Ok, so where is it?
What the hell happened to LSD? Why is nobody taking it anymore, and where did it go?
Could this be why US is :cry: ?
Mescaline >Shrooms > LSD
Dude, LSD is soooo passe.
DMT is the drug of the new century.
Yea that shit was made outta mouldy oranges anyway.
i have kids man, why do you have to bring up LSD? you're tempting me to throw it all away!
Ok...
Mescaline: First 2 hours of the trip I'm puking. No thanx. Good visuals, but no.
Shrooms: Good trip. Mellow. I can still drive to and from the show.
DMT & Salvia: Exactly what's wrong with society today. Businessman trips. You're out for 10-15 minutes, then back. "Oh man, but I'm in another friggin' galaxy, like wow"... yeah, but you don't bring anything back. In, out, quick and painless, and you've learned nothing about the reality around you.
A little lesson kiddies... mind expansion is a process that takes time and effort, not just a quick puffs off a pipe between games of Madden or Family Guy episodes.
Now, back to LSD.
Pretty much died after they busted up that silo in 2000. Is it any coincidence things are getting so shitfuck outta hand since? Where's the heads? All I see is pharmkids and 'feine-fiends. The head scene's dead. Pharmies and the net killed the head scene folks. Someone needs to get some 'cid or something else kickass in here phuckin' pronto!
And don't give me that DMT or 5-meo-dmt or ayahuscrap whatever. Trips take more than 15 minutes. That's why they're called "trips". What you kids do is...a jaunt, I guess.
Quote from: erowid
Duration
With lower doses [of ayahuasca], effects last shorter, larger doses last longer, with the range being from 2-6 hours of peak effects with 1-8 hours after of lingering effects, depending on dosage and individual user variation.
15 minutes, huh.
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 05, 2008, 06:55:09 AM
DMT & Salvia: Exactly what's wrong with society today. Businessman trips. You're out for 10-15 minutes, then back. "Oh man, but I'm in another friggin' galaxy, like wow"... yeah, but you don't bring anything back. In, out, quick and painless, and you've learned nothing about the reality around you.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
You've obviously never tried DMT.
Or shrooms by the sound of it
QuoteShrooms: Good trip. Mellow. I can still drive to and from the show.
THREAD DOES NOT DELIVER
I opened this thread and found no LSD at all.
:argh!:
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 05, 2008, 06:55:09 AM
yeah, but you don't bring anything back. In, out, quick and painless, and you've learned nothing about the reality around you.
I have found a flaw in your thought process.
Quote from: Cain on August 05, 2008, 12:07:31 PM
THREAD DOES NOT DELIVER
I opened this thread and found no LSD at all.
:argh!:
lick here:
(http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/forum/leary.jpg)
you may be one of the lucky 25
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 05, 2008, 12:05:52 PM
Or shrooms by the sound of it
QuoteShrooms: Good trip. Mellow. I can still drive to and from the show.
I have agree with the shrooms not having the same effect on you they have always had on me. I love shrooms, and the added bonus of being high and watching the other idiots try to tip cows (which is not as easy as they make it sound apparantly) is such added lulz you cannot control the hilarity!!!
Passe False Slacks ITT
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 05, 2008, 06:55:09 AM
What you kids do is...a jaunt, I guess.
Ironic. That's what all the experienced meditators said to the LSD users.
Quote from: Mangrove on August 05, 2008, 05:25:40 PM
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 05, 2008, 06:55:09 AM
What you kids do is...a jaunt, I guess.
Ironic. That's what all the experienced meditators said to the LSD users.
:mittens:
LSD and shrooms are still around, just not as easy to find as other things.
Plenty going around at the festival we went to last year (along with pretty much anything else you're looking for). Shrooms come floating around sometimes. Some acid up at a concert at the beach the other week. Was weak, but free.
Salvia just makes my head go :asplode: then goes away shortly after. It's something to do occassionally, I suppose, but a lot more fun to watch other people do it.
Someone needs to explain Salvia to me. Last thing I knew it was sage. People are getting high on sage?
You can get high on nutmeg too. But not by snorting it.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 05, 2008, 07:34:17 PM
You can get high on nutmeg too. But not by snorting it.
Is that a rumor or have you tried it? OUCH!
Quote from: Evil Bitch For Hire on August 05, 2008, 07:27:01 PM
Someone needs to explain Salvia to me. Last thing I knew it was sage. People are getting high on sage?
Far as I know, it's only Salvia Divinorum that has the psychedelic properties.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml
Hey, people will get high on anything they can. It's a pretty intense, sometimes a bit frightening, trip (or jaunt, if you will) that as said, last about 15 minutes or so, with a bit of a high for a while after once you come back to your senses.
Quote from: Evil Bitch For Hire on August 05, 2008, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 05, 2008, 07:34:17 PM
You can get high on nutmeg too. But not by snorting it.
Is that a rumor or have you tried it? OUCH!
No, in my position I hear about all of the latest fads and tricks. (Jenkem anyone?)
It's also in the Anarchist Cookbook. But from what I've heard if you make a tea out of it, from its pure form, it has some hallucinogenic properties. But no, I've not tried it.
I think I will stick with the "green" way to get high. Or else drink myself into a stupor!
Nutmeg is an oldskoooooool recreational drug. Like back in pilgrim times. Connecticut used to be known as The Nutmeg State. Presumably because most of its residents were perpetually in the nutmeg state.
Overdosing on Nutmeg causes a state called "Nutmeg psychosis", an uncomfortable and disorienting state which (from what I've read) leaves you uninterested in doing nutmeg ever again.
In other news, I was at some family function with my girlfriend a while ago, and her uncle teaches breath meditation exercises. We spent the better part of 40 minutes lying on our backs and hyperventilating (with guidance), resulting in an incredibly relaxed state and a delightful body high. He teaches weekend long workshops where you do this in combonation with LSD, and apparently relive your birth, delve into ancestral memory, that sort of "higher circuit" hoohah. I'm skeptical about that part, but the exercise totally worked. For about 20 minutes afterwards I still felt very light headed and "high".
oh snap that's holotropic breath work! That really works?
yes - to some extent
it takes a bit of effort to maintain the high,
and I'm not sure that anything is going on other than getting a lot of oxygen in your bloodstream,
but yeah - it definitely was an altered state.
The trick seemed to be in breathing in twice, then breathing out once. Then repeat - faster than your normally breathe. keep doing this for 30 minutes. It was a fairly interesting experience, and one that I'm curious to explore further.
I have been meaning to look into that further too, ever since I read Holotropic Mind. It's really cool that your girlfriend's uncle actually teaches it! For some reason I always pictured people that were into that sort of thing as existing in some strange and far off place where sensory deprivation tanks were in everyone's living room and copious amounts of Ketamine were freely injected... and people talked to dolphins! I'm serious I had a morning glory/DXM trip several years ago and had this vision.
