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Started by Junkenstein, November 26, 2013, 11:21:52 PM

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Pope Pixie Pickle

Ah, the horror at tweens in padded bikini tops article next to the sidebar of shame.

I have an extension  that blocks the Mail Online for Chrome. It shows me tea and kittens instead.


Junkenstein

Barely news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626

QuoteThe UN's top human rights official has condemned Israel's military actions in the Gaza Strip, saying that war crimes may have been committed.

Navi Pillay told an emergency debate at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva that Israel's military offensive had not done enough to protect civilians.

QuoteReferring to a 16 July Israeli air strike that killed children playing on a beach in Gaza, Ms Pillay said "the disregard for international humanitarian law and for the right to life was shockingly evident".

She also condemned rocket attacks from Gaza into Israel.

"The principles of distinction and precaution are clearly not being observed during such indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas by Hamas and other armed Palestinian groups," she told the UN Human Rights Council.

Despite her condemnation of Hamas attacks on Israel, Ms Pillay clearly views Israel's actions in Gaza as disproportionate, our correspondent says.

Quote"There seems to be a strong possibility that international law has been violated, in a manner that could amount to war crimes," Ms Pillay said.

However Israel, which claims the UN Human Rights Council is biased, is unlikely to co-operate with any authorised UN investigation, the BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Geneva reports

Colour me amazed. No prizes for guessing what the results of this will be. Clue - More of the same from everyone.

I'd suggest it's not particularly good to be in the club that rejects the UN human rights council. Would you like to know more?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council

QuoteIt was ironic that Israel which claimed to be representing Jews everywhere was campaigning against a Jewish professor who had been nominated for the post of Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. The candidate was the author of 54 books on international law. Palestine doubted that those who had campaigned against him had read that many books. The candidate's nomination was a victory for good sense and human rights, as he was a highly qualified rapporteur.

In short, it puts you in the same league as Syria, Sudan and Ethiopia, world renowned for their equitable treatment of all citizens.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

Israel's getting creepy:

QuoteYossi* wants to make it very clear from the beginning of our discussion that I cannot use his real name. Rotem, his friend who is also translating, explains, "He is afraid. We're all afraid. The fascists are searching for our Facebook profiles, for any information about us on the internet. They are hunting us."

QuoteSend leftists to the gas chambers & please take them there in garbage trucks

QuoteWe may criticize the army and the defense establishment, but only from one direction: Why didn't they let the army win? Let it "do its job," beat the hell out of them, bombard them, crush them even more, conquer even more, cut off the electricity, tighten the siege and ramp up the killing, pain and devastation as much as possible; to exalt the might of the troops, to praise the daring of the pilots. To bring the Arabs back to the Stone Age and Gaza to the Middle Ages. That is allowed. The most moral thing on earth — as much as possible; doubting it is forbidden. One may also cry victim without limit. Ignorance will be crowned as a national goal.

Junkenstein

Fucking hell. We were saying something about Godwin? Is it time? 
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

LMNO

Something something student has become the master something.

Junkenstein

Spot the problems:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28476882

QuoteAt least two Palestinians have been killed and 200 wounded in the West Bank during protests against Israel's campaign in Gaza, officials say.

About 10,000 protesters marched from Ramallah towards East Jerusalem, where they were met by Israeli forces.

At least 15 people died and scores were injured when a UN-run shelter came under fire in Gaza on Thursday.

QuoteThe protest at Qalandia, outside Ramallah, saw Israeli border police use "riot control measures" and live fire. Protesters also used live ammunition, Israel said.

QuoteAt least 20 protesters were arrested after they threw rocks at police, Israeli police said.
It's dangerous to try and arrest someone with a gun, I guess.

QuotePalestinian families were in the school in Beit Hanoun, fleeing Israel's offensive against Hamas militants when they came under attack on Thursday.

It was the fourth time in as many days that a UN facility has been hit.

Correspondents say pools of blood lay on the ground in the courtyard of the school in Beit Hanoun, and there was a large scorch mark where it appeared a shell had hit.

QuoteChris Gunness, a spokesman for the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine refugees (Unrwa), said the Israeli army had been formally given the co-ordinates of the shelter in Beit Hanoun.

According to the UN, more than 118,000 people are now sheltering in UN schools and people are running out of food.



Guess where the new wall is likely to be?

