Is she smart enough to recognize irony?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 03, 2017, 12:56:21 AM
Alas, no.  This is the truly unbearable aspect of my job, that my weaponised-grade sarcasm and irony are often unappreciated by people for whom English is a 4th language, behind their native language, Entitlement and Derp.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2017, 01:49:38 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 03, 2017, 12:56:21 AM
Alas, no.  This is the truly unbearable aspect of my job, that my weaponised-grade sarcasm and irony are often unappreciated by people for whom English is a 4th language, behind their native language, Entitlement and Derp.

See, this is where you see how far you can go before they realize you're laughing at them.

I mean, this is basic British, here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 03, 2017, 02:10:13 AM
There's nothing in the manual about what to do when you're one step away from printing off a translated sign in Mandarin stating "I am mocking you" and giving it to a student, because all other efforts have failed.

I mean, it's helping me cope, I suppose, so there is that.

In other news, a student ran back home and I was not informed, despite the student being in my care.  Said student was suffering a lot of stress from upcoming exams, and communicated her worries to my manager, who in his usual tactful manner, told her to come back in a week to discuss the issue, so his 4 day weekend would not be disturbed.  Naturally, this led to the student booking a flight back to China, and duly informing the school about 3 hours before she left.  This is especially remarkable because it came on the heels of our pointless "training", which dealt in part with assisting students with mental health issues.  Also remarkable because the student's departure went unnoticed because the only day staff member was on a break when she left the building.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 01:29:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2017, 01:49:38 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 03, 2017, 12:56:21 AM
Alas, no.  This is the truly unbearable aspect of my job, that my weaponised-grade sarcasm and irony are often unappreciated by people for whom English is a 4th language, behind their native language, Entitlement and Derp.

See, this is where you see how far you can go before they realize you're laughing at them.

I mean, this is basic British, here.

It's a lost cause over here. I was laughing into someones face a couple of weeks back. They joined in.

"No. Stop. I'm laughing at you, not with you, and you're ruining it".

No sense of decorum here anymore. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 03, 2017, 06:28:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 03, 2017, 02:10:13 AM
There's nothing in the manual about what to do when you're one step away from printing off a translated sign in Mandarin stating "I am mocking you" and giving it to a student, because all other efforts have failed.

I mean, it's helping me cope, I suppose, so there is that.

In other news, a student ran back home and I was not informed, despite the student being in my care.  Said student was suffering a lot of stress from upcoming exams, and communicated her worries to my manager, who in his usual tactful manner, told her to come back in a week to discuss the issue, so his 4 day weekend would not be disturbed.  Naturally, this led to the student booking a flight back to China, and duly informing the school about 3 hours before she left.  This is especially remarkable because it came on the heels of our pointless "training", which dealt in part with assisting students with mental health issues.  Also remarkable because the student's departure went unnoticed because the only day staff member was on a break when she left the building.

Jesus fuck.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 03, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
ECH, there's always Eastern WA!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 03, 2017, 06:29:03 PM
(Mostly kidding. But also kinda not.)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 04, 2017, 04:57:58 AM
I like the fact that many of my friends don't have typical jobs.  Today a friend of mine posted:

Does anyone have a screen tent I can borrow? I need to fill it with bees. Seriously.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:30:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 03, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
ECH, there's always Eastern WA!

Yeah, I used to hang out in the Tri Cities area and still have good friends there, but the wage scale for what I do isn't optimal. If I could find a job that would make the wage/cost of living equation look favorable I'd seriously consider it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 04, 2017, 06:30:40 PM
I've taken 2 doses of Benadryl, had 2 cups of coffee, a 5-hour energy, and a Mountain Dew in the past 4 hours. Apparently, the only reason I'm not having the worst Vasoconstriction Migraine I've ever had is because of the Niacin (Potent Vasodilator) included in the 5-hour energy.  :lulz:

Niacin has a much shorter half-life though, so it's likely going to be out of my system within the next hour  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 06:36:58 PM
For similar results, I hear meth is cheaper.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 04, 2017, 06:46:41 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 06:36:58 PM
For similar results, I hear meth is cheaper.

Nah, I actually feel pretty good.

Add in my generally low levels of Acetylcholine. Then, Diphenhydramine (Benadryl) is a potent anti-cholinergic, while the caffeine is a strong cholinergic. So that balances out to a bit higher than it should be, but not cholinergic crisis level. Not only that, but the 5-hour energy had enough L-Tyrosine and Phenylalanine to boost Dopamine production to the same as the Acetylcholine levels, pretty much creating a pretty even balance.

As I type this, the Niacin is wearing off. Hello all-day migraine, my old friend.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 04, 2017, 08:58:46 PM
I've sometimes wondered what a straight dose of dopamine hcl might be like. It can cause vascular restriction and lead to ischemia, but at a low enough dose would probably put any energy drink or amphetamine to shame for motivation and euphoria. A little norepinephrine and your likely going to be flying for hours.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 04, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on May 04, 2017, 08:58:46 PM
I've sometimes wondered what a straight dose of dopamine hcl might be like. It can cause vascular restriction and lead to ischemia, but at a low enough dose would probably put any energy drink or amphetamine to shame for motivation and euphoria. A little norepinephrine and your likely going to be flying for hours.

I experimented with a form of ASMR and discovered the ability to control it. I was able to trigger the sensation, and control its strength without the use of outside stimuli at one point. It was like flipping on the pleasure switch in my brain whenever I wanted. I ended up doing it so much, I must have run myself dangerously low of Norepinephrine and Dopamine, because after a certain point, I stopped feeling pleasure from it. It turned into pain, and almost became a tick, as the trigger started causing neck muscle twitches. I had to force constant human contact for weeks and avoid moving and twitching for weeks to get it to stop.

If the above situation was caused by manual release of norepinephrine and a dopaminergic reward association with said release, then I imagine "A little norepinephrine" would cause extreme dependence issues. Assuming, of course, that the norepinephrine release that you're likely referring to is induced by a releasing agent, not an injection of norepinephrine itself. An injection of either dopamine or norepinephrine would only have effects on blood pressure, heartrate, and the side effects those mechanisms are connected to. Injections of these neurotransmitters don't cross the Blood-brain barrier, so it wouldn't have the "high" you're referring to. But inducing release, blocking re-uptake of, or agonizing the receptors of those neurotransmitters would cause that high. Such is the basis of Amphetamines and similar drugs. Which explains the dependence issues associated with such drugs.

Moral of the story: Don't do drugs if you have a malfunctioning reward system and don't know how to control it. And don't do drugs often if you don't want your reward system to malfunction later on.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 05, 2017, 01:54:01 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 01:29:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2017, 01:49:38 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 03, 2017, 12:56:21 AM
Alas, no.  This is the truly unbearable aspect of my job, that my weaponised-grade sarcasm and irony are often unappreciated by people for whom English is a 4th language, behind their native language, Entitlement and Derp.

See, this is where you see how far you can go before they realize you're laughing at them.

I mean, this is basic British, here.

It's a lost cause over here. I was laughing into someones face a couple of weeks back. They joined in.

"No. Stop. I'm laughing at you, not with you, and you're ruining it".

No sense of decorum here anymore.

You're almost at America. 

When you laugh at someone and they holler that you're <insert political faction that you aren't>, you have gone full America.  You can preview it on Facebook.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on May 05, 2017, 05:40:15 AM
So today I found out TGRR, and I are scientists. As the heralds of Science please do the universe a far, and SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 05, 2017, 07:46:08 AM
Clearly scientists and engineers are two diametrically opposed mutually exclusive things and it would be simply impossible according to the laws of the universe for someone to do both things.

You're a fuckin' genius, you are. Thanks for SHOWING US WHAT, guy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 05, 2017, 07:51:54 AM
Also, when you say some dumb shit on facebook that you think is smart and you've said it in a thread that's already full of PD members you should probably come here and crow about it too because that's a great look and clearly we all need to give twice as many fucks.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you're a boring little turd of an edgelord and SHUT UP.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on May 05, 2017, 04:23:54 PM
Someone needs to keep the seats warm til RWHN makes his return.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 05, 2017, 04:53:59 PM
I just noticed the "Deserved it" status on Mr. Cuck, here. For some reason I assumed it was a brand new poptart account or something. Is he an oldspag gone hag? Or did an oldspag get their account hacked?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on May 05, 2017, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 05, 2017, 04:53:59 PM
I just noticed the "Deserved it" status on Mr. Cuck, here. For some reason I assumed it was a brand new poptart account or something. Is he an oldspag gone hag? Or did an oldspag get their account hacked?

The Jews
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 05, 2017, 10:41:23 PM
Quote from: Scott The Cuck on May 05, 2017, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 05, 2017, 04:53:59 PM
I just noticed the "Deserved it" status on Mr. Cuck, here. For some reason I assumed it was a brand new poptart account or something. Is he an oldspag gone hag? Or did an oldspag get their account hacked?

The Jews

HILLARYOUS




Anywho, turns out my caffeine tolerance was high enough to keep the vasoconstriction-induced headache within the range of about 20 minutes. Also, it appears that whatever was causing my allergies is inhibited by unending pouring rain. Woot woot.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on May 05, 2017, 10:45:42 PM
Quote from: Scott The Cuck on May 05, 2017, 04:23:54 PM
Someone needs to keep the seats warm til RWHN makes his return.

Your jokes about the guy who hasn't posted here in four years get funnier every time you make them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 05, 2017, 11:17:31 PM
Has it really been that long? Shit, I'm almost tempted to make a drugsanddrugs thread if only every possible angle hadn't been run into the ground. I'm still in recovery.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 06:13:03 AM
That's appalling.   :eek:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
Q:  Can you make Tony Blair look good?

A:  Theresa May.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAOHGODI'MSOSORRY
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on May 06, 2017, 10:03:16 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
Q:  Can you make Tony Blair look good?

A:  Theresa May.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAOHGODI'MSOSORRY

Q: What made Thatcherism so damn sexy

A: Tony Blair
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 06, 2017, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
Q:  Can you make Tony Blair look good?

A:  Theresa May.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAOHGODI'MSOSORRY

I take consolation in the fact that your next president is probably going to be Tom Cruise. But by that point the UK will probably be quite eager to vote for the rotting corpse of jimmy savile.

Saviles rotting corpse - The politician you can trust, just.not with your kids.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 06, 2017, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
Q:  Can you make Tony Blair look good?

A:  Theresa May.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAOHGODI'MSOSORRY

I take consolation in the fact that your next president is probably going to be Tom CruiseTed Nugent. But by that point the UK will probably be quite eager to vote for the rotting corpse of jimmy savile.

Saviles rotting corpse - The politician you can trust, just.not with your kids.

Fixed that little spasm of optimism you were having, there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 06, 2017, 07:48:27 PM
Nugent is a scientologist? Because that's what you're getting.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2017, 05:57:56 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 06, 2017, 07:48:27 PM
Nugent is a scientologist? Because that's what you're getting.

We are not even that fortunate.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Pergamos on May 07, 2017, 08:29:46 AM
I am working as a mason.  Well, general construction assistance, but at the moment I am assisting with masonry.  I am also building a teeny tiny castle from leftover rubble. So far the castle consists of an outline made of chicken wire.  I am excited about it and will probably post pics when it is done.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on May 07, 2017, 10:25:50 AM
That's cool. Doing some yard-work too. Was maybe going to use the chicken-wire to try and keep-out revenant moles. Looking forward to pics.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on May 08, 2017, 02:04:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 06, 2017, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
Q:  Can you make Tony Blair look good?

A:  Theresa May.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAOHGODI'MSOSORRY

I take consolation in the fact that your next president is probably going to be Ted Nugent Vincent Kennedy McMahon. But by that point the UK will probably be quite eager to vote for the rotting corpse of jimmy savile.

Saviles rotting corpse - The politician you can trust, just.not with your kids.

Fixed that little spasm of optimism you were having, there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 08, 2017, 02:11:21 AM
Quote from: Scott The Cuck on May 08, 2017, 02:04:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 06, 2017, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 06, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
Q:  Can you make Tony Blair look good?

A:  Theresa May.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAOHGODI'MSOSORRY

I take consolation in the fact that your next president is probably going to be Ted Nugent Vincent Kennedy McMahon. But by that point the UK will probably be quite eager to vote for the rotting corpse of jimmy savile.

Saviles rotting corpse - The politician you can trust, just.not with your kids.

Fixed that little spasm of optimism you were having, there.

I am totally okay with President McMahon.  By comparison, anyway.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on May 08, 2017, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2017, 05:57:56 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 06, 2017, 07:48:27 PM
Nugent is a scientologist? Because that's what you're getting.

We are not even that fortunate.

At least Scientologists have principles.  I mean, they're kind of batshit and horrible, but there's a surprising amount of consistency.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 08, 2017, 05:33:16 PM
Not dead. Waiting on some more feedback from the test reader before Holy Nonsense is released.

Narrowly averted having to punch someone square in the dick today. Do not send me infuriating 2am texts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on May 09, 2017, 02:23:09 AM
Happy late birthday Nigel!


I am also not dead. It's actually the hard drive that's borked. -shrug-
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 10, 2017, 12:54:50 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 08, 2017, 05:33:16 PM
Not dead. Waiting on some more feedback from the test reader before Holy Nonsense is released.

Narrowly averted having to punch someone square in the dick today. Do not send me infuriating 2am texts.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mMByDfFMPcE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mMByDfFMPcE)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 10, 2017, 01:42:36 AM
Have to give the MST3K guys credit, they managed to go a whole movie without commenting on Jayne Mansfield's bust.

Because when I noticed it, I couldn't not say something.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 10, 2017, 03:39:38 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 10, 2017, 01:42:36 AM
Have to give the MST3K guys credit, they managed to go a whole movie without commenting on Jayne Mansfield's bust.

Because when I noticed it, I couldn't not say something.

Jane Mansfield's bust was a national treasure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 10, 2017, 11:04:52 PM
Turns out the account they're moving me to is not only far less advanced than the one I'm currently on, but also has the same call volume in a week that I get in an hour on my current account. Also, I've just found out that the people who are on this new account conspired to get a fellow colleague of mine fired because they were annoyed by him.

He was very annoying and strange, but he was far smarter than any of them, and a much harder worker and was known to improve every system he was in. He didn't make employee of the month for nothing. He certainly didn't deserve what they did to him and his reputation.

The new team has 1, maybe 2 redeemable individuals on it. But most of them are old, bigoted, pieces of shit who get away with whatever they want because they've worked here for 10 years.

I was already promised leading responsibilities that the current tenure holder has. I believe he plans on retiring soon. Once he's gone, it'll be easy to take over the responsibilities of the rest of the team, and fill out the easiest smear report ever. Half of them will be cut from the team, and I will be taking a desirable pay raise.

But while I'm still in "training," it's all smiles   :evil:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 10, 2017, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 10, 2017, 11:04:52 PM
Turns out the account they're moving me to is not only far less advanced than the one I'm currently on, but also has the same call volume in a week that I get in an hour on my current account. Also, I've just found out that the people who are on this new account conspired to get a fellow colleague of mine fired because they were annoyed by him.

He was very annoying and strange, but he was far smarter than any of them, and a much harder worker and was known to improve every system he was in. He didn't make employee of the month for nothing. He certainly didn't deserve what they did to him and his reputation.

The new team has 1, maybe 2 redeemable individuals on it. But most of them are old, bigoted, pieces of shit who get away with whatever they want because they've worked here for 10 years.

I was already promised leading responsibilities that the current tenure holder has. I believe he plans on retiring soon. Once he's gone, it'll be easy to take over the responsibilities of the rest of the team, and fill out the easiest smear report ever. Half of them will be cut from the team, and I will be taking a desirable pay raise.

But while I'm still in "training," it's all smiles   :evil:

Can they be replaced by a script?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 11, 2017, 01:57:09 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 10, 2017, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 10, 2017, 11:04:52 PM
Turns out the account they're moving me to is not only far less advanced than the one I'm currently on, but also has the same call volume in a week that I get in an hour on my current account. Also, I've just found out that the people who are on this new account conspired to get a fellow colleague of mine fired because they were annoyed by him.

He was very annoying and strange, but he was far smarter than any of them, and a much harder worker and was known to improve every system he was in. He didn't make employee of the month for nothing. He certainly didn't deserve what they did to him and his reputation.

The new team has 1, maybe 2 redeemable individuals on it. But most of them are old, bigoted, pieces of shit who get away with whatever they want because they've worked here for 10 years.

I was already promised leading responsibilities that the current tenure holder has. I believe he plans on retiring soon. Once he's gone, it'll be easy to take over the responsibilities of the rest of the team, and fill out the easiest smear report ever. Half of them will be cut from the team, and I will be taking a desirable pay raise.

But while I'm still in "training," it's all smiles   :evil:

Can they be replaced by a script?

Or by less hostile human beings.

We have one (1) guy left who believes that snarling is the first option, and that skullduggery is more important than geekery.

He won't be around much longer, I gather.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 11, 2017, 05:55:29 PM
Quote from: Trivial on May 10, 2017, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 10, 2017, 11:04:52 PM
Turns out the account they're moving me to is not only far less advanced than the one I'm currently on, but also has the same call volume in a week that I get in an hour on my current account. Also, I've just found out that the people who are on this new account conspired to get a fellow colleague of mine fired because they were annoyed by him.

He was very annoying and strange, but he was far smarter than any of them, and a much harder worker and was known to improve every system he was in. He didn't make employee of the month for nothing. He certainly didn't deserve what they did to him and his reputation.

The new team has 1, maybe 2 redeemable individuals on it. But most of them are old, bigoted, pieces of shit who get away with whatever they want because they've worked here for 10 years.

I was already promised leading responsibilities that the current tenure holder has. I believe he plans on retiring soon. Once he's gone, it'll be easy to take over the responsibilities of the rest of the team, and fill out the easiest smear report ever. Half of them will be cut from the team, and I will be taking a desirable pay raise.

But while I'm still in "training," it's all smiles   :evil:

Can they be replaced by a script?

That's the funny part. Their extra responsibilities are easily done using the basic functions included in Excel reporting. And the information gathering itself can be done with a batch script written in 10 minutes.

The only thing a script can't do is answer the 1 call a day they might receive. When I replace all of their other major responsibilities with scripts, I'll also take over all of the call volume. When they're left with nothing to do, the client will realize that all of the ticket submission is being done by one person, while they're paying our company for 7 dedicated agents. A couple conversations with the client will have them cutting my company's contracted payment to have about 3 or 4 dedicated agents (Time-off and multiple shifts still have to be covered, of course.). I'll work in a deal to have the 1 or 2 redeemables kept on, and let the rest eat a bag of shit.

Next step after that will be to train my replacement as I become the Account Coordinator.

And here I was worried I was being thrown into a hole  :lulz:

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 11, 2017, 01:57:09 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 10, 2017, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 10, 2017, 11:04:52 PM
Turns out the account they're moving me to is not only far less advanced than the one I'm currently on, but also has the same call volume in a week that I get in an hour on my current account. Also, I've just found out that the people who are on this new account conspired to get a fellow colleague of mine fired because they were annoyed by him.

He was very annoying and strange, but he was far smarter than any of them, and a much harder worker and was known to improve every system he was in. He didn't make employee of the month for nothing. He certainly didn't deserve what they did to him and his reputation.

The new team has 1, maybe 2 redeemable individuals on it. But most of them are old, bigoted, pieces of shit who get away with whatever they want because they've worked here for 10 years.

I was already promised leading responsibilities that the current tenure holder has. I believe he plans on retiring soon. Once he's gone, it'll be easy to take over the responsibilities of the rest of the team, and fill out the easiest smear report ever. Half of them will be cut from the team, and I will be taking a desirable pay raise.

But while I'm still in "training," it's all smiles   :evil:

Can they be replaced by a script?

Or by less hostile human beings.

We have one (1) guy left who believes that snarling is the first option, and that skullduggery is more important than geekery.

He won't be around much longer, I gather.

Their experience with the company and account renders them immune to replacement. I wish it were that easy.

They're also organized, and meticulous. But their downfall will be their over-extended comfort and laziness.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 12, 2017, 01:59:19 AM
Quote from: PoFP on May 11, 2017, 05:55:29 PM
Their experience with the company and account renders them immune to replacement. I wish it were that easy.