Perhaps it was a vision of mankind's brilliant future, but more likely I had been reading too much damn hippy books! :argh!:
Quote from: Raphaella VonMercer on August 05, 2008, 08:16:47 PM
I'm serious I had a morning glory/DXM trip several years ago and had this vision.
Out of curiousity, how was the morning glory trip? I know that buying seeds out of a store and eating them can lead to a wonderful adventure of horrible vomiting, but how was your experience with it?
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on August 05, 2008, 08:48:24 PM
Quote from: Raphaella VonMercer on August 05, 2008, 08:16:47 PM
I'm serious I had a morning glory/DXM trip several years ago and had this vision.
Out of curiousity, how was the morning glory trip? I know that buying seeds out of a store and eating them can lead to a wonderful adventure of horrible vomiting, but how was your experience with it?
my morning glory experiences worked like this:
Trip 1: nothing happens
Trip 2: nothing happens
Trip 3: genuine tripping for about 10 minutes
Trip 4: stomach ache
Trip 5: stomach ache
gave up at that point
Well we grew the plant and chomped on the pods! Taste like green beans too. But before that we did buy the seeds from the store and then we did something to them to make them less able to induce vomiting. I cant really remember what it was, soaking in 151? Or crushing them up in a pepper mill and soaking in water? Something like that. But the trip was seriously intense. I had also been reading hitchhikers guide at the time and I clearly remember being taken on the heart of gold and dropped off to hang out with a mattress-like creature called Zim. Then to a place like a weird maze?? Inside-out house with Lilly?? It was damn strange.
I have also witnessed attempts to get high on nutmeg. Whole nutmegs were bought as well as ground and some empty caps. Upon further experimentation it was concluded that one could not use the whole nutmegs and that ground nutmeg clumps and floats in most liquids making it useless to attempt to dissolve it into a beverage. Once more MILK should not be used for this purpose. The caps were discarded then as the experimenters were by now really sick of nutmeg.
oh shit I almost forgot this one too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_baby_woodrose we had been using the morning glories for a while and then Tim ordered these things from the internet! They worked great! Much better than eating a shit load of morning glory pods/seeds. You only need to eat a few of these woodrose seeds, and they work very well.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 05, 2008, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: Evil Bitch For Hire on August 05, 2008, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 05, 2008, 07:34:17 PM
You can get high on nutmeg too. But not by snorting it.
Is that a rumor or have you tried it? OUCH!
No, in my position I hear about all of the latest fads and tricks. (Jenkem anyone?)
It's also in the Anarchist Cookbook. But from what I've heard if you make a tea out of it, from its pure form, it has some hallucinogenic properties. But no, I've not tried it.
Nothing in the Anarchist cookbook is ever worth listening to, ever.
Quote from: Cain on August 05, 2008, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 05, 2008, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: Evil Bitch For Hire on August 05, 2008, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 05, 2008, 07:34:17 PM
You can get high on nutmeg too. But not by snorting it.
Is that a rumor or have you tried it? OUCH!
No, in my position I hear about all of the latest fads and tricks. (Jenkem anyone?)
It's also in the Anarchist Cookbook. But from what I've heard if you make a tea out of it, from its pure form, it has some hallucinogenic properties. But no, I've not tried it.
Nothing in the Anarchist cookbook is ever worth listening to, ever.
This is very correct. Nutmeg, while a psychoactive drug, will send you on a 3 day deleriant trip that very few people come back from feeling good about what they just did with themselves. I only attempted it once, and ended up with a threshold "whoah" sort of feeling and my short term memory was severely messed with. And the anarchist cookbook also spouts bullshit like saying banana peels contains some crazy psychedelic called "bananadine".
As far as "tripping balls off of plants you totally wouldn't have thought were psychedelic" goes, I've had some success with coleus blumei (yes, the plant in lots of backyards). Make a quid with some leaves and chew like crazy, holding in the juices as long as you can stand, and you get a mild, dreamy trip. The Mazatec, the people who started using s. divinorum for tripping, used it a bit. The only problem with it is that there's a shitload of very similar looking varieties of coleus, they're crossbred a lot with each other (as all ornamental plants are), and there's only one that will do anything psychoactive.
Smokin Banana Peels sounds like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVkD0RKAjt8
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 05, 2008, 06:55:09 AM
DMT & Salvia: Exactly what's wrong with society today. Businessman trips. You're out for 10-15 minutes, then back. "Oh man, but I'm in another friggin' galaxy, like wow"... yeah, but you don't bring anything back. In, out, quick and painless, and you've learned nothing about the reality around you.
Ur doin it wrong.
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 05, 2008, 01:06:30 AM
Ok, so where is it?
What the hell happened to LSD? Why is nobody taking it anymore, and where did it go?
Could this be why US is :cry: ?
I don't really do drugs but I would assume that LSD is not popular because it has long lasting and sometimes very serious effects.
LSD is the crack-cocaine of hallucinogens. There's a reason it's cheap.
if by "long lasting" you mean 8-12 hours, yeah
Based on the research I did back when I was thinking about tripping on acid, it was more like the rest of your life including flashbacks, mental impairments and birth defects in your offspring.
If you want to argue about this, I don't really care enough about the subject to argue about it. The research I did could've been flawed but it seemed credible enough to me.
Quote from: ten ton mantis on August 06, 2008, 02:05:21 AM
Based on the research I did back when I was thinking about tripping on acid, it was more like the rest of your life including flashbacks, mental impairments and birth defects in your offspring.
If you want to argue about this, I don't really care enough about the subject to argue about it. The research I did could've been flawed but it seemed credible enough to me.
I expected a little more from you TTM. The flashbacks, mental impairments, and birth defects are all narc talking points that have been refuted many many times.
Here's someone who researched the research:
http://www.maps.org/research/abrahart.html#chp1
As I understand it, those who suffer problems from the use of LSD are those who have underlying mental problems in the first place, and do not use it as part of a structured therapy routine with professional and experienced practitioners.
^
Yeah, I'd feel better if other people like you jumped in here. I'm a perma-noob lurk-turd, so I feel awkward when I have to set somebody like Mantis straight.
Mantis is cool, and you have links and stuff so I'm sure he wont mind.
But yes, its hard to say since we have to work with stats from the 60s or among habitual drug users (neither of which are very reliable) but it does seem to be the case that LSD is not dangerous unless you were going to have a psychotic break anyway. All LSD does is replicate how the brain works with a few of the buffers down anyway, it makes sense that problems would be deeper-seated.
