Prism and Verizon surveillance discussion thread

[Junkenstein]

The article goes to great lengths to show that there is, in fact, absolutely no evidence at all of terrorists using online games to communicate, despite the threat being constantly highlighted in NSA analysis.

Actually managed to read it now. Gods, it's good.

This is perfectly reasonable. You never know when they might start to use it so the only way to be safe is to monitor possible means of communication all the time.

Result? In 5 years time is huge department meetings where people fight for more resources to keep listening to My little Pony chats because they seem iffy.

The thought occurs that if this was used for different purposes, say finding/catching paedophiles, I'd bet a lot of people would support that. Which leads me to speculate that the current infrastructure could easily be turned to that purpose with relative ease and surely great success. I wonder why that's not occurred yet.

[Pæs]

I really like that SecondLife was so full of spies that they had to have a special unit to stop them from spying on themselves.

It's the policeman chasing himself around London all over again, but this time against a backdrop of SecondLife furries.

JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT THAT STORY COULDN'T GET ANY BETTER.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I just think it's awesome that we can't afford food stamps or VA hospitals, but we can pay any number of voyeuristic retards to snoop on furries.  That makes me laugh.  A special kind of laugh.  The kind of good-natured chortle that the "guillotine harpies" used to laugh, back in the French revolution days.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

[Junkenstein]

It's also that time when I remind people to read "The man who was Thursday" again.

[Pæs]

The actual documents are so ridiculous.

http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/889134-games

FICTICIOUS SCENARIO: FPS GAME IS DEVELOPED TO ENCOURAGE TERRORIST GAMEPLAY AND THEN WHEN YOU WIN IT SAYS "CONTINUE THE FIGHT AT www.youcanbeaterrorist.com" AND RECRUITS TERRORISTS.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The actual documents are so ridiculous.

http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/889134-games

FICTICIOUS SCENARIO: FPS GAME IS DEVELOPED TO ENCOURAGE TERRORIST GAMEPLAY AND THEN WHEN YOU WIN IT SAYS "CONTINUE THE FIGHT AT www.youcanbeaterrorist.com" AND RECRUITS TERRORISTS.

Okay.  I am now assuming that everything that's happened since WWII has been a troll.

[Junkenstein]

The actual documents are so ridiculous.

http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/889134-games

FICTICIOUS SCENARIO: FPS GAME IS DEVELOPED TO ENCOURAGE TERRORIST GAMEPLAY AND THEN WHEN YOU WIN IT SAYS "CONTINUE THE FIGHT AT www.youcanbeaterrorist.com" AND RECRUITS TERRORISTS.

Okay.  I am now assuming that everything that's happened since WWII has been a troll.

Everything that's ever happened is a troll. It's the only thing that makes sense.

That doc is fucking hilarious. Start of page 2 "player can communicate non-verbally". There's a dullard running around somewhere looking for the hidden meanings in the teabagging dances of fps. I just know it. I just know that sooner or later he'll find it too.

This is also an interesting alternate explanation to the recent body in a suitcase in the bath thing. Do not miss a raid. EVER.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The actual documents are so ridiculous.

http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/889134-games

FICTICIOUS SCENARIO: FPS GAME IS DEVELOPED TO ENCOURAGE TERRORIST GAMEPLAY AND THEN WHEN YOU WIN IT SAYS "CONTINUE THE FIGHT AT www.youcanbeaterrorist.com" AND RECRUITS TERRORISTS.

Okay.  I am now assuming that everything that's happened since WWII has been a troll.

Everything that's ever happened is a troll. It's the only thing that makes sense.

That doc is fucking hilarious. Start of page 2 "player can communicate non-verbally". There's a dullard running around somewhere looking for the hidden meanings in the teabagging dances of fps. I just know it. I just know that sooner or later he'll find it too.

This is also an interesting alternate explanation to the recent body in a suitcase in the bath thing. Do not miss a raid. EVER.

Law of Fives with broadswords and waterboarding.

I can't fucking stand it.

[Sita]

The actual documents are so ridiculous.

http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/889134-games

FICTICIOUS SCENARIO: FPS GAME IS DEVELOPED TO ENCOURAGE TERRORIST GAMEPLAY AND THEN WHEN YOU WIN IT SAYS "CONTINUE THE FIGHT AT www.youcanbeaterrorist.com" AND RECRUITS TERRORISTS.

Not very fictitious. Isn't that basically what the game the Army put out does?

[Junkenstein]

The actual documents are so ridiculous.

http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/889134-games

FICTICIOUS SCENARIO: FPS GAME IS DEVELOPED TO ENCOURAGE TERRORIST GAMEPLAY AND THEN WHEN YOU WIN IT SAYS "CONTINUE THE FIGHT AT www.youcanbeaterrorist.com" AND RECRUITS TERRORISTS.

Not very fictitious. Isn't that basically what the game the Army put out does?

Probably worth it's own thread if anyone cares. Propaganda games in various forms are a whole big heap of fucking what and horribleness.

And yes, yes it is. But that's OK because US army. Still considerably up from "games" like "ZOG's Nightmare".

If you google, or gods forbid play that, it's your own fucking fault.

[Pæs]

Somewhere there's a Tauren Shaman called Ag3nt J0nes typing /wave and /dance at suspected terrorists, making notes in a tiny journal and occasionally screaming at the screen TELL ME YOUR SECRETS.

[LMNO]

If anyone needs me, I'll be on the secret Pogz forum.

[Cain]

Reminder: some animals intelligence officers are more equal than others:

On June 22 2013, the petition to pardon Edward Snowden surpassed a hundred thousand signatures, and has continued to gather signatures ever since.

That hundred-thousand mark is significant. It represents a promise to the American people.

"If a petition gathers enough online signatures, it will be reviewed by policy experts and you'll receive an official response."  So promised Katelyn Sabochik, Deputy Director of the White House Office of Digital Strategy, when she set up the website called "We the People," the official online petition website of the Obama administration. "We The People" still makes this promise.

Its a startling promise, a heartening one. After all, this is the age in which government agents are listening in on our conversations, tracking our whereabouts and even spying on us as we play video games. In the age of American dissidents being shoved into fenced-in "free speech zones" miles away from our leaders, the potential for the Obama administration to read and respond to the words of us little people is charming, inspiring even. It suggests the promise of an inclusive political future.

173 days ago the petition to pardon Edward Snowden surpassed the hundred thousand signatures required to obtain a response by the Obama administration.

The Obama administration has responded with 173 days of silence.

And now:

The White House has ruled out the idea of an amnesty for fugitive intelligence contractor Edward Snowden.

A top National Security Agency (NSA) official had suggested that a deal could be reached if Mr Snowden stopped leaking documents.

But White House spokesman Jay Carney said Mr Snowden still faced felony charges for leaking classified data.

One senior NSA official > over 100,000 people.

[P3nT4gR4m]

much >

but, yeah, I get your point - it's nice of them to spell it out like that