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Started by Pergamos, March 08, 2014, 08:45:32 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on March 09, 2014, 07:10:21 AM
This has been one of my pet causes for awhile now. I've turned into that dickhead who will, upon being invited into someone's home and told to make themselves welcome, come back from the bathroom and lecture my hosts about how they're dooming us all to some horrible bacterial apocalypse because of the ridiculous anti-bacterial hand soap in the bathroom.

And the worst part is, when you explain it, most people don't care because marketing and buzzwords and BACTERIA BAD! ANTIBACTERIAL GOOD!

I'm banking on some antibiotic resistant superbug plague wiping out all the anti-bacteria/antibiotic freaks and leaving only the ones with a functional immune system, thereby making the world significantly less stupid, on aggregate, overnight :evil:

That's not how it works.  The antibacterial shit kills 99%+ of the germs, instead of just cleaning the germs off and sending them down the drain.

So the only germs left to multiply are the Lou Ferrignos of the germ world.

Every time you use that stuff, you're building a better bug.
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P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2014, 04:06:38 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on March 09, 2014, 07:10:21 AM
This has been one of my pet causes for awhile now. I've turned into that dickhead who will, upon being invited into someone's home and told to make themselves welcome, come back from the bathroom and lecture my hosts about how they're dooming us all to some horrible bacterial apocalypse because of the ridiculous anti-bacterial hand soap in the bathroom.

And the worst part is, when you explain it, most people don't care because marketing and buzzwords and BACTERIA BAD! ANTIBACTERIAL GOOD!

I'm banking on some antibiotic resistant superbug plague wiping out all the anti-bacteria/antibiotic freaks and leaving only the ones with a functional immune system, thereby making the world significantly less stupid, on aggregate, overnight :evil:

That's not how it works.  The antibacterial shit kills 99%+ of the germs, instead of just cleaning the germs off and sending them down the drain.

So the only germs left to multiply are the Lou Ferrignos of the germ world.

Every time you use that stuff, you're building a better bug.

I was under the impression that you are building a more antibiotic-resistant bug. It doesn't follow that they'd be more resistant to a crack team of white blood cells who are used to taking care of business without the aid of antibiotics.

As George Carlin said - "The polio never had a prayer; we were tempered in raw shit"

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2014, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2014, 04:06:38 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on March 09, 2014, 07:10:21 AM
This has been one of my pet causes for awhile now. I've turned into that dickhead who will, upon being invited into someone's home and told to make themselves welcome, come back from the bathroom and lecture my hosts about how they're dooming us all to some horrible bacterial apocalypse because of the ridiculous anti-bacterial hand soap in the bathroom.

And the worst part is, when you explain it, most people don't care because marketing and buzzwords and BACTERIA BAD! ANTIBACTERIAL GOOD!

I'm banking on some antibiotic resistant superbug plague wiping out all the anti-bacteria/antibiotic freaks and leaving only the ones with a functional immune system, thereby making the world significantly less stupid, on aggregate, overnight :evil:

That's not how it works.  The antibacterial shit kills 99%+ of the germs, instead of just cleaning the germs off and sending them down the drain.

So the only germs left to multiply are the Lou Ferrignos of the germ world.

Every time you use that stuff, you're building a better bug.

I was under the impression that you are building a more antibiotic-resistant bug. It doesn't follow that they'd be more resistant to a crack team of white blood cells who are used to taking care of business without the aid of antibiotics.

As George Carlin said - "The polio never had a prayer; we were tempered in raw shit"

They tend to be generally hardier strains that are more virulent and harder to kill regardless of who contracts them. For example, look at MRSA, and the hypervirulent e. coli strains that are coming out of cattle farms.
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Reginald Ret

There is a big difference between antibiotic medication and antibacterial handsoap. The first breeds superbugs, the latter just dries out your skin. You might as well wash your hands with pure alcohol: it definitly kills all bacteria on your hands but it won't breed bacteria that can live inside whiskey.
Unless you are talking about handsoap that has antibiotics in them, in which case: WTF! KILL ME NOW FOR I CANNOT HANDLE THE STUPID.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: :regret: on March 09, 2014, 06:26:28 PM
There is a big difference between antibiotic medication and antibacterial handsoap. The first breeds superbugs, the latter just dries out your skin. You might as well wash your hands with pure alcohol: it definitly kills all bacteria on your hands but it won't breed bacteria that can live inside whiskey.
Unless you are talking about handsoap that has antibiotics in them, in which case: WTF! KILL ME NOW FOR I CANNOT HANDLE THE STUPID.

Yes, there is a difference, but also your reasoning is incorrect, because antibacterial cleaners can also have the side effects of leaving harder-to-kill bacteria alive to reproduce.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

However, it's probably worth pointing out that there isn't really a whole lot of evidence for a higher rate of selection for drug-resistant bacteria in homes that use antibacterial soaps. The big issues are largely hospitals and feedlots.

Then again, there hasn't been a whole lot of research, either.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Ben Shapiro

Sweet I learned a lot in this thread , and destroyed a few misconceptions of super-bugs.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on March 09, 2014, 07:10:21 AM
This has been one of my pet causes for awhile now. I've turned into that dickhead who will, upon being invited into someone's home and told to make themselves welcome, come back from the bathroom and lecture my hosts about how they're dooming us all to some horrible bacterial apocalypse because of the ridiculous anti-bacterial hand soap in the bathroom.

And the worst part is, when you explain it, most people don't care because marketing and buzzwords and BACTERIA BAD! ANTIBACTERIAL GOOD!

I'm banking on some antibiotic resistant superbug plague wiping out all the anti-bacteria/antibiotic freaks and leaving only the ones with a functional immune system, thereby making the world significantly less stupid, on aggregate, overnight :evil:

That'd be a great plan if the entire world consisted only of places where stupid white people buy antibacterial soap.
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East Coast Hustle

And AFAIK, most antibacterial soaps contain triclosan.
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Reginald Ret

Quote from: Tom on March 09, 2014, 06:47:33 PM
However, it's probably worth pointing out that there isn't really a whole lot of evidence for a higher rate of selection for drug-resistant bacteria in homes that use antibacterial soaps. The big issues are largely hospitals and feedlots.

Then again, there hasn't been a whole lot of research, either.
Very much this.
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