Richter and Cram might know more, I know both of them are pretty knowledgeable about psychology.
speaking as a person who at one time had a very long and intense affair with LSD, i can say that the "flashbacks" are much exaggerated. they happen, but it isn't like falling into a random 8-hour trip all over again. also, i'm pretty sure neither of my children were born with any defects, physical or otherwise. as for long-term "effects," i think what they mean is that by taking LSD repeatedly and with the intent to expand your perception, you have a higher risk of not falling for their bullshit all the time, which is a problem, but not for the user.
There is a massive problem with silent data here. Because, lets be honest, the only time an LSD user is likely to show up on the mental health services radar is because they are having problems coping. People who dont have problems with LSD, aren't counted, because taking LSD is illegal and there is no way to quantify the overall population.
sometimes they also show up because they were picked up at the local post office overturning trash cans and setting garbage on fire.
just saying.
I did a needs assessment on substance abuse for one of the counties here in Maine. Compared to other drugs LSD is hardly a blip on the radar in that county and in the State, in terms of people being admitted for treatment or being hospitalized. However, I don't doubt what TTM says. Perhaps it isn't on any grand scale or anything but there will always be some who have long lasting affects from drug abuse. Individual chemistries are individual. It may only be a small percentage that have that experience with LSD but I think it's hard to rule it out completely.
i'm sure it happens, but its occurrence is probably lower than people who have severe/fatal reactions to legal prescription medication.
Quote from: vexati0n on August 06, 2008, 01:57:06 PM
i'm sure it happens, but its occurrence is probably lower than people who have severe/fatal reactions to legal prescription medication.
No argument there at all. Rx drug abuse is on the rise everywhere.
If you're fucked in the head, taking a chemical that has a tendency to minimize perceptive filters and maximize neural connections* in an unsuprevised manner seems to be really, really risky.
*as one theory goes.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on August 05, 2008, 08:53:18 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on August 05, 2008, 08:48:24 PM
Quote from: Raphaella VonMercer on August 05, 2008, 08:16:47 PM
I'm serious I had a morning glory/DXM trip several years ago and had this vision.
Out of curiousity, how was the morning glory trip? I know that buying seeds out of a store and eating them can lead to a wonderful adventure of horrible vomiting, but how was your experience with it?
my morning glory experiences worked like this:
Trip 1: nothing happens
Trip 2: nothing happens
Trip 3: genuine tripping for about 10 minutes
Trip 4: stomach ache
Trip 5: stomach ache
gave up at that point
Hawaiian baby woodrose is the MG seed you desire...
All the others are weak and will just give you stomache aches and maybe a headspin...
OK, I had to skim alot of this...
To all the nay-sayers of hallucinogens and such...
You're all fucking noobs.
Seriously, I don't care if you don't do drugs, but seriously, don't talk about drugs as if you know what they do and how they affect you if you don't do them.
Or don't do them as often as I do. (Or used to do...)
Having done uncountable amounts of hallucinogens, I can vouch that I'm very pissed off that I never get flashbacks, because if that were the case, I would be happy that I'd be getting free trips... alas, I must pay for the privilege if I want to trip...
People who get messed up on drugs are people who already are messed up anyway, or are not prepared for the intensity of drugs, or aren't in a good environment with people they trust...
I've never had a bad trip, I've had some lousy trips, but they aren't exactly experiences that put me off wanting to do it again, or have messed me up any more then I already am...
But I'm not advocating drug use... not at all.
Not everyone should do drugs... I totally agree with that.
It's the idiots that don't know how to do them responsibly and maturely that end up fucking it up for everyone else IMO.
Everyone that I have had the privilege of introducing drugs to, have always come out of it well, because I know how to look after them, and I know whats going on in their heads, so even if it gets to a point for them where they get uncomfortable and start to freak out, its easy enough for me to bring them to a mental state where they learn to embrace whats happening instead of trying to fight it.
IMPO, one of the things that always fucks up people is when their ego starts to dissolve and they try and fight it... this is one of the worst things you can do and is a recipe for "bad trips".
I could write an essay on this shit... but I've just gotten back from working for 14 hours and I'm fucking tired as fuck, but reading this thread, I'm compelled to put my brief $0.02 in.
I'm sorry... did we need to post our drug resume before posting in this thread?
LMNO:
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Pot
LSD
PCP
Cocaine
Crack
Prescription opiates
Salvia
Amphetamines
Ecstacy
Morning Glory Seeds
Nutmeg
NOW can I post in this thread, O Mighty Spag?
Quote from: LMNO on August 06, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
I'm sorry... did we need to post our drug resume before posting in this thread?
LMNO:
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Pot
LSD
PCP
Cocaine
Crack
Prescription opiates
Salvia
Amphetamines
Ecstacy
Morning Glory Seeds
Nutmeg
NOW can I post in this thread, O Mighty Spag?
I didn't take notice of who said what, just that there were some stupid things being said.
That said, LMNO, say what you like, I'm not going to argue, I don't think as far as I recall you saying anything stupid, but I can't be fucked reading back yet to be sure.
Quote from: Lysergic on August 06, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 06, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
I'm sorry... did we need to post our drug resume before posting in this thread?
LMNO:
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Pot
LSD
PCP
Cocaine
Crack
Prescription opiates
Salvia
Amphetamines
Ecstacy
Morning Glory Seeds
Nutmeg
NOW can I post in this thread, O Mighty Spag?
I didn't take notice of who said what, just that there were some stupid things being said.
That said, LMNO, say what you like, I'm not going to argue, I don't think as far as I recall you saying anything stupid, but I can't be fucked reading back yet to be sure.
Sniping for arguments, Napalm for trolling. In short, not naming names will usually cause hackles to be raised, so its better to leave people in no doubt as who you are referring to, even if you don't explicitly name them.
Quote from: Lysergic on August 06, 2008, 02:55:50 PM
Seriously, I don't care if you don't do drugs, but seriously, don't talk about drugs as if you know what they do and how they affect you if you don't do them.
Sorry, it's how I make my living. And I get my information from research and from talking to current and recovering drug addicts. While I've not had the experiences myself, I can assure you, the information I gather is from reliable and experienced sources.
Quote from: ten ton mantis on August 06, 2008, 01:39:44 AM
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 05, 2008, 01:06:30 AM
Ok, so where is it?
What the hell happened to LSD? Why is nobody taking it anymore, and where did it go?
Could this be why US is :cry: ?
I don't really do drugs but I would assume that LSD is not popular because it has long lasting and sometimes very serious effects.
LSD is the crack-cocaine of hallucinogens. There's a reason it's cheap.
Ok, I think you're the spag saying stupid shit. At least some of it.
LSD ain't fucking cheap, let me tell you. Especially for the decent stuff these days.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 06, 2008, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on August 06, 2008, 02:55:50 PM
Seriously, I don't care if you don't do drugs, but seriously, don't talk about drugs as if you know what they do and how they affect you if you don't do them.