The graveyards are full of irreplaceable people.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 12, 2017, 03:31:31 AM
Well, I had to get that promotion somehow.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 12, 2017, 03:33:21 AM
Working on another PhD proposal.  God I hate these things.  It's like applying for a job and writing a high level paper, all rolled into one.  Oh, you only want 2500 words on my proposal, in addition to my entire life and work history.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 12, 2017, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 12, 2017, 01:59:19 AM
Quote from: PoFP on May 11, 2017, 05:55:29 PM
Their experience with the company and account renders them immune to replacement. I wish it were that easy.


The graveyards are full of irreplaceable people.

Well, there's essentially no reason for my company to think they need to be replaced. Due to lack of in-house HR, my company is very morally lazy. Even if they found out what actually happened to my former colleague, they would rather keep the conspirators than deal with having to train replacements (Apparently the training is supposed to take 2 months lol). My only option is to point out that they are costing the company too much money for what they're worth.

Quote from: Cain on May 12, 2017, 03:31:31 AM
Well, I had to get that promotion somehow.

It's early and I'm unusually tired, so let me know if I just completely misunderstood what was going on. It took unusually long for me to even understand what Roger meant, so I'm not super confident in my comprehension skills at the moment.

I have the option of waiting a lot of extra time, and maybe, eventually getting the promotion, or I can fuck over some scumbags and get an early guaranteed promotion (Also, keep in mind that these people wouldn't be fired, they would be removed from the account and put onto another one. Another one that is likely higher volume with a greater workload. I'm not ruining anyone's career, just causing extreme inconvenience.). Are you implying that fucking over scumbags for the promotion is not the moral choice?


EDIT: Sorry, I'm retarded.

And also  :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2017, 03:07:03 PM
[Requia]

Cain implied that the only way to get a promotion is to kill his coworkers.

[/Requia]
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 12, 2017, 03:10:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 12, 2017, 03:07:03 PM
[Requia]

Cain implied that the only way to get a promotion is to kill his coworkers.

[/Requia]

Thank you for the clarification. I knew I felt unusually stupid for a reason.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 12, 2017, 10:37:45 PM
If irreplaceable people are going to keep on clogging up the system, they have to be made un-irreplaceable.

I recommend sharp knives, body bags and vats of acid.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2017, 10:48:10 PM
I'm going to need an update to my use of the word "implied".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 12, 2017, 10:52:15 PM
My avatar is a dagger through a skull which means "To The Death (http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/To_the_Death_(Inquisition))".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 13, 2017, 05:22:47 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 12, 2017, 10:48:10 PM
I'm going to need an update to my use of the word "implied".

Writing something down is implying, since you're not exactly saying it out loud?  8)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on May 14, 2017, 12:51:17 AM
I learned about the cone snail today and I am never going to the beach again.


QuoteFIFTY NANOGRAMS PER KILOGRAM HAS A 50% CHANCE OF KILLING YOU. A 220-POUND HUMAN HAS A 50% CHANCE OF SURVIVAL AGAINST JUST 5 MICROGRAMS OF CONOTOXIN. 

I DID SOME MATH. 

IT WOULD TAKE 7-9 MILLIGRAMS OF CONOTOXIN TO KILL A BLUE WHALE, THE HEAVIEST ANIMAL TO EVER LIVE.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: MMIX on May 14, 2017, 10:02:47 AM
This made me chuckle. Very short, short story by Chas Stross. Topical. Amusing
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2017/05/rejection-letter.html
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on May 14, 2017, 10:54:43 PM
I am officially allowed to say my wife is pregnant.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2017, 04:20:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on May 14, 2017, 10:54:43 PM
I am officially allowed to say my wife is pregnant.

:banana:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 15, 2017, 04:05:46 PM
Congratulations Don Coyote!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 02:20:58 AM
Co-worker is dealing with a station IT team that is demanding to know why our cloud doesn't have a load balancer.

:?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2017, 03:00:00 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 02:20:58 AM
Co-worker is dealing with a station IT team that is demanding to know why our cloud doesn't have a load balancer.

:?

wut
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on May 16, 2017, 05:11:25 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on May 15, 2017, 04:05:46 PM
Congratulations Don Coyote!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2017, 04:20:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on May 14, 2017, 10:54:43 PM
I am officially allowed to say my wife is pregnant.

:banana:

Thanks y'all
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 05:43:58 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 16, 2017, 03:00:00 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 02:20:58 AM
Co-worker is dealing with a station IT team that is demanding to know why our cloud doesn't have a load balancer.

:?

wut

yes, exactly
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 16, 2017, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 02:20:58 AM
Co-worker is dealing with a station IT team that is demanding to know why our cloud doesn't have a load balancer.

:?

I assume your cloud is made up on 1 server?  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 06:39:56 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 16, 2017, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 02:20:58 AM
Co-worker is dealing with a station IT team that is demanding to know why our cloud doesn't have a load balancer.

:?

I assume your cloud is made up on 1 server?  :lulz:

His name is Fred and he's a perfectly balanced individual.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2017, 06:58:19 PM
The Cloud, she cannae take the strain?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 16, 2017, 07:43:53 PM
The only typo I've ever made that I didn't regret   :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 16, 2017, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 12, 2017, 10:48:10 PM
I'm going to need an update to my use of the word "implied".

Implicit --> Explicit,

So Implied --> Explied, I suppose?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 10:33:43 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 16, 2017, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: Trivial on May 16, 2017, 02:20:58 AM
Co-worker is dealing with a station IT team that is demanding to know why our cloud doesn't have a load balancer.

:?

I assume your cloud is made up on 1 server?  :lulz:

So I guess they wanted a list of IPs to unblock, and we gave the domain name and port, and apparently they chewed out the guy for not having the cloud load balanced.

Which is still ???

Note:  This is also using Amazon's so...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on May 16, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
Can you tell if a system is set up for load balancing from a domain name? Surely the domain name could resolve to a machine/load balancing system/shitty home router
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 17, 2017, 01:24:33 AM
Quote from: Faust on May 16, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
Can you tell if a system is set up for load balancing from a domain name? Surely the domain name could resolve to a machine/load balancing system/shitty home router

Yes, I would think so, just as you have described.  They were angry he was giving a name and not an IP list, and wasn't willing to grab the infrastructure guy at an odd hour of the night.  They dropped the call suddenly saying they were good, which makes me think someone tried the firewall exemption by name, or just rebooted the box that ingests the data.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Pæs on May 17, 2017, 07:59:22 AM
Quote from: Faust on May 16, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
Can you tell if a system is set up for load balancing from a domain name? Surely the domain name could resolve to a machine/load balancing system/shitty home router
You can often gather enough information to make a reasonable guess here. DNS load balancing is easily detected.

In the more common case of a load balancing appliance:

Does the number of domains which resolve to the same IP exceed what is likely for virtual hosts on a single box? Not conclusive, good indication. Does it set common load balancing, sticky session cookies like BigIP, AWSELB, etc? It's either load balanced or someone is trolling you. When requests are repeated, do headers switch between a few static values, or if sequential values are included, can they be separated into more than one sequence? Good indication. At a certain point you have to start getting tricky with traffic analysis deeper into the packet, where success depends on how intrusive the appliance is.

EDIT: This isn't just telling 'from a domain', but given a domain you can take further steps to fingerprint things.

From the sounds of it, I doubt these guys did any of that, given that they wanted to balance the load between one server. Or were they mad because they presumed load would exceed one endpoint? What was their objective in unblocking IPs?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 17, 2017, 04:17:02 PM
I'm starting to feel less horrible this last week or so. It would be wrong to say that the depression is lifting, but I'm beginning to feel like one day it will enough to get myself minimally functional again. Right now just glad to have a day notably less bad than I've grown used to these last couple years. For now I just keep taking the pills, going to councilor and doctor appointments, and waiting for the paperwork to get processed. If there wasn't such a bad bedbug infestation in my shitty rooming-house I could even be content.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2017, 04:26:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 12, 2017, 03:33:21 AM
Working on another PhD proposal.  God I hate these things.  It's like applying for a job and writing a high level paper, all rolled into one.  Oh, you only want 2500 words on my proposal, in addition to my entire life and work history.

Easily the worst thing about academia is all the fucking proposals and reports and grant applications. Seriously, why the fuck does a progress report need multiple revisions?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2017, 04:27:32 PM
Quote from: Freeky on May 14, 2017, 12:51:17 AM
I learned about the cone snail today and I am never going to the beach again.


QuoteFIFTY NANOGRAMS PER KILOGRAM HAS A 50% CHANCE OF KILLING YOU. A 220-POUND HUMAN HAS A 50% CHANCE OF SURVIVAL AGAINST JUST 5 MICROGRAMS OF CONOTOXIN. 

I DID SOME MATH. 

IT WOULD TAKE 7-9 MILLIGRAMS OF CONOTOXIN TO KILL A BLUE WHALE, THE HEAVIEST ANIMAL TO EVER LIVE.

My people.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2017, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on May 14, 2017, 10:54:43 PM
I am officially allowed to say my wife is pregnant.

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 17, 2017, 08:26:41 PM
Quote from: Pæs on May 17, 2017, 07:59:22 AM
Quote from: Faust on May 16, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
Can you tell if a system is set up for load balancing from a domain name? Surely the domain name could resolve to a machine/load balancing system/shitty home router
You can often gather enough information to make a reasonable guess here. DNS load balancing is easily detected.

In the more common case of a load balancing appliance:

Does the number of domains which resolve to the same IP exceed what is likely for virtual hosts on a single box? Not conclusive, good indication. Does it set common load balancing, sticky session cookies like BigIP, AWSELB, etc? It's either load balanced or someone is trolling you. When requests are repeated, do headers switch between a few static values, or if sequential values are included, can they be separated into more than one sequence? Good indication. At a certain point you have to start getting tricky with traffic analysis deeper into the packet, where success depends on how intrusive the appliance is.

EDIT: This isn't just telling 'from a domain', but given a domain you can take further steps to fingerprint things.

From the sounds of it, I doubt these guys did any of that, given that they wanted to balance the load between one server. Or were they mad because they presumed load would exceed one endpoint? What was their objective in unblocking IPs?

They weren't getting weather data from the cloud service which isn't hosted on our systems, and from our side it looked like they weren't allowing it to come in.  We weren't seeing any traffic issues.  They didn't want to unblock by name - no idea why - I wasn't on that call.  It spiraled into a rant about infrastructure which seemed to not make sense, then made sense, and then upon further analysis, made even less sense. 

And again the whole thing was ended abruptly with someone saying "it works now."   


Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 17, 2017, 10:46:59 PM
Also, having to say the phrase "weather data from cloud" makes me angry.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 18, 2017, 04:38:11 AM
Needed to get epipens for my daughter for like the first time ever.  I was way too entertained by the fact that they have one that talks now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Pæs on May 18, 2017, 10:08:37 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 17, 2017, 08:26:41 PM
It spiraled into a rant about infrastructure which seemed to not make sense, then made sense, and then upon further analysis, made even less sense. 

And again the whole thing was ended abruptly with someone saying "it works now."
:lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on May 18, 2017, 10:40:51 AM
We have the ask three times rule here at work as we believe all IT admins are under religious obligation to lie the first two times:

"Have you opened port 443 for our system?"
"Yes"
[COMMS FAIL TO ESTABLISH]
"Really?"
"Yes"
"Really?"
"OK fine I'll open it now"
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 18, 2017, 11:39:19 AM
How often do you get the "I'm sure I did, but why don't you just talk me through how I would have done that" guy? I've got a client like this at the moment and it's maddening. It's OK to not know. It's OK to know fuck all. Just fucking say that rather than this endless dance of pretending you've got a clue. It's increasing the workload by a third.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on May 18, 2017, 11:55:54 AM
The people who know absolutely nothing are generally open about it and you can walk them through it. Its the ones who know just enough and panic when they think they are expected to know, they will mess you around. Of course they are not as bad as the ones that you send requests to, that you might as well have sent the messages into a black hole, you are never going to get a response from them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2017, 01:45:41 PM
Speaking of black holes with no response....

We've now been 5 weeks without a valid copy of Windows in the main office.  Fortunately Windows 7 doesn't freeze access after a certain amount of time has passed, but it does mean the computer has not been updated in a very long time...I'm just waiting for a worm to infect our machine and propagate through the entire school system.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on May 18, 2017, 01:52:34 PM
Sounds like a perfect time to print out your paper trail of emails and memos referencing this security gap...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2017, 01:56:33 PM
Already done.

As well as an article I wrote for the law firm I consult with on WCry and how human failure in updating security applications is the key factor in the spread of the ransomware.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on May 18, 2017, 03:11:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 18, 2017, 01:56:33 PM
Already done.

As well as an article I wrote for the law firm I consult with on WCry and how human failure in updating security applications is the key factor in the spread of the ransomware.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on May 18, 2017, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 18, 2017, 01:56:33 PM
Already done.

As well as an article I wrote for the law firm I consult with on WCry and how human failure in updating security applications is the key factor in the spread of the ransomware.

Who needs rubberhose cryptography when people are just too lazy/stupid keep their software updated.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on May 18, 2017, 06:26:21 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2017, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on May 14, 2017, 10:54:43 PM
I am officially allowed to say my wife is pregnant.

Congratulations!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on May 18, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Anyone here ever have those days when they walk into Chipotle and go "Today is a two burrito kinda day..."?






Today is that day  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on May 18, 2017, 07:49:04 PM
Quote from: PoFP on May 18, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Anyone here ever have those days when they walk into Chipotle and go "Today is a two burrito kinda day..."?






Today is that day  :lulz:

I've dared many things in my life, but I've never dared that...

...though now I feel like I should.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2017, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on May 18, 2017, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 18, 2017, 01:56:33 PM
Already done.

As well as an article I wrote for the law firm I consult with on WCry and how human failure in updating security applications is the key factor in the spread of the ransomware.

Who needs rubberhose cryptography when people are just too lazy/stupid keep their software updated.

Yeah.  To be fair, Microsoft updates have, in the past, broken Windows programs and functionality, requiring a re-patch two days later, but when something's a critical update to patch a vulnerability from a cache of NSA exploits that was sold on the darknets to interwebs h4xx0rz of undetermined origins....that's one where you might want to err on the side of safety.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2017, 04:55:18 AM
After putting it off for 7 years, I finally got eyeglasses.

I can now drive using something other than the force as my guide.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 21, 2017, 12:37:46 AM
I'm having a low-energy, paralyzed-with-anxiety kind of day. I have five readings and four reviews to write, plus my progress report, plus a statement of ethics. I have done none of these, but I have made it to the store and started some French Onion soup, so I guess I'm not totally useless.

I am supposed to be on my way to my best friend's house to help her paint her new ADU, but my onions are still caramelizing so...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 21, 2017, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2017, 04:55:18 AM
After putting it off for 7 years, I finally got eyeglasses.

I can now drive using something other than the force as my guide.

I fear for other drivers and pedestrians everywhere. We were all probably safer when you were aiming blindly, the idea that you can target effectively now is chilling.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 21, 2017, 02:17:10 AM
I realized today that I am somewhat racist against middle-aged Italian guys who have mustaches, if they also own a mechanic shop. I don't know how to feel about this other than ashamed and a little bit confused.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2017, 03:29:11 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 21, 2017, 02:17:10 AM
I realized today that I am somewhat racist against middle-aged Italian guys who have mustaches, if they also own a mechanic shop. I don't know how to feel about this other than ashamed and a little bit confused.

It's a me, Mario!

(https://supermariorun.com/img/stage/mario03.png)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 21, 2017, 03:40:44 AM
No no, not just any Italian guy. He has to be a mechanic. Plumbers are fine.

ETA: Maybe it isn't the Italian part, maybe it's the mechanic part. The guy just happened to be Italian this time. Is "mechanic" a race?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2017, 03:54:40 AM
It's actually a plane of existence (https://mimir.net/mechanus/index.shtml).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 21, 2017, 05:05:34 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 21, 2017, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2017, 04:55:18 AM
After putting it off for 7 years, I finally got eyeglasses.

I can now drive using something other than the force as my guide.

I fear for other drivers and pedestrians everywhere. We were all probably safer when you were aiming blindly, the idea that you can target effectively now is chilling.

Those green and white smudgy things are SIGNS.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 21, 2017, 05:26:28 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 21, 2017, 03:54:40 AM
It's actually a plane of existence (https://mimir.net/mechanus/index.shtml).

My life's goal is to have this much free time. Seriously, what the fuck.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 21, 2017, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 21, 2017, 12:37:46 AM
I'm having a low-energy, paralyzed-with-anxiety kind of day. I have five readings and four reviews to write, plus my progress report, plus a statement of ethics. I have done none of these, but I have made it to the store and started some French Onion soup, so I guess I'm not totally useless.

I am supposed to be on my way to my best friend's house to help her paint her new ADU, but my onions are still caramelizing so...

As a person suffering crippling depression and social anxiety I approve of your choice in soup and wish I had access to a stove and suitable utensils fit to achieve such a marvelous thing as french onion soup. I'm just saying if all you can do is make soup, it's doing better than some of us soupless bastards out there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 21, 2017, 10:14:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 21, 2017, 05:05:34 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 21, 2017, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2017, 04:55:18 AM
After putting it off for 7 years, I finally got eyeglasses.

I can now drive using something other than the force as my guide.

I fear for other drivers and pedestrians everywhere. We were all probably safer when you were aiming blindly, the idea that you can target effectively now is chilling.

Those green and white smudgy things are SIGNS.

Don't you mean targets? I was told the state hobby is shooting such intrusions of big gubment
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on May 21, 2017, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 21, 2017, 05:26:28 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 21, 2017, 03:54:40 AM
It's actually a plane of existence (https://mimir.net/mechanus/index.shtml).

My life's goal is to have this much free time. Seriously, what the fuck.

Consider for a moment how many people can tell you minute details of an endless list of fantasy worlds. It's terrifying.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 21, 2017, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 21, 2017, 10:14:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 21, 2017, 05:05:34 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 21, 2017, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2017, 04:55:18 AM
After putting it off for 7 years, I finally got eyeglasses.

I can now drive using something other than the force as my guide.

I fear for other drivers and pedestrians everywhere. We were all probably safer when you were aiming blindly, the idea that you can target effectively now is chilling.

Those green and white smudgy things are SIGNS.

Don't you mean targets? I was told the state hobby is shooting such intrusions of big gubment

Those are mostly stop signs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 22, 2017, 02:54:51 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on May 21, 2017, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 21, 2017, 12:37:46 AM
I'm having a low-energy, paralyzed-with-anxiety kind of day. I have five readings and four reviews to write, plus my progress report, plus a statement of ethics. I have done none of these, but I have made it to the store and started some French Onion soup, so I guess I'm not totally useless.

I am supposed to be on my way to my best friend's house to help her paint her new ADU, but my onions are still caramelizing so...

As a person suffering crippling depression and social anxiety I approve of your choice in soup and wish I had access to a stove and suitable utensils fit to achieve such a marvelous thing as french onion soup. I'm just saying if all you can do is make soup, it's doing better than some of us soupless bastards out there.

It was not such a terrible day, I admit. And now we have soup.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 22, 2017, 03:00:34 AM
Today Salty and I urban-hiked down to Swan Island, up through the University of Portland campus, down to the McCormick & Baxter parcel of the Portland Harbor Superfund site, across to the Willamette Cove parcel, and out to St. Johns through the mostly-invisible remnants of the abandoned business park or whatever it was. Then we took the bus home, which went through the New Columbia Villa, Portland's dirty little secret ie. ghetto. It's like a whole little city inside a city, just for brown people!

Now we are home and drinking delicious shandies like bourgeoisie scum.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 22, 2017, 02:07:24 PM
So, I've been looking into the South Sudan civil war, because the SPLA have, unsurprisingly, killed a whole bunch of civilians, and raped and tortured a bunch besides.

Breaking news: the Nuer White Army are trash.  The SPLA are trash.  The SSLM are trash.  Cobra Command, despite having an awesome name, are definitely trash.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 22, 2017, 04:53:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 22, 2017, 02:07:24 PM
So, I've been looking into the South Sudan civil war, because the SPLA have, unsurprisingly, killed a whole bunch of civilians, and raped and tortured a bunch besides.

Breaking news: the Nuer White Army are trash.  The SPLA are trash.  The SSLM are trash.  Cobra Command, despite having an awesome name, are definitely trash.

American news media is, as usual, giving coverage of unrest in African countries pretty much zero coverage, so I know next to nothing about this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 22, 2017, 06:03:15 PM
It's sort of been slow-burning for a while too, which doesn't help.  Basically, the South Sudanese President and Vice-President have been feuding from back in the days when they were all guerrillas hiding out in the Sudanese badlands.  The President fired the VP in 2013, along with the rest of his cabinet.  Later on that same year, a militia group closely associated with the VP started some serious fighting in the capital.  The President says the VP is attempting a coup.  The VP says the President is a dictator.

