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Meet your matter: Electron

Started by Tupac L. Porker, June 17, 2012, 02:17:04 AM

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Tupac L. Porker



I'm hoping all the science is accurate, but if not, what can you do

Nephew Twiddleton

It is accurate as far as I can tell. Except the wink out of existence bit. I don't know that that's possible.
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Quote from: Twiddlegeddon on June 17, 2012, 02:42:37 AM
Except the wink out of existence bit. I don't know that that's possible.

That sounds to me like either a misunderstanding of virtual particles or a misunderstanding of "because we don't know both where the electrons are and where they're going next it seems that electrons pop in and out of existence around the nucleus" as a refutation of "it's like a tiny solar system in there".

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Signor Paesior on June 17, 2012, 05:25:03 AM
Quote from: Twiddlegeddon on June 17, 2012, 02:42:37 AM
Except the wink out of existence bit. I don't know that that's possible.

That sounds to me like either a misunderstanding of virtual particles or a misunderstanding of "because we don't know both where the electrons are and where they're going next it seems that electrons pop in and out of existence around the nucleus" as a refutation of "it's like a tiny solar system in there".

Sounds about right. If they winked out of existence then there would be an overabundance of positive energy and stable molecules wouldn't be able to exist.
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Unless they are sharing time between different universes.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: The Bad Reverend What's-His-Name! on June 17, 2012, 01:35:46 PM
Unless they are sharing time between different universes.

They wouldn't end up there completely then though. Unless it happens so quickly as not to matter, molecules would become unstable, since they're formed by two atoms sharing an electron.
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Electrons 'popping' out are more of an analogy describing the electron field and the location of the electron within that field.

There is an electron field, the electron could be anywhere in that field. If we measure, we find it at point X. If we measure again (in some extremely tiny space of time) its gone from that spot and is somewhere else entirely within the field... just as though it 'popped' out of existence at point X and popped back in at point Y.

Its like the electron is 'everywhere/anywhere' in the field until we measure it, then its in some place, then its 'everywhere/anywhere' again until we measure it again... then its somewhere else.

Of course, that's not a correct analogy either.

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