And now Kansas is getting into the act

[LMNO]

New bill passes house, will allow any individual, group, or private business to refuse to serve gay couples if "it would be contrary to their sincerely held religious beliefs." 

Bill can be found here.

This isn't one of those "whip up fury, then die in committee" bills, this has passed the House 72 votes to 49, and the Senate skews hard for hate-mongering assholes.

The bill would also allow government clerks to refuse to sign same-sex marriage licenses without threat of a lawsuit.

Basically, businesses can hang up "No Fags Allowed" signs without fear of getting sued.



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[Reginald Ret]

You are aware that the way this is worded works both ways? This is going to be hilarious! I'm imagining some civil servant refusing to marry straight people.

[LMNO]

So long as you can come up with a religious reason to discriminate against straights, sure.

:checks list of major religions:

:checks list of minor religions:

:checks list of irreligons:


Yeah, about that...

[Cain]

Sincerely held religious belief = Jebus.

[Faust]

You are aware that the way this is worded works both ways? This is going to be hilarious! I'm imagining some civil servant refusing to marry straight people.

Sappho be praised!

[Telarus]

Interestingly, a federal judge recently rules that Kentucky MUST recognize same-sex marriages performed out-of-state.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kentucky-must-recognize-gay-marriages-from-other-states-federal-judge-rules/2014/02/12/8ec79508-9410-11e3-b46a-5a3d0d2130da_story.html

[Cain]

Jesus doesn't even recognise those other states.  Is TAXACHUSSETTS in the Bible?  No, exactly.  Ipso facto, out of state gays should go back WHERE THEY CAME FROM (hell).

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Wahoo. Jim Crow for gays.
Get me off this fucking planet.

[Pergamos]

So long as you can come up with a religious reason to discriminate against straights, sure.

:checks list of major religions:

:checks list of minor religions:

:checks list of irreligons:


Yeah, about that...

Church of Euthanasia,  it's against their religion to have children and straight marriage encourages procreation.

[Cain]

What part of "sincere religious conviction = Jesus" are you retards struggling with?

[The Johnny]

maybe somebody is struggling with the "joke" part, chill bro

[Cain]

Except it's not funny.

Every single time a post about people in America using a generalised religious discrimination clause involves people looking for reasons to play along or subvert it. That's missing the point, because the point is this is never going to be applied equally or apply to all religious preferences, the intended design of these laws are to enshrine certain mainstream religious preferences over others.

For people who are meant to be smart, it sure is fucking depressing to see.

[Junkenstein]

This is a very good point. Remember the church of satan guy and his idea to subvert a similar fucked up law?

How far did he get?

Fucking with repressive laws tends to accomplish little. You either need mass appeal against such action (Unlikely as we're talking about the US here) or it will generally become acceptable to the popular mindset. The fact the law passed anyway indicates that it is acceptable to the general population.

[Reginald Ret]

Except it's not funny.

Every single time a post about people in America using a generalised religious discrimination clause involves people looking for reasons to play along or subvert it. That's missing the point, because the point is this is never going to be applied equally or apply to all religious preferences, the intended design of these laws are to enshrine certain mainstream religious preferences over others.

For people who are meant to be smart, it sure is fucking depressing to see.

I gave up hope of improving anything about this fucked up world.
All I do now is laugh when someone gets hurt or is going to get hurt and try to find ways to hurt people within this new system.
It is not sane but it is all i have left.

[LMNO]

Not to mention that if someone from the Church of Euthenasia (if Korda is even still doing that) tried to "subvert" the law, they'd have to bring a suit against the state, and keep appealing all the way up to the Supreme Court, and then win.

Which, when I do a rough probability estimate, no one who really believes in the Four Pillars of "Suicide, Abortion, Cannabalism, and Sodomy" could ever afford to do, or even be taken seriously in a court of law.