Interview with a Vamp-uh, Libertarian

[Triple Zero]

Wow. That was very interesting, very disturbing and horrible.

the superiority of the natural elite

Pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

Combine with the "no melting pot" cultural and racial separation, this sounds exactly like one rather intellectual racist Italian dude that hung around at a satellite board of ~Seekers, except with a strange capitalist/libertarian bend (which I'm not sure if that dude shared because it didn't really come up back then).

About the scriptedness, it does have a definite "Socratic dialogue" style to it.

[Elder Iptuous]

Cain, i read the links, and will read the next three installments if i can remember.
it's interesting to think about.

[BabylonHoruv]

Some media I'd like to see at this point: a nostalgic glorification of the foundation of labor unions, worker's rights, etc. People need to be reminded corporations would love to employ your children, make you work 80 hour weeks in unsafe conditions, and treat you like a slave. There was a time when you needed to use a precious sick day in order to take Christmas off. Corporations haven't gotten nicer since then, they've gotten more regulated.

That's the best counterargument to radical libertarianism IMO: pointing out the ways that the state is protecting us from ourselves -- and that's a protection we need.

The state fought the labor unions every step of the way.

Mind you libertarians tend to be fanatically opposed to labor unions as well, but pointing out what labor unions have done for us is not exactly an arguement in favor of statism.

[BabylonHoruv]

I wish there was a political position that advocated "weak government AND weak corporations". I don't even know what that would look like, honestly. I'm just sick of the existing ideologies which make us choose between getting screwed by Big Brother or Big Pharma. Can't we have neither? Ah, what an impossible dream.

watered down Anarchism.  That would be...Libertarian Socialism.

[Kai]

So we have segregation of minorities and some of the other worst parts of fascism but without the efficiency or national pride. You have the all pervasive and controlling aspects of communism (down to not being allowed to discuss democracy), but none of proper control structure on industry. You have the opening for gross exploitation by industry of pure capitalism, but no opportunity of free trade or movement between corporations.

Frankly this sounds like all of the CONS of every political structure of the last 200 years with none of the PROS.

I second that. But I say they go make an island in the Pacific Ocean and try it. 

[Bruno]

This just sounds like feudalism with computers.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

This just sounds like feudalism with computers.

This. I kept getting struck by how oligarchic it sounded.

ETA: And just flat out cruel.

[Jenne]

So we have segregation of minorities and some of the other worst parts of fascism but without the efficiency or national pride. You have the all pervasive and controlling aspects of communism (down to not being allowed to discuss democracy), but none of proper control structure on industry. You have the opening for gross exploitation by industry of pure capitalism, but no opportunity of free trade or movement between corporations.

Frankly this sounds like all of the CONS of every political structure of the last 200 years with none of the PROS.

I second that. But I say they go make an island in the Pacific Ocean and try it. 

I thought they did have an island already?

*goes to Google*

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/silicon-valley-billionaire-funding-creation-artificial-libertarian-islands-140840896.html

[Precious Moments Zalgo]

It has been tried several times, always with predictable yet hilarious results.  I know there's thread about it around here somewhere that lists several of them.

ETA: Here and here.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

That was fucking amazing.  

There's no coercion, but you aren't allowed to talk about any other system.   

[Telarus]

That was fucking amazing.  

There's no coercion, but you aren't allowed to talk about any other system.   

I was face-palming so hard by that point.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

That was fucking amazing.  

There's no coercion, but you aren't allowed to talk about any other system.   

I was face-palming so hard by that point.

Can someone show me a difference between this and Stalinism?   

[Faust]

That was fucking amazing.  

There's no coercion, but you aren't allowed to talk about any other system.   

I was face-palming so hard by that point.

Can someone show me a difference between this and Stalinism?   

Stalinism is a lot more consistent and would run into far fewer problems over time.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

I for one, look forward to roughing it out in the Saharan prison colony.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Hey glittersnatch- i think that this means that we end up controlling the oil supply