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Principia Discordia => Think for Yourself, Schmuck! => Topic started by: Mangrove on October 11, 2007, 08:08:53 PM

Title: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on October 11, 2007, 08:08:53 PM
Bare Minimum BIP as recovered from an ancient manuscript in the archives of SSOOKN.
 
 
1. What you think of as REALITY is, a collection of ideas and beliefs about REALITY. Many of the ideas you have about REALITY come from the culture in which you were raised and have accumulated haphazardly over time.

2. This, in itself, is not a problem. The problem is in forgetting point number 1. When you forget point 1, you mistake your ideas about reality for being REALITY itself.  Of this, it has been said 'the menu is not the meal'. Please refrain from eating the menu. 

3. People who 'eat the menu' frequently become confused and annoyed when other people insist on seeing REALITY in a different way.  All that truly differs are their ideas and beliefs about REALITY.

4. Beliefs are just thoughts you keep having.

5. No living being is capable of perceiving all of REALITY, as all senses of perception are limited. Humans can only see, hear, smell, taste and feel within certain parameters.  Information entering our senses undergoes compression, filtration, distortion, before interpretation.  Interpretation is what happens when information meets your 'beliefs'.

6. For no good reason, we call this composite of Being & Biological Limits THE BLACK IRON PRISON and is a metaphor about existence. It means that there is very little you can do about biology however you can choose what becomes part of your beliefs. (Always keeping point 1 in mind). 

7. Each person exists within their own, unique BIP 'cell'. The cell is composed of: 

a) Biological limits – these are largely unchangeable.
b) Belief systems – these are highly changeable. 

Because of (a) the BIP cell cannot be escaped.
Because of (b) your life experience, your 'cell', can be altered drastically. This is what we try to call 'reconstruction'. 

8. A life long commitment to continual reconstruction is known, ironically, as 'The Jail Break'.  Reconstruction is HARD WORK.

9. The collection of beliefs, thoughts, notions etc that form your cell are all equally VALID, though none are TRUE in the sense that they "are" REALITY. However, some beliefs and ideas are more useful than others in specific situations. It is up to the individual to decide which beliefs and ideas they should employ in a given situation. 

10. Some people believe that the term BLACK IRON PRISON is dark, bleak, depressing and even frightening.  If you prefer, use the term GOLDEN SPHERE of POSSIBILITY (GSP) instead. It means exactly the same thing as BIP and all points still apply. 

11. BIP (or GSP) can be philosophical antidote to dogmatism.
 
You are cordially invited to a Jail Break.
 
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Cramulus on October 11, 2007, 08:12:32 PM
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/mittens2.gif)
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on October 11, 2007, 08:16:31 PM
It's a joint Mangrove/LMNO production.

The idea was to condense things down as much as possible. I like to think of it as a companion to LMNO's 'Hey Kid...' piece.

Of course, it's open to further revision. If anyone can improvements, we're all ears.

Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: LMNO on October 11, 2007, 08:23:01 PM
I just noticed a couple of punctuation issues, I'll deal with them when I care enough.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: AFK on October 11, 2007, 08:27:22 PM
mega kudos.  And at an 11pt font it fits on one page.  I think this needs to go up on the wiki, that is, when the SSOOKN folks deem it ready. 
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on October 11, 2007, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 11, 2007, 08:27:22 PM
mega kudos.  And at an 11pt font it fits on one page.  I think this needs to go up on the wiki, that is, when the SSOOKN folks deem it ready. 

ready is when LMNO cares enough to fix the punctuation.

Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: LMNO on October 11, 2007, 08:35:44 PM
It's 3:30 pm.   Remind me again at 7:45 am.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 11, 2007, 08:43:22 PM
You may want to differentiate between REALITY and REALITY in the first couple points. Maybe Reality and REALITY or reality and Reality or something...
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: LMNO on October 11, 2007, 08:47:36 PM
Actually, REALITY in all the all-caps instances, means all of the Universe, percieved and not-percieved, in every instance.


Unless you can point to a use of REALITY we missed, of course.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on October 11, 2007, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 11, 2007, 08:35:44 PM
It's 3:30 pm.   Remind me again at 7:45 am.

I won't be awake then.

Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: AFK on October 11, 2007, 08:58:04 PM
I don't usually check in until 8:30.  Maybe we can get one of the Scotts to remind him. 
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on October 11, 2007, 09:00:27 PM
I suppose that if if it really bothered me, I could set my alarm.

But I won't.

Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 11, 2007, 09:01:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 11, 2007, 08:47:36 PM
Actually, REALITY in all the all-caps instances, means all of the Universe, percieved and not-percieved, in every instance.


Unless you can point to a use of REALITY we missed, of course.

I stand corrected, I misread the first point and conflated the two realities.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Payne on October 11, 2007, 10:12:45 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 11, 2007, 08:58:04 PM
I don't usually check in until 8:30.  Maybe we can get one of the Scotts to remind him. 

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/alarmclock.png)
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Cramulus on October 11, 2007, 10:23:37 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: hooplala on October 11, 2007, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on October 11, 2007, 08:08:53 PM
Bare Minimum BIP as recovered from an ancient manuscript in the archives of SSOOKN.
 
 
1. What you think of as REALITY is, a collection of ideas and beliefs about REALITY. Many of the ideas you have about REALITY come from the culture in which you were raised and have accumulated haphazardly over time.

2. This, in itself, is not a problem. The problem is in forgetting point number 1. When you forget point 1, you mistake your ideas about reality for being REALITY itself.  Of this, it has been said 'the menu is not the meal'. Please refrain from eating the menu. 

3. People who 'eat the menu' frequently become confused and annoyed when other people insist on seeing REALITY in a different way.  All that truly differs are their ideas and beliefs about REALITY.

4. Beliefs are just thoughts you keep having.

5. No living being is capable of perceiving all of REALITY, as all senses of perception are limited. Humans can only see, hear, smell, taste and feel within certain parameters.  Information entering our senses undergoes compression, filtration, distortion, before interpretation.  Interpretation is what happens when information meets your 'beliefs'.

6. For no good reason, we call this composite of Being & Biological Limits THE BLACK IRON PRISON and is a metaphor about existence. It means that there is very little you can do about biology however you can choose what becomes part of your beliefs. (Always keeping point 1 in mind). 

7. Each person exists within their own, unique BIP 'cell'. The cell is composed of: 

a) Biological limits – these are largely unchangeable.
b) Belief systems – these are highly changeable. 

Because of (a) the BIP cell cannot be escaped.
Because of (b) your life experience, your 'cell', can be altered drastically. This is what we try to call 'reconstruction'. 

8. A life long commitment to continual reconstruction is known, ironically, as 'The Jail Break'.  Reconstruction is HARD WORK.

9. The collection of beliefs, thoughts, notions etc that form your cell are all equally VALID, though none are TRUE in the sense that they "are" REALITY. However, some beliefs and ideas are more useful than others in specific situations. It is up to the individual to decide which beliefs and ideas they should employ in a given situation. 

10. Some people believe that the term BLACK IRON PRISON is dark, bleak, depressing and even frightening.  If you prefer, use the term GOLDEN SPHERE of POSSIBILITY (GSP) instead. It means exactly the same thing as BIP and all points still apply. 

11. BIP (or GSP) can be philosophical antidote to dogmatism.
 
You are cordially invited to a Jail Break.
 


That is fucking beautiful.

Amen.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on October 12, 2007, 01:21:41 AM
Payne - WOMP =  :lulz:

Hoopla - Thanks, man.

I have no design skills, tools or software, nor could I turn anything into an easily printable flyer. So, if anyone wants to turn the text into a work of art for distribution, then please do so.

Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: LMNO on October 12, 2007, 02:30:55 PM
Good morning!




Bare Minimum BIP as recovered from an ancient manuscript in the archives of SSOOKN.


1. What you think of as REALITY is a collection of ideas and beliefs about REALITY. Many of the ideas you have about REALITY come from the culture in which you were raised and have accumulated haphazardly over time.

2. This, in itself, is not a problem. The problem is in forgetting point number 1. When you forget point 1, you mistake your ideas about reality for being REALITY itself.  Of this, it has been said 'the menu is not the meal'. Please refrain from eating the menu.

3. People who 'eat the menu' frequently become confused and annoyed when other people insist on seeing REALITY in a different way.  All that truly differs are their ideas and beliefs about REALITY.

