Crash the Tea Party

[Brotep]

http://www.facebook.com/crashtheteaparty.org

Look at the page for this guy.  It's a parody of a progressive....that's not to say it isn't real, only if it is, I'll be very surprised.  Lives in San Fran, listens to RATM, watches Maddow AND his favourite book is a Peoples History of the USA?  Come on, you're pushing it a bit.

Folks, your skepticism is unwarranted:
Like all true covert operations, it has an official Facebook presence.

[Triple Zero]

So the real question is... how do we hijack this movement and change it from within?
Then we can hijack our other movement and change it from within. Like chinese whispers, but with the mission statement of an organisation. What will our final goal be?

To create a complete circle of infiltration.

I was going to suggest the same thing.

Failing that, perhaps a clusterfuck of infiltrations so convoluted, even RAW couldn't have come up with it.

[LMNO]

Ok, I know this is pedantry, and isn't related to the general subject of counter infiltration, but I've been sitting here itching for the last fifteen minutes, and I have to say it:  That misuse of the semi-colon is really bugging me.




There.  I said it.  I feel better now.  Sorry for the pedantry.

[Cramulus]

it's like nested Russian dolls











inside the smallest doll...

[Cainad (dec.)]

Ok, I know this is pedantry, and isn't related to the general subject of counter infiltration, but I've been sitting here itching for the last fifteen minutes, and I have to say it:  That misuse of the semi-colon is really bugging me.




There.  I said it.  I feel better now.  Sorry for the pedantry.

Glad I'm not the only one.

[Telarus]

I saw the guy who started this on the new last night. He's a teacher from Tigard (just south of PDX). He's been getting death threats and calls from Tea Partiers all over the country.

Organizer of "Crash the Tea Party" is local, threatened
http://www.katu.com/news/local/90815614.html

Best moment of the night: Some right-wing PDX radio host said, "What the hell is this 'kid' doing as a teacher. I wouldn't want a 'kid' like this teaching my children."

To which my girlfriend immediately said, "Fuck you, I would."

[Jenne]

Nee-hice!  Teabaggers show their real purpose with MOAR threats to their opposition.

But then, they've been tagged as "revolutionaries" so I guess threats of violence are considered "Just fine" by their handlers/overseers/creators.

[Jenne]

From the "Crash the Tea Party" facefuck page: http://www.facebook.com/crashtheteaparty

About Us

No, this page hasn't been hacked. I created this page in the first place with the express purpose of demonstrating to my misguided liberal friends what awaits this week if they decide to crash the Tea Party events. As far as I can tell, the Crash The Tea Party web site is as real as it is ridiculous.

In short, they were not smart enough to create a Facebook page so we went ahead and created one and then proceeded to fill it with Tea Party folks before ramping it up. At the time, the actual web site had about 6 users.

The result: There has been almost zero planning and coordination for the effort by the left. Instead, there has been endless flames, sniping and debating. The web site has been flooded by conservatives to the point that it crashes on a regular basis.

I am actually shocked at how little the liberal members of the group tried to actually organize and plan the crash activities. I guess they need SEUI, ACORN or OFA to print up pretty signs for them and provide planning and buses to be successful - unlike the Tea Partiers that organize themselves, pay for their own supplies and get themselves out to events.

I am less surprised that NONE of the liberals tried to argue against the Tea Party on any of the actual issues. Nothing defending the deficit or debt. Nothing about how wonderful the new healthcare mandate it. Nothing about cap and trade or the bail outs or taking over GM. It seems that they really can't argue on the merits so they are left to a single strategy: Demonize the Tea Partiers personally.

So I will take this opportunity to disabuse you of the stereotypes and mis-characterizations about the Tea Party. I am a volunteer and have worked to help stage Tea Party events in my home town. I started and manage the Operation: Can You Hear Us Now protests through Facebook and have worked with many Tea Party members. I am a professional, educated, suburban parent.

In my experience, the Tea Party is much more diverse than the left would like to characterize. I have met Republicans, Libertarians, Independents and even a couple of Democrats. Some are Pro-Life, some are Pro-Choice. Some are religious, many are not. Some, like me, are actually supporters of Gay Marriage.

The Tea Party as a whole is not extreme right. If anything, they are more diverse on social issues than the traditional right. But we are completely aligned on the issues of liberty, capitalism and the role of government. We are not racist and many of us were proud to see this country elect an African American president - although we were concerned about the substance of his agenda. But you didn't see the uprising during the campaign. It only happened after too many bail outs, the take over of GM and most importantly - the outrageous stimulus plan.

This stimulus plan was quite simply the government class declaring war on the private sector working class. It added a trillion $ of debt that we, our children and grandchildren will have to pay in order to save government jobs. It did nothing to save private sector jobs. So it was a massive grab of wealth from one class in power from the other who was not.

