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Don't get me wrong, I greatly appreciate the fact that you're at least putting effort into sincerely arguing your points. It's an argument I've enjoyed having. It's just that your points are wrong and your reasons for thinking they're right are stupid.

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#16
Bring and Brag / Re: Richter's Spag - Along Workshop
December 31, 2009, 09:33:17 AM
Quote from: Felix on December 31, 2009, 08:36:43 AM
I like the last one.  It gave me an idea for a collapsible flail.

WANT
#17
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Hardcover
December 31, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on December 31, 2009, 09:27:53 AM
Quote from: Felix on December 31, 2009, 08:48:20 AM
I'll be the dick and ask the question.

As a piece of work, is the PD really worth that much?  I paid ten bucks for a copy when I was a kid, and it was stolen from me as is the proper means of PD acquisition.  Maybe I'm just too concerned with the old ways, but I like the old ways.



EITHER:

           Obama redefined the meaning of the word CHANGE. And TRICKY DICK answered the question.

OR:

           I prefer the old gods. It'll cost yer eye. Or a hand if you trust the wolf.

:|
#18
Quote from: singer on December 30, 2009, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Frenulum Pendulum on December 30, 2009, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: singer on December 30, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 30, 2009, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: singer on December 30, 2009, 03:00:45 AM
Quote from: Kai on December 30, 2009, 02:15:26 AM


Bullshit. I, and the other graduate students in my department with research assistantships, are evidence.
But only anecdotal.

That's not anecdotal, that's first hand experience.

Anecdotal is the story about chocolate research you just spun.

If you can't tell the difference, I think 10 pages ago would have been a real fine moment to quit this thread.
And now we have all heard of a poster on an internet board who claims to be a research assistant.  I believe I understand the characteristics of evidentiary offerings well enough for the purposes of this conversation.  The Hershey chocolate story was not evidence of any kind.  I hoped everyone understood that as well.

just so you know, noob, a few of us on this board have known each other for 5 years or more. Kai's scientific credentials are exactly what he says they are.
Just so you know, I have been aware of Kai's scientific career for several years as well. I have been pretty impressed with Kai's education and opinions in the past and I expect I will continue to be so.   I did not (and do not) question his credibility.  However this was not a comment about his credibility.  It was a comment about the factual circumstance of an utterance offered as evidence and how that reflects upon it's indicia of reliability.  Change the factual circumstance, say for example on a witness stand under oath in a courtroom, then his testimony becomes evidence with a greater indicia of reliability.   It was in response to a suggestion that I don't know what "evidence" is.   It was not a character assassination.  I object to your trying to paint it as such.

It read like one.
#19
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 30, 2009, 01:02:26 PM
I just read through this, and I think it's time for a recap:

Rat and singer are trolling each other, the OP and themselves

Roger is trolling them and may in fact kill a motherfucker

Kai is too pissed for trolling and is definitely gonna kill a motherfucker

LMNO is going to kick his own damn ass for not killing motherfuckers earlier on before it became fashionable

Cain is :lulz:ing it up and probably won't kill any motherfuckers right now

Cram will appear soon and vomit blood out of his ass

Magic is what happens when you drink coffee and notice that your cat died of starvation, then say "HEY MY COFFEE DRINKING KILLED THE CAT"

OR: This entire fucking thread is what happens when people can't agree on something that's retarded to start with and it ends up flying all over the place like some kind of enormous whale-fall except instead of whales it's hideous, worm-coated poop and instead of being in the ocean it's right in the middle of a forum generally reserved for cool stuff, not titanic bouts of parasitic incontinence with pinworms the size of cars (we prefer titanic bouts of flaming incontinence accompanied by giant spheres of pure RAAAAGE) and the OP should be ashamed for starting this awful mess because it's definitely, unarguably HIS FAULT (but only because I don't know the scapegoat of the moment, damn it!) and one day he's going to Wiccan Hell for this, where he will get to listen to witch-hatted tards blathering about the great Cthulhu rising up and eating fucking skittles for the GOOD OF NATURE

ETA: NONE OF YOU ARE GETTING BIRTHDAY PRESENTS

ETA2: FUCK YOU

Fixed
#20
Quote from: singer on December 30, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 30, 2009, 01:02:26 PM
I just read through this, and I think it's time for a recap:

