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Hiphop and the Prison Industrial Complex

Started by Cain, February 13, 2014, 12:35:25 PM

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Cain

Hey, can anyone tell me if any for-profit prisons or their chief holding companies/subsidiaries have significant investments in the music industry, in particular with labels responsible for most mainstream hiphop since 1990 or so?

I heard an...interesting rumour...regarding this.  However, the source itself did not inspire confidence, even if the story made a certain amount of sense.  If a link could be confirmed, I'd be willing to look into it further.

LMNO

I'd be interested in learning about this too, but I have no idea how to go about finding out.

The Johnny

You mean Death Row Records? But thats a different thing altogether.
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Cain

Yeah.  I don't really trust that letter, so I'd like some confirming evidence for what he is saying. 

Telarus

Here's an interesting look at it. The author is skeptical, but concedes that it remains possible. He then looks at the actual songs on charts and incarceration rates.

http://www.normschriever.com/2/post/2013/03/dont-believe-the-hype-a-counterpoint-to-the-secret-meeting-that-changed-rap-story.html
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Smells like conspiracy-theory to me. It's gone viral so it's served it's purpose. Ordinary Joe is now asking questions about US prison farming which is a real thing, supported by shady fuckers pulling strings in high places.

Is it credible? Credible enough for me to convince a bunch of folks it's true - that's good enough for me  :evil:

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Cain

Quote from: Telarus on February 13, 2014, 07:24:57 PM
Here's an interesting look at it. The author is skeptical, but concedes that it remains possible. He then looks at the actual songs on charts and incarceration rates.

http://www.normschriever.com/2/post/2013/03/dont-believe-the-hype-a-counterpoint-to-the-secret-meeting-that-changed-rap-story.html

Yeah, he flagged the same problems I had with the theory - the inconsistent use of English, a lot of details given away and the ahistorical timeline.

Still, it did make me wonder if there was anything in the claims, even if his particular story was bullshit.

Telarus

Quote from: Cain on February 13, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
Yeah, he flagged the same problems I had with the theory - the inconsistent use of English, a lot of details given away and the ahistorical timeline.

Still, it did make me wonder if there was anything in the claims, even if his particular story was bullshit.

I agree, really makes you wonder...

Also, to follow-up on P3nT's post... This seems like a meme designed to spread in, for example... Juggalo Facebook groups?
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Posted on fuckbook. See if I get any nibbles... :lulz:

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East Coast Hustle

Gangster rap was around way before 91. And it never dominated the charts, unless you consider shit like Ja Rule or Puffy to be "gangster".

3/10. Which is, apparently, enough these days.
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This is snot-blowingly laughable to anyone with a rudimentary understanding of the history and pervasiveness of systemic racism in America.

Well, except to black people. I expect they find shit like this infuriating. And they should.
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Cain

Well I'm sorry I wanted to see if any bit of validity could be wrung from this.

Obviously I should just rely on first impressions in the future.

East Coast Hustle

Not to say I'd bet against entertainment and private prisons having some financial and corporate intermingling somewhere. But it's a huge paternalizing leap from that to "the negroes are acting up because of the hippity-hop on the radios!".
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Quote from: Cain on February 13, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Well I'm sorry I wanted to see if any bit of validity could be wrung from this.

Obviously I should just rely on first impressions in the future.

Uhh, it's a criticism of the letter, dude, not of you.
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