Sorry, it's how I make my living. And I get my information from research and from talking to current and recovering drug addicts. While I've not had the experiences myself, I can assure you, the information I gather is from reliable and experienced sources.
Ok, I'm going to have to read back again and see what you said before I say anything.
But, from what I'm assuming so far, your reliable and experienced sources are the type of morons that I rant about ruining drugs for everyone else that knows how to handle them.
Incidentally, how much is a tab of blotter these days?
The good stuff I remember taking was gorby, snowmen, and the recycling symbol, and was about $5 a tab.
Quote from: LMNO on August 06, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
Incidentally, how much is a tab of blotter these days?
The good stuff I remember taking was gorby, snowmen, and the recycling symbol, and was about $5 a tab.
Ah, well, first, consider that US vs AUS conversion thing.
Secondly, the price varies depending on your sources.
LSD isn't as cheap as it used to be say, 20 years ago, I'd estimate its gone up about 3-4x the price, and at that, you don't get stuff as good as they used to make it, according to some older trippers I know.
The average price in australia for a decent hit of acid is about $25 these days, but I personally wouldn't pay any more then that, unless it was guaranteed the acid would seriously mess me up.
Quote from: Lysergic on August 06, 2008, 02:55:50 PM
OK, I had to skim alot of this...
To all the nay-sayers of hallucinogens and such...
You're all fucking noobs.
[etc...
...dicktackular nonsense
...several paragraphs of run on sentences]
I could write an essay on this shit... 1but I've just gotten back from working for 14 hours and I'm fucking tired as fuck2, but reading this thread, I'm compelled to put my brief3 $0.024 in.
1) No, I don't think you can.
2) Evidently, not tired enough
3) Brief? My ass.
4) *sigh* inflation...
Holy crap. $25?
LMNO
-would rather get a decent bordeaux.
Quote from: ten ton mantis on August 06, 2008, 02:05:21 AM
Based on the research I did back when I was thinking about tripping on acid, it was more like the rest of your life including flashbacks, mental impairments and birth defects in your offspring.
If you want to argue about this, I don't really care enough about the subject to argue about it. The research I did could've been flawed but it seemed credible enough to me.
Yes, your research is VERY flawed, and is about as credible as Fox News, who would be the very people who WOULD be spreading such information.
I'm not arguing, I'm just telling you, you're wrong.
Quote from: LMNO on August 06, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
The good stuff I remember taking was gorby, snowmen, and the recycling symbol, and was about $5 a tab.
i would be
really surprised if the LSD blotters/tabs would have the same designs on the other side of the world.
hell, here you don't even always get the same kind of hash, if you buy the same name at different coffeeshops in the same town. (which is kinda stupid, IMO, but apparently the coffeeshops like to make up their names).
Quote from: triple zero on August 06, 2008, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 06, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
The good stuff I remember taking was gorby, snowmen, and the recycling symbol, and was about $5 a tab.
i would be really surprised if the LSD blotters/tabs would have the same designs on the other side of the world.
hell, here you don't even always get the same kind of hash, if you buy the same name at different coffeeshops in the same town. (which is kinda stupid, IMO, but apparently the coffeeshops like to make up their names).
Yeah, I forget sometimes that Lsy is a ferriner.
Although the Gorby got a bit of attention when it came out, so I figured it might be known wider than just the US:
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v14n1-html/lsd_blotter_art.html
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 06, 2008, 03:19:39 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on August 06, 2008, 02:55:50 PM
OK, I had to skim alot of this...
To all the nay-sayers of hallucinogens and such...
You're all fucking noobs.
[etc...
...dicktackular nonsense
...several paragraphs of run on sentences]
I could write an essay on this shit... 1but I've just gotten back from working for 14 hours and I'm fucking tired as fuck2, but reading this thread, I'm compelled to put my brief3 $0.024 in.
1) No, I don't think you can.
2) Evidently, not tired enough
3) Brief? My ass.
4) *sigh* inflation...
1) Is that a challenge?
2)When I hear stupid shit said about drugs, I'm compelled to speak, I don't like mis-information going around.
3)Yes, brief, I only briefly touched upon a few outline points of relevence, I have so much more to say.
4)Look at my fucking name.
5)Yes, I know that wasn't relevant to your fourth point.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 06, 2008, 01:49:35 PM
I did a needs assessment on substance abuse for one of the counties here in Maine. Compared to other drugs LSD is hardly a blip on the radar in that county and in the State, in terms of people being admitted for treatment or being hospitalized. However, I don't doubt what TTM says. Perhaps it isn't on any grand scale or anything but there will always be some who have long lasting affects from drug abuse. Individual chemistries are individual. It may only be a small percentage that have that experience with LSD but I think it's hard to rule it out completely.
Ok, if this was what you're arguing, then it's understandable, and I know where you're coming from.
And I can see, you only really see one side of the coin.
Chaos my friend, has two sides, both contradict and both are true, as I'm sure you well know.
I'll agree on one thing, individual chemistries are individual.
Everyone is different.
Once again though, I do point out, I don't recommend drugs to everyone.
In fact, I don't recommend anyone take drugs.
Give them all to me instead, I'll make sure they go to good use and won't cause anyone trouble.
HALLUCINATIONS
(http://robcubbon.com/images/jimi-hendrix-psychedelic-pop-art.jpg)
SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS
Quote from: LMNO on August 06, 2008, 03:20:00 PM
Holy crap. $25?
LMNO
-would rather get a decent bordeaux.
That's why these days, acid is only a once every 6 or so months thing for me.
Though, fucked if I pay $25 for a tab, my sources get them to me for $15 usually.
And BTW, with everything Cain has said, I'm inclined to agree with, if not at least respect what he's saying because he actually seems to have a fucking clue.
Bannadine can get you high, and huffing Raid is perfectly safe.
True story.
Quote from: Cain on August 06, 2008, 03:43:34 PM
Bannadine can get you high, and huffing Raid is perfectly safe.
True story.
And Jenkem is a perfectly natural high that's safe, cheap and easy to make, and is guaranteed to make you the most popular person at a party.
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 06, 2008, 03:22:52 AM
Quote from: ten ton mantis on August 06, 2008, 02:05:21 AM
Based on the research I did back when I was thinking about tripping on acid, it was more like the rest of your life including flashbacks, mental impairments and birth defects in your offspring.
If you want to argue about this, I don't really care enough about the subject to argue about it. The research I did could've been flawed but it seemed credible enough to me.
I expected a little more from you TTM. The flashbacks, mental impairments, and birth defects are all narc talking points that have been refuted many many times.
Here's someone who researched the research:
http://www.maps.org/research/abrahart.html#chp1
Eh, like I said before I don't really care. It's still a felony to have here and I don't feel like risking prison just so I can trip for a few hours. I tried it when I was younger and it wasn't all that impressive.