Rat and singer are trolling each other, the OP and themselves

Roger is trolling them and may in fact kill a motherfucker

Kai is too pissed for trolling and is definitely gonna kill a motherfucker

LMNO is going to kick his own damn ass for not killing motherfuckers earlier on before it became fashionable

Cain is :lulz:ing it up and probably won't kill any motherfuckers right now

Magic is what happens when you drink coffee and notice that your cat died of starvation, then say "HEY MY COFFEE DRINKING KILLED THE CAT"

OR: This entire fucking thread is what happens when people can't agree on something that's retarded to start with and it ends up flying all over the place like some kind of enormous whale-fall except instead of whales it's hideous, worm-coated poop and instead of being in the ocean it's right in the middle of a forum generally reserved for cool stuff, not titanic bouts of parasitic incontinence with pinworms the size of cars (we prefer titanic bouts of flaming incontinence accompanied by giant spheres of pure RAAAAGE) and the OP should be ashamed for starting this awful mess because it's definitely, unarguably HIS FAULT (but only because I don't know the scapegoat of the moment, damn it!) and one day he's going to Wiccan Hell for this, where he will get to listen to witch-hatted tards blathering about the great Cthulhu rising up and eating fucking skittles for the GOOD OF NATURE

ETA: NONE OF YOU ARE GETTING BIRTHDAY PRESENTS

ETA2: FUCK YOU
Really?  That's trolling?  I don't think I understand the difference between 'trolling' and engaging in a conversation/debate.  Unless my exploration of the various emotional reactions to semantics is trolling, (in which case I apologize, I had no intent to 'troll'... whatever that means), I honestly thought I was just engaging in an interesting (if sometimes irreverent) conversation with some interesting and disparate points of view.  I was actually enjoying the conversation, but I didn't intend for my enjoyment to be at anyone's expense.
Really?  That's debating?  I don't think I understand the difference between 'debating' and engaging in a dick-wagging contest.  Unless your questioning longtime posters, saying hideously stupid shit and changing your tack every three seconds is debating, (in which case I won't apologize, you still were a complete fucking cocktoggle... and you know what that means), I honestly thought I was just observing that you were in a completely uninteresting (and always irreverent) conversation with some uninteresting and retarded points of view.  I was actually enjoying you making an ass of yourself, and I intended for my enjoyment to be at your expense.
#21
Khara, this thread was an abortion at conception

Magic is useful for nothing more than shitty books and not-so-shitty games
#22
I just read through this, and I think it's time for a recap:

Rat and singer are trolling each other, the OP and themselves

Roger is trolling them and may in fact kill a motherfucker

Kai is too pissed for trolling and is definitely gonna kill a motherfucker

LMNO is going to kick his own damn ass for not killing motherfuckers earlier on before it became fashionable

Cain is :lulz:ing it up and probably won't kill any motherfuckers right now

Magic is what happens when you drink coffee and notice that your cat died of starvation, then say "HEY MY COFFEE DRINKING KILLED THE CAT"

OR: This entire fucking thread is what happens when people can't agree on something that's retarded to start with and it ends up flying all over the place like some kind of enormous whale-fall except instead of whales it's hideous, worm-coated poop and instead of being in the ocean it's right in the middle of a forum generally reserved for cool stuff, not titanic bouts of parasitic incontinence with pinworms the size of cars (we prefer titanic bouts of flaming incontinence accompanied by giant spheres of pure RAAAAGE) and the OP should be ashamed for starting this awful mess because it's definitely, unarguably HIS FAULT (but only because I don't know the scapegoat of the moment, damn it!) and one day he's going to Wiccan Hell for this, where he will get to listen to witch-hatted tards blathering about the great Cthulhu rising up and eating fucking skittles for the GOOD OF NATURE

ETA: NONE OF YOU ARE GETTING BIRTHDAY PRESENTS

ETA2: FUCK YOU
#23


The Silent Hill 2 remake done by the WOMP Cabal development studio, despite being critically well received on at least one website, heralded the end of the franchise.
#24
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 25, 2009, 01:00:33 PM
Scene is, like goth and emo, two seperate but related things: a musical style and a fashion style.* Neither of these have a simple definition, or even something you could kind of force them into.