QuoteThe UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (Ocha) says a 3km (1.9 mile) wide strip, encompassing 44% of Gaza, has been designated as a no-go zone by the Israeli military.

I'm calling Israeli settlers living on the land in question within 5 years. Probably sooner as it gives further justification for military actions/reprisals.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Junkenstein

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28920361

QuoteIran says it has shot down an Israeli drone near the Natanz nuclear enrichment site.

The Revolutionary Guards said they fired the missile as the stealth drone approached the area, 300km (185 miles) south of the capital Tehran.

The statement did not say when the drone was brought down, nor how the Guards knew it was Israeli.

Well given that Drones are one of Israels key exports, it's fairly safe to assume most drones are Israeli, in a sense. Owned and operated by Israel? Well, I'd like to think they aren't that stupid and all the attention is on the Gaza situation. I'd like to think that.

QuoteThe statement from the Revolutionary Guards said the drone was on course to fly over the nuclear facility at Natanz.

If so, the fact that the drone managed to get so close raises questions about Iran's detection capabilities, says BBC Persian's Rana Rahimpour

I would take this to imply that this is either not the first such mission, just the first unsuccessful one. The other immediate alternative is that Iran's detection systems are either very good (waited until it's irrefutably in your territory) or very bad (no warning until way inside your borders).

There's more to come from this and the spin from both sides should be amusing.

A final alternate would be that Iran actually got hit by the drone but used it's fully functional time machine to change events.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Junkenstein

Another truce declared, apparently a long term one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28939350

QuoteAt least 2,140 people, most of them civilians, have been killed in Gaza, according to the Palestinian health ministry.

The Israeli authorities say 64 Israeli soldiers have been killed, along with five Israeli civilians and a Thai national.

Here's hoping it lasts till the weekend, at least. Hells, over 6 hours or so would be a substantial improvement.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Junkenstein

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29611875

QuoteIsrael has warned against sending a "troubling message", after UK MPs voted to recognise Palestinian statehood.

The House of Commons backed a motion by 274 votes to 12, although the decision will not decide government policy.

But Israel's government said the vote could undermine the chances of peace by letting Palestinian leaders think they could evade the "tough choices" needed.

Israel unhappy about a decision that shows Israel in negative light. Update on Pope's religion at 11.

QuoteConservative and Liberal Democrat ministers abstained, which is convention on motions proposed by backbench MPs. This is despite recognition of Palestinian statehood being a policy held by the Lib Dems.

Lib-dems ensuring brutal election results for themselves, again.

QuoteMr Duncan, who left the government in last summer's reshuffle, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One: "Having illegal settlements all the time is simply not acceptable and anyone who supports them, I consider to be an extremist."

He said "the starting point in principle is that these settlements are illegal", adding that the UK government "must be prepared to state this principle more strongly".

Daniel Taub, the Israeli ambassador to the UK, said there was "a lot of frustration" there had not been more progress in the peace process.

But he said settlements had never been the barrier to reaching agreement.

"We have a population where there is natural growth," he said, adding: "Why is it out of the question that in a future Palestinian state, that Jews should not be able to live there side-by-side with their Palestinian neighbours?"

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Oh my. That's stunning. Why is it out of the question indeed? Who wouldn't want to live next to religious zealots that are living on land that used to be your farm? Only terrorists would object to such a thing.

I sincerely hope someone starts beating this fucker with "right of return".

Anyway, no real progress beyond a token gesture, but at least there's a gesture. It's been a long while since there was more than that.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Junkenstein

The latest on the 2010 Flotilla killings:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29934002

QuoteThe International Criminal Court's chief prosecutor says she will not take action over Israel's deadly commando raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla in 2010.

Fatou Bensouda said this was despite a "reasonable basis to believe that war crimes... were committed on one of the vessels, the Mavi Marmara".

But she said the ICC had to prioritise war crimes committed on a large scale.

Nine Turkish activists were killed on the ship as it attempted to breach a blockade of the Palestinian territory.

In total there were six ships in the flotilla that was boarded in international waters, about 130km (80 miles) from the Israeli coast on 31 May 2010.

QuoteMs Bensouda said she did not want to minimise "the impact of the alleged crimes on the victims and their families" but she had to be guided by the Rome Statue, the founding treaty of the ICC.

"I have concluded that the potential case(s) likely arising from an investigation into this incident would not be of 'sufficient gravity' to justify further action by the ICC," she said in a statement.

