Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Captain Utopia on March 03, 2011, 03:36:31 PM

Title: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Captain Utopia on March 03, 2011, 03:36:31 PM
I've started a new thread to make it easier to keep track of modifications to the OP.  Also, if you already have an account at EB&G (http://www.erisbarandgrill.org/forum/), then you automatically have an account on the wiki (http://erisbarandgrill.org/sandbox/index.php/So_Just_Exactly_What_ARE_We_Doing,_Anyway%3F) - it uses the same username+password.

There are no rules to editing the wiki page - anyone can.  There is full version control, so it just takes a few clicks to back-out any changes - so don't worry about breaking anything.  It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission, so just go ahead and do what you think looks right  :)

It might work better to discuss things here, and make edits there?


What I'm looking for at this stage:
Criticism/comments on the way I've split the categories.  Either rewordings or alternative suggestions for the split.

1. Maximize Freedom (7)
  "Make it harder for those who seek to control other people."
  "Encouraging individuals to not only think for themselves, but to get off their asses and do something about it"


2. Reality tunnel escape/intellectual improvement/think for yourself (21)
  "Spread the desire to improve ones knowledge/perspectives."
  "Encourage people to question everything."
  "Show people, who want to, how to attempt a BIP jailbreak."


3. Keep things strange, or more so (11)
  "Demonstrate the fun awesomeness of strange shit which already exists"
  "Make more strange"


4. Have Fun (17)
  "With others - Socialising/Networking"
  "Alone - being exposed to things you think of as fun"
  "Both"


5. Change Political/Cultural climate (2)
  "Change the way politics works"
  "Change cultural norms"


6. Evangelism (4)

7. Reduce Apathy (2)

8. Increase Creativity (2)
  "Through art"
  "In any form"



Title: Re: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on March 04, 2011, 09:40:05 AM
Quote from: Captain Utopia on March 03, 2011, 03:36:31 PM


7. Reduce Apathy (2)


Nobody cares about Apathy.

Title: Re: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Adios on March 04, 2011, 04:37:24 PM
What will success look like?
Title: Re: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Captain Utopia on March 04, 2011, 04:57:01 PM
That's a good question.  The first milestone is, as LMNO described it, a reference or project-building foundation.  I want to start such-and-such a project, okay - I'll contact these people directly.  The wiki (http://erisbarandgrill.org/sandbox/index.php/So_Just_Exactly_What_ARE_We_Doing,_Anyway%3F) is nicer to keep track of that since there is no bottleneck, and people can just add or remove themselves without needing a caretaker.

To some extent we're already there.  But knowing that there are 21 people interested in #2 only has limited usefulness since it can be interpreted at least three different ways, and there is not necessarily any active-interest transference between them, despite being members of the same broader category.

I'm thinking along the same lines of the locality project at EB&G: where you have people in cities and different areas planning a bunch of different things which interest them personally, but where expertise is more easily shared between people in different areas due to the explicit focus on that.
Title: Re: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Adios on March 04, 2011, 05:01:35 PM
Okay, so if I were to write a piece and add my name then at least anyone interested in adding to it or changing it would know who to contact if they felt the need.
Title: Re: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Captain Utopia on March 04, 2011, 05:24:18 PM
Sure - but we already have this to a certain extent.  But if you weren't available, or if they wanted to take it in a different direction, then a reference becomes handy.

I've started filling out a new section for capabilities (http://erisbarandgrill.org/sandbox/index.php/So_Just_Exactly_What_ARE_We_Doing,_Anyway%3F#Capabilities).

As you can see, it's moving more in the direction of providing support for multiple smaller projects, rather than a BIP 2011 megaproject or somesuch.  Not that I'm against the latter, but the former looks to be more easily achievable at this stage.
Title: Re: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Adios on March 04, 2011, 07:38:44 PM
I would still like to work on this, but could you post links at the Bar? Done here.
Title: Re: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Captain Utopia on March 15, 2011, 09:51:33 PM
The categories here are ready to be finalised, pending any further input:
  http://erisbarandgrill.org/sandbox/index.php/So_Just_Exactly_What_ARE_We_Doing,_Anyway%3F

Quote from: Captain Utopia on March 03, 2011, 03:36:31 PM
if you already have an account at EB&G (http://www.erisbarandgrill.org/forum/), then you automatically have an account on the wiki (http://erisbarandgrill.org/sandbox/index.php/So_Just_Exactly_What_ARE_We_Doing,_Anyway%3F) - it uses the same username+password.

Then we can vote on them, and - with accurate data in hand - have an open discussion on what, if anything, we'd like to do about it.

How does that sound?
Title: Re: What ARE We Doing, Anyway? Part 2 - categories
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 16, 2011, 04:58:38 AM
Posting so I can find it later