Cue lots of fighting, though UN peacekeepers manage to deter the worst of it, in the early days. 

Everyone also decides this is the best time to settle any ethnic or tribal disputes, because of course they do.  Militias eventually work their way up to "killing hundreds of people inside mosques" before the leaders decide to sit down and talk.

Cue lots of ceasefires in name only and general bullshittery.

Eventually, last year, the VP and President agreed on terms.  Only, while the ink hasn't even dried on the paper, the President overhauls the entire political system to further his own ethnic chauvinist goals, at the expense of two of the main ethnic groups among the rebels led by the VP.  Fighting breaks out again in the capital, and the VP flees.

The army follows the VP's trail to a town, and slaughters over a hundred people, burns down three villages, and then settles down for some good old-fashioned raping, looting and torturing.  Which is exactly what the army did 7 years ago while supposedly disarming rebels.  Meanwhile, the VP goes from the DRC to North Sudan to South Africa, where in a rare display of common sense the South African authorities put him under house arrest.

All this happened last year, but the UN finally compiled its report on the massacre, so...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on May 23, 2017, 08:04:30 PM
Jesus fuck, Cain.  :eek:




Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on May 23, 2017, 08:05:28 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 22, 2017, 03:00:34 AM
Today Salty and I urban-hiked down to Swan Island, up through the University of Portland campus, down to the McCormick & Baxter parcel of the Portland Harbor Superfund site, across to the Willamette Cove parcel, and out to St. Johns through the mostly-invisible remnants of the abandoned business park or whatever it was. Then we took the bus home, which went through the New Columbia Villa, Portland's dirty little secret ie. ghetto. It's like a whole little city inside a city, just for brown people!

Now we are home and drinking delicious shandies like bourgeoisie scum.

That sounds so awesome! Well, the hike in general.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on May 23, 2017, 08:07:56 PM
So, me getting the kittens was probably the best thing I could have done for my mental health. I've been in a state of recovery ever since, and while I'm not perfect, I'm entertaining ideas of starting my own business, which is just making and selling teas, which is simple enough. I am aware that that is not all that'll be required of me, but I'm still working on logistics anyway, so whatever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 23, 2017, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: Freeky on May 23, 2017, 08:07:56 PM
So, me getting the kittens was probably the best thing I could have done for my mental health. I've been in a state of recovery ever since, and while I'm not perfect, I'm entertaining ideas of starting my own business, which is just making and selling teas, which is simple enough. I am aware that that is not all that'll be required of me, but I'm still working on logistics anyway, so whatever.

That's really awesome!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 24, 2017, 12:39:09 AM
Happy birthday, Cain!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 24, 2017, 12:45:52 AM
Thanks, though the birthday on my FB profile is fake.

But then, the Queen can have two birthdays, so I can as well. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 24, 2017, 12:46:47 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 24, 2017, 12:45:52 AM
Thanks, though the birthday on my FB profile is fake.

But then, the Queen can have two birthdays, so I can as well.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, KEYSER SOOOOOOOZE, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUU

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 24, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
My parents went to Rome on a United flight and now Trump is there.  I'm waiting to see if they'll end up in the news somehow.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2017, 04:30:54 AM
For $49 I can buy an Alexa Dot and have it call up my congressman and  hurl abuse on him on command.

Already ordered it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 25, 2017, 04:54:54 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2017, 04:30:54 AM
For $49 I can buy an Alexa Dot and have it call up my congressman and  hurl abuse on him on command.

Already ordered it.

I just got a couple when the refurbs went on sale.

I think you can use this:  https://ifttt.com/connect/amazon_alexa/phone_call  and then some sort of random insult generator attached.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2017, 04:58:45 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 25, 2017, 04:54:54 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2017, 04:30:54 AM
For $49 I can buy an Alexa Dot and have it call up my congressman and  hurl abuse on him on command.

Already ordered it.

I just got a couple when the refurbs went on sale.

I think you can use this:  https://ifttt.com/connect/amazon_alexa/phone_call  and then some sort of random insult generator attached.

Thanks!

I can just link it to "Talk Like Warren Ellis".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2017, 07:14:30 PM
I'm grading quizzes and holy shit I have no idea what happened while I was gone, but apparently it wasn't learning digestive anatomy. At all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 25, 2017, 07:38:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2017, 07:14:30 PM
I'm grading quizzes and holy shit I have no idea what happened while I was gone, but apparently it wasn't learning digestive anatomy. At all.

As an aspiring artist with a penchant for zombies, learning digestive anatomy is totally on my todo list :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2017, 01:02:33 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 25, 2017, 07:38:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2017, 07:14:30 PM
I'm grading quizzes and holy shit I have no idea what happened while I was gone, but apparently it wasn't learning digestive anatomy. At all.

As an aspiring artist with a penchant for zombies, learning digestive anatomy is totally on my todo list :lulz:

The hard part is the dissection. They didn't even have to DO it; just LOOK at it. I am taking it from their quiz scores that they did not.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2017, 01:03:25 AM
I have spent way too much time dealing with and touching a dead guy's balls today. I have a feeling the next class is also going to demand a lot of guided tours through his balls.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 26, 2017, 02:03:11 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2017, 01:03:25 AM
I have spent way too much time dealing with and touching a dead guy's balls today. I have a feeling the next class is also going to demand a lot of guided tours through his balls.

Everyone needs a hobby?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on May 26, 2017, 02:08:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2017, 04:58:45 AM
Quote from: Trivial on May 25, 2017, 04:54:54 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2017, 04:30:54 AM
For $49 I can buy an Alexa Dot and have it call up my congressman and  hurl abuse on him on command.

Already ordered it.

I just got a couple when the refurbs went on sale.

I think you can use this:  https://ifttt.com/connect/amazon_alexa/phone_call  and then some sort of random insult generator attached.

Thanks!

I can just link it to "Talk Like Warren Ellis".

Alexa project so far: Calendar and to do function is nice.  Just set it up to receive and make phone calls, but cannot get it to select an individual device.  Both devices "ring" when calling it.  Was attempting an intercom setup, but it's more like calling your own landline.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2017, 10:00:27 PM
Quote from: Trivial on May 26, 2017, 02:03:11 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2017, 01:03:25 AM
I have spent way too much time dealing with and touching a dead guy's balls today. I have a feeling the next class is also going to demand a lot of guided tours through his balls.

Everyone needs a hobby?

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2017, 10:01:47 PM
Now I'm doing open lab and I'm pretty sure the next two hours are going to be almost entirely about the dead guy's balls.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 27, 2017, 01:39:02 AM
Finally, the heat has hit the office.

There's no actual heatwave per se in the UK right now, but once it gets above a certain outside temperature, the inside temperature here rises dramatically, due to terrible venting.

Which means we have about 50 million complaints from students about it being too hot to sleep or study.  Every year,without fail, this happens.  And every year, without fail, no-one looks into installing air conditioning or similar.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 27, 2017, 02:01:09 AM
Working from home today, on the newest project.  Told the operators to call me if anything weird happens.

The chilled water system went tits-up, due to a modulating valve blowing a fuse.  The operator decides to wander around the tank farm trying to find a pump not running (the control room panel tells you if that's not happening).  The first thing I know about it is a call from an occupant's engineer, wondering why his air handling system is full of hot water.

Problem is fixed now, but heads are going to roll on Monday.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: minuspace on May 27, 2017, 04:04:29 AM
Looks like I'm gonna need an ODB reader, at the very least. And my mourning dove died today. Sucks.  I'm going to start double-spacing my periods again, because this has not been my best millennium on record.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 27, 2017, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2017, 01:39:02 AM
Finally, the heat has hit the office.

There's no actual heatwave per se in the UK right now, but once it gets above a certain outside temperature, the inside temperature here rises dramatically, due to terrible venting.

Which means we have about 50 million complaints from students about it being too hot to sleep or study.  Every year,without fail, this happens.  And every year, without fail, no-one looks into installing air conditioning or similar.
:horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 27, 2017, 07:27:28 PM
The other thing that could solve this problem would be to remove all window restrictors.  It wouldn't be perfect, but it would allow more of the hot air to leave, so it would be cooler in the evenings and overnight.  This is against the law, as student accommodations are required to have restricted windows, but given their attitude to other health and safety laws, you'd think that wouldn't bother them.

But no.  In this particular case, they follow the law to the letter.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 27, 2017, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2017, 07:27:28 PM
The other thing that could solve this problem would be to remove all window restrictors.  It wouldn't be perfect, but it would allow more of the hot air to leave, so it would be cooler in the evenings and overnight.  This is against the law, as student accommodations are required to have restricted windows, but given their attitude to other health and safety laws, you'd think that wouldn't bother them.

But no.  In this particular case, they follow the law to the letter.

Oh FFS

It's like they WANT the place to be a disaster in waiting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 27, 2017, 08:09:20 PM
There's a reason I've taken all of July as my holiday time  :lulz:  Between the summer school students and the heat, this place is going to be a shitshow.

And I'm going to be somewhere in central Europe, visiting places of Culture and affordable, cold beer instead.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on May 28, 2017, 12:37:39 AM
SWEET MERCIFUL FUCK THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW GALAKTIKON ALBUM.

That is all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on May 28, 2017, 12:38:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2017, 08:09:20 PM
There's a reason I've taken all of July as my holiday time  :lulz:  Between the summer school students and the heat, this place is going to be a shitshow.

And I'm going to be somewhere in central Europe, visiting places of Culture and affordable, cold beer instead.

Lucky bastard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 30, 2017, 12:22:11 AM
Welllll so my car which just came out of the shop and cost about $1050 to fix just broke down, stranding Salty and li'l Salty at the side of the road in Washington.

FML
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on May 30, 2017, 01:25:39 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 30, 2017, 12:22:11 AM
Welllll so my car which just came out of the shop and cost about $1050 to fix just broke down, stranding Salty and li'l Salty at the side of the road in Washington.

FML

Fuck
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on May 30, 2017, 03:13:43 AM
A coolant hose snapped/melted/tore off, so I removed the broken bit and crammed the hose back on without its sensor, or whatever, and now I'm back and beer/bed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on May 30, 2017, 12:30:09 PM
Why ride when you can walk?  We make a special trip for you, same low price.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 02, 2017, 12:05:00 AM
Lightning vagina is a thing apparently.  Also not as cool as it sounds.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 12:23:07 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 02, 2017, 12:05:00 AM
Lightning vagina is a thing apparently.  Also not as cool as it sounds.

It can't be as cool as it sounds.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 02, 2017, 12:29:20 AM
Quote from: Salty on May 30, 2017, 03:13:43 AM
A coolant hose snapped/melted/tore off, so I removed the broken bit and crammed the hose back on without its sensor, or whatever, and now I'm back and beer/bed.

You are a magnificent beast.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 02, 2017, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 02, 2017, 12:05:00 AM
Lightning vagina is a thing apparently.  Also not as cool as it sounds.

More like SUDDEN CROTCH STAB STAB STAB.

I hate that shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
First incidence of shitpocalypse in the wild *may* have just happened in the Ukraine.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: 00.dusk on June 02, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
First incidence of shitpocalypse in the wild *may* have just happened in the Ukraine.

That's /impressive/ to look at. The street just... disintegrates.

I want to know more about this now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Salty on June 02, 2017, 04:00:00 PM
Turns out all my ranting here on PD has resulted in many transferable skills. I am getting an A in Public Speaking, that's for sure. Rants and speeches are, in many ways, very similar. And I always envision myself at the pulpit when I get a hot one.

Also, just reasoning in general. It's very helpful in school. Today my group is presenting logical fallacies to my public speaking class. Before I came here I had no idea about them.

So, thanks for the A, y'all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 02, 2017, 04:20:58 PM
Woot!

:banana:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 02, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
First incidence of shitpocalypse in the wild *may* have just happened in the Ukraine.

That's /impressive/ to look at. The street just... disintegrates.

I want to know more about this now.

Do you really?  Will your life be better or worse for knowing how your toilet will one day kill you?

Anyway, this was the "not enough water" version, not the "too much ammonia" version.  You can tell because everyone didn't suddenly puke up their lungs and die.

ETA:  This shouldn't really have happened for another 5 years or so, but Dave and I should get another bonus anyway.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 02, 2017, 08:25:25 PM
Quote from: Salty on June 02, 2017, 04:00:00 PM
Turns out all my ranting here on PD has resulted in many transferable skills. I am getting an A in Public Speaking, that's for sure. Rants and speeches are, in many ways, very similar. And I always envision myself at the pulpit when I get a hot one.

Also, just reasoning in general. It's very helpful in school. Today my group is presenting logical fallacies to my public speaking class. Before I came here I had no idea about them.

So, thanks for the A, y'all.

It is kind of INCREDIBLY nice to discover that all that time spent hammering out ideas and arguing about them online turns out to be an actually valuable useful skill that people pay tons of money to spend years learning how to do.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: 00.dusk on June 04, 2017, 12:55:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 02, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
First incidence of shitpocalypse in the wild *may* have just happened in the Ukraine.

That's /impressive/ to look at. The street just... disintegrates.

I want to know more about this now.

Do you really?  Will your life be better or worse for knowing how your toilet will one day kill you?

Anyway, this was the "not enough water" version, not the "too much ammonia" version.  You can tell because everyone didn't suddenly puke up their lungs and die.

ETA:  This shouldn't really have happened for another 5 years or so, but Dave and I should get another bonus anyway.

Oh, I'm not connected to a water treatment facility. I live in humble Central Florida, where we put our poo in the ground and pull our water out of it.

Incidentally, I drink only bottled water for that reason. You can smell the micro-organisms when you turn on the tap.

"Not enough water" causing such a spectacular explosion is incredible. I'm not sure how much detail you can go into, but I really, truly am in fact curious. The shitpocalypse is nigh and I simply must understand its terrible secrets.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2017, 03:59:34 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 04, 2017, 12:55:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 02, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
First incidence of shitpocalypse in the wild *may* have just happened in the Ukraine.

That's /impressive/ to look at. The street just... disintegrates.

I want to know more about this now.

Do you really?  Will your life be better or worse for knowing how your toilet will one day kill you?

Anyway, this was the "not enough water" version, not the "too much ammonia" version.  You can tell because everyone didn't suddenly puke up their lungs and die.

ETA:  This shouldn't really have happened for another 5 years or so, but Dave and I should get another bonus anyway.

Oh, I'm not connected to a water treatment facility. I live in humble Central Florida, where we put our poo in the ground and pull our water out of it.

Incidentally, I drink only bottled water for that reason. You can smell the micro-organisms when you turn on the tap.

"Not enough water" causing such a spectacular explosion is incredible. I'm not sure how much detail you can go into, but I really, truly am in fact curious. The shitpocalypse is nigh and I simply must understand its terrible secrets.

It's been known for decades - since the advent of factory farming - that shit that doesn't move starts to exotherm (google "pig farms horrible bubble shotgun" for laughs).  In pipes, there are two things to keep in mind: If water is pushing shit faster than the speed that the exothermic reaction occurs, then all is well with the world.  If there is enough water to soak up the heat, also good.

If the shit is moving too slowly and there is not enough water to absorb the heat, then the heat climbs in a curve that looks like an inverted logarithm...ie, loads of heat really fast, then a very slow continual increase.  The point where the reaction begins reaches the boiling point of water, and then more or less flashes into steam.  This spreads both directions in the pipe, with the pressure growing as the cube of the volume, with all the heated shit expanding as well, until either it reaches a release point (ie, your toilet), or the pipe explodes.

It's worth noting that the shit in the center of the explosion would be intensely hot, but most of the moving mass would be less than 40C.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 04, 2017, 06:30:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2017, 03:59:34 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 04, 2017, 12:55:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 02, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
First incidence of shitpocalypse in the wild *may* have just happened in the Ukraine.

That's /impressive/ to look at. The street just... disintegrates.

I want to know more about this now.

Do you really?  Will your life be better or worse for knowing how your toilet will one day kill you?

Anyway, this was the "not enough water" version, not the "too much ammonia" version.  You can tell because everyone didn't suddenly puke up their lungs and die.

ETA:  This shouldn't really have happened for another 5 years or so, but Dave and I should get another bonus anyway.

Oh, I'm not connected to a water treatment facility. I live in humble Central Florida, where we put our poo in the ground and pull our water out of it.

Incidentally, I drink only bottled water for that reason. You can smell the micro-organisms when you turn on the tap.

"Not enough water" causing such a spectacular explosion is incredible. I'm not sure how much detail you can go into, but I really, truly am in fact curious. The shitpocalypse is nigh and I simply must understand its terrible secrets.

It's been known for decades - since the advent of factory farming - that shit that doesn't move starts to exotherm (google "pig farms horrible bubble shotgun" for laughs).  In pipes, there are two things to keep in mind: If water is pushing shit faster than the speed that the exothermic reaction occurs, then all is well with the world.  If there is enough water to soak up the heat, also good.

If the shit is moving too slowly and there is not enough water to absorb the heat, then the heat climbs in a curve that looks like an inverted logarithm...ie, loads of heat really fast, then a very slow continual increase.  The point where the reaction begins reaches the boiling point of water, and then more or less flashes into steam.  This spreads both directions in the pipe, with the pressure growing as the cube of the volume, with all the heated shit expanding as well, until either it reaches a release point (ie, your toilet), or the pipe explodes.

It's worth noting that the shit in the center of the explosion would be intensely hot, but most of the moving mass would be less than 40C.

Things like this sometimes makes me wonder if pigs were even required to power Bartertown. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 04, 2017, 05:01:30 PM
I have discovered a fun new thing, inspired by Titus on Kimmy Schmidt.

1. Find a group full of young sprightly neckbeards
2. Wait for a thread in which someone mentions IQ
3. Talk about having a very high IQ
4. Argue that the IQ scale only goes to 100 and everyone who says they have an IQ over 100 is either lying or too dumb to understand how it works
5. Enjoy
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 05, 2017, 05:04:19 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 04, 2017, 05:01:30 PM
I have discovered a fun new thing, inspired by Titus on Kimmy Schmidt.

1. Find a group full of young sprightly neckbeards
2. Wait for a thread in which someone mentions IQ
3. Talk about having a very high IQ
4. Argue that the IQ scale only goes to 100 and everyone who says they have an IQ over 100 is either lying or too dumb to understand how it works
5. Enjoy

Oh.

Oh, this is brilliant. :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 05, 2017, 06:20:15 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 04, 2017, 05:01:30 PM
I have discovered a fun new thing, inspired by Titus on Kimmy Schmidt.

1. Find a group full of young sprightly neckbeards
2. Wait for a thread in which someone mentions IQ
3. Talk about having a very high IQ
4. Argue that the IQ scale only goes to 100 and everyone who says they have an IQ over 100 is either lying or too dumb to understand how it works
5. Enjoy
:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: 00.dusk on June 05, 2017, 11:03:08 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2017, 03:59:34 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 04, 2017, 12:55:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 02, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
First incidence of shitpocalypse in the wild *may* have just happened in the Ukraine.

That's /impressive/ to look at. The street just... disintegrates.

I want to know more about this now.

Do you really?  Will your life be better or worse for knowing how your toilet will one day kill you?

Anyway, this was the "not enough water" version, not the "too much ammonia" version.  You can tell because everyone didn't suddenly puke up their lungs and die.

ETA:  This shouldn't really have happened for another 5 years or so, but Dave and I should get another bonus anyway.

Oh, I'm not connected to a water treatment facility. I live in humble Central Florida, where we put our poo in the ground and pull our water out of it.

Incidentally, I drink only bottled water for that reason. You can smell the micro-organisms when you turn on the tap.

"Not enough water" causing such a spectacular explosion is incredible. I'm not sure how much detail you can go into, but I really, truly am in fact curious. The shitpocalypse is nigh and I simply must understand its terrible secrets.

It's been known for decades - since the advent of factory farming - that shit that doesn't move starts to exotherm (google "pig farms horrible bubble shotgun" for laughs).  In pipes, there are two things to keep in mind: If water is pushing shit faster than the speed that the exothermic reaction occurs, then all is well with the world.  If there is enough water to soak up the heat, also good.

If the shit is moving too slowly and there is not enough water to absorb the heat, then the heat climbs in a curve that looks like an inverted logarithm...ie, loads of heat really fast, then a very slow continual increase.  The point where the reaction begins reaches the boiling point of water, and then more or less flashes into steam.  This spreads both directions in the pipe, with the pressure growing as the cube of the volume, with all the heated shit expanding as well, until either it reaches a release point (ie, your toilet), or the pipe explodes.

