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Manning trial to set precedent on what "aid to the enemy" means.

Started by Doktor Howl, July 30, 2013, 05:28:24 PM

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I expect illiteracy from the general public, ranging from "Texas" to "Semi-Literate",

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@ CPD...military culture...
I'm sure the military would have been happy to kill him for revealing  possibly illegal activities, and certainly unethical activities, of our current government...

*Mutters something about defending the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic*

Thing is, the military doesn't care.  It's a big stupid beast, with a rulebook for a brain.  There is no "happy" to do ANYTHING.  Just things get done.  Because.

Yep. The military is a bureaucracy. it does what Policy and Rules tell it to do.

Agreed... :x
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I also just realized that the united states has given me- as either a citizen or otherwise legal resident- my own serial number.

Twid
Has a social security number

:? Did you just get one?

No, it's just that I remembered that I have one and that also counts as a form of serial number.

Yeah, that was for a while a source of great paranoia and agitation about social security numbers, especially when they started linking them to your everything. Which has only occurred within my lifetime.
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Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on July 31, 2013, 04:14:47 PM
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Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on July 31, 2013, 06:09:43 AM
I also just realized that the united states has given me- as either a citizen or otherwise legal resident- my own serial number.

Twid
Has a social security number

:? Did you just get one?

No, it's just that I remembered that I have one and that also counts as a form of serial number.

Yeah, that was for a while a source of great paranoia and agitation about social security numbers, especially when they started linking them to your everything. Which has only occurred within my lifetime.

It's something I only really think about when I'm doing my taxes or something of that sort, and even then only for a moment.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/31/us/bradley-manning-verdict.html

QuoteThe government's theory was that providing defense-related information to an entity that published it for the world to see constituted aiding the enemy because the world includes adversaries, like members of Al Qaeda, who could read the documents online.

Alternatively, this could be interpreted that the government is conceding the world and/or truth is the enemy.

Also http://www.salon.com/2013/07/30/manning_verdict_what_you_need_to_know/

QuoteThere is one more significant detail in Lind's ruling today. In addition to aiding the enemy, the one other charge she found Manning innocent of involved leaking a video of a civilian massacre in Garani, Afghanstan. While Manning admitted accessing the video, the government insisted he had leaked it months before Manning admitted to accessing the video (and before forensic evidence showed he had). This claim — one Lind said they did not prove — was key to their claims that Manning had planned to leak to WikiLeaks from the start of his deployment to Iraq.