Scene fashion is primarily a mix of 80's fashion (especially glam), an offshoot of rave fashion known as "cyberkid" (a mix of the ever-popular "candy raver" style and cybergoth), and prep fashion. The only connection between scene and emo is the hair, and that's even seperated by a tendency for brightly colored styles. It doesn't really fit neatly in any category. (You could make an argument for it being a sort of neo-glam, but that's the best I got.)

Scene music. Oh boy. Where do I start? Alright... Scene music is, at its core, three genres mixed together. Post-hardcore in the vein of "screamo" (which I refer to as altcore, to distinguish it from the original early-to-mid 90's screamo which sounds NOTHING like it), late 90's alt-rock (especially pop-punk and powerpop) and "rave"** music.

The mixture of the first two by themselves defined emo's music (mostly), and scene pretty much swallowed emo music alive (all scene kids like The Used) and mixed in rave. Big, heaping helpings of rave. I have a theory that it was started by pissed-off ravers after they lost their entire subculture to dubstep. Whatever happened, immediately after this, scene music split into 4 camps. I'll refer to them as "gangsta", "hardcore", "prep" and "traditional".

Gangsta scene is the mixture of scene music with gangsta rap, RnB, more rave (!) and 90's hard rock (better known as nu metal or mallcore), and the infamous crunkcore is a more specific offshoot of this. Hardcore scene went for extreme metal, and singlehandedly invented deathcore. Prep scene completely devoured and replaced the genres of pop punk and powerpop. Traditional scene just kept doing what it was doing. Great examples of each are Hollywood Undead, A Day To Remember, Forever the Sickest Kids and Asking Alexandria, respectively.

What's the point of explaining this? To show you why I can't just answer "what is it?" No one explanation suits all cases, or even a majority of popular cases. Kill Paradise, for example, is scene, and they have no rock in their music at all, or even any alt-rock influence in the vocals. There's even instrumental chiptune artists whose music is scene. (Seriously.) The best you can do is just put it in its own category for now and hope someday it starts making sense.




* Scene fashion and scene music are actually more unconnected than the others. Most scene kids and musicians ignore scene fashion altogether and still call themselves scene.
** Rave is not actually a genre. I refer here to the Holy Trinity of The Rave: vocal trance, happy hardcore, hard house.
*** Yes, I wrote this on Christmas morning. That should tell you how awesome my Christmas was.
#25
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 24, 2009, 07:15:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 24, 2009, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: dimo on December 23, 2009, 10:43:22 PM


Say what you will, but this is pretty hot (the hair, that is. The retardedly huge fake eyelashes are no good). If only there were natural pink-heads.

Quote from: NotPublished on December 23, 2009, 10:52:16 PM
I would say thats Punk




I WILL KILL A MOTHERFUCKER.



:crankey:

I'll help. Unlike you (I'm assuming, anyway), I'm not particularly insulted by the comparison. On the other hand, the ignorance is intolerable.

I badly want to go into a long and detailed history of what brought about scene now, and how it's only connection to punk is the very tenuous and indirect one of pop-punk. (I.e., only by vague association with something related in name only.) But I don't think anyone cares, 'cept me.
#26
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on December 24, 2009, 01:43:30 AM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 24, 2009, 01:35:08 AM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on December 24, 2009, 01:20:30 AM
Quote from: Ratssinis on December 24, 2009, 01:17:58 AM
I want to make video games. I currently have accomplished NOTHING toward this goal except for failing a Digital Animation course at the local Technical Institute and playing lots of video games.

STOP BEING A FUCK UP AND APPLY YOURSELF!

If you can't apply yourself to digital animation try your hand at art/design, marketing or programming. If you can't do any of this, start looking for something else.

I'm actually designing an iPhone game that should be out when I find a goddamned programmer and have my wonderful PD.com helpers finish the stuff they're doing for me. I'm hoping to have it in a playable state by 2010.

If you want any help with the less-concrete parts of game design, Freeky, (game flow, level design, pacing, mechanics design, difficulty balance, etc) just ask me. I can't help with any of the real-world development stuff, though, just what you need to write a good design document and keep the people in charge from ruining everything.