It's worth noting that the shit in the center of the explosion would be intensely hot, but most of the moving mass would be less than 40C.

I've spent a couple days thinking on this. All I can think of is that I /wish/ I had your job.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2017, 12:19:56 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 05, 2017, 11:03:08 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2017, 03:59:34 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 04, 2017, 12:55:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 02, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 02, 2017, 02:26:26 AM
First incidence of shitpocalypse in the wild *may* have just happened in the Ukraine.

That's /impressive/ to look at. The street just... disintegrates.

I want to know more about this now.

Do you really?  Will your life be better or worse for knowing how your toilet will one day kill you?

Anyway, this was the "not enough water" version, not the "too much ammonia" version.  You can tell because everyone didn't suddenly puke up their lungs and die.

ETA:  This shouldn't really have happened for another 5 years or so, but Dave and I should get another bonus anyway.

Oh, I'm not connected to a water treatment facility. I live in humble Central Florida, where we put our poo in the ground and pull our water out of it.

Incidentally, I drink only bottled water for that reason. You can smell the micro-organisms when you turn on the tap.

"Not enough water" causing such a spectacular explosion is incredible. I'm not sure how much detail you can go into, but I really, truly am in fact curious. The shitpocalypse is nigh and I simply must understand its terrible secrets.

It's been known for decades - since the advent of factory farming - that shit that doesn't move starts to exotherm (google "pig farms horrible bubble shotgun" for laughs).  In pipes, there are two things to keep in mind: If water is pushing shit faster than the speed that the exothermic reaction occurs, then all is well with the world.  If there is enough water to soak up the heat, also good.

If the shit is moving too slowly and there is not enough water to absorb the heat, then the heat climbs in a curve that looks like an inverted logarithm...ie, loads of heat really fast, then a very slow continual increase.  The point where the reaction begins reaches the boiling point of water, and then more or less flashes into steam.  This spreads both directions in the pipe, with the pressure growing as the cube of the volume, with all the heated shit expanding as well, until either it reaches a release point (ie, your toilet), or the pipe explodes.

It's worth noting that the shit in the center of the explosion would be intensely hot, but most of the moving mass would be less than 40C.

I've spent a couple days thinking on this. All I can think of is that I /wish/ I had your job.

All Dave and I did was proof of concept.  Someone else gets to do the actual chemistry with regard to fixing the problem (seriously, who does that?)

What else I do:  Deal with operators who are all, in one way or another, freaks.  One is so butthurt that he didn't get my job when the last guy quit that he's decided that insubordination is the answer.  It isn't, of course.  Another one is a bona-fide genius who gets continually frustrated when he gets pulled off of one job and handed 3 more (welcome to infrastructure maintenance, big guy!), and of course the old time who has been there forever and knows the plant like the back of his hand but nobody has ever been arsed to ask him anything until now.  And my neckbeard keeps wanting to not document his time (he's hourly) because he's been yelled at for years for actually trying to collect overtime.  "Oh, I just fixed that on the weekend.  I didn't bother logging it because it was only 6 hours on Saturday night."

Other things:  Get given problems I know nothing about, and go hire people who do know.  Then keep everyone else from SGitR-ing on them while they figure out what I hired them to figure out.  I have recently adopted the strategy of hiring people on the other end of the country and then not giving their contact information to anyone other than the accountants.  Ever.  Nobody needs that shit, and nothing they or I can do will do anything other than fuck the experts up and get in the way of the answers. 

In many ways, it is the dream job.  Right now our cooling towers are stuffed full of legionella, and we can't kill it with chlorine because the mud in the bottom is too thick.  I can't have guys come in and muck them out, because legionella.  So now me and the guys have to figure out how to do one before the other, without disturbing the muck while the tower is in operation (or we'll have dead American Legionnaires stacked up to the main gate).  And we can't just shut them off because of heat making the shit wander around, too.

I love this shit.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: 00.dusk on June 06, 2017, 02:43:36 AM
They're going to /fix/ it? That's a waste of a perfectly good toxic filthsplosion.

It's a good thing I'm not in charge on second thought, because my solution to the legionella problem would be "Buy some disposable Racal suits with external air supply and set up a positive pressure entryway for the muckers." Bonus: you now have spare kit lying around if something nasty forms or you have a real horrible chemical start leaking.

But that sort of thing tends to make news crews terrify the locals with outright lies.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2017, 03:43:28 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 06, 2017, 02:43:36 AM
They're going to /fix/ it? That's a waste of a perfectly good toxic filthsplosion.

It's a good thing I'm not in charge on second thought, because my solution to the legionella problem would be "Buy some disposable Racal suits with external air supply and set up a positive pressure entryway for the muckers." Bonus: you now have spare kit lying around if something nasty forms or you have a real horrible chemical start leaking.

But that sort of thing tends to make news crews terrify the locals with outright lies.

The thought had crossed our minds.  (Hell, OSHA only requires a dust mask, but this is a special case on account of neglect allowing the legionella to develop an advanced, space-faring culture.)

But it's 106F outside, and the guys in the suits would die of heat stroke long before the job was done.

So we're probably going to slam the towers with live steam one at a time and then test the muck, then clean them out, THEN drown everything in bleach.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2017, 03:51:49 AM
Found this today.

It is absolutely guaranteed to burn down any facebook page you post it on.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gen-x-ruined-the-world-too
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Eater of Clowns on June 06, 2017, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2017, 03:51:49 AM
Found this today.

It is absolutely guaranteed to burn down any facebook page you post it on.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gen-x-ruined-the-world-too
:lulz:

Shitting on Empire Records alone is enough to send probably half my friends sputtering.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 06, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
That was a wonderful read.

However, I do have a question:  Do African-Americans born around 1970 consider themselves "Generation X"? I'm not sure I've seen an essay or cultural artifact about GenX that isn't about privileged white people. 

I mean, I know that the so-called 'golden age' of hip hop* happened during the GenX heyday, which (as the article points out) also benefitted from the unusually good economy; but apart from ironic appropriation I'm not sure that 'typical' GenX culture and the black culture at that time ever really mixed.

Then again, seeing as how I'm a privileged white GenX-type person, there's a good possibility I'm simply blind to it.







*I consider pre-Biggie/Tupac/Puffy to be more of a "Golden Age", to be honest.  The explosion of the hip hop industry seemed to overshadow acts like Public Enemy, KRS-One, the Native Tongues collective, Ultramagnetic MCs, etc.  Then again, I was a punk boy, and never really liked grunge all that much so I'm guessing my hipster is showing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2017, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on June 05, 2017, 05:04:19 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 04, 2017, 05:01:30 PM
I have discovered a fun new thing, inspired by Titus on Kimmy Schmidt.

1. Find a group full of young sprightly neckbeards
2. Wait for a thread in which someone mentions IQ
3. Talk about having a very high IQ
4. Argue that the IQ scale only goes to 100 and everyone who says they have an IQ over 100 is either lying or too dumb to understand how it works
5. Enjoy

Oh.

Oh, this is brilliant. :lulz:

:thanks:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 06, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
That was a wonderful read.

However, I do have a question:  Do African-Americans born around 1970 consider themselves "Generation X"? I'm not sure I've seen an essay or cultural artifact about GenX that isn't about privileged white people. 

I mean, I know that the so-called 'golden age' of hip hop* happened during the GenX heyday, which (as the article points out) also benefitted from the unusually good economy; but apart from ironic appropriation I'm not sure that 'typical' GenX culture and the black culture at that time ever really mixed.

Then again, seeing as how I'm a privileged white GenX-type person, there's a good possibility I'm simply blind to it.







*I consider pre-Biggie/Tupac/Puffy to be more of a "Golden Age", to be honest.  The explosion of the hip hop industry seemed to overshadow acts like Public Enemy, KRS-One, the Native Tongues collective, Ultramagnetic MCs, etc.  Then again, I was a punk boy, and never really liked grunge all that much so I'm guessing my hipster is showing.

Yes, black people of the same age range do consider themselves Gen X, though of course their interactions with culture were very different especially given that era was the height of the War on Black People Drugs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2017, 04:31:36 PM
Unfortunately, while that article touches on some absolutely factual aspects of the experience of being the "forgotten generation", its critique, ironically, entirely revolves around the very upper-and-middle-class culture values of self-absorption that the poorer members of generation X felt so disillusioned by. If one pays attention, the cultural narrative of GenX is that it was the first generation that simply could not expect to do better, economically, than their parents, as well as, simultaneously, feeling voiceless in the wake of the much larger and more powerful Baby Boomer generation, leaving them directionless in the limbo of meh. It was a time during which it seemed that idealism was hopeless, that no one would ever listen and we couldn't change anything. I think it's the (fairly understandable) combination of hopelessness and powerlessness that is the defining characteristic of GenX, and it's that which meaningfully influenced the direction of Millennial culture. Millennials care, but instead of trying to change the world, they try to change a tiny sphere in which they live.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 06, 2017, 04:49:25 PM
Thanks for that analysis, Nigel.  I'm only now remembering that the book "Generation X" even contained something to that effect.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:16:18 PM
I do find it ironic that the complaint about millenials is being brand obsessed, when I can plug "millenials killed X" into Google and get back about a billion hot takes on industries millenials are willfuly and maliciously destroying by not buying things (definitely not because they don't have money). 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2017, 08:21:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:16:18 PM
I do find it ironic that the complaint about millenials is being brand obsessed, when I can plug "millenials killed X" into Google and get back about a billion hot takes on industries millenials are willfuly and maliciously destroying by not buying things (definitely not because they don't have money).

Yeah, casting millennials as a brand-obsessed consumer culture seems a bit uhhhhhhhh projective.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 07, 2017, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.

They saw what we did to the Radio Star, and TMBG's dog with the hiphop and the white funk and whatnot. They just wanted to impress us with their murderous prowess.

Well color me impressed, Millennials. Make em suffer. Like we made that damn dog suffer.  :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 07, 2017, 01:39:58 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 06, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
That was a wonderful read.

However, I do have a question:  Do African-Americans born around 1970 consider themselves "Generation X"? I'm not sure I've seen an essay or cultural artifact about GenX that isn't about privileged white people. 

Did you miss the part about being self-absorbed?  Gen X never hated Black people, IIRC, just forgot they were there.

QuoteI mean, I know that the so-called 'golden age' of hip hop* happened during the GenX heyday, which (as the article points out) also benefitted from the unusually good economy; but apart from ironic appropriation I'm not sure that 'typical' GenX culture and the black culture at that time ever really mixed.

See above.

At one of the horrible alt-right cesspools I have been keeping an eye on, some horrible fuck said, with his bare face hanging out:

QuoteRock n roll was pretty cool before blacks stole it off of Bill Haley.

Pretty sure the asshole who said that is a Gen Xer, but also not very typical.

QuoteThen again, seeing as how I'm a privileged white GenX-type person, there's a good possibility I'm simply blind to it.

I know I am.


Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 07, 2017, 01:42:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:16:18 PM
I do find it ironic that the complaint about millenials is being brand obsessed, when I can plug "millenials killed X" into Google and get back about a billion hot takes on industries millenials are willfuly and maliciously destroying by not buying things (definitely not because they don't have money).

I just saw some article about millenials not buying diamonds, and nobody knows why.

Maybe we finally raised a generation too smart to attach months or years of work to a tiny piece of rock that you can make by the ton for cheap, just because it formed naturally/

Naw.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 07, 2017, 01:57:06 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.

Hey, Business Insider says it's our preferences, so it MUST be so! But at least it's the Baby Boomers' fault.

http://www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomers-caused-millennials-destructive-spending-habits-2017-6
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 07, 2017, 02:28:51 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 07, 2017, 01:42:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:16:18 PM
I do find it ironic that the complaint about millenials is being brand obsessed, when I can plug "millenials killed X" into Google and get back about a billion hot takes on industries millenials are willfuly and maliciously destroying by not buying things (definitely not because they don't have money).

I just saw some article about millenials not buying diamonds, and nobody knows why.

Maybe we finally raised a generation too smart to attach months or years of work to a tiny piece of rock that you can make by the ton for cheap, just because it formed naturally/

Naw.

I mean, we probably would.  My generation are retarded (see: "meme magic made Donald Trump President").  Bust most people in my generation can barely afford rent, food and mobile/netflix subscriptions.  A decade of stagnant wages on top of low, but credible amounts of inflation doesn't leave a lot of spare cash in the pocket. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 07, 2017, 05:09:45 AM
I just spent the last few hours playing with my grand-niece and grand-nephew, and how the hell did that happen I swear I was 22 like just 3 fucking weeks ago.

:eek:

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 07, 2017, 02:41:25 PM
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Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 07, 2017, 01:57:06 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.

Hey, Business Insider says it's our preferences, so it MUST be so! But at least it's the Baby Boomers' fault.

http://www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomers-caused-millennials-destructive-spending-habits-2017-6

I LOVE that not spending money on frivolous consumer goods has been re-labeled "destructive spending habits". Boomers pioneered actually destructive spending habits in a gluttony of consumerism that literally threatens the future of life on  this planet, but Millennials just not buying shit is "destructive".
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 07, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
So, it turns out, that when approaching a stopped mail delivery vehicle at high speed, and you see that there is another vehicle behind it, the correct course of action is to GUN IT.

This is the message I am receiving from local law enforcement.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 07, 2017, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 07, 2017, 01:57:06 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.

Hey, Business Insider says it's our preferences, so it MUST be so! But at least it's the Baby Boomers' fault.

http://www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomers-caused-millennials-destructive-spending-habits-2017-6

I LOVE that not spending money on frivolous consumer goods has been re-labeled "destructive spending habits". Boomers pioneered actually destructive spending habits in a gluttony of consumerism that literally threatens the future of life on  this planet, but Millennials just not buying shit is "destructive".
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

"Business Insider" knows its target demographic.  And it ain't the kids.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 07, 2017, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 07, 2017, 01:57:06 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.

Hey, Business Insider says it's our preferences, so it MUST be so! But at least it's the Baby Boomers' fault.

http://www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomers-caused-millennials-destructive-spending-habits-2017-6

I LOVE that not spending money on frivolous consumer goods has been re-labeled "destructive spending habits". Boomers pioneered actually destructive spending habits in a gluttony of consumerism that literally threatens the future of life on  this planet, but Millennials just not buying shit is "destructive".
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

"Business Insider" knows its target demographic.  And it ain't the kids.

"Damn kids! Stop your destructive spending habits and start spending money you don't have on items you don't need, like we did in the 80's!"
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on June 07, 2017, 04:12:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 07, 2017, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 07, 2017, 01:57:06 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.

Hey, Business Insider says it's our preferences, so it MUST be so! But at least it's the Baby Boomers' fault.

http://www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomers-caused-millennials-destructive-spending-habits-2017-6

I LOVE that not spending money on frivolous consumer goods has been re-labeled "destructive spending habits". Boomers pioneered actually destructive spending habits in a gluttony of consumerism that literally threatens the future of life on  this planet, but Millennials just not buying shit is "destructive".
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

"Business Insider" knows its target demographic.  And it ain't the kids.
Even from a business point of view, if the demand is isn't there, the problem isn't with the consumer. Then again if the article was "your media is obsolete, there is no demand for your product", I can imagine it would have gone down like a lead balloon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 07, 2017, 04:15:38 PM
I feel like we can cross-reference this with Trump's desperate need to bring back coal production.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on June 07, 2017, 04:22:25 PM
That's true actually, in fact trying to protect inefficient practices or obsolete products at the expense of innovation... Trump is the villain of an Ayn Rand novel, he is literally the enemy of John Galt
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 07, 2017, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.

Brb, actively targeting a whole industry for murder.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 07, 2017, 11:54:37 PM
diabetic again  :argh!:

going to have even more fun trying to gain weight
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 12:54:13 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 07, 2017, 11:54:37 PM
diabetic again  :argh!:

going to have even more fun trying to gain weight

Ahhhhh lame!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 12:55:33 AM
Quote from: Faust on June 07, 2017, 04:22:25 PM
That's true actually, in fact trying to protect inefficient practices or obsolete products at the expense of innovation... Trump is the villain of an Ayn Rand novel, he is literally the enemy of John Galt

How hilarious that irony would be, if it wasn't also so terrifying.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 08, 2017, 01:52:59 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 12:54:13 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 07, 2017, 11:54:37 PM
diabetic again  :argh!:

going to have even more fun trying to gain weight

Ahhhhh lame!

I'm up only 3lbs. At 28 weeks.  This kid has amazing metabolism or something. This is not how the other one went at all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 08, 2017, 01:52:59 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 12:54:13 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 07, 2017, 11:54:37 PM
diabetic again  :argh!:

going to have even more fun trying to gain weight

Ahhhhh lame!

I'm up only 3lbs. At 28 weeks.  This kid has amazing metabolism or something. This is not how the other one went at all.

That's super weird! Well shit, as long as you have enough reserves (crossing fingers) for you and the sprog.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 08, 2017, 05:29:20 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 08, 2017, 01:52:59 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 12:54:13 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 07, 2017, 11:54:37 PM
diabetic again  :argh!:

going to have even more fun trying to gain weight

Ahhhhh lame!

I'm up only 3lbs. At 28 weeks.  This kid has amazing metabolism or something. This is not how the other one went at all.

That's super weird! Well shit, as long as you have enough reserves (crossing fingers) for you and the sprog.

I'ma eat a whole jar of peanut butter.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 08, 2017, 07:48:43 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 07, 2017, 01:57:06 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
Millenials killed soap, for fucks sake.

I had to Google "Millennials killed" to see what popped up, and holy shit, as far as I can tell, Millennials are just ruining the shit out of just about everything.

Not economic conditions or a changing information landscape. Nope, Millennials are specifically and personally killing all the things.

Hey, Business Insider says it's our preferences, so it MUST be so! But at least it's the Baby Boomers' fault.

http://www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomers-caused-millennials-destructive-spending-habits-2017-6

I LOVE that not spending money on frivolous consumer goods has been re-labeled "destructive spending habits". Boomers pioneered actually destructive spending habits in a gluttony of consumerism that literally threatens the future of life on  this planet, but Millennials just not buying shit is "destructive".
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

I know right? I just love it. I'm filled with HA HA HA HA HA HA *stab stab stab stab* just thinking about it, because it's obviously MY fault that I live in poverty and can't afford to go out to Buffalo Wild Wings or buy my clothes at Macy's.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2017, 12:56:12 AM
Got my bonus cheque for the shitpocalypse thing. 

:eek:

I'm gonna go buy my senator.

:banana:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 09, 2017, 12:50:45 PM
AND they pay you well.


Sounds like the definition of a dream job!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2017, 08:29:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2017, 12:50:45 PM
AND they pay you well.


Sounds like the definition of a dream job!

It doesn't even feel like a job.   :fap:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2017, 01:57:05 AM
Also, the best boss ever is staying.  :banana:

Tucson takes no all the prisoners.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 12, 2017, 06:30:10 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 07, 2017, 02:41:25 PM
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Hi Twid! Hope all's well for you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 12, 2017, 01:36:26 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on June 12, 2017, 06:30:10 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 07, 2017, 02:41:25 PM
(https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/5/5e/Dr._Riviera.png/revision/latest?cb=20120509073411)
Hi Twid! Hope all's well for you.

Things are pretty good, I'm mostly settled into my new place
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2017, 03:12:01 AM
This just made everything worthwhile.  Everything.  Global warming, incipient fascism, the heartbreak of psoriasis.  IT WAS ALL WORTH IT JUST FOR THIS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dULOjT9GYdQ
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2017, 05:07:43 AM
I feel much the same upon learning internet Nazis are crying over the new Wolfenstein game involving shooting Nazis.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 13, 2017, 05:15:09 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2017, 05:07:43 AM
I feel much the same upon learning internet Nazis are crying over the new Wolfenstein game involving shooting Nazis.

What is fun is when there is a guy in the thread complaining that said nazis are just trolls and not real, and if they were he's not anything like one.  Then follows up in another thread that only white men have ended wars.

He's not really a nazi or sexist or anything, he's just saying things that must be known. He has this knowledge, must share it!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2017, 05:34:55 AM
Surely if there are no more Nazis, it's OK to shoot them in video games?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 13, 2017, 06:58:08 AM
So I've always kept an open mind with nazis, like maybe they're just misunderstood and all they really want is to be loved (sans joos) or some shit but they be hating on Wolfenstein? Naw, fuck 'em, pile them up and burn the bastards  :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 13, 2017, 01:07:57 PM
The fragility of nazis was not something I was prepared for in the new zeitgeist. It is most amusing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 13, 2017, 01:54:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 13, 2017, 01:07:57 PM
The fragility of nazis was not something I was prepared for in the new zeitgeist. It is most amusing.