The statement:
http://www.icc-cpi.int/en_menus/icc/press%20and%20media/press%20releases/Pages/otp-statement-06-11-2014.aspx
That section above, again, in full:
QuoteWithout in any way minimizing the impact of the alleged crimes on the victims and their families, I have to be guided by the Rome Statute, in accordance with which, the ICC shall prioritize war crimes committed on a large scale or pursuant to a plan or policy.

How in the living fuck is this not exactly this to a fucking T. Israel has clearly pursued plans and policies to this end for decades. This isn't new. Gaza and the west bank didn't appear from fucking nowhere in 2009.

Quote(Bullshit and waffle, don't blame us)..... The Office of the Prosecutor of the ICC conducts independent and impartial investigations and prosecution of the crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes. The Office of the Prosecutor is currently conducting eight investigations: Uganda; Democratic Republic of the Congo; Darfur, Sudan; Central African Republic; Kenya; Libya; Côte d'Ivoire and Mali. The Office is also conducting preliminary examinations relating to the situations in Afghanistan, Colombia, Georgia, Guinea, Honduras, Iraq, Nigeria and Ukraine.

And there you get the real reason, I'd guess. Shoving Israel into the list with this illustrious company would cause all manner of people to shit themselves blind. You couldn't possibly include a "Westernised democracy" in such a list. It's also quite amusing to note that many of these states share more than a few parallels with Israel too, mainly in their treatment of minority groups.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/15922-rabbis-plan-to-build-temple-on-al-aqsa-ruins

QuoteIn the clearest indication of the growing dangers threatening Al-Aqsa Mosque, in an opinion piece published on Saturday, Haaretz discussed a group of rabbis who met to discuss the scheme for the establishment of the Third Temple on the ruins of the mosque. The newspaper published a photograph of a number of rabbis and engineers studying a map of Al-Aqsa Mosque.

In a piece written by Professor Ronnie Ellenblum entitled "Bells are ringing for the ultra-Orthodox and Secular" [hebrew], the paper discussed the future of Al-Aqsa Mosque which Jews refer to as the Temple Mount.

Although the paper did not identify the rabbis who appeared in the picture, one of them has been identified as Rabbi Yisrael Ariel, president of the Temple Institute, a religious authority that is considered the most enthusiastic about destroying Al-Aqsa Mosque and establishing a temple on its ruins.

The research also involved Rabbi Yehuda Etzion, who was responsible for implementing the Hebron University massacre which left 15 students dead or wounded, and was also responsible for implementing three assassination attempts against elected mayors in the West Bank, one of which injured the then Mayor of Nablus Bassam Shakaa, leaving him permanently disabled.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had pledged to the king of Jordan not to take any steps that would change the status quo at Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Miri Regev, MK for the Likud party led by Netanyahu, announced that she will not allow the continuation of the status quo Al-Aqsa, stressing that the next Knesset will issue a number of laws that will promote Jewish sovereignty over it.

Israeli Channel 10 quoted Regev saying on Thursday that the consecration of Jewish sovereignty in Al-Aqsa Mosque is the most important embodiment of the political, religious and cultural sovereignty of "the Jewish people on their land".

The channel noted that this view is supported by the ministers of economy and housing, Naftali Bennett and Uri Ariel, Chairman of the Foreign Affairs and Defence Committee Ze'ev Elkin, the head of the coalition bloc in parliament, Danny Levin.

Cain

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/let-the-people-of-israel-enter-the-gates-and-kill-arabs-demonstrators-chant-as-tensions-rise-in-a6679906.html

QuoteA group of protesters reportedly screamed "let the people of Israel enter the gates and kill Arabs" during a heated demonstration on Saturday night in Jerusalem after violence erupted ahead of a Jewish holiday.

Youths involved in the demonstration, which started at Zion Square, allegedly massed around Damascus Gate and demanded an Israeli police barricade allow them through to the Old Town and Muslim district.

"Let the people of Israel enter the gates and kill Arabs," Haaretz reported one of the people shouted at officers during the stand-off.

The newspaper claims the "gangs of youths ran amok looking for Arab victims," massing around Zion Square where they confronted a dialogue group, including a Palestinian woman. 

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

UNGH

Can't tell whether fact or satire, because it's completely believable.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

Haaretz, the Israeli daily, also reported on it.  They also published conversations from some of the women in the crowd, who were saying all the Arabs needed to be removed from the army - Christian, Muslim, whoever.