Also, I highly suggest learning to program. I missed out on that shit when I had the chance and now nobody wants to teach me. And finding a goddamn programmer is easily the hardest part of this so far: I've run into two, and both wimped out. Compare to the 5 musicians and 16 (!) artists who were interested, most of whom (again) flaked but THANK GOD FOR PEEDY.

(FTR: you can get very good deals in the game industry if you have "bonus" skills. Architectural design, knowing most common game release languages and screenwriting skills are all highly coveted in the current market. At least two of those would make you invaluable to whatever company you worked for. Nevertheless, I highly suggest you avoid large companies if you go into the field because they have absolutely criminal hours. 100 hour weeks are not uncommon during crunch time, and no matter how valuable you are, you're expendable if you can't work those.)

Consider designing games for Android and WebOS. It's a smaller market and in many cases the apps are easily ported. Android and WebOS are going to be big. Also consider other Linux friendly OSes like Maemo.

I'm porting it to the phones it'll work for (limited to those with touchscreens) and also all PC OSes (yay mouse). If it's successful at all I MIGHT completely redesign it to work on normal phones, but if and only if that happens. Most likely, it won't get much bigger than the most obscure of Atlus games is in America. I might hit a bigger market if I can get it translated and published in Japanworld.
#27
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 24, 2009, 02:11:08 AM
Ah, fair enough. I'm used to people with no sense of humor who will do anything they can to make people look bad if they don't like them. Unfortunately, usually they fail at that too. So, yeah, sorry.

Also, I -really- need to stop going to CoG.
#28
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on December 24, 2009, 01:20:30 AM
Quote from: Ratssinis on December 24, 2009, 01:17:58 AM
I want to make video games. I currently have accomplished NOTHING toward this goal except for failing a Digital Animation course at the local Technical Institute and playing lots of video games.

STOP BEING A FUCK UP AND APPLY YOURSELF!

If you can't apply yourself to digital animation try your hand at art/design, marketing or programming. If you can't do any of this, start looking for something else.

I'm actually designing an iPhone game that should be out when I find a goddamned programmer and have my wonderful PD.com helpers finish the stuff they're doing for me. I'm hoping to have it in a playable state by 2010.

If you want any help with the less-concrete parts of game design, Freeky, (game flow, level design, pacing, mechanics design, difficulty balance, etc) just ask me. I can't help with any of the real-world development stuff, though, just what you need to write a good design document and keep the people in charge from ruining everything.

Also, I highly suggest learning to program. I missed out on that shit when I had the chance and now nobody wants to teach me. And finding a goddamn programmer is easily the hardest part of this so far: I've run into two, and both wimped out. Compare to the 5 musicians and 16 (!) artists who were interested, most of whom (again) flaked but THANK GOD FOR PEEDY.

(FTR: you can get very good deals in the game industry if you have "bonus" skills. Architectural design, knowing most common game release languages and screenwriting skills are all highly coveted in the current market. At least two of those would make you invaluable to whatever company you worked for. Nevertheless, I highly suggest you avoid large companies if you go into the field because they have absolutely criminal hours. 100 hour weeks are not uncommon during crunch time, and no matter how valuable you are, you're expendable if you can't work those.)
#29
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 24, 2009, 01:22:29 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on December 24, 2009, 01:14:09 AM
Quote from: dimo on December 23, 2009, 10:43:22 PM


Say what you will, but this is pretty hot (the hair, that is. The retardedly huge fake eyelashes are no good). If only there were natural pink-heads.

the pink hair is OK, but the fake eyelashes, the stupid color contacts, and the hunks of metal stuck in her face are just wicked fuckin' ugly.

I did say the hair. Fucking eyelashes are hideous. I don't think the lip rings or contacts are bad, though that's certainly because I like scene to begin with.
#30
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 24, 2009, 01:04:23 AM
Quote from: Shrunkenheadspace on December 23, 2009, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 23, 2009, 07:45:05 PM
I'm being tacky because I want to be cool like them.

Sigged.

Someone doesn't understand SARCASM. He also likes cutting things out of context and flaunting them in order to discredit people who like things he doesn't.

TL;DR: someone is a douchebag.