YOINK
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on June 13, 2017, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 13, 2017, 01:07:57 PM
The fragility of nazis was not something I was prepared for in the new zeitgeist. It is most amusing.

Who would ever have thought that proponents of a inherently flawed ideology would be less than stable themselves?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
My students seem to think there is a serial cat burglar breaking into kitchens to put toasters in there, and they are very concerned about it.

Please kill me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 13, 2017, 10:14:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
My students seem to think there is a serial cat burglar breaking into kitchens to put toasters in there, and they are very concerned about it.

Please kill me.

That is hilariously bizarre.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
I went and put toasters in their kitchens.  Because some toasters broke and needed to be replaced.  So naturally they assume someone a) broke in and b) left a fully functional toaster there for no good reason.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 13, 2017, 10:21:16 PM
Clearly, you had ulterior motives in replacing their toasters. You're a menace to society and need to be stopped.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 13, 2017, 10:23:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
I went and put toasters in their kitchens.  Because some toasters broke and needed to be replaced.  So naturally they assume someone a) broke in and b) left a fully functional toaster there for no good reason.

People only do that with accordions. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 02:13:33 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 13, 2017, 10:23:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
I went and put toasters in their kitchens.  Because some toasters broke and needed to be replaced.  So naturally they assume someone a) broke in and b) left a fully functional toaster there for no good reason.

People only do that with accordions.

Yeah, not sleeping tonight.  :shudder:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 03:01:01 AM
Goddamnit what the hell is in this eggroll that spiked my blood sugar.  Can't eat fucking eggrolls. Fuck.  :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 03:06:42 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 03:01:01 AM
Goddamnit what the hell is in this eggroll that spiked my blood sugar.  Can't eat fucking eggrolls. Fuck.  :argh!:

Eggrolls are one of the things I really miss.   :cry:

Even if, when looked at critically, they are disgusting and awful.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 04:02:17 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 03:06:42 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 03:01:01 AM
Goddamnit what the hell is in this eggroll that spiked my blood sugar.  Can't eat fucking eggrolls. Fuck.  :argh!:

Eggrolls are one of the things I really miss.   :cry:

Even if, when looked at critically, they are disgusting and awful.

Sausage is like that, but it's in my unlimited category.  Woo.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 04:18:57 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 04:02:17 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 03:06:42 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 03:01:01 AM
Goddamnit what the hell is in this eggroll that spiked my blood sugar.  Can't eat fucking eggrolls. Fuck.  :argh!:

Eggrolls are one of the things I really miss.   :cry:

Even if, when looked at critically, they are disgusting and awful.

Sausage is like that, but it's in my unlimited category.  Woo.

Same!  :banana:

But NO alcohol or anything made with potatoes.  :sadbanana:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 04:20:23 AM
Season 2 of Preacher comes out on the 25th of this month!

HUZZAH!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 05:24:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 04:18:57 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 04:02:17 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 03:06:42 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 03:01:01 AM
Goddamnit what the hell is in this eggroll that spiked my blood sugar.  Can't eat fucking eggrolls. Fuck.  :argh!:

Eggrolls are one of the things I really miss.   :cry:

Even if, when looked at critically, they are disgusting and awful.

Sausage is like that, but it's in my unlimited category.  Woo.

Same!  :banana:

But NO alcohol or anything made with potatoes.  :sadbanana:

I have to have some carbs, it's just figuring out the magical amounts of things which is a bit annoying.  Even ties to time of day.  Activity level doesn't seem to be affecting much which is odd because I thought it should.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 05:24:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 04:18:57 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 04:02:17 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 03:06:42 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 14, 2017, 03:01:01 AM
Goddamnit what the hell is in this eggroll that spiked my blood sugar.  Can't eat fucking eggrolls. Fuck.  :argh!:

Eggrolls are one of the things I really miss.   :cry:

Even if, when looked at critically, they are disgusting and awful.

Sausage is like that, but it's in my unlimited category.  Woo.

Same!  :banana:

But NO alcohol or anything made with potatoes.  :sadbanana:

I have to have some carbs, it's just figuring out the magical amounts of things which is a bit annoying.  Even ties to time of day.  Activity level doesn't seem to be affecting much which is odd because I thought it should.

Oh, I can have bread and some rice.

But any potatoes at all spike the fuck out of my blood sugar.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 14, 2017, 10:09:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 13, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
I went and put toasters in their kitchens.  Because some toasters broke and needed to be replaced.  So naturally they assume someone a) broke in and b) left a fully functional toaster there for no good reason.

Your students are part of my inspiration for researching whether being raised with a surplus of resources has detrimental effects on brain development.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2017, 01:25:03 AM
It's either that or lead. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on June 15, 2017, 03:14:44 AM
God, I'd forgotten how great this place is for absolute fucking madness. I missed this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 03:28:28 AM
Today I learned the first disco in Seattle was opened in 1973 and was a gay bar called "Shelly's leg" and it was named after a dancer named Shelly who lost her leg in a confetti cannon accident and used the insurance/lawsuit settlement money to open a gay disco.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelly%27s_Leg
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 15, 2017, 03:35:59 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 03:28:28 AMlost her leg in a confetti cannon accident

This is one of those things where I never want to learn the details. They could never live up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 05:08:22 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 15, 2017, 03:35:59 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 03:28:28 AMlost her leg in a confetti cannon accident

This is one of those things where I never want to learn the details. They could never live up.

It's actually rather gruesome.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 15, 2017, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 05:08:22 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 15, 2017, 03:35:59 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 03:28:28 AMlost her leg in a confetti cannon accident

This is one of those things where I never want to learn the details. They could never live up.

It's actually rather gruesome.

Losing a limb tends to be. Arteries and so on. Part of the reason I didn't want to learn anymore details... such as how gruesome it presumably was.

But still... a confetti cannon accident.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 15, 2017, 03:25:45 PM
This is hanging in my mother-in-law's bathroom.

But it's okay, it's "cute" and "vintage-style". And if there's a problem, you should just grow up, according to a reliable source.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2017, 03:28:52 PM
Holy shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 15, 2017, 03:41:34 PM
Great googly moogly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2017, 04:06:29 PM
It'd be a shame if it were somehow blown out the house by a freak gust of wind, then caught on fire, stamped on (to put the fire out) and then had its ashes poured down a drain.

So terrible.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 15, 2017, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2017, 04:06:29 PM
It'd be a shame if it were somehow blown out the house by a freak gust of wind, then caught on fire, stamped on (to put the fire out) and then had its ashes poured down a drain.

So terrible.

Tragic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 15, 2017, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 03:28:28 AM
Today I learned the first disco in Seattle was opened in 1973 and was a gay bar called "Shelly's leg" and it was named after a dancer named Shelly who lost her leg in a confetti cannon accident and used the insurance/lawsuit settlement money to open a gay disco.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelly%27s_Leg

This is very amazing and I can't believe I've never heard of it before!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 15, 2017, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 15, 2017, 03:25:45 PM
This is hanging in my mother-in-law's bathroom.

But it's okay, it's "cute" and "vintage-style". And if there's a problem, you should just grow up, according to a reliable source.

Holy shit.

WTF, white people?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 15, 2017, 05:05:26 PM
Living in the south, I'm surprised I don't see more of this kind of stuff. I remember years ago, I had an aunt and uncle that had those black "lawn jockeys" in their front yard. Even when I was a kid, i thought they were a bit odd.

I do see plenty of "rebel" flags, though. Lately I've noticed more trucks with large "rebel" flags, (and U.S. flags) in the bed.

It's disturbing some of the things people have nostalgia for.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 15, 2017, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 15, 2017, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 15, 2017, 03:25:45 PM
This is hanging in my mother-in-law's bathroom.

But it's okay, it's "cute" and "vintage-style". And if there's a problem, you should just grow up, according to a reliable source.

Holy shit.

WTF, white people?

I'm at a loss. I'm also something like 900 miles away. My wife is visiting there and sent me the photo. I am unimpressed, even for this woman.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 15, 2017, 10:17:20 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 15, 2017, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 15, 2017, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 15, 2017, 03:25:45 PM
This is hanging in my mother-in-law's bathroom.

But it's okay, it's "cute" and "vintage-style". And if there's a problem, you should just grow up, according to a reliable source.

Holy shit.

WTF, white people?

I'm at a loss. I'm also something like 900 miles away. My wife is visiting there and sent me the photo. I am unimpressed, even for this woman.

I want to call this "the racist-est towel" but I'm worried that doing so will invite the Universe to demonstrate that no, there is somehow an even more racist towel out there, and I don't think I could handle that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2017, 10:19:13 PM
That was probably a good idea.  For those who want to see (http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/Golliwog-678443.jpg).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 15, 2017, 10:33:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2017, 10:19:13 PM
That was probably a good idea.  For those who want to see (http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/Golliwog-678443.jpg).

I like how she slipped "slavery" in there in a light font, so it wasn't as noticeable.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2017, 10:52:18 PM
I think the things in black font are meant to be bad, because it also has "wants sharia law" and "safe spaces" in the same colour.  However, she probably means slavery to the pro-EU liberal agenda. 

Now you might say "plausible, but that's a bit of an assumption".  However, I didn't live too far from Corfe Castle and I know what people there are like.  I may not know her, but I almost certainly know people in her customer base.

Nice part of the country to go camping, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:16:15 AM
My sister's husband thinks people are "planting bunnies" in the yard to mess with their dog.   :?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 16, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:16:15 AM
My sister's husband thinks people are "planting bunnies" in the yard to mess with their dog.   :?

Thinks?

Convince him.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:49:41 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:16:15 AM
My sister's husband thinks people are "planting bunnies" in the yard to mess with their dog.   :?

Thinks?

Convince him.

Their dachshund caught one and that's the conclusion that he came to.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:53:18 AM
Chain to float in toilet also slipped out, he thinks someone broke into the house to mess with the toilet.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 16, 2017, 04:54:21 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:49:41 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:16:15 AM
My sister's husband thinks people are "planting bunnies" in the yard to mess with their dog.   :?

Thinks?

Convince him.

Their dachshund caught one and that's the conclusion that he came to.

If it were me, I would start planting evidence that people indeed planting bunnies.

Mind you, I'm a horrible bastard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 16, 2017, 04:55:07 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:53:18 AM
Chain to float in toilet also slipped out, he thinks someone broke into the house to mess with the toilet.

Oh good lord, this guy would have me exhausted within hours.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:57:14 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:55:07 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:53:18 AM
Chain to float in toilet also slipped out, he thinks someone broke into the house to mess with the toilet.

Oh good lord, this guy would have me exhausted within hours.

Yeah, not sure how my sister keeps her sanity.  Then again this is the one that managed to escape Tucson. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 16, 2017, 05:12:56 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:57:14 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:55:07 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:53:18 AM
Chain to float in toilet also slipped out, he thinks someone broke into the house to mess with the toilet.

Oh good lord, this guy would have me exhausted within hours.

Yeah, not sure how my sister keeps her sanity.  Then again this is the one that managed to escape Tucson.

:lol:

That's what they want him to think.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 16, 2017, 07:45:45 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:57:14 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:55:07 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:53:18 AM
Chain to float in toilet also slipped out, he thinks someone broke into the house to mess with the toilet.

Oh good lord, this guy would have me exhausted within hours.

Yeah, not sure how my sister keeps her sanity.  Then again this is the one that managed to escape Tucson.

I have explained how Hooke's Law applies to escapees, right?

My boss, who is an even better boss than Jim, stayed a week too late, was lured into staying by the appeal of a Messerschmidt jet cycle.

She now knows she can't leave, but she doesn't care.  Your sister will eventually find some absolutely sensible and vital reason to return.  Right now, that's not a bad thing.  We're becoming a research capital, and our economy is booming.  By our standards, anyway. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on June 16, 2017, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:54:21 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:49:41 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:16:15 AM
My sister's husband thinks people are "planting bunnies" in the yard to mess with their dog.   :?

Thinks?

Convince him.

Their dachshund caught one and that's the conclusion that he came to.

If it were me, I would start planting evidence that people indeed planting bunnies.

Mind you, I'm a horrible bastard.

:lulz:

It would only make you a horrible bastard if he was actually showing early signs of Schizophrenia.

But if he's not, a letter in the mail created out of magazine clippings of letters that reads:

"LiTtlE BUnny FoO Foo
wenT HOPpINg thROugH the fOResT
scoOpINg uP The HOuNdS
aND bOPPing them ON ThE hEAd"

Will surely increase the lulz factor. A week later, send the next section of the nursery rhyme in the same format, but include a paw-print the same size as the dog in question.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: PoFP on June 16, 2017, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:54:21 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:49:41 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:16:15 AM
My sister's husband thinks people are "planting bunnies" in the yard to mess with their dog.   :?

Thinks?

Convince him.

Their dachshund caught one and that's the conclusion that he came to.

If it were me, I would start planting evidence that people indeed planting bunnies.

Mind you, I'm a horrible bastard.

:lulz:

It would only make you a horrible bastard if he was actually showing early signs of Schizophrenia.


At this point I'm not sure.  I think it's the only reason my sister stays, he may be ill and she'd feel guilt in leaving.

Told her to document this stuff.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on June 16, 2017, 06:54:55 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: PoFP on June 16, 2017, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:54:21 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:49:41 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:16:15 AM
My sister's husband thinks people are "planting bunnies" in the yard to mess with their dog.   :?

Thinks?

Convince him.

Their dachshund caught one and that's the conclusion that he came to.

If it were me, I would start planting evidence that people indeed planting bunnies.

Mind you, I'm a horrible bastard.

:lulz:

It would only make you a horrible bastard if he was actually showing early signs of Schizophrenia.


At this point I'm not sure.  I think it's the only reason my sister stays, he may be ill and she'd feel guilt in leaving.

Told her to document this stuff.

In that case, that's very unfortunate. I've read plenty of stories of developing symptoms of Schizophrenia, and that's the type of stuff that they do. I'd tell her to look out for Catatonia and slow decline of hygiene as well. The earlier they catch that stuff, the better the outlook on life.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 16, 2017, 07:11:24 PM
That is unfortunate. I take back what I said.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on June 16, 2017, 07:57:07 PM
Some incompetent admin at the company I support accused me of resetting someone's password to something non-compliant to our security standards on a linux server.

I sent them and their/my supervisor back a wall of an email outlining:

1.) The Company's Security Compliance Standards
2.) The password I actually set for the account on the server
3.) The fact that the tool they gave us to generate passwords doesn't fit their own Security Compliance Standards for passwords. (A tool that I actually didn't use, because of this fact)
4.) A detailed how-to document with step-by-step instructions on how to find the date/time/source of account logins and password changes on the linux server via command line.
5.) The exact date/time that I was on the call with the user, as well as a screenshot of the date/time I signed into the server and reset their password.
6.) The fact that the password they claim I set it to is literally considered an invalid password on the server because it doesn't fit the bare minimum requirements to allow the reset to go through, meaning by definition of the server's capabilities, their claim is impossible.


Their (Various admins and employees of this company) weekly attempts at accusing me of impossible or unusually retarded shit always ends in me telling them and their superiors how their job is done. Maybe I should apply to be a consultant so I can get paid more.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 07:43:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2017, 10:19:13 PM
That was probably a good idea.  For those who want to see (http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/Golliwog-678443.jpg).

This is just confusing as fuck. What on earth is going on with that towel?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: PoFP on June 16, 2017, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:54:21 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:49:41 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 16, 2017, 04:16:15 AM
My sister's husband thinks people are "planting bunnies" in the yard to mess with their dog.   :?

Thinks?

Convince him.

Their dachshund caught one and that's the conclusion that he came to.

If it were me, I would start planting evidence that people indeed planting bunnies.

Mind you, I'm a horrible bastard.

:lulz:

It would only make you a horrible bastard if he was actually showing early signs of Schizophrenia.


At this point I'm not sure.  I think it's the only reason my sister stays, he may be ill and she'd feel guilt in leaving.

Told her to document this stuff.

She should probably try to get him into a psych for assessment, if possible.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 17, 2017, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 07:44:52 PM

She should probably try to get him into a psych for assessment, if possible.

Yeah, this is looking less funny/less of him just being an asshole after thinking about it. This is the same guy who suddenly stopped having a sense of humor.  He's so damn stubborn, not so sure of how she can get him there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 18, 2017, 04:45:54 AM
Too hot to sleep in this godforsaken building.  Which given it is nearly 5am is saying something.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 20, 2017, 03:33:45 AM
National Weather Service decided to create a new storm category and meteorologists are crapping themselves to report stroms in those categories.

Like nothing changed at all, they just decided to track storms the might become tropical depressions.  Before that they were still bad storms. 

So anyway I have to deal with the fact the software doesn't have that category yet and all the people complaining about that fact and the fact programming takes time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 20, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
Come to donate plasma, wearing the most comfortab le, light clothing possible, because it's Tucson, it's summer, and there's been no rain. I get up to check in, they're like, "Those are pajama pants, you can't donate." FFS they're just pants I'm so fucking pissed right now. This is some bullshit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 20, 2017, 11:38:39 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 20, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
Come to donate plasma, wearing the most comfortab le, light clothing possible, because it's Tucson, it's summer, and there's been no rain. I get up to check in, they're like, "Those are pajama pants, you can't donate." FFS they're just pants I'm so fucking pissed right now. This is some bullshit.

??? What do pajama pants have to do with donating???
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 20, 2017, 11:40:39 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 20, 2017, 11:38:39 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 20, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
Come to donate plasma, wearing the most comfortab le, light clothing possible, because it's Tucson, it's summer, and there's been no rain. I get up to check in, they're like, "Those are pajama pants, you can't donate." FFS they're just pants I'm so fucking pissed right now. This is some bullshit.

??? What do pajama pants have to do with donating???

I don't know, the only reason they sent me home was "We have a dress code, and pajamas are not allowed."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 21, 2017, 12:34:52 AM
117F for the second day in a row.

:zombie:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 12:51:39 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 20, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
Come to donate plasma, wearing the most comfortab le, light clothing possible, because it's Tucson, it's summer, and there's been no rain. I get up to check in, they're like, "Those are pajama pants, you can't donate." FFS they're just pants I'm so fucking pissed right now. This is some bullshit.

It probably sounds ridiculous, but there are people who donate plasma who make a dress code deeply, deeply necessary partly so  that nice people like you also feel safe and comfortable donating plasma.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 12:59:32 AM
So I kinda feel like my advisor is off the deep end.

She wants preliminary results for a project she's been sitting on for three years but we just started this Fall. She wants these results in a month. She wants me to figure out from scratch with no guidance how to use imaging software no one else in the lab knows how to use, that was designed for immunofluorescence, to quantify IHC-DAB. She gave me about four days to figure this out, and to perform a validation experiment using tissue from a previous grad student who is gone. Going through that student's data, I already can see and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the previous data, which has been accepted for publication, is bad. At least the cell counts for the supraoptic nucleus are bad. I don't have time to deal with this and it's also not my problem, but I have a feeling it is about to become my problem on top of having three weeks to process and assay 124 brains.

The reason she has a problem with bad data is because her approach to training is to throw a project at a student and tell them to figure it out, just as she is doing with me right now. If she had taken 20 minutes to train the last student, they would have known that they were counting cells in a region caudal to the supraoptic nucleus, and this data would not be bad. I can correctly quantify staining in these tissues, but I can't use these tissues to validate my method because the existing data is bad... this is a waste of my time. And everyone else's time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 21, 2017, 01:50:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 12:51:39 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 20, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
Come to donate plasma, wearing the most comfortab le, light clothing possible, because it's Tucson, it's summer, and there's been no rain. I get up to check in, they're like, "Those are pajama pants, you can't donate." FFS they're just pants I'm so fucking pissed right now. This is some bullshit.

It probably sounds ridiculous, but there are people who donate plasma who make a dress code deeply, deeply necessary partly so  that nice people like you also feel safe and comfortable donating plasma.

I suppose that sounds logical. It's just hard when I don't have money to buy pants and it's hot and everything.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 21, 2017, 02:18:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 12:59:32 AM
So I kinda feel like my advisor is off the deep end.

