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Started by Jasper, January 13, 2007, 04:54:48 AM

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Jenne

No one is free.

Also, if there's a "cosmic giggle," imo, that means someone's either having a joke "on us"...or there's something that's funny to everyone (i.e. "the human condition").

Cain


Jenne


Cain

I was referring to the no-one is free crap.

Jenne

It's not crap.  But like I said.  w/e

Cain

Yes it is.  Determinism is a shallow little lie used by those who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions and nothing more.

Jenne

I didn't ascribe to determinism.  You put that there, not me.

Seeing as how the "p" in BIP = prison...I'm not sure where you are going with the above statement.

But as I feel a bit jumped on, I'm skidding out of this thread.

Cain

Thats a problem of perception, not freedom.  Big difference.

Jasper

Hey, come back here.

Quote from: Jenne on January 16, 2007, 08:44:35 PM
No one is free.

Also, if there's a "cosmic giggle," imo, that means someone's either having a joke "on us"...or there's something that's funny to everyone (i.e. "the human condition").

Perhaps the CG is not a joke on anybody, so much a pervasive, omnihumorous phenomenon?

Also, if you were to ask Eris Everything is Free until you pay for it.

Jenne

Quote from: Felix Mackay on January 17, 2007, 03:33:36 AM
Hey, come back here.

Quote from: Jenne on January 16, 2007, 08:44:35 PM
No one is free.

Also, if there's a "cosmic giggle," imo, that means someone's either having a joke "on us"...or there's something that's funny to everyone (i.e. "the human condition").

Perhaps the CG is not a joke on anybody, so much a pervasive, omnihumorous phenomenon?

Also, if you were to ask Eris Everything is Free until you pay for it.

Yeah, exactly.  I think we all pay, even pay for others around us.  For what are we all but users of each others' oxygen supplies?

/crotchet

LHX

i think part of the joke is that whatever the worst situation we can imagine is, we will eventually have to face it and learn to be prepared for it

like at the end of Ghostbusters 1

when they have to fight whatever it is that comes to mind, and Ray happens to think of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man




so basically - whatever the worst-case scenario you can think of in your head - that is what you are headed toward and will have to face


for most people, this has to do with betrayal, isolation, forsakenness, and physical pain with out the ability to trust anybody for help

its just a hunch - but there might be something to it...
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LMNO

Oh, great.


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Quote from: LHX on January 17, 2007, 04:57:55 AM
so basically - whatever the worst-case scenario you can think of in your head - that is what you are headed toward and will have to face


for most people, this has to do with betrayal, isolation, forsakenness, and physical pain with out the ability to trust anybody for help

its just a hunch - but there might be something to it...

I believe it.  I've lived it. 

A worst case scenario for me is an untimely loss which is something my wife and I are continuing to negotiate and struggle with. 

I think you are definitely on to something there.  I think many have a fear, maybe not clearly defined, but an idea that a significant portion of their life energy is devoted to avoiding.  "I'm not going to turn out like my [insert name of family member]"
"I don't want to be alone forever"
"I hope the Cancer doesn't come back."

I don't know if this has anything to do with the Cosmic Giggle or not. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Jenne

Quote from: LHX on January 17, 2007, 04:57:55 AM
i think part of the joke is that whatever the worst situation we can imagine is, we will eventually have to face it and learn to be prepared for it

like at the end of Ghostbusters 1

when they have to fight whatever it is that comes to mind, and Ray happens to think of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man




so basically - whatever the worst-case scenario you can think of in your head - that is what you are headed toward and will have to face


for most people, this has to do with betrayal, isolation, forsakenness, and physical pain with out the ability to trust anybody for help

its just a hunch - but there might be something to it...

This seems based on irony.  And I like this.

Also, what RWHN described is spot-on.