Ok, now before I say anything else from now on, or anyone tries to argue with me, lets make known a few things about me, and where I'm coming from, and of what credentials I have to be so adamant and holier-then-thou about all this.
Firstly, my drug resume- (And of course, I'm going to list "exotic" drugs, not your everyday drugs that all the cabbages are addicted to, such as caffeine, booze, nicotine and sugar. (And YES, sugar IS a drug, before you decide to say anything stupid))
Marijuana (In all it's various forms, joints, bongs, hash, hash oil, homegrown, hydroponic, cookie, cake...)
Amphetamines (Speed)
Dexamphetamines (Speed made by the government for kids with too much energy)
Methamphetamines (Ice, or shabushka depending where you are from
Methyldioxymethamphetamine (Ecstacy)
Methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA, a "Mellower" version of ecstasy thats less widely known about)
Psilocybin (Magic Mushrooms)
Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LSD, or "Acid", my name sake :D )
2C - B (Another lesser known "Legal ecstacy" that's not legal anymore)
Mescaline (Peyote, one of TGRR's favourites)
Nitrous Oxide (Laughing Gas, a favourate of dentists and baristas who try the "whippets")
Opium (Although, mind you, not it's stupidly powerful brother, Heroin)
Codeine (Opiate)
Hydrocodone (Vicodin)
diazepam (Valium)
Lysergic acid amide (Morning glory seeds)
Salvinorin A, of the Salvia divinorum plant
Dimethyltryptamine (DMT :fap:)
Benzoylmethyl ecgonine (Cocaine, Americas choice cavity rotter)
...
Ok, those are the main ones I can remember off the top of my head... and no, I did not have to search the scientific names of those chemicals, I'm actually *that* familiar with them.
I suppose, I would like to point out, there are drugs I *have* not tried, and have no intention of trying, such as
Gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid (GHB, or as the media stupidly calls it, "Grevious bodily harm")
diacetylmorphine hydrochloride (Heroin)
and of course, Jenkem. (Butt-hash :lulz:)
but, I don't see them as "Evil" drugs, as I know, some people can use it on a regular basis and don't seem to develop problems, though, most people that try it usually have their lives ruined by it, and by that, I personally keep away from it and hope that people I care about do to, because it just doesn't seem worth it.
Now, mind you, I GREW UP in the Heroin central of Melbourne, and I've been exposed to it all my life, and have it offered to me on the street, there is no temptation for me.
Now, I've been taking drugs recreationally from 14 years of age. Yes, I know, I started young, and this isn't something I'm proud of, but it is a FACT.
What I *AM* proud of though, is that I've never bowed to peer pressure, I've never taken a drug without first knowing what it is, and doing ALOT of research on it.
And I get my information from many sources, and make sure that the drug I'm getting IS the drug I'm told it is.
When people ask me about drugs, which happens frequently, I make sure to tell them everything in as much as an un-biased way as possible, the facts as I understand them, with all the positive and negatives made crystal clear, I don't sugar coat anything, I'm not trying to impress anyone or get anyone to take drugs, I'm trying to inform people of the *reality* of drugs, as I understand it.
What I absolutely *hate* is when I hear people talk about drugs like certain drugs are the best drugs in the world and are absolutely safe while other drugs are dirty, evil, un-natural drugs that will completely change who you are and give you permanent brain damage and that anyone that uses them is to be avoided like the plague.
ALL drugs have positive and negative effects.
Different drugs work differently for different people.
There are no guarantees when taking any drug, as to its safeness or it's danger, if it will work or if it does what you're told its supposed to do.
What you CAN know is, the general effects of the drug amongst the general population, and what to do when bad things happen on drugs, and how to prepare yourself for a drug trip, and how to do a drug as safely as possible given a situation.
Knowledge is power.
Treat drugs with respect, and they can be quite enjoyable, with the negative effects not being much a concern, and you can even learn something about yourself and the world if you're lucky.
On the flip side, if you're too cool for school, and think that you can impress your friends by taking 5 different drugs that you've never even heard of on a dare, then yeah, odds are, you will end up fucked, bad shit will happen, permanent damage could occur and if you survive, you'll become one of those 'born-again' ex-drug taking morons who will make it their personal mission to "save" the population from making "the same mistake" you made by telling everyone that drugs are bad and they ruin lives, or that certain drugs are bad but others are ok...
and it's those people that you get your information on drugs from, from the sounds of what some of you say.
Now, I'm NOT a doctor. I didn't even finish highschool.
But, I *am* studying to be a psychologist, and I do know a fair bit about the way our minds work too.
I do have a lot of information on drugs, and I do my research, and I do it properly, and get my information from many sources.
I also know many scientists, researches, doctors and chemistry students.
My information network is wide and varied, and my information is first hand and straight from the source of people that would know the most about these things.
Now, with all this in mind, let me make it clear: I take drugs very seriously, because there is a lot of mis-information floating around out there, and I'm sick of all the bullshit going around, because, the more of it that's out there, the more people do stupid things and ruin what could be a good and useful thing for everyone.
I see drugs as a tool, and like all tools, they have the potential for good and bad, just like a knife, just like a gun, just like cars, just like the government, just like nuclear energy.
And, like all tools, the best way to use them isn't through ignorance, it's through knowledge.
Any questions?
What is your name?
What is your Quest?
What is your favourite colour?
:argh!:
ANAL?
Quote from: Raphaella VonMercer on August 05, 2008, 09:06:40 PM
Well we grew the plant and chomped on the pods! Taste like green beans too. But before that we did buy the seeds from the store and then we did something to them to make them less able to induce vomiting. I cant really remember what it was, soaking in 151? Or crushing them up in a pepper mill and soaking in water? Something like that. But the trip was seriously intense. I had also been reading hitchhikers guide at the time and I clearly remember being taken on the heart of gold and dropped off to hang out with a mattress-like creature called Zim. Then to a place like a weird maze?? Inside-out house with Lilly?? It was damn strange.
hmmm, interesting to know. I currently have several plants growing on our balcony. Grown for the dual purpose of prettiness and experimentation. I gotta transfer them to a bigger pot though when I get home (if it stops raining! :argh!:) When do they typically begin to drop their seeds? Lazy question, yeah, since I'm going to be doing more research when I get the chance.
Quote from: Raphaella VonMercer on August 05, 2008, 09:13:08 PM
oh shit I almost forgot this one too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_baby_woodrose we had been using the morning glories for a while and then Tim ordered these things from the internet! They worked great! Much better than eating a shit load of morning glory pods/seeds. You only need to eat a few of these woodrose seeds, and they work very well.
Hm. Never heard of these before, at least not to any length if I have, though the same sounds familiar. I'll look up more on this when I get the chance.
Thanks!
Quote from: Lysergic on August 06, 2008, 03:32:44 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 06, 2008, 03:20:00 PM
Holy crap. $25?