4. Beliefs are just thoughts you keep having.

5. No living being is capable of perceiving all of REALITY, as all senses of perception are limited. Humans can only see, hear, smell, taste and feel within certain parameters.  Information entering our senses undergoes compression, filtration, and distortion, before interpretation.  Interpretation is what happens when information meets your 'beliefs'.

6. For no good reason, we call this composite of Belief & Biological Limits THE BLACK IRON PRISON and is a metaphor about existence. It means that there is very little you can do about biology; however, you can choose what becomes part of your beliefs. (Always keeping point 1 in mind).

7. Each person exists within their own, unique BIP 'cell'. The cell is composed of:

a) Biological limits – these are largely unchangeable.
b) Belief systems – these are highly changeable.

Because of (a) the BIP cell cannot be escaped.
Because of (b) your life experience, your 'cell', can be altered drastically. This is what we try to call 'reconstruction'.

8. A life long commitment to continual reconstruction is known, ironically, as 'The Jail Break'.  Reconstruction is HARD WORK.

9. The collection of beliefs, thoughts, notions etc that form your cell are all equally VALID, though none are TRUE in the sense that they "are" REALITY. However, some beliefs and ideas are more useful than others in specific situations. It is up to the individual to decide which beliefs and ideas they should employ in a given situation.

10. Some people believe that the term BLACK IRON PRISON is dark, bleak, depressing and even frightening.  If you prefer, use the term GOLDEN SPHERE of POSSIBILITY (GSP) instead. It means exactly the same thing as BIP and all points still apply.

11. BIP (or GSP) can be philosophical antidote to dogmatism.

You are cordially invited to a Jail Break.



Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on October 12, 2007, 09:47:57 PM
LMNO = RAH

That is all.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Cain on October 14, 2007, 12:03:29 PM
I tried to do an audio version of this...an hour and a half later, I'm still not convinced my voice isn't too nasally (blocked nose).

But anyway, here it is.

http://www.mediafire.com/?bexcyjswzll
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 14, 2007, 08:26:59 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 14, 2007, 12:03:29 PM
I tried to do an audio version of this...an hour and a half later, I'm still not convinced my voice isn't too nasally (blocked nose).

But anyway, here it is.

http://www.mediafire.com/?bexcyjswzll

Not bad. It's a little bit nasally, but not so much that it distracts from what you're saying.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Cain on October 14, 2007, 08:28:19 PM
Thanks.  Yeah, I'm really hoping this clears tomorrow or the day after.  I've already gone through 4 packs of tissues in as many days, its starting to eat into my bribery budget.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on May 28, 2008, 01:18:15 AM
BUMP

In case some talented individual sees this and adds it to the BIP wiki.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: AFK on May 28, 2008, 01:49:40 PM
done.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: NWC on May 28, 2008, 03:45:22 PM
Thanks for the bump. I have a friend who is in dire need of reading th BIP, but she's lazy as fuck. She read the first page, said, "this thing sounds PERFECT for me! Thank you!" and never got past the first page.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Mangrove on May 28, 2008, 08:46:09 PM
Quote from: Rev. Whats His Name? on May 28, 2008, 01:49:40 PM
done.

Thank you!

Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: AFK on May 28, 2008, 09:05:05 PM
I please to aim. 
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 28, 2008, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: Payne on October 11, 2007, 10:12:45 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 11, 2007, 08:58:04 PM
I don't usually check in until 8:30.  Maybe we can get one of the Scotts to remind him. 

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/alarmclock.png)

And thus, six months passed before wikification took place.  That is an awesome pic though
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: AFK on May 28, 2008, 09:56:31 PM
Yeah, so if you want me to add anything else you might want to get your requests in soon.   :D
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Verbal Mike on June 21, 2008, 11:34:00 AM
This has been yoinked for the pamphlet appendix. OK?
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: AFK on June 15, 2012, 09:15:36 PM
Bump because this is still awesome.
Title: Re: Bare Minimum BIP (a SSOOKN product)
Post by: Verbal Mike on June 16, 2012, 10:39:54 AM
True.

Quote from: VERBL on June 21, 2008, 11:34:00 AM
This has been yoinked for the pamphlet appendix. OK?
I wonder what the heck that was about. Was that the time I started editing a new edition of the BIP pamphlet? I literally have no clue what ever happened with that.