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Cops bugger traffic violator three times, make him shit.

Started by Bu🤠ns, November 06, 2013, 01:30:38 AM

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Junkenstein

Oh, FFS. Talk about being thorough. I'd bet the police in question still suspect he managed to somehow dispose of whatever he was carrying.

In general, it'd be nice to see more (any) police criticize this shit. Unfortunately the blue wall of silence kicks in hard and the them/us mindset is ingrained. At least the bar has been set for future police atrocities. Just imagine what's happening to the next guy.

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Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on November 06, 2013, 05:53:42 PM
Try googling "Police shoot unarmed man" and you'll see what I mean.

Then try "Police shoot unarmed woman" and "Police shoot unarmed child".

Yeah, my bad. I keep forgetting about the killing thing you guys have going on. I'd be surprised if the ratio of bullets in cops to bullets in civilians in britain, wasn't heavily skewed in the public's favour. Of course the actual numbers are unlikely to reach a couple of dozen in any given year. We don't have the right to bear arms over here but we do have the right to punch out the filth if they're giving us cheek.

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Demolition Squid

We really fucking don't.

When I get home I'll link to the amount of people who die in police custody. And how disproportionately those who die are black or from inner city areas.

Cause trouble and the police here WILL kick your head in. And it'll not even reacb headline news. No police officer in the UK has ever been punished by the IPCC fir use of force. And people do die. Weekly, in London.
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Junkenstein

I'd have to side with demosquid here.

I can see where P3nt's thinking lies. Up until the past couple of decades our cops were largely unarmed and mainly worked through respect. However now they are largely armed (to varying degrees) and rely on fear.

It's also incredibly socially unacceptable to inflict any kind of harm on any UK law enforcement. For example, the BBC carried a story yesterday of a single soldier killed. 1 soldier. 1. When two female police officers died in grenade/shooting attack, it's was a running headline for days.  This bias towards any/all authority is quite common and replicated in the UK press. This leads to self reinforcement creating dangerous situations out of nothing. As punishment is rare and condemnation from their peers absent, abuses persist.

I would strongly suspect a large number of UK police are praying for gun crime to go up as every news item gets them all closer to carrying. Anecdotally, I hear more are willing to carry as well compared to past years. There used to be a trend that the police were resisting being armed so if that's reversing I'd be very worried.
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Quote from: Demolition Squid on November 06, 2013, 07:12:42 PM
We really fucking don't.

When I get home I'll link to the amount of people who die in police custody. And how disproportionately those who die are black or from inner city areas.

Cause trouble and the police here WILL kick your head in. And it'll not even reacb headline news. No police officer in the UK has ever been punished by the IPCC fir use of force. And people do die. Weekly, in London.

Also, check how many of them had mental health conditions.

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There's a mindset, too, and a bunch of media crap that makes it out like assaulting a cop is somehow MORALLY worse than assaulting a regular citizen.

Uhhh...the cop is armed and trained to kill, and cops stick together. He's got a chance. It's not like punching a baby.
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Cain

Quote from: Demolition Squid on November 06, 2013, 07:12:42 PM
We really fucking don't.

When I get home I'll link to the amount of people who die in police custody. And how disproportionately those who die are black or from inner city areas.

Cause trouble and the police here WILL kick your head in. And it'll not even reacb headline news. No police officer in the UK has ever been punished by the IPCC fir use of force. And people do die. Weekly, in London.

One a week for the past decade or so, on average.

Number of police kicked off the force or even facing disciplinary action - precisely zero.

Of course, that the police and the press are best of friends has nothing to do with why people are completely unaware of this.  Or why Parliament refuses to act.

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Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on November 07, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
There's a mindset, too, and a bunch of media crap that makes it out like assaulting a cop is somehow MORALLY worse than assaulting a regular citizen.

Uhhh...the cop is armed and trained to kill, and cops stick together. He's got a chance. It's not like punching a baby.

The idea is that it is an assault on society as a whole.

Society, obviously, being "A collection of individuals who wish to give people forced enemas."
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Cain

I always thought it was a case of people mistaking a bad idea from a common sense point of view (cops are empowered to carry arms, imprison, use lethal force and carry out criminal investigations, and so killing them is a bad idea for your continued good health) for a bad idea from a moral point of view (killing cops makes you even worse than killing random civilians).

Common sense isn't very popular, but moralizing apparently is.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2013, 02:22:44 PM
I always thought it was a case of people mistaking a bad idea from a common sense point of view (cops are empowered to carry arms, imprison, use lethal force and carry out criminal investigations, and so killing them is a bad idea for your continued good health) for a bad idea from a moral point of view (killing cops makes you even worse than killing random civilians).

Common sense isn't very popular, but moralizing apparently is.

That works, too.
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Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 07, 2013, 02:17:11 PM
Society, obviously, being "A collection of individuals who wish to give people forced enemas."


Welcome to Transmet.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO


The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

I think I made that when we were doing the "anonymously write Nigel's friend stories about Tucson" project.