LMNO
-would rather get a decent bordeaux.
That's why these days, acid is only a once every 6 or so months thing for me.
Though, fucked if I pay $25 for a tab, my sources get them to me for $15 usually.
At the festival we went to, I think we paid $10 a tab. Course, prices are different there and all...coulda gotten a free bag of shrooms when we first came in. Haven't really seen it around much otherwise. My boyfriend' brother's friend got some at the Badfish concert we went to. Hope he didn't pay much though, cuz it was pretty weak, IMO.
I agree with your and Cain's opinions on the subject of underlying psychological affects. And at least trying to be smart about it if you're going to do drugs....unlike my friend who took E everynight for a weak straight...and wondered why she felt so awful afterwards.
Oh fuck, you got me there...
:cry:
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on August 06, 2008, 05:46:26 PM
Quote from: Raphaella VonMercer on August 05, 2008, 09:06:40 PM
Well we grew the plant and chomped on the pods! Taste like green beans too. But before that we did buy the seeds from the store and then we did something to them to make them less able to induce vomiting. I cant really remember what it was, soaking in 151? Or crushing them up in a pepper mill and soaking in water? Something like that. But the trip was seriously intense. I had also been reading hitchhikers guide at the time and I clearly remember being taken on the heart of gold and dropped off to hang out with a mattress-like creature called Zim. Then to a place like a weird maze?? Inside-out house with Lilly?? It was damn strange.
hmmm, interesting to know. I currently have several plants growing on our balcony. Grown for the dual purpose of prettiness and experimentation. I gotta transfer them to a bigger pot though when I get home (if it stops raining! :argh!:) When do they typically begin to drop their seeds? Lazy question, yeah, since I'm going to be doing more research when I get the chance.
I'm not sure about when they drop their seeds. I was not 'keeper of the plants' that was my ex. I just looked at them and said, "oooooh pretty." We don't have any plants now. The woodrose seeds are really great. You should check them out when you get a chance.
Insofar as LSD messing you up, I may have to go with the opinion that it will if you were already going to suffer a mental break in the first place. I say this only after sitting in a state run mental hospital for about 9 days after a particularly intense LSD experience.
It was only after said experience that I became aware of my families history with depression, and mild schizophrenia.
I had tried LSD in the past with some mild side effects that generally lasted up to a week or so. These side effects were as I said mild, but still weird. I would see trails and be unable to shift attention quickly in situations that required multitasking. Also I was more so attracted to shiny objects and was prone to see a 'deeper meaning' in most anything. This lasted for a period of up to one week and then diminished all together.
My next few trips were not as intense and were very nice. I had a great time and was eager to try LSD again.
However my last trip was not so fun. Well the trip was great actually, I felt wonderful but the problem was I felt too wonderful and for too long. The trip went on and on it seemed. Well after all my friends had come down and went to sleep. I did not sleep for more than one hour at a time for up to three weeks. My behavior was increasingly erratic and made no sense to those around me until finally my family urged Tim to bring me to a mental hospital.
During the 'trip' that lasted so long I felt extreme empathy to everyone and everything. I could not stand for my friends to talk about anyone in a negative light, (even people I really did not like) because I immediately recalled those negative traits within myself and everyone who ever lived. My ego was gone, I was everyone and no one all at once. I could not watch any movies because I kept 'knowing what would happen'. I would see meaning in everything, profound truth and what not. Ultimately I would empathize with someone, or a concept so much that I became that person/thought for brief periods and would act as if I was indeed that thing which I imagined. Needless to say that was pretty fucking crazy.
I was diagnosed as a schizophrenic and made to take all kinds of drugs, but eventually I got back to 'normal' or as normal as anyone can be I suppose. I just want to say that before my last trip I had been researching the LSD experience, but through Terrence McKenna and his ink. I was sure I was at a place where I could not only handle the trip, but could benefit from it as well. (I was fucking wrong :D )
When I did come back to 'reality' I found whole swaths of information missing from my recall. I have had to re-read most of my books, but even now I have trouble recalling the information as rapidly as I once did. I can compare my journals from before and after and I can say it's like I am a completely different person now.
I'm not saying don't do LSD, or LSD will fuck you life up, but really I feel that no matter what you do or how you prepare for it LSD can cause you to go batshit insane. If you or your family have any strange mental tendencies, or you are under any kind of emotional distress, pick another drug, or not it's up to you. Everyone is different and all that. I still have some left over from that 'experience'. I seriously doubt I'll do it again unless Armageddon comes in 2012, but by then I'm sure it may have lost it's potency. :lulz: I'm not at all saying DRUGS ARE BAD NEVER TAKE THEM, but I am urging caution with this particular drug. It sucks cause I used to have a good time on it too.
Interesting story.
:roll:
Very interesting - thanks for sharing, Raph.
Lys - your ":roll:" response confuses me.
Quote from: Raphaella VonMercer on August 06, 2008, 10:04:22 PM
Insofar as LSD messing you up, I may have to go with the opinion that it will if you were already going to suffer a mental break in the first place. I say this only after sitting in a state run mental hospital for about 9 days after a particularly intense LSD experience.
It was only after said experience that I became aware of my families history with depression, and mild schizophrenia.
I had tried LSD in the past with some mild side effects that generally lasted up to a week or so. These side effects were as I said mild, but still weird. I would see trails and be unable to shift attention quickly in situations that required multitasking. Also I was more so attracted to shiny objects and was prone to see a 'deeper meaning' in most anything. This lasted for a period of up to one week and then diminished all together.
My next few trips were not as intense and were very nice. I had a great time and was eager to try LSD again.
However my last trip was not so fun. Well the trip was great actually, I felt wonderful but the problem was I felt too wonderful and for too long. The trip went on and on it seemed. Well after all my friends had come down and went to sleep. I did not sleep for more than one hour at a time for up to three weeks. My behavior was increasingly erratic and made no sense to those around me until finally my family urged Tim to bring me to a mental hospital.
During the 'trip' that lasted so long I felt extreme empathy to everyone and everything. I could not stand for my friends to talk about anyone in a negative light, (even people I really did not like) because I immediately recalled those negative traits within myself and everyone who ever lived. My ego was gone, I was everyone and no one all at once. I could not watch any movies because I kept 'knowing what would happen'. I would see meaning in everything, profound truth and what not. Ultimately I would empathize with someone, or a concept so much that I became that person/thought for brief periods and would act as if I was indeed that thing which I imagined. Needless to say that was pretty fucking crazy.
