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Keeping a kid's gender secret...

Started by Elder Iptuous, May 24, 2011, 02:09:48 PM

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Elder Iptuous

Oh, what the fuck.....
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http://www.parentcentral.ca/parent/babiespregnancy/babies/article/995112--parents-keep-child-s-gender-secret

that is -bad parenting-
IMO, these people got an outlandish idea in their heads and decided to roll with it, despite the onslaught of valid and important arguments against it, and at the cost of their child's well being.


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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Well, I probably wouldn't do it to any kids I would have... but I think they brought up some valid points about social assumptions. If nothing else, its an interesting social experiment. If their kids went to school, I think it would be a very bad idea. Since they don't, well...

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BabylonHoruv

If the kid socializes at all it is a bad idea.  and not socializing your kids at all is also a bad idea.

Sure there are bullshit assumptions about gender, it's still a real thing and poor Storm is gonna have all sorts of issues when e grows up.
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and the father teaches at a school that teaches "through the lens of race, class, gender, sexuality, and ability," social justice issues and where everyone's a winner, and competition is likely taught to be the root cause of all of the world's problems.

Wonder how they work in any meaningful mathematics and science curriculum based around "social justice".

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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 24, 2011, 03:13:44 PM
If the kid socializes at all it is a bad idea.  and not socializing your kids at all is also a bad idea.

Sure there are bullshit assumptions about gender, it's still a real thing and poor Storm is gonna have all sorts of issues when e grows up.

Depends on the kind of groups they socialize with. Besides they're 5, 2 and <1... if they make their decision well before puberty, they may be just fine.
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Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 24, 2011, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 24, 2011, 03:13:44 PM
If the kid socializes at all it is a bad idea.  and not socializing your kids at all is also a bad idea.

Sure there are bullshit assumptions about gender, it's still a real thing and poor Storm is gonna have all sorts of issues when e grows up.

Depends on the kind of groups they socialize with. Besides they're 5, 2 and <1... if they make their decision well before puberty, they may be just fine.

They'll get to school, and have gender identity inflicted upon them.  Kids are fucking vicious about that sort of shit.
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Quote from: Luna on May 24, 2011, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 24, 2011, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 24, 2011, 03:13:44 PM
If the kid socializes at all it is a bad idea.  and not socializing your kids at all is also a bad idea.

Sure there are bullshit assumptions about gender, it's still a real thing and poor Storm is gonna have all sorts of issues when e grows up.

Depends on the kind of groups they socialize with. Besides they're 5, 2 and <1... if they make their decision well before puberty, they may be just fine.

They'll get to school, and have gender identity inflicted upon them.  Kids are fucking vicious about that sort of shit.

You don't even need that last part.  The GF just started substitute teaching the last few months and some of the stories she brings home reminds me all over again of my own childhood and how vicious kids can be.
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Parents who decide to turn their children into social experiments need to be tied to snow plows in the Colorado Rockies in December.

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kid probably gonna be bullied more than average.

this story reminds me of that kid from eastern asia which has had three arms instead of two. all three arms seemed to be fully functional. the parents let the third arm be cut off, so the kid could live a normal life. i didn't follow that story further.

storm's parents confront themselves with a similiar question. they have to decide for their kid to be either outstanding and revolutionary with a high probability of future media attention and so on, or to be raised like everyone else, with the possibility of being normal. i say revolutionary because i think there's lot of potential to improve the gender system of the world i know. and saying "fu i'm neither male nor female" seems to be one step in the right direction.

of course that experiment could go terribly wrong and the kid could sustain lasting damages because of it or commit suicide or whatever. and it would be the parents fault, without question. on the other hand, imagine how many kids probably sustain lasting damages by being put into a bipolar gender system. even if this is totally socially accepted. maybe even because it is socially accepted.

I wish the parents and their kids good luck. oh and btw i think storm is a boy.

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Quote from: Charley Brown on May 24, 2011, 03:35:54 PM
Parents who decide to turn their children into social experiments need to be tied to snow plows in the Colorado Rockies in December.

This. Kids are not lab rats.
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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Luna on May 24, 2011, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 24, 2011, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on May 24, 2011, 03:13:44 PM
If the kid socializes at all it is a bad idea.  and not socializing your kids at all is also a bad idea.

Sure there are bullshit assumptions about gender, it's still a real thing and poor Storm is gonna have all sorts of issues when e grows up.

Depends on the kind of groups they socialize with. Besides they're 5, 2 and <1... if they make their decision well before puberty, they may be just fine.

They'll get to school, and have gender identity inflicted upon them.  Kids are fucking vicious about that sort of shit.

According to the article they aren't going to go to school. They're going to have some kind of experimental education. (I think that's more of a concern than their gender ID :| )
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Well, at least the kids are gonna get a best-selling memoir out of this one day.