Add the health care disaster and you have a huge, principled public movement. So liberals, if you want to argue about how successful the stimulus plan has been - let's rock. If you want to defend the healthcare mandate that comes without a public option - I am here. But if you want to keep throwing out slanderous, incorrect and ineffective personal attacks on Tea Parties - show up in person on Thursday so we can look you in the eye.

In Liberty,
R

[LMNO]

This reminds me of something that was on the Dan Savage Savage Love podcast today (which is a sex-advice column run by this awesome gay dude).

So, this woman called in, and said, "You always talk about how tolerant you are, but you're always bashing Christians and calling them homophobic, ignorant jerks.  But I'm a sex-positive, pro-gay Christian, and it offends me that you're trashing all of us like that."

To which he replied, "You shouldn't be yelling at me, you should be yelling at all the Right Wing Christians that are giving your faith a bad name!  I can name five conservative christian, anti-sex, anti-gay, pro-abstinence groups off the top of my head who have been yelling and screaming about so-called 'family values', but I can't name a single group of progressive Christians who are kicking and screaming about how the conservatives are misrepresenting their faith.  They're doing more damage to the perception of your religion than I am.  In fact, you should be bashing them even harder than I am!"



In the same way, I've seen plenty of reports saying that there were "a few" ignorant hate-mongers in the Teabaggers, but that "most" of them are diverse and educated.

Well, if that's so, they should be speaking up against the people giving their movement a bad name, don't you think?

[East Coast Hustle]

I hate that I agree with almost all of the quoted post from the facebook page.

Surely that person is an abberation or a liar?

[Requia ☣]

I am less surprised that NONE of the liberals tried to argue against the Tea Party on any of the actual issues. Nothing defending the deficit or debt. Nothing about how wonderful the new healthcare mandate it. Nothing about cap and trade or the bail outs or taking over GM. It seems that they really can't argue on the merits so they are left to a single strategy: Demonize the Tea Partiers personally.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure liberals agree with the teapartiers on much of that, if not always for the same reasons.  The issue really is that the teapartiers are assholes.

[Elder Iptuous]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure liberals agree with the teapartiers on much of that, if not always for the same reasons.  The issue really is that the teapartiers are assholes.

Not having actually been to a tea party gathering, i can only base my assessment on two scources.  There are those people that i know that identify themselves as 'members', and then there's the presentation that the teevee gives, which usually consists of a far away picture of a huge crowd of people, and then some close ups of some people that have some ridiculous getup, or inflamatory sign.  now i'm not saying that there's collusion in the media to smear these people, but if i were one of the photographers or camera men, i would certainly focus on the most sensational people in the crowd that i could find in order to get my work used over the other guy's....

Perhaps i should attend one of these rallies to get an idea of what percentage of them are actually people chanting racist slurs vs. people who are only chanting about the issues mentioned here...

When you went to a rally you found that they were mostly the former?

[Cramulus]

The thing about representative democracy is that we can get a pretty good idea of what these guys stand for by looking at the people they've chosen to represent them. Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman... it's like the all star team of neocon fearmongers.

I would really be curious to hear a less biased account of what goes on at these things. I'm sure that the average tea partier is probably just dissatisfied and has a pretty okay grasp on things. But they aren't the ones speaking to the media.


If Obama is Not Eligible to Serve, He Cannot Issue "Lawful Orders"

[Requia ☣]

I've not been to any teaparty events, but I have seen the CSPAN coverage, (which is a little more level, showing both good and bad) spoken to a few of themm.  I'd say the openly racist ones are in the minority, though its a very vocal minority the rest seem happy to let spout birther nonsense.  I think only one or two speakers at TeaPartyCon went off on the racist stuff, the rest was either anti spending (which apparently only democrats do), attacking the media for being too 'liberal', criticizing democrats for the bailout that the republicans backed almost unanimously, apologists for said republicans, the usual moral majority assholes, libertarians, and a few serious reformers who think they can use the tea party to get the GOP to actually have anything to do with what the GOP claims the GOP is about, also Sarah Palin, though a few of the teapartiers are wising up to the fact that she's as much of an establishment suckup as is humanly possible.

Oh, and the freedomworks assholes, which seem to control every teaparty internet forum I can find.

Though new plan.  I'm gonna see if I can't hunt down a teaparty event for tomorrow and attend, get a first hand look at these guys.

[Elder Iptuous]

I'd like to go to one, if just for a bit tomorrow....

the people that i know personally that identify as tea partiers are pretty varied with only 2 of the 10 that i can think of offhand who buy the beck, rush, bachman, neocon shit.

the rest think that's idiocy.  perhaps i'll find out first hand.
then again, perhaps i'll just see a lot of people 'crashing' the party