I was diagnosed as a schizophrenic and made to take all kinds of drugs, but eventually I got back to 'normal' or as normal as anyone can be I suppose. I just want to say that before my last trip I had been researching the LSD experience, but through Terrence McKenna and his ink. I was sure I was at a place where I could not only handle the trip, but could benefit from it as well. (I was fucking wrong :D )
When I did come back to 'reality' I found whole swaths of information missing from my recall. I have had to re-read most of my books, but even now I have trouble recalling the information as rapidly as I once did. I can compare my journals from before and after and I can say it's like I am a completely different person now.
I'm not saying don't do LSD, or LSD will fuck you life up, but really I feel that no matter what you do or how you prepare for it LSD can cause you to go batshit insane. If you or your family have any strange mental tendencies, or you are under any kind of emotional distress, pick another drug, or not it's up to you. Everyone is different and all that. I still have some left over from that 'experience'. I seriously doubt I'll do it again unless Armageddon comes in 2012, but by then I'm sure it may have lost it's potency. :lulz: I'm not at all saying DRUGS ARE BAD NEVER TAKE THEM, but I am urging caution with this particular drug. It sucks cause I used to have a good time on it too.
Question: Now that it's been and gone, was it worth it?
I've been batshit insane myself and I wouldn't have missed it for the world. I'm always interested in the perspectives of fellow travellers.
Quote from: Lysergic on August 06, 2008, 10:25:12 PM
Interesting story.
:roll:
Thanks I guess :oops:
What I was trying to illustrate though is that you never really know before hand how LSD will effect you, no matter how well researched, or even if you have done it before. I had done it before and never went crazy, but then BAM fucking schizo or some such asshattery. Threw me for a loop big time. :lol:
QuoteQuestion: Now that it's been and gone, was it worth it?
I've been batshit insane myself and I wouldn't have missed it for the world. I'm always interested in the perspectives of fellow travellers.
Well it's hard to say really. I think I benefited from the insights when I was 'insane' but it took me quite sometime to get over it. I don't know if it was the meds they had me on, or what but I had a real hard time coping for nearly a year. I could not work, it was very hard to sleep, I was having trouble reading, basic comprehension was difficult and I became extremely self conscious to the point where it was debilitating almost paranoia.
Despite the long recovery process I will say that this experience has given me new perspective on things like ego loss, the concept behind assuming 'god forms' and alternate realities and the like. The idea that one could pull thoughts from the collective unconscious is something I think on more than I used to as well. During my 'crazy' period I think I may have been doing just that. Also the idea of language is a strong thinking point for me too, mostly concerning the metaphor. When I was out of it I spoke mostly in metaphors that really only I could have comprehend at the time which in hindsight I would say is the big reason I was taken to the hospital and not allowed to recover at home. (Which may or may not have happened eventually I'll never know.) I would say all kinds of fucking weird shit that made perfect sense to me but no one else knew what the hell to make of it. :lulz:
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on August 06, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
Very interesting - thanks for sharing, Raph.
Lys - your ":roll:" response confuses me.
It goes deep.
All I say is- Yes, I get where he's coming from...
And his story is valid, and I don't doubt at all what he's saying...
just wish I was there to smack some sense into him at the time.
Lysergic-
Would love to psychoanalyse raph in person because there's more to this then can be typed.
You can't slap sense into a crazy person, that's why they're crazy.
And the name "raphaella" suggests someone of the female persuasion. Just as a heads up.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on August 06, 2008, 11:35:36 PM
You can't slap sense into a crazy person, that's why they're crazy.
And the name "raphaella" suggests someone of the female persuasion. Just as a heads up.
Yeah, I realised that, but I'm in no mood to play sex favourates, so the sexist that I am, I just defaulted to "he".
In any case, I'm not going to say anything.
Make of it what you will, I'm sure have.]
I just have my own theories, and I'm not assuming anything other then...
it's an interesting story, and very likely of deeper investigation if it were possible...
otherwise, ignore my reaction, I'm just being a bit of a self-righteous dick that can't help but wonder certain things...
What? You're not even making sense.
In actual fact, the fact that raph most likely *is* female just makes me go :roll: even more.
Don't take it the wrong way...
I'm not going to say anything.
You're truth is your truth, and I'm not going to argue it.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on August 06, 2008, 11:41:55 PM
What? You're not even making sense.
I'm drunk.
I've been awake for more then 24 hours.
I don't make any sense.
I'm not going to say anything.
In fact, just ignore me, seriously.
okay
I know you consider yourself the drug czar and all
but usually when someone shares something personal like that
a little sympathy or something is preferable to an eyeroll.
Go get some sleep.
My apoligies.
Seriously, just ignore me as of one or two posts ago.
But, I have a feeling I'll have something to say tomorrow that will justify my :roll: without actually offending anyone.
All right, good luck with that.
Also, just to make sure that I wake up tomorrow and realise that I don't know what the hell I was thinking a while ago, I'm sorry raph.
Really, ignore me going :roll:, I'm *not* thinking straight right now, admittingly, and ironically, I'm on two different drugs at once, and I know both are telling me different things right now...
It's an interesting story, and I reserve any comments on it til I sober up and can analyse properly what you said.
Also, I'm was trolling another board at the same time, my feelings might have merged unfairly in response to what you said.
-Lysergic, has had a big one and is saying stupud shit as of the last few hour or two.
It's Ok really. I just threw that story out there cause I don't want anyone getting the idea that LSD will make you think you are a glass of orange juice, or a fire truck. :wink: But it may make underling, previously unknown, mental weirdness crop up. It could be said that I was due to go insane anyway, but one can never be so sure. The point too is that eventually I did get better. So I really don't feel LSD could make one crazy for the rest of their lives, but then again who's to say. Like anything else I can only speak from personal experience.
Even though I am better now I still think about this experience often. It really has had a profound impact on my life. I do welcome any thoughts you may have on it when your are sober. Feel free to PM me with some questions too. I'm pretty open about this because I am still assimilating everything that went on during this time. But now, I'm off to Coldstone, Ice cream FTW! and then to work :sad:
Backpedaling will only result in more trippin' Lys.
Quote from: Lysergic on August 07, 2008, 12:28:04 AM
Also, just to make sure that I wake up tomorrow and realise that I don't know what the hell I was thinking a while ago, I'm sorry raph.
Really, ignore me going :roll:, I'm *not* thinking straight right now, admittingly, and ironically, I'm on two different drugs at once, and I know both are telling me different things right now...
It's an interesting story, and I reserve any comments on it til I sober up and can analyse properly what you said.
Also, I'm was trolling another board at the same time, my feelings might have merged unfairly in response to what you said.
-Lysergic, has had a big one and is saying stupud shit as of the last few hour or two.
BOYYYY OH BOY are you going to feel shitty when you reread this thread sober! :lulz:
srsly, he can't be absolved of any of this until he goes to rehab.
That's just how it works these days. :|
Quote from: Lysergic on August 07, 2008, 12:28:04 AM
Also, just to make sure that I wake up tomorrow and realise that I don't know what the hell I was thinking a while ago, I'm sorry raph.