She wants preliminary results for a project she's been sitting on for three years but we just started this Fall. She wants these results in a month. She wants me to figure out from scratch with no guidance how to use imaging software no one else in the lab knows how to use, that was designed for immunofluorescence, to quantify IHC-DAB. She gave me about four days to figure this out, and to perform a validation experiment using tissue from a previous grad student who is gone. Going through that student's data, I already can see and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the previous data, which has been accepted for publication, is bad. At least the cell counts for the supraoptic nucleus are bad. I don't have time to deal with this and it's also not my problem, but I have a feeling it is about to become my problem on top of having three weeks to process and assay 124 brains.

The reason she has a problem with bad data is because her approach to training is to throw a project at a student and tell them to figure it out, just as she is doing with me right now. If she had taken 20 minutes to train the last student, they would have known that they were counting cells in a region caudal to the supraoptic nucleus, and this data would not be bad. I can correctly quantify staining in these tissues, but I can't use these tissues to validate my method because the existing data is bad... this is a waste of my time. And everyone else's time.

Oh fuck.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 21, 2017, 02:19:57 AM
Guy in a thread about automation:  "I'm safe for a long time, no robot can be a carpenter."

Husband, who had been in the furniture industry for quite a while, goes "Should I tell him?"

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 21, 2017, 02:37:00 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 21, 2017, 02:19:57 AM
Guy in a thread about automation:  "I'm safe for a long time, no robot can be a carpenter."

Husband, who had been in the furniture industry for quite a while, goes "Should I tell him?"

I've heard that one before. Usually, they say it's because of having to adapt to unforeseen problems...

Unforeseen problems caused by humans adapting to unforeseen problems caused in a previous step in the process...

I think you see where this is going.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 04:02:53 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 21, 2017, 02:19:57 AM
Guy in a thread about automation:  "I'm safe for a long time, no robot can be a carpenter."

Husband, who had been in the furniture industry for quite a while, goes "Should I tell him?"

Oh man. That is an "Oh, honey..." moment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2017, 01:39:47 PM
After being on for a solid week, day and night, my fan died.

I have no other fans  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 21, 2017, 02:05:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2017, 01:39:47 PM
After being on for a solid week, day and night, my fan died.

I have no other fans  :sad:

Now that's just nonsense. Everyone knows we're your biggest fans!  :cainftw:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
Flap harder then.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 21, 2017, 02:07:16 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/euuaA2cwLEUuI/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on June 21, 2017, 02:08:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 12:59:32 AM
So I kinda feel like my advisor is off the deep end.

She wants preliminary results for a project she's been sitting on for three years but we just started this Fall. She wants these results in a month. She wants me to figure out from scratch with no guidance how to use imaging software no one else in the lab knows how to use, that was designed for immunofluorescence, to quantify IHC-DAB. She gave me about four days to figure this out, and to perform a validation experiment using tissue from a previous grad student who is gone. Going through that student's data, I already can see and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the previous data, which has been accepted for publication, is bad. At least the cell counts for the supraoptic nucleus are bad. I don't have time to deal with this and it's also not my problem, but I have a feeling it is about to become my problem on top of having three weeks to process and assay 124 brains.

The reason she has a problem with bad data is because her approach to training is to throw a project at a student and tell them to figure it out, just as she is doing with me right now. If she had taken 20 minutes to train the last student, they would have known that they were counting cells in a region caudal to the supraoptic nucleus, and this data would not be bad. I can correctly quantify staining in these tissues, but I can't use these tissues to validate my method because the existing data is bad... this is a waste of my time. And everyone else's time.

I always wonder if people do that because they think the student will understand the material better through "independent discovery," or if they get some sick satisfaction from the thought of someone else not being able to do stuff that they themselves know how to do (Or maybe don't know how to do, for that matter). Based on the fact that she's been sitting on the project 3 years, I'm going to assume the latter.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on June 21, 2017, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
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Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2017, 05:57:44 PM
My facebook feed today: but whatabout AMURRICA?!?

I'm talking about the UK, so I don't really give a shit about America.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: PoFP on June 21, 2017, 02:08:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 12:59:32 AM
So I kinda feel like my advisor is off the deep end.

She wants preliminary results for a project she's been sitting on for three years but we just started this Fall. She wants these results in a month. She wants me to figure out from scratch with no guidance how to use imaging software no one else in the lab knows how to use, that was designed for immunofluorescence, to quantify IHC-DAB. She gave me about four days to figure this out, and to perform a validation experiment using tissue from a previous grad student who is gone. Going through that student's data, I already can see and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the previous data, which has been accepted for publication, is bad. At least the cell counts for the supraoptic nucleus are bad. I don't have time to deal with this and it's also not my problem, but I have a feeling it is about to become my problem on top of having three weeks to process and assay 124 brains.

The reason she has a problem with bad data is because her approach to training is to throw a project at a student and tell them to figure it out, just as she is doing with me right now. If she had taken 20 minutes to train the last student, they would have known that they were counting cells in a region caudal to the supraoptic nucleus, and this data would not be bad. I can correctly quantify staining in these tissues, but I can't use these tissues to validate my method because the existing data is bad... this is a waste of my time. And everyone else's time.

I always wonder if people do that because they think the student will understand the material better through "independent discovery," or if they get some sick satisfaction from the thought of someone else not being able to do stuff that they themselves know how to do (Or maybe don't know how to do, for that matter). Based on the fact that she's been sitting on the project 3 years, I'm going to assume the latter.

The great thing here is that she has no idea how to use this software. She's never tried. She can't even critique my progress because, as became clear to me when she asked me if I was taking pictures of every tissue section, she has zero idea how to use it. You have to take pictures of all the tissue to be analyzed, that's how the software works. I suspect she has used this approach with other students in the past, and that's exactly why the data I'm trying to use as validation for my method is bad; she herself didn't know how to do what she asked the grad student to do, so she couldn't check the data to make sure it was collected correctly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 06:03:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2017, 05:57:44 PM
My facebook feed today: but whatabout AMURRICA?!?

I'm talking about the UK, so I don't really give a shit about America.  Sorry.

That's a great time to use the "For my next trick, I will turn this conversation into a conversation about ME!" meme.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on June 21, 2017, 06:46:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: PoFP on June 21, 2017, 02:08:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 12:59:32 AM
So I kinda feel like my advisor is off the deep end.

She wants preliminary results for a project she's been sitting on for three years but we just started this Fall. She wants these results in a month. She wants me to figure out from scratch with no guidance how to use imaging software no one else in the lab knows how to use, that was designed for immunofluorescence, to quantify IHC-DAB. She gave me about four days to figure this out, and to perform a validation experiment using tissue from a previous grad student who is gone. Going through that student's data, I already can see and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the previous data, which has been accepted for publication, is bad. At least the cell counts for the supraoptic nucleus are bad. I don't have time to deal with this and it's also not my problem, but I have a feeling it is about to become my problem on top of having three weeks to process and assay 124 brains.

The reason she has a problem with bad data is because her approach to training is to throw a project at a student and tell them to figure it out, just as she is doing with me right now. If she had taken 20 minutes to train the last student, they would have known that they were counting cells in a region caudal to the supraoptic nucleus, and this data would not be bad. I can correctly quantify staining in these tissues, but I can't use these tissues to validate my method because the existing data is bad... this is a waste of my time. And everyone else's time.

I always wonder if people do that because they think the student will understand the material better through "independent discovery," or if they get some sick satisfaction from the thought of someone else not being able to do stuff that they themselves know how to do (Or maybe don't know how to do, for that matter). Based on the fact that she's been sitting on the project 3 years, I'm going to assume the latter.

The great thing here is that she has no idea how to use this software. She's never tried. She can't even critique my progress because, as became clear to me when she asked me if I was taking pictures of every tissue section, she has zero idea how to use it. You have to take pictures of all the tissue to be analyzed, that's how the software works. I suspect she has used this approach with other students in the past, and that's exactly why the data I'm trying to use as validation for my method is bad; she herself didn't know how to do what she asked the grad student to do, so she couldn't check the data to make sure it was collected correctly.

Ah, so it sounds like she's refusing to admit ignorance out of embarrassment, and/or so she can pass off the responsibility if push comes to shove. Sounds like a true contributor to the scientific community.

It always amazes me when people in the scientific community have a hard time admitting when they don't know something or are unwilling to learn. Both of those things are like the greatest parts about science. You can go

"Why? Well, I have no clue why. But I should have the answer after I learn how to BLOW IT UP WITH LAZURZ AND SMASH IT INTO OTHER THINGS AT HIGH SPEEDS AND MAKE IT LIGHT UP WITH VARIOUS CHEMICALS AWWWWW YEAHHHHHHH."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 10:00:48 PM
The thing that's driving me crazy is that she's an excellent teacher, as well as a very very intelligent researcher with a proven track record. I think she just really can't or doesn't want to put in the time to train her graduate students. She has an R1 grant FFS, she has to step up. I don't think she even read my email explaining the problem.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2017, 03:14:33 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2017, 06:03:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2017, 05:57:44 PM
My facebook feed today: but whatabout AMURRICA?!?

I'm talking about the UK, so I don't really give a shit about America.  Sorry.

That's a great time to use the "For my next trick, I will turn this conversation into a conversation about ME!" meme.

I noticed someone beat me to that  :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on June 22, 2017, 05:11:25 PM
Someone unfriended me on FB because I told him his method of evaluating a fucking card in Magic was wrong.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 22, 2017, 08:21:13 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on June 22, 2017, 05:11:25 PM
Someone unfriended me on FB because I told him his method of evaluating a fucking card in Magic was wrong.

Sounds like he did you a favor.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 22, 2017, 11:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 22, 2017, 08:21:13 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on June 22, 2017, 05:11:25 PM
Someone unfriended me on FB because I told him his method of evaluating a fucking card in Magic was wrong.

Sounds like he did you a favor.

Yeah that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 01:17:42 AM
So, new guy (he's been there 2 days longer than me) has a sick wife.  Like in the ICU getting organs removed kinda sick.  Her recovery is not assured.

And he's terrified that I'm going to let him go because he hasn't been to work this week, and he's still a "contingent employee" (also means "no paid time off of any kind").  Instead, I send him database work to do so he can bill hours while he sits next to his unconscious wife, both taking his mind off of a situation he can't control AND letting him make rent.  My boss thinks that makes me a saint.

It doesn't.  It's just good management, for 3 reasons:

1.  That database work needs to be done.
2.  He's not at work in an industrial environment with his head not in the game, so we don't wind up hosing him out of the gears.
3.  Anything I do at this point sends a message, both to him and the rest of the crew.  One message is "if you fall down, go fuck yourself."  this makes a crew go bad.  Another message is "your job is safe, too bad you can't make the rent".  This doesn't inspire hatred, but neither does it inspire loyalty.  The last potential message is "we have your back", and this makes employees feel secure.  And employees that feel secure will make work part of their life, and THAT means better production, better thinking, and all around better lives for everyone.

So what do you know?  They were right about altruism being a survival mechanism.  This isn't goodness, it's just plain pragmatism.

How is this not obvious to everyone?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2017, 02:35:17 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on June 22, 2017, 05:11:25 PM
Someone unfriended me on FB because I told him his method of evaluating a fucking card in Magic was wrong.

That's just sad. Not for you, for him.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2017, 02:39:52 AM
I shadowed an MD today! It was super super super fun, like basically being a doctor is the customer service end of science. So fascinating, and so many different things going on! Doctoring might be the perfect profession for people who have ADHD but also really like science. And yesterday I actually got my advisor into the lab to show her the issues with the tissue I was supposed to be using for validation, and when I walked her through the process and showed her the tissue she agreed with me, which is GREAT because now I can put my time and energy into something that will actually move the project forward.

Good times, good times.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on June 23, 2017, 02:45:23 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 22, 2017, 11:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 22, 2017, 08:21:13 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on June 22, 2017, 05:11:25 PM
Someone unfriended me on FB because I told him his method of evaluating a fucking card in Magic was wrong.

Sounds like he did you a favor.

Yeah that.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2017, 02:35:17 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on June 22, 2017, 05:11:25 PM
Someone unfriended me on FB because I told him his method of evaluating a fucking card in Magic was wrong.

That's just sad. Not for you, for him.

Yeah.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on June 23, 2017, 02:46:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 01:17:42 AM
So, new guy (he's been there 2 days longer than me) has a sick wife.  Like in the ICU getting organs removed kinda sick.  Her recovery is not assured.

And he's terrified that I'm going to let him go because he hasn't been to work this week, and he's still a "contingent employee" (also means "no paid time off of any kind").  Instead, I send him database work to do so he can bill hours while he sits next to his unconscious wife, both taking his mind off of a situation he can't control AND letting him make rent.  My boss thinks that makes me a saint.

It doesn't.  It's just good management, for 3 reasons:

1.  That database work needs to be done.
2.  He's not at work in an industrial environment with his head not in the game, so we don't wind up hosing him out of the gears.
3.  Anything I do at this point sends a message, both to him and the rest of the crew.  One message is "if you fall down, go fuck yourself."  this makes a crew go bad.  Another message is "your job is safe, too bad you can't make the rent".  This doesn't inspire hatred, but neither does it inspire loyalty.  The last potential message is "we have your back", and this makes employees feel secure.  And employees that feel secure will make work part of their life, and THAT means better production, better thinking, and all around better lives for everyone.

So what do you know?  They were right about altruism being a survival mechanism.  This isn't goodness, it's just plain pragmatism.

How is this not obvious to everyone?

Stories like this make me wish I worked for you, but then I remember that I don't want to get eaten by the Tuscon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 04:56:53 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on June 23, 2017, 02:46:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 01:17:42 AM
So, new guy (he's been there 2 days longer than me) has a sick wife.  Like in the ICU getting organs removed kinda sick.  Her recovery is not assured.

And he's terrified that I'm going to let him go because he hasn't been to work this week, and he's still a "contingent employee" (also means "no paid time off of any kind").  Instead, I send him database work to do so he can bill hours while he sits next to his unconscious wife, both taking his mind off of a situation he can't control AND letting him make rent.  My boss thinks that makes me a saint.

It doesn't.  It's just good management, for 3 reasons:

1.  That database work needs to be done.
2.  He's not at work in an industrial environment with his head not in the game, so we don't wind up hosing him out of the gears.
3.  Anything I do at this point sends a message, both to him and the rest of the crew.  One message is "if you fall down, go fuck yourself."  this makes a crew go bad.  Another message is "your job is safe, too bad you can't make the rent".  This doesn't inspire hatred, but neither does it inspire loyalty.  The last potential message is "we have your back", and this makes employees feel secure.  And employees that feel secure will make work part of their life, and THAT means better production, better thinking, and all around better lives for everyone.

So what do you know?  They were right about altruism being a survival mechanism.  This isn't goodness, it's just plain pragmatism.

How is this not obvious to everyone?

Stories like this make me wish I worked for you, but then I remember that I don't want to get eaten by the Tuscon.

Tucson is as horrible as ever, but tech jobs - medical and industrial, as well as IT - are kind of exploding.  We raised our minimum wage and suddenly the economic engine is howling like a banshee.  It's both awesome and a vindication of my antiquated labor-liberal beliefs.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 23, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 01:17:42 AM
So, new guy (he's been there 2 days longer than me) has a sick wife.  Like in the ICU getting organs removed kinda sick.  Her recovery is not assured.

And he's terrified that I'm going to let him go because he hasn't been to work this week, and he's still a "contingent employee" (also means "no paid time off of any kind").  Instead, I send him database work to do so he can bill hours while he sits next to his unconscious wife, both taking his mind off of a situation he can't control AND letting him make rent.  My boss thinks that makes me a saint.

It doesn't.  It's just good management, for 3 reasons:

1.  That database work needs to be done.
2.  He's not at work in an industrial environment with his head not in the game, so we don't wind up hosing him out of the gears.
3.  Anything I do at this point sends a message, both to him and the rest of the crew.  One message is "if you fall down, go fuck yourself."  this makes a crew go bad.  Another message is "your job is safe, too bad you can't make the rent".  This doesn't inspire hatred, but neither does it inspire loyalty.  The last potential message is "we have your back", and this makes employees feel secure.  And employees that feel secure will make work part of their life, and THAT means better production, better thinking, and all around better lives for everyone.

So what do you know?  They were right about altruism being a survival mechanism.  This isn't goodness, it's just plain pragmatism.

How is this not obvious to everyone?

This needs to be stitched onto a million throwpillows.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 23, 2017, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 01:17:42 AM
So, new guy (he's been there 2 days longer than me) has a sick wife.  Like in the ICU getting organs removed kinda sick.  Her recovery is not assured.

And he's terrified that I'm going to let him go because he hasn't been to work this week, and he's still a "contingent employee" (also means "no paid time off of any kind").  Instead, I send him database work to do so he can bill hours while he sits next to his unconscious wife, both taking his mind off of a situation he can't control AND letting him make rent.  My boss thinks that makes me a saint.

It doesn't.  It's just good management, for 3 reasons:

1.  That database work needs to be done.
2.  He's not at work in an industrial environment with his head not in the game, so we don't wind up hosing him out of the gears.
3.  Anything I do at this point sends a message, both to him and the rest of the crew.  One message is "if you fall down, go fuck yourself."  this makes a crew go bad.  Another message is "your job is safe, too bad you can't make the rent".  This doesn't inspire hatred, but neither does it inspire loyalty.  The last potential message is "we have your back", and this makes employees feel secure.  And employees that feel secure will make work part of their life, and THAT means better production, better thinking, and all around better lives for everyone.

So what do you know?  They were right about altruism being a survival mechanism.  This isn't goodness, it's just plain pragmatism.

How is this not obvious to everyone?

This needs to be stitched onto a million throwpillows.

Agreed. May I post on FB?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2017, 03:44:44 PM
My company has essentially exactly the oppposite policy.  You can see how this works out with regards to my co-worker.

My co-worker has done insane amounts of overtime.  In April, she took maybe 3 days off in total.  She's done 24 hour shifts, 12 nights of shifts without a break.  All voluntarily, but she's done a lot for the company.  Last year, she was practically running the building throughout the summer, on her own.

In return, she asked for two things.  1, to move on site, as the option is available to nightworkers.  2, she went for a job opening which would see her promoted to senior (my staff level).

She was told "hahaha, no.  Maybe next year" and she was passed over for the senior position by someone who is an old friend of the head of department.  So you know what she does now?  Exactly what is required by her job, and nothing more.  She has, like me, learned that there is no benefit to sticking your neck out for this company.  The overtime pay isn't even really that great, and accounting often mess it up, requiring more work to resolve it.  In return, you're taken for granted.  She's not motivated to try any harder than she needs to here any more, and if she needs money she'd rather pick up part-time work elsewhere than cover shifts here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 23, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 23, 2017, 03:44:44 PM
My company has essentially exactly the oppposite policy.  You can see how this works out with regards to my co-worker.

My co-worker has done insane amounts of overtime.  In April, she took maybe 3 days off in total.  She's done 24 hour shifts, 12 nights of shifts without a break.  All voluntarily, but she's done a lot for the company.  Last year, she was practically running the building throughout the summer, on her own.

In return, she asked for two things.  1, to move on site, as the option is available to nightworkers.  2, she went for a job opening which would see her promoted to senior (my staff level).

She was told "hahaha, no.  Maybe next year" and she was passed over for the senior position by someone who is an old friend of the head of department.  So you know what she does now?  Exactly what is required by her job, and nothing more.  She has, like me, learned that there is no benefit to sticking your neck out for this company.  The overtime pay isn't even really that great, and accounting often mess it up, requiring more work to resolve it.  In return, you're taken for granted.  She's not motivated to try any harder than she needs to here any more, and if she needs money she'd rather pick up part-time work elsewhere than cover shifts here.

Work to rule. Some companies basically force you to do that, such as yours.

At least neither of you are at the point where you are actively sabotaging... *cough*
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 23, 2017, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 01:17:42 AM
So, new guy (he's been there 2 days longer than me) has a sick wife.  Like in the ICU getting organs removed kinda sick.  Her recovery is not assured.

And he's terrified that I'm going to let him go because he hasn't been to work this week, and he's still a "contingent employee" (also means "no paid time off of any kind").  Instead, I send him database work to do so he can bill hours while he sits next to his unconscious wife, both taking his mind off of a situation he can't control AND letting him make rent.  My boss thinks that makes me a saint.

It doesn't.  It's just good management, for 3 reasons:

1.  That database work needs to be done.
2.  He's not at work in an industrial environment with his head not in the game, so we don't wind up hosing him out of the gears.
3.  Anything I do at this point sends a message, both to him and the rest of the crew.  One message is "if you fall down, go fuck yourself."  this makes a crew go bad.  Another message is "your job is safe, too bad you can't make the rent".  This doesn't inspire hatred, but neither does it inspire loyalty.  The last potential message is "we have your back", and this makes employees feel secure.  And employees that feel secure will make work part of their life, and THAT means better production, better thinking, and all around better lives for everyone.

So what do you know?  They were right about altruism being a survival mechanism.  This isn't goodness, it's just plain pragmatism.

How is this not obvious to everyone?

This needs to be stitched onto a million throwpillows.

Agreed. May I post on FB?

Sure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 05:42:32 PM
Credit it to Sam Tarwell, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on June 23, 2017, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 05:42:32 PM
Credit it to Sam Tarwell, though.

Yeah, the notecard feature in FB is not as user friendly as it used to be, I will have to tackle it again when I have more time.

I don't want it to look like I wrote it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on June 23, 2017, 06:24:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2017, 02:39:52 AM
I shadowed an MD today! It was super super super fun, like basically being a doctor is the customer service end of science. So fascinating, and so many different things going on! Doctoring might be the perfect profession for people who have ADHD but also really like science. And yesterday I actually got my advisor into the lab to show her the issues with the tissue I was supposed to be using for validation, and when I walked her through the process and showed her the tissue she agreed with me, which is GREAT because now I can put my time and energy into something that will actually move the project forward.

Good times, good times.

Just as I was getting back into IT security and forensics, I see a good incentive to get back into the medical field.

Also, glad to hear of the confirmation of your prediction!

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2017, 01:17:42 AM
So, new guy (he's been there 2 days longer than me) has a sick wife.  Like in the ICU getting organs removed kinda sick.  Her recovery is not assured.

And he's terrified that I'm going to let him go because he hasn't been to work this week, and he's still a "contingent employee" (also means "no paid time off of any kind").  Instead, I send him database work to do so he can bill hours while he sits next to his unconscious wife, both taking his mind off of a situation he can't control AND letting him make rent.  My boss thinks that makes me a saint.

It doesn't.  It's just good management, for 3 reasons:

1.  That database work needs to be done.
2.  He's not at work in an industrial environment with his head not in the game, so we don't wind up hosing him out of the gears.
3.  Anything I do at this point sends a message, both to him and the rest of the crew.  One message is "if you fall down, go fuck yourself."  this makes a crew go bad.  Another message is "your job is safe, too bad you can't make the rent".  This doesn't inspire hatred, but neither does it inspire loyalty.  The last potential message is "we have your back", and this makes employees feel secure.  And employees that feel secure will make work part of their life, and THAT means better production, better thinking, and all around better lives for everyone.

So what do you know?  They were right about altruism being a survival mechanism.  This isn't goodness, it's just plain pragmatism.

How is this not obvious to everyone?

Yeah, this actually reminds me of a TED talk I saw a little while ago. He went over the fact that there is a strange correlation between how much you give in your work, to your likelihood of success/being at the top. Specifically, they found after several studies that the people who do nothing but take and sabotage for personal gain usually end up in the middle, and often at the bottom. There's a few at the top, but that's pretty much only due to luck/connections. Most of the time, they fuck up and get dropped to the bottom.

If I remember correctly, they also found that the people who give the most are likely to be at the bottom, as well as the top. The givers were by far the highest and lowest achievers. But of course, regardless of your level of achievement, givers were able to contribute more to the company they were involved in, leading to a more successful company over all. So even if you're a sacrificial giver, and end up achieving little, you and others like you end up helping to hold up the success of the company. So it's really bad for any single person, as well as the company to be the "taking" type.

If only government worked this way lol

EDIT: Ah, here it is. (https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_grant_are_you_a_giver_or_a_taker)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2017, 06:32:16 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 23, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 23, 2017, 03:44:44 PM
My company has essentially exactly the oppposite policy.  You can see how this works out with regards to my co-worker.

My co-worker has done insane amounts of overtime.  In April, she took maybe 3 days off in total.  She's done 24 hour shifts, 12 nights of shifts without a break.  All voluntarily, but she's done a lot for the company.  Last year, she was practically running the building throughout the summer, on her own.

In return, she asked for two things.  1, to move on site, as the option is available to nightworkers.  2, she went for a job opening which would see her promoted to senior (my staff level).

She was told "hahaha, no.  Maybe next year" and she was passed over for the senior position by someone who is an old friend of the head of department.  So you know what she does now?  Exactly what is required by her job, and nothing more.  She has, like me, learned that there is no benefit to sticking your neck out for this company.  The overtime pay isn't even really that great, and accounting often mess it up, requiring more work to resolve it.  In return, you're taken for granted.  She's not motivated to try any harder than she needs to here any more, and if she needs money she'd rather pick up part-time work elsewhere than cover shifts here.

Work to rule. Some companies basically force you to do that, such as yours.

At least neither of you are at the point where you are actively sabotaging... *cough*

Only because the company does it to itself well enough to make the effort pointless.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 23, 2017, 07:44:12 PM
I mean, really.  I can totally see any wrenches you throw at this point would only improve the situation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2017, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 23, 2017, 03:44:44 PM
My company has essentially exactly the oppposite policy.  You can see how this works out with regards to my co-worker.

My co-worker has done insane amounts of overtime.  In April, she took maybe 3 days off in total.  She's done 24 hour shifts, 12 nights of shifts without a break.  All voluntarily, but she's done a lot for the company.  Last year, she was practically running the building throughout the summer, on her own.

In return, she asked for two things.  1, to move on site, as the option is available to nightworkers.  2, she went for a job opening which would see her promoted to senior (my staff level).

She was told "hahaha, no.  Maybe next year" and she was passed over for the senior position by someone who is an old friend of the head of department.  So you know what she does now?  Exactly what is required by her job, and nothing more.  She has, like me, learned that there is no benefit to sticking your neck out for this company.  The overtime pay isn't even really that great, and accounting often mess it up, requiring more work to resolve it.  In return, you're taken for granted.  She's not motivated to try any harder than she needs to here any more, and if she needs money she'd rather pick up part-time work elsewhere than cover shifts here.

This sounds like a person who should be getting paid a lot more money somewhere else.

For that matter, so do you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 24, 2017, 06:29:28 PM
Well, I still have my Mystery Meeting with the law firm to attend to (I'm putting the percentages as 50% on a beatdown by MI5 trainees, 25% on a small sum of cash and 25% on introducing me to people who might offer me a job).

And come September, I'm looking into going into the fast-track civil service program.  Obviously the civil service isn't for anyone who wants to get rich, but some of the programs I'm interested in have higher starting pay than my current job, assuming I get in.

My co-worker wants to go into police support.  She used to work at a pretty fancy nightclub, but she got sick of dealing with Albanian gangsters fucking the place up every weekend.  Pay was good, tips were better, but it was a lot of bullshit to handle.   For now though she's doing this because it allows her to pay her Uni tuition fees upfront (which is pretty much the reason I took this job...).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2017, 04:43:34 AM
This is amazing and you need it.  Yes, you.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/elmer-fudd-hunting-batman-through-the-streets-of-gotham-1796371668?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=io9_facebook
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on June 26, 2017, 05:07:00 AM
yeeeeesssssss
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 26, 2017, 11:39:33 PM
 :lulz:  My manager told me if a particular client calls I should tell them to fuck off, and I have permission to use said language.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 26, 2017, 11:48:01 PM
So they managed to get ransomware, wiped their machine, and got the ransomware again either by not fully wiping the machine or by having it sitting on their network and reinfecting the machine.
They are an ISP.

Many other phrases have been approved for use.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2017, 01:54:04 AM
So how hard is to make Beef Wellington?

I might have made a bet while annoyed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on June 27, 2017, 02:21:24 AM
Easy if you buy the pastry.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 27, 2017, 04:13:19 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2017, 01:54:04 AM
So how hard is to make Beef Wellington?

I might have made a bet while annoyed.

Making one in a car?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on June 27, 2017, 07:25:02 PM
Were your company early adopters of this current ransomware batch, or late to the party patching against wannacry?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 27, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 27, 2017, 07:25:02 PM
Were your company early adopters of this current ransomware batch, or late to the party patching against wannacry?

It's not my company that got hit, was a customer, and we don't manage their patching.  There was a rather large cascade of fail that ended with the ransomware.  The fact my boss himself was the one restoring the machine since it's an old-not-supposed-to-be-supported system led to the profanity.  We're supporting an out of support system because sales thinks if we're nice enough they might buy something else.  And sales makes upper management listen.

There is no equivalent to this system, nothing we currently have is anything they'd want at least.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on June 27, 2017, 10:13:40 PM
Nothing like supporting legacy horror shows, I hope the customer at least pays well for you to support it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 27, 2017, 11:40:13 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 27, 2017, 10:13:40 PM
Nothing like supporting legacy horror shows, I hope the customer at least pays well for you to support it.

Hope so too.  I'm actually kinda angry at the company for killing their particular product, there's no real equivalent to it.  Could send replacement discs with a working image on them in that case if they had a contract.  Probably have a data contract.

Though I guess sending discs isn't a solution if they're as stupid as my boss says and get the thing reinfected. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 29, 2017, 02:40:46 AM
5 year old suddenly afraid of thunderstorms :(.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 29, 2017, 03:38:26 AM
clicked it. don't care.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 04:55:54 AM
GODDAMMIT, RICHTER.

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19511386_1852169098438730_1227786779110335190_n.jpg?oh=0df12cae46894d13ae883cc31ab6afa0&oe=59E0E7B9)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 29, 2017, 07:23:35 AM
Why is this thread stickied all of a sudden?

I literally thought it had disappeared for days. :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on June 29, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?
It's used a lot in data analytics and has eaten into matlabs ridiculous grip on universities.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 29, 2017, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 29, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?
It's used a lot in data analytics and has eaten into matlabs ridiculous grip on universities.

Well that's cool.

I know a little Python, probably not enough to get paid for doing it. I kind of wish I had taken Computer Science instead of all that industrial bullshit in college. Every now and then I'll search for jobs looking for Python. Usually one or two will pop up, generally web based stuff. Looked just now, and damn if there isn't an "elecromechanical systems engineer" position in the area looking for Python and C#. I'm totally not qualified for it, but it's interesting to see.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 29, 2017, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 29, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?
It's used a lot in data analytics and has eaten into matlabs ridiculous grip on universities.

Well that's cool.

I know a little Python, probably not enough to get paid for doing it. I kind of wish I had taken Computer Science instead of all that industrial bullshit in college. Every now and then I'll search for jobs looking for Python. Usually one or two will pop up, generally web based stuff. Looked just now, and damn if there isn't an "elecromechanical systems engineer" position in the area looking for Python and C#. I'm totally not qualified for it, but it's interesting to see.

When it comes to coding, my advice is - fuck qualifications and just blag it. Best motivator I have found to learn a new language is when I'm on the spot and pretty much need to suss it out by the end of the month or I don't get paid.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?

It will be.   :lulz:  It's balls-perfect for SCADA systems, and I have no idea why people haven't adopted it.

We plan to interface and eventually replace.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 29, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?
It's used a lot in data analytics and has eaten into matlabs ridiculous grip on universities.

Well that's cool.

I know a little Python, probably not enough to get paid for doing it. I kind of wish I had taken Computer Science instead of all that industrial bullshit in college. Every now and then I'll search for jobs looking for Python. Usually one or two will pop up, generally web based stuff. Looked just now, and damn if there isn't an "elecromechanical systems engineer" position in the area looking for Python and C#. I'm totally not qualified for it, but it's interesting to see.

What was your major?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on June 29, 2017, 07:23:35 AM
Why is this thread stickied all of a sudden?

I literally thought it had disappeared for days. :lulz:

No idea.  If I did it, I don't remember doing it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2017, 10:17:29 PM
I didn't do it, unless it was by accident.  Gonna unsticky.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2017, 10:18:34 PM
In other news, I'm watching 50 billion cases of child neglect unfold before my eyes.

Only 3 nights until I can escape...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 30, 2017, 05:55:18 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 29, 2017, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 29, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?
It's used a lot in data analytics and has eaten into matlabs ridiculous grip on universities.

Well that's cool.

I know a little Python, probably not enough to get paid for doing it. I kind of wish I had taken Computer Science instead of all that industrial bullshit in college. Every now and then I'll search for jobs looking for Python. Usually one or two will pop up, generally web based stuff. Looked just now, and damn if there isn't an "elecromechanical systems engineer" position in the area looking for Python and C#. I'm totally not qualified for it, but it's interesting to see.

When it comes to coding, my advice is - fuck qualifications and just blag it. Best motivator I have found to learn a new language is when I'm on the spot and pretty much need to suss it out by the end of the month or I don't get paid.

I've been working on a shooting gallery for about 2 years now. It's got an Arduino Mega, and a Raspberry Pi B+. The Pi is running some Python, and the Arduino has whatever language Arduinos use, some kind of C. I'm just now getting back into programming it. I got most of the software written right out of the gate, then spent a year and a half building the thing. Most of my experience with Python has been in writing programs to control servos for what basically amounts to interactive puppet shows.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 30, 2017, 06:04:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?

It will be.   :lulz:  It's balls-perfect for SCADA systems, and I have no idea why people haven't adopted it.

We plan to interface and eventually replace.

Wow. I had to google Python SCADA. Found PySCADA Looks like it could become something interesting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 30, 2017, 06:14:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 29, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?
It's used a lot in data analytics and has eaten into matlabs ridiculous grip on universities.

Well that's cool.

I know a little Python, probably not enough to get paid for doing it. I kind of wish I had taken Computer Science instead of all that industrial bullshit in college. Every now and then I'll search for jobs looking for Python. Usually one or two will pop up, generally web based stuff. Looked just now, and damn if there isn't an "elecromechanical systems engineer" position in the area looking for Python and C#. I'm totally not qualified for it, but it's interesting to see.

What was your major?


B.S. in "Electromechanical Engineering Technology", Graduated in 2009 when the economy was in the shitter. I couldn't even get an interview for engineering jobs, so I took a job repairing cellphones for $12 an hour, and stayed there for 5 years until the job evaporated. While on unemployment, I signed up for an industrial electrical maintenance program at the local Vo-Tech college. It was mostly the same stuff, but with a lot less math, and zero early 20th century French literature. I just graduated a couple of months ago.

There are a lot more maintenance jobs than engineering jobs around here. I'm hoping to land something in maintenance, then work my way up to something a little more like engineering.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 30, 2017, 07:10:21 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 30, 2017, 06:14:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 29, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
Our SQL database is written in Delta, which is a crippled up version of BASIC used for air conditioning controls.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Sending our neckbeard to go learn Python.  GRIND, CODE-MONKEY, GRIND!

Is Python used industrially?

What is he going to do with the Python? Replace the Delta, or just interface with it?
It's used a lot in data analytics and has eaten into matlabs ridiculous grip on universities.

Well that's cool.

I know a little Python, probably not enough to get paid for doing it. I kind of wish I had taken Computer Science instead of all that industrial bullshit in college. Every now and then I'll search for jobs looking for Python. Usually one or two will pop up, generally web based stuff. Looked just now, and damn if there isn't an "elecromechanical systems engineer" position in the area looking for Python and C#. I'm totally not qualified for it, but it's interesting to see.

What was your major?


B.S. in "Electromechanical Engineering Technology", Graduated in 2009 when the economy was in the shitter. I couldn't even get an interview for engineering jobs, so I took a job repairing cellphones for $12 an hour, and stayed there for 5 years until the job evaporated. While on unemployment, I signed up for an industrial electrical maintenance program at the local Vo-Tech college. It was mostly the same stuff, but with a lot less math, and zero early 20th century French literature. I just graduated a couple of months ago.

There are a lot more maintenance jobs than engineering jobs around here. I'm hoping to land something in maintenance, then work my way up to something a little more like engineering.

Any pinball companies?  Pinball is filled with tons of electromechanical things.  We just had one company here that went from repair into a making new games.

Not that pinball is a huge market or anything, I'm just kinda fascinated by how they work.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on June 30, 2017, 07:32:44 AM
Re: Facebook measles thread I'm not allowed to comment on.  Can someone point out that better hygiene is going to do squat against an airborne virus?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 30, 2017, 08:01:45 AM
Well, just in case I'm that lucky one-in-a-million that never wakes up from being put under general anesthetic...it's been real, y'all. Hell, I have friends that I've actually met that I don't consider to be as close to me as Roger, Cain, and LMNO. This place has been way more giggles than shits and that's about all you can ask out of anything in life.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: LMNO on June 30, 2017, 12:47:46 PM
Good luck, man.  See you when you wake up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on June 30, 2017, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Trivial on June 30, 2017, 07:10:21 AM
Any pinball companies?  Pinball is filled with tons of electromechanical things.  We just had one company here that went from repair into a making new games.

Not that pinball is a huge market or anything, I'm just kinda fascinated by how they work.

Brewer amusement probably has some pinball games. That's the only company I know of in this area that does that kind of stuff. They own all the arcade games in all the kids party businesses, skating rinks, bowling alleys, etc, and I've heard they own most of the games in the tourist towns in East TN (Gatlinburg, Pigeon Forge, there may be others, I dunno)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 30, 2017, 08:04:07 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on June 30, 2017, 08:01:45 AM
Well, just in case I'm that lucky one-in-a-million that never wakes up from being put under general anesthetic...it's been real, y'all. Hell, I have friends that I've actually met that I don't consider to be as close to me as Roger, Cain, and LMNO. This place has been way more giggles than shits and that's about all you can ask out of anything in life.

Good luck, dude.  Pullin' for ya.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on June 30, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Yea, please don't die. I've heard it's a terrible career move.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on June 30, 2017, 10:39:16 PM
See you when you wake up, ECH dude.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on June 30, 2017, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on June 30, 2017, 08:01:45 AM
Well, just in case I'm that lucky one-in-a-million that never wakes up from being put under general anesthetic...it's been real, y'all. Hell, I have friends that I've actually met that I don't consider to be as close to me as Roger, Cain, and LMNO. This place has been way more giggles than shits and that's about all you can ask out of anything in life.

Have fun getting drugged and cut open.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 01, 2017, 11:43:20 AM
Just finished an all-night overhaul.  I have a fantastic crew.

Going to bed finally.

Night.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on July 01, 2017, 08:33:19 PM
I didn't realise that adult supervision was optional for under-18s.

I mean, I assume it must be since I can't find the staff for them anywhere, and I'm getting noise complaints from the surrounding neighbours.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on July 03, 2017, 06:34:18 AM
Guuuuuuhhhhhh. spent all day helping my sister move in this Arizona heat. Fuck your entire state, Roger. This place was never meant to be lived in. It is a testament to mankind's hubris that we even tried.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on July 03, 2017, 02:13:57 PM
That's it, putting in a bidet.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on July 03, 2017, 07:21:10 PM
Bidet accomplished.   
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on July 03, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
McGuivered up a hose pipe + motor + A wah-wah pedal, or the real deal?

I'm on steriods and antibiotics and my sense of smell has come back after a good 15 years of absense and its horrible, I can't wait for it to go away.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on July 03, 2017, 09:20:16 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 03, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
McGuivered up a hose pipe + motor + A wah-wah pedal, or the real deal?

I'm on steriods and antibiotics and my sense of smell has come back after a good 15 years of absense and its horrible, I can't wait for it to go away.

Got one of these:  http://www.homedepot.com/p/Brondell-Dual-Temperature-Bidet-Attachment-in-White-FSW-20/203357953

I haven't done the warm water part, cold water is rather nice.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2017, 12:14:46 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 03, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
McGuivered up a hose pipe + motor + A wah-wah pedal, or the real deal?

I'm on steriods and antibiotics and my sense of smell has come back after a good 15 years of absense and its horrible, I can't wait for it to go away.

Roger, look at that first part. I have a project and a challenge for you.

It involves a sandblaster.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 04, 2017, 12:39:07 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2017, 12:14:46 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 03, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
McGuivered up a hose pipe + motor + A wah-wah pedal, or the real deal?

I'm on steriods and antibiotics and my sense of smell has come back after a good 15 years of absense and its horrible, I can't wait for it to go away.

Roger, look at that first part. I have a project and a challenge for you.

It involves a sandblaster.

I was thinking a water cutting nozzle, but what the hell?   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2017, 01:29:07 AM
Sandblaster seems a closer fit for purpose.

Do I need to explain the challenge or just give you a time limit?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 04, 2017, 02:06:24 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2017, 01:29:07 AM
Sandblaster seems a closer fit for purpose.