Really, ignore me going :roll:, I'm *not* thinking straight right now, admittingly, and ironically, I'm on two different drugs at once, and I know both are telling me different things right now...
This is not actually ironic. It'd be ironic if you were on zero drugs right now.
That wouldn't be ironic. That would be someone else :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on August 06, 2008, 03:43:34 PM
Bannadine can get you high, and huffing Raid is perfectly safe.
True story.
Best drugs advice on this forum ever.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This thread is very funny.
Also, I have yet to buy LSD... Eris just keeps giving it to me.
Once I id a ritual and said "Hey Eris, I wanna try this Acid stuff..." then the next day I was buying some pot and this guy hanging out at the dealers said "Dude, I'm leaving town and won't see you for a few months... here." and he threw me a baggie with 4 hits of LSD in it.
Then about six weeks ago at a party, I was on some Discordian inspired rant around some friends and at the end of it one of them said :"That was Awesome, here" and handed me 6 sugar cubes in a bag.
Sometimes I love Eris.
Also I read a study on the decline of LSD somewhere... I must go look for it.
Ah!
http://www.slate.com/id/2098109/
When I was presenting at a convention last week I got a shiny new book from a vendor that has some nice glossy photos and info on the stuff that is on the street now. Or, at least, what was on the street as of the printing of the book. Shit changes pretty rapidly depending on what you're looking at.
Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 07:45:16 PM
When I was presenting at a convention last week I got a shiny new book from a vendor that has some nice glossy photos and info on the stuff that is on the street now. Or, at least, what was on the street as of the printing of the book. Shit changes pretty rapidly depending on what you're looking at.
Cool, where can I get a copy, does it include pricing and contact information? I'm generally nervous about mail-in orders, do they accept PayPal instead?
:wink:
Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 12, 2009, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 07:45:16 PM
When I was presenting at a convention last week I got a shiny new book from a vendor that has some nice glossy photos and info on the stuff that is on the street now. Or, at least, what was on the street as of the printing of the book. Shit changes pretty rapidly depending on what you're looking at.
Cool, where can I get a copy, does it include pricing and contact information? I'm generally nervous about mail-in orders, do they accept PayPal instead?
:wink:
Nope. But it does have information about how to purchase their mobile drug identifier and their Quick Cup Urine Drug Screen. :lol:
Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 07:54:29 PM
Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 12, 2009, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: R W H N on November 12, 2009, 07:45:16 PM
When I was presenting at a convention last week I got a shiny new book from a vendor that has some nice glossy photos and info on the stuff that is on the street now. Or, at least, what was on the street as of the printing of the book. Shit changes pretty rapidly depending on what you're looking at.
Cool, where can I get a copy, does it include pricing and contact information? I'm generally nervous about mail-in orders, do they accept PayPal instead?
:wink:
Nope. But it does have information about how to purchase their mobile drug identifier and their Quick Cup Urine Drug Screen. :lol:
ROFL... a mobile drug identifier would be nice... but it would probably result in dealers running away.
Also, did you know that fake pee will pass even a 10 panel drug test? I have never used it, but my darling has picked up multiple jobs that way.
fake pee??
Quote from: Cramulus on November 13, 2009, 04:02:44 AM
fake pee??
People will go to great lengths to pass a drug test. Case in point The Whizzinator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whizzinator)
Which is okay to get your foot in the door. But if you have an attentive employer, and your drug use tends to fuck with your productivity, well, you'll probably end up having very short stints in multiple jobs, which will then immediately raise red flags for future employers. So having actual clean urine means urine better shape in the long run.
Ha! cwutididthar. Proselytizing and punning all in one!
It's pretty simple, really. If you can't be productive and use drugs, then you don't deserve drugs.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on November 13, 2009, 05:07:01 PM
It's pretty simple, really. If you can't be productive and use drugs, then you don't deserve drugs.
Fucking THIS.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on November 13, 2009, 05:07:01 PM
It's pretty simple, really. If you can't be productive and use drugs, then you don't deserve drugs.
:potd:
Quote from: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 05, 2008, 06:55:09 AM
Ok...
Mescaline: First 2 hours of the trip I'm puking. No thanx. Good visuals, but no.
Shrooms: Good trip. Mellow. I can still drive to and from the show.
DMT & Salvia: Exactly what's wrong with society today. Businessman trips. You're out for 10-15 minutes, then back. "Oh man, but I'm in another friggin' galaxy, like wow"... yeah, but you don't bring anything back. In, out, quick and painless, and you've learned nothing about the reality around you.
A little lesson kiddies... mind expansion is a process that takes time and effort, not just a quick puffs off a pipe between games of Madden or Family Guy episodes.
Now, back to LSD.
Pretty much died after they busted up that silo in 2000. Is it any coincidence things are getting so shitfuck outta hand since? Where's the heads? All I see is pharmkids and 'feine-fiends. The head scene's dead. Pharmies and the net killed the head scene folks. Someone needs to get some 'cid or something else kickass in here phuckin' pronto!
And don't give me that DMT or 5-meo-dmt or ayahuscrap whatever. Trips take more than 15 minutes. That's why they're called "trips". What you kids do is...a jaunt, I guess.
Ayahuasca takes several hours, and was, for me, the most valuable trip I think I have ever been on. However it also involved puking.
Totally not even considering paying 25 dollars for a hit of LSD. When I was doing it it was 3 for ten or a tenstrip for 20 bucks.
Well, actually, I might pay that, if I knew for absolute 100 percent certain that it was high potency lsd 25, but from an illegal source that is never the case.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on November 13, 2009, 05:07:01 PM
It's pretty simple, really. If you can't be productive and use drugs, then you don't deserve drugs.
Like drinking.
If you can't fucking do your work, you drink too much, knock it off. Then things are fine.
wizard of oz is on while im reading this...
IF I ONLY HAD A BRAIN
Like with most drugs, and with most things in life, I'm ambivilant about LSD. It's easy to have a bad trip, with or without LSD. Life isn't all flowers and teddy bears. In some ways, the world itself seems to be run by the Lords of Bad Acid. A schizophrenic mindset isn't all in my head. Just turn on the news or take a course in history and there's your mental illness. But, LSD can also be a great shamanic portal to God in the journey of the soul, for those who dare to choose it. I've had a few epic journeys with the little bit of acid I've delved into in my life that were just good, clean fun. It inspired me artistically too.
it goes really good with death metal concerts, too.
Quote from: rong on November 16, 2009, 11:03:24 PM
it goes really good with death metal concerts, too.
This, or on the roof of a tall building after watching Peter Pan.
no offense, Ben, but you thinking something is a good idea on LSD is reason enough for me to never try it.
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Quote from: Burns on November 17, 2009, 04:15:44 AM
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