Do I need to explain the challenge or just give you a time limit?

Already designed.

Tape and drill ceramic through back of bowl.  Insert bead-blasting nozzle, secure with bulkhead fitting, aimed at the center of the bowl's top.  Pressure switch under seat set to 230 pounds (I am NOT getting my wife with this), starting air compressor.  Foot pedal on the floor in front of the bowl to release air.

Sorted.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Did not die. Also did not wake up with laser eyes, so we'll call that a wash.

DID get a promotion at work. Entry-level management at a smaller store that's only about 10 minutes farther away in terms of commute time. Also I'll have a daytime schedule and Sundays off (HELLO FOOTBALL SEASON!) and the extra money should be enough to afford a decent day-care for the kiddo.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on July 04, 2017, 09:04:21 PM
Good to hear! happy for ya.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2017, 11:38:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 04, 2017, 02:06:24 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2017, 01:29:07 AM
Sandblaster seems a closer fit for purpose.

Do I need to explain the challenge or just give you a time limit?

Already designed.

Tape and drill ceramic through back of bowl.  Insert bead-blasting nozzle, secure with bulkhead fitting, aimed at the center of the bowl's top.  Pressure switch under seat set to 230 pounds (I am NOT getting my wife with this), starting air compressor.  Foot pedal on the floor in front of the bowl to release air.

Sorted.


:lulz: :mittens:

I await test results with baited breath.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 05, 2017, 01:36:23 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Did not die. Also did not wake up with laser eyes, so we'll call that a wash.

DID get a promotion at work. Entry-level management at a smaller store that's only about 10 minutes farther away in terms of commute time. Also I'll have a daytime schedule and Sundays off (HELLO FOOTBALL SEASON!) and the extra money should be enough to afford a decent day-care for the kiddo.

Excellent on all counts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 05, 2017, 03:24:49 AM
My job is to study urban infrastructure failure modes.

Basically, I look down deep manholes at the future crushed remains of humanity.

I've been waiting all my life for this position.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:19:34 AM
So, this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Lille_(1940)) is why I don't make "French military/cowardice jokes".

The description itself may not be very useful, so let me put it in context.  When the Germans moved to invade France in WWII, it was expected they would attack through the Belgian lowlands.  France had the Maginot Line, and the Ardennes in southern Belgium was wooded, hilly terrain - not good for Germany's tanks.

However, the Germans surprised the French and the British by launching an attack through the Ardennes anyway, making extremely rapid progress through the area despite the conditions.  This threw the British/French military plans into disarray, and led to the evacuation of the British Expeditionary Force at Dunkirk.

Because the French had been expecting the attack through the lowlands, they had of course stationed their most experienced and specialist forces there.  When the attack didn't transpire, the French First Army fought a rearguard action to keep the Germans from completely destroying the British military forces.  It was 40,000 French soldiers, including a significant number of Algerians, versus 110,000 Germans with 800+ tanks...it was only ever going to end one way.  Nevertheless, they held on long enough for the majority of the BEF, along with almost 100,000 French soldiers to be evacuated
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 06, 2017, 04:48:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:19:34 AM
So, this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Lille_(1940)) is why I don't make "French military/cowardice jokes".

The description itself may not be very useful, so let me put it in context.  When the Germans moved to invade France in WWII, it was expected they would attack through the Belgian lowlands.  France had the Maginot Line, and the Ardennes in southern Belgium was wooded, hilly terrain - not good for Germany's tanks.

However, the Germans surprised the French and the British by launching an attack through the Ardennes anyway, making extremely rapid progress through the area despite the conditions.  This threw the British/French military plans into disarray, and led to the evacuation of the British Expeditionary Force at Dunkirk.

Because the French had been expecting the attack through the lowlands, they had of course stationed their most experienced and specialist forces there.  When the attack didn't transpire, the French First Army fought a rearguard action to keep the Germans from completely destroying the British military forces.  It was 40,000 French soldiers, including a significant number of Algerians, versus 110,000 Germans with 800+ tanks...it was only ever going to end one way.  Nevertheless, they held on long enough for the majority of the BEF, along with almost 100,000 French soldiers to be evacuated

Yeah, they never ran.  They were annihilated.  Their officer corps were nothing to brag about, but their troops had guts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 06, 2017, 05:31:43 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:19:34 AM
So, this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Lille_(1940)) is why I don't make "French military/cowardice jokes".

The description itself may not be very useful, so let me put it in context.  When the Germans moved to invade France in WWII, it was expected they would attack through the Belgian lowlands.  France had the Maginot Line, and the Ardennes in southern Belgium was wooded, hilly terrain - not good for Germany's tanks.

However, the Germans surprised the French and the British by launching an attack through the Ardennes anyway, making extremely rapid progress through the area despite the conditions.  This threw the British/French military plans into disarray, and led to the evacuation of the British Expeditionary Force at Dunkirk.

Because the French had been expecting the attack through the lowlands, they had of course stationed their most experienced and specialist forces there.  When the attack didn't transpire, the French First Army fought a rearguard action to keep the Germans from completely destroying the British military forces.  It was 40,000 French soldiers, including a significant number of Algerians, versus 110,000 Germans with 800+ tanks...it was only ever going to end one way.  Nevertheless, they held on long enough for the majority of the BEF, along with almost 100,000 French soldiers to be evacuated

Neither do I.

In my case, however, it's because of all of the WWI monuments I've seen in little French villages all over the country. (I have yet to see all of France, but I have had the opportunity to see a good bit of it over the years.)

Anyway, it's been my experience that nearly every French village has two monuments near its center. Typically, there is a relatively small, granite monument dedicated to the men lost in WWII. And, right next to it, there will be a large monument dedicated to the men lost in WWI.

Quite often, the number of men listed as lost in WWI is staggeringly large compared to the actual size of the village. (Unlike Americans, the French tend to live in cities and villages, rather than scattering themselves out across the countryside on individual, small parcels of land. I've often marveled at the amount of empty countryside to be found between French villages, when compared to what I'm accustomed to seeing in the States.) Upon seeing those monuments, I immediately realized the body count was so high in WWI that nearly an entire generation of men had been lost to many, many of the villages I have visited.

So, yeah, the French, and the British, got outmaneuvered in WWII. (And we Americans had our defeats too, like Pearl Harbor.) But, that is not a reflection upon the willingness of the French, or the British, to defend their countries, or their allies.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on July 06, 2017, 05:43:46 AM
I didn't know that, thank you Cain.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:11:51 PM
WWI was even worse for France, it's true.  Their losses were significant enough to impact on French demographics, 4% of their entire population was wiped out in 4 years.  In total terms, they took 22 times the amount of casualties America did in the Vietnam war in just under half the time, on a population 4.5 times smaller.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:14:12 PM
In other news, I wasn't ambushed by MI5 trainees at the office today.  Instead I was given an envelope suspiciously full of cash.  This wasn't my commission, if it was I could quit the school job no worries.  And I'm still not clear what the money is for, precisely.

So it's going to sit in that envelope for the next 6 months, to see what happens next.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on July 06, 2017, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:14:12 PM
In other news, I wasn't ambushed by MI5 trainees at the office today.  Instead I was given an envelope suspiciously full of cash.  This wasn't my commission, if it was I could quit the school job no worries.  And I'm still not clear what the money is for, precisely.

So it's going to sit in that envelope for the next 6 months, to see what happens next.

That is pretty suspicious.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on July 06, 2017, 05:19:37 PM
This "Hobby Lobby gets busted for illicit trade in thousands of ancient artifacts" shit is the first thing I woke up to this morning, and now I feel like my whole brain has been knocked off-center.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 07, 2017, 01:46:27 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on July 06, 2017, 05:19:37 PM
This "Hobby Lobby gets busted for illicit trade in thousands of ancient artifacts" shit is the first thing I woke up to this morning, and now I feel like my whole brain has been knocked off-center.

Never underestimate to what depths octagenarian craft-freaks will sink to satisfy their habit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 07, 2017, 01:47:10 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:14:12 PM
In other news, I wasn't ambushed by MI5 trainees at the office today.  Instead I was given an envelope suspiciously full of cash.  This wasn't my commission, if it was I could quit the school job no worries.  And I'm still not clear what the money is for, precisely.

So it's going to sit in that envelope for the next 6 months, to see what happens next.

This will end well.  I can sense it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on July 07, 2017, 02:16:02 PM
Don't you love it when a Software developer+retailer advertises specific functions of a program as costing $800, but then includes the standalone version of the aforementioned program function in the installation files of the very limited trial version of the program? That shit's the best.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Faust on July 07, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
That depends on the EULA, if they are trusting you to pay for it if you are using a trial, it's dumb on their part but its dishonest if you use it continuously.

A lot of companies operate on trust, Like teamviewer, its free version is used and abused by companies around the world, and all they have is a message on exiting the machine saying, if you are using this for business, please consider getting a business licence.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on July 07, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
WARNING: this post could be disturbing and/or depressing...


There was a squirrel with no eyes on the corner of my street this morning. I was on my way to work and couldn't find anything to put it in... it was in a state of utter confusion, I tried clapping my hands to make it flee away from the street (it's not exactly a main road, but people tend to zip up and down it at great speeds sometimes), but it approached my clapping sounds, rather than flee. I kicked some leaves and it jumped in the air about 3 feet, then slowly started approaching me again. It had small wounds on its face, I assume from running into things... I myself saw it run into a brick while I was nearby.

The eyes didn't seem to have been eaten out, it was not bloody where they had been, it looked white and fluffy. My sounds to try to get it to avoid the street ended up actually making it run into the street. It avoided 2 cars through sheer luck and somehow made it close to the other side of the street, at which point I sort of wandered away in a state of confusion, shock, and disturbed. I called animal control, but they said it can take up to 2 hours for their people to arrive, and without the squirrel being confined...

I feel like I really let this squirrel down. I'm sure it won't make it through the morning, and probably couldn't exist in nature, but damn... I think I could have done more.

This is going to haunt my day.

Sorry for possibly depressing anyone who read this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: POFP on July 07, 2017, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 07, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
That depends on the EULA, if they are trusting you to pay for it if you are using a trial, it's dumb on their part but its dishonest if you use it continuously.

A lot of companies operate on trust, Like teamviewer, its free version is used and abused by companies around the world, and all they have is a message on exiting the machine saying, if you are using this for business, please consider getting a business licence.

Well, this software doesn't have a personal version at all. The trial is just a severely limited version of the actual software, which has two levels of support. To get the function that I found, you had to buy, not just the product, but the extended version of the product. And the documentation states over and over again that the functionality is "only available in the forensic edition (this is the extended version)." Based on this, I'd assume the installation files for the trial would be limited to only the functionalities outlined for that installation. But they included everything, and simply added the limitation to the GUI. The standalone is a command line tool the main GUI applet would interact with behind the scenes, had I paid for it.

So it seems like the company was just counting on the user not being willing to Google the Manual for the software, and not being curious enough to search the installation files for the file the manual tells you how to access (But only if you "bought the extended version").

Also, I'm not too worried about dishonesty in these cases. Packaging behavior like this promotes poor security and security through obscurity. This flaw was easily avoidable, and should be exploited. Especially since the only people who use this software are usually hackers and cops. Just so happens I needed this software to help out a friend.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 08, 2017, 06:45:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

W00T!!!  :hammer:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on July 08, 2017, 07:12:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

Congrats man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on July 08, 2017, 10:17:19 AM
I'm being offered the opportunity to go work in/around Thailand for a couple of years trying to drum up some business/providing technical support for my company.

On one hand that sounds awesome.
On the other hand that sounds hard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on July 08, 2017, 12:27:05 PM
Say yes and make sure you get a good deal.

I can't encourage this strongly enough. Will detail reasons if needed but they're pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on July 08, 2017, 11:04:08 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

<3
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Junkenstein on July 09, 2017, 12:46:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

Wow be unto Tucson, the secret empires ruler has been given more time to bask and gather precious non renewable solar energies for the eventual coup.

Let's face it, the way most states will end isn't nice but some will be more dramatic than others. Florida, for instance will probably just die of old age. Texas to barbarism. Most of the west coast to repo men. Those states to inbreeding. The fate of Arizona has lizards all over it whichever way you look.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

:)

I get all tingly thinking about how ultimately some douche attempting to lay you low has resulted in you finding greater opportunity. Glad to hear it!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:08:42 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 09, 2017, 12:46:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

Wow be unto Tucson, the secret empires ruler has been given more time to bask and gather precious non renewable solar energies for the eventual coup.

Let's face it, the way most states will end isn't nice but some will be more dramatic than others. Florida, for instance will probably just die of old age. Texas to barbarism. Most of the west coast to repo men. Those states to inbreeding. The fate of Arizona has lizards all over it whichever way you look.

It's always been lizards.  And roadrunners that screech like Goddamn pterodactyls.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:09:22 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

:)

I get all tingly thinking about how ultimately some douche attempting to lay you low has resulted in you finding greater opportunity. Glad to hear it!

Yeah, he's still a douchebag, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:09:22 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

:)

I get all tingly thinking about how ultimately some douche attempting to lay you low has resulted in you finding greater opportunity. Glad to hear it!

Yeah, he's still a douchebag, though.

Yeah. I'm hoping they get found out. Even more I'm hoping they don't find out about being found out until it's far too late.  :evil:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:24:31 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:09:22 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

:)

I get all tingly thinking about how ultimately some douche attempting to lay you low has resulted in you finding greater opportunity. Glad to hear it!

Yeah, he's still a douchebag, though.

Yeah. I'm hoping they get found out. Even more I'm hoping they don't find out about being found out until it's far too late.  :evil:

Wait.  What?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 05:26:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:24:31 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:09:22 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

:)

I get all tingly thinking about how ultimately some douche attempting to lay you low has resulted in you finding greater opportunity. Glad to hear it!

Yeah, he's still a douchebag, though.

Yeah. I'm hoping they get found out. Even more I'm hoping they don't find out about being found out until it's far too late.  :evil:

Wait.  What?

That whoever may be responsible gets caught and doesn't realize it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 05:31:16 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 05:26:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:24:31 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2017, 05:09:22 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

:)

I get all tingly thinking about how ultimately some douche attempting to lay you low has resulted in you finding greater opportunity. Glad to hear it!

Yeah, he's still a douchebag, though.

Yeah. I'm hoping they get found out. Even more I'm hoping they don't find out about being found out until it's far too late.  :evil:

Wait.  What?

That whoever may be responsible gets caught and doesn't realize it.

As a side note I just took my pills about a couple hours ago. My coherence may vary.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 09, 2017, 08:41:58 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Guess who has two thumbs and just got promoted based on shitpocalypse and some energy efficiency work?

:banana:

The title is nice, and so is the recognition, but it's the filthy fucking lucre that hits me in the feels.

TGRR,
Icarus?  Never heard of him.

Congratulations!

So, you really are one of those guys people tell stories about. By that I mean those mythical guys that can fall into shithouses and come out wearing new suits. How about that!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on July 09, 2017, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 09, 2017, 08:41:58 AMHow about that!

Cash me outside.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on July 09, 2017, 11:56:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 09, 2017, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 09, 2017, 08:41:58 AMHow about that!

Cash me outside.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 10, 2017, 04:34:44 AM
I just read a straight faced, no bullshit article on why using goblins as bad guys in D&D is "problematic", in that it's colonialism.  Because it's totally okay to conflate real people with real lives with imaginary bad guys.

SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED, RWHN HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

But let's all keep on going.  See where it takes us.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on July 10, 2017, 08:21:33 AM
This is one of those "I've just learned a word so I'm going to apply it even if its not actually useful here" moments.

Like, the thing about portraying goblins as Always Chaotic Evil is stupid and lazy, but any half-decent DM knows how to work around that (just in the way you get marauding human gangs bent on conquest - see Syria - goblins can do exactly the same).  Goblins are just like people, only smaller, greener and worth less XP.  Which means just like humans, they can be shit.

(fun fact: Tolkein was always uncomfortable with his own portrayal of Orcs as being beyond the possibility of redemption, due to his own Catholic beliefs).

Also, besides the point, but if they are talking about that, the age of propaganda that portrays your enemy as subhuman does coincide with the high tide of European empires, but occured way after the process of colonisation.  As Darwinian concepts became more acceptable in the mainsteam, they were married to an ugly form of nationalism that was often directed first and foremost against other European nations, as a form of war preparation, psychologically prepping society for action in the event of conflict.  By the 1890s, such a conflict was already seen as inevitable, and likely played a key role in the rise of fascism (the more you know...).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on July 10, 2017, 03:41:35 PM
Just won $500 worth of booze!

Scrid, everyone's drinks are on me!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Freeky on July 10, 2017, 08:20:34 PM
I made my first sale last week. :D
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on July 10, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 10, 2017, 04:34:44 AM
I just read a straight faced, no bullshit article on why using goblins as bad guys in D&D is "problematic", in that it's colonialism.  Because it's totally okay to conflate real people with real lives with imaginary bad guys.

SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED, RWHN HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

But let's all keep on going.  See where it takes us.

Link? My googlefu is weak and showing me wiki entries on the common goblin for every RPG ever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 10, 2017, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on July 10, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 10, 2017, 04:34:44 AM
I just read a straight faced, no bullshit article on why using goblins as bad guys in D&D is "problematic", in that it's colonialism.  Because it's totally okay to conflate real people with real lives with imaginary bad guys.

SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED, RWHN HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

But let's all keep on going.  See where it takes us.

Link? My googlefu is weak and showing me wiki entries on the common goblin for every RPG ever.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/20416871387/permalink/10155585401021388/
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on July 10, 2017, 11:49:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 10, 2017, 04:34:44 AM
I just read a straight faced, no bullshit article on why using goblins as bad guys in D&D is "problematic", in that it's colonialism.  Because it's totally okay to conflate real people with real lives with imaginary bad guys.

SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED, RWHN HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

But let's all keep on going.  See where it takes us.

Meant to comment on this earlier... I had a player in a game make this exact argument. It was the Extremely Green Baby Making Machine I have written about in the past... Sometimes DMing is not even worth it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 10, 2017, 11:52:25 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 10, 2017, 11:49:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 10, 2017, 04:34:44 AM
I just read a straight faced, no bullshit article on why using goblins as bad guys in D&D is "problematic", in that it's colonialism.  Because it's totally okay to conflate real people with real lives with imaginary bad guys.

SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED, RWHN HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

But let's all keep on going.  See where it takes us.

Meant to comment on this earlier... I had a player in a game make this exact argument. It was the Extremely Green Baby Making Machine I have written about in the past... Sometimes DMing is not even worth it.

Yeah, I am reasonably certain my other players would make the offender do "The Walk of a Thousand Four-Siders" for wrecking the game with real world horseshit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Don Coyote on July 11, 2017, 01:27:29 AM
Thanks, I read this last week and it promptly fell out of my head. Like Cain said, this reads either like someone who just learned what (neo)colonialism is and is suddenly very very troubled by their elfgame, or who just learned some new word to make themselves sound erudite. I don't think they are 100% wrong, several TSR era depictions of goblins and other humanoids did lean heavily on negative stereotyping of minorities to extent that they were illustrated like pickaninnies in a at least one TSR supplement. But I do think that they are far from clever in their "subvert the trope" because almost everybody does that with humanoids at least once.

If you really want to bind him around his axle, call his use of "race" to describe a separate species problematic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Ben Shapiro on July 11, 2017, 03:45:54 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 10, 2017, 04:34:44 AM
I just read a straight faced, no bullshit article on why using goblins as bad guys in D&D is "problematic", in that it's colonialism.  Because it's totally okay to conflate real people with real lives with imaginary bad guys.

SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED, RWHN HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

But let's all keep on going.  See where it takes us.

Goblins = Jews
Dwarves = Mexicans
Elves=White People
Orcs= ????
Dark Elves= Asians
Halflings= Middle Easterner's
Otherkin= ????
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Cain on July 11, 2017, 04:30:36 AM
Orcs are Maoris and Otherkin are Nazi Furs.  It is known.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Bruno on July 11, 2017, 06:01:44 AM
and in ST:TOS Klingons were, like, space mongolians or something maybe, then in ST:TNG they were space black space vikings.


It was very confusing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: hooplala on July 11, 2017, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 11, 2017, 04:30:36 AM
Orcs are Maoris and Otherkin are Nazi Furs.  It is known.

It is known.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
Post by: Trivial on July 12, 2017, 02:33:17 AM
Goddamnit I want beer, I want sushi, I want a fucking melty chocolate chip cookie, and lemon meringue pie.  :argh!: