SBOTD - Rough guide to freedom

[P3nT4gR4m]

Rough Guide to Freedom (for the recently self liberated)

So you've broken out of jail and you're feeling pretty pleased with yourself. So you should, seeing the bars of the black iron prison is no mean feat but now what? The insight you have gained is crucial but it's also potentially lethal to your own self. Remember that old axiom - A little knowledge is a dangerous thing? Welcome to it's big brother - A lot of knowledge is even more dangerous. Right now, just by knowing what you know you have become a thought criminal. They are looking for you and, if you're not careful, they will find you. Then they'll neutralise you. The good news is they don't know who you are yet. This guide contains 3 golden rules which may help you to keep it that way. Good luck and stay safe.

1) Keep your head down.

Evangelism looks good on paper but take it from me it's a surefire road to the gas chamber. One of the most famous evangelists in western history was a chap named Yeshua ben Joseph or, as he was more popularly known, Jesus Christ. Here's a guy who stood up and shouted it from the top of the mount and look where it got him - Nailed to a plank of wood and left to rot. The stuff he said was rewritten, franchised and repackaged by an early version of government inc. and used to fuel numerous wars, takeovers and oppression projects, all in Jesus name, on behalf of Katholickism PLC and various subsiduaries. What you have to remember is that if the grazing sheep can see you then so can the bad guys. If you've found a loophole then you've shown them it and you can bet your sorry ass that they'll be busy sealing it up just as you're busy decomposing in an unmarked grave, all the while fertilising the grass that the sheep are fed.

The more obvious you become the more attention you will draw so burn the Che Guevara teeshirt and buy something with Hugo Boss written on it. Tear down the burning buddhist posters and get rid of the CND bumper stickers. Keep your books under the bed. If you really want to accomplish something then your best bet is to work undercover. Jumping on a soapbox and spreading the gospel is not how you get the message across, it's how you end up in jail. Do not subscribe to subversive magazines. Do not turn up at demos and rallys, all their operatives mugshots are on federal databases an, even worse, they achieve approximately nothing. Make no mistake, now that you've slipped your chain they're looking for you. Don't make it easy for them.

2) Talk about the weather.

If you're one of them they'll listen to you but only if you're saying the kind of thing they want to hear. To get to the stage you are at right now you've probably always gone against the flow, proud to stand apart from the herd and spit on their customs and conventions. Newsflash - none of them like you! You're just another wierdo, screaming 'burn your MTV' at them from the gutter someplace. Another fuckhead with a sandwitch board with "End of the world is nigh" written on it. They are conditioned to ignore subversion. Their continued slavery depends on it. So blend in. If some BIP pamphlets turn up in the office photocopier it'll be the guy with the dredlocks and facial piercings that gets questioned before the ones with the neat YSL suits and combed side shed. And think about it - haven't you learned by now that the Goth or Eco Warrior look is just another manufactured individualism, sold to the fringes to satisfy their urge to be different? Fashion statements are bullshit, you're supposed to know better. So cut your fucking hair and break out the sensible shoes. You stand a much better chance of getting close enough to mindfuck them and, more importantly, get away with it if you look Normal^tm.

3) Keep your eyes open

You have a new level of awareness and now you have a new peer group. Your new friends aren't as easy to recognise because they don't all wear the same gear your last peer group wore and they don't spout the same idealistic bullshit the last bunch did. Your new friends have learned rules 1 and 2 and blended in quietly. So listen to the 'ordinary' people a bit more carefully. Sure most of them are the same fuckheads you hated before but every odd one or two have been quietly fucking with the system for years. They will be wary of you in the same way as you should be wary of them but you should be able to discern the odd subtle difference in attitude, the unflappability in pressure situations. An easy going nature that belies a heart of steel. Put out some feelers, drop a discordian flyer in your college or workplace or doctors waiting room then keep an eye on anyone who looks at it. The guy who has a glance, smirks, then puts it back - he's the one you'll have a meaningful conversation with. But make no mistake, being liberated is a lonely existence. Get used to it. 'Real' people are few and far between.

[LHX]

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[hunter s.durden]

Are we allowed to bump relevent shit?

*looks at PSV*

[Thurnez Isa]

he's bumping for Roger's SBOTD

[hunter s.durden]

I see, but I still wanted to chastize MGD (or PVS or whatever todays name is) for bumping things that hurt my brain.

It's something to do.

[Jasper]

This is fun stuff.

It's humorous to me that such an important subject can be explained so briefly and in such ideal terms.

IAW what the OP says, but to a different tune.  It's not just a social sublety, one must also strive for positions of status to be effective.  Status is the point of societal conventions, and if you do it well you will be well heard by others who esteem you.  Everyone has a voice, but to have the ears and hearts of others is true influential opportunity.  Roger's success here as what we will mostly agree as the MVP on the forums is based not on his ability to act the part alone.  Command some respect from the people you engage.  Be yourself, but be it more than anyone else can.  Be yourself, but be it more than anyone else can, because if you manage that, you've got some respect.  And respect is the key to communication in most situations, and communication is the currency of revolutions.

[LMNO]

This is fun stuff.

It's humorous to me that such an important subject can be explained so briefly and in such ideal terms.

IAW what the OP says, but to a different tune.  It's not just a social sublety, one must also strive for positions of status to be effective.  Status is the point of societal conventions, and if you do it well you will be well heard by others who esteem you.  Everyone has a voice, but to have the ears and hearts of others is true influential opportunity.  Roger's success here as what we will mostly agree as the MVP on the forums is based not on his ability to act the part alone.  Command some respect from the people you engage.  Be yourself, but be it more than anyone else can.  Be yourself, but be it more than anyone else can, because if you manage that, you've got some respect.  And respect is the key to communication in most situations, and communication is the currency of revolutions.

You got a little something on the tip of your nose there, Felix.

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Definitely feel you on this Cybin.

Ninja shit FTW.

This is fun stuff.

It's humorous to me that such an important subject can be explained so briefly and in such ideal terms.

IAW what the OP says, but to a different tune.  It's not just a social sublety, one must also strive for positions of status to be effective.  Status is the point of societal conventions, and if you do it well you will be well heard by others who esteem you.  Everyone has a voice, but to have the ears and hearts of others is true influential opportunity.  Roger's success here as what we will mostly agree as the MVP on the forums is based not on his ability to act the part alone.  Command some respect from the people you engage.  Be yourself, but be it more than anyone else can.  Be yourself, but be it more than anyone else can, because if you manage that, you've got some respect.  And respect is the key to communication in most situations, and communication is the currency of revolutions.

Yeah, but it's not necessarily the kind of respect you think it is.  Some people want you to kill them.  With ropey exudates.

If you start respecting someone's ability that they're positive they don't have, they'll stop listening to you.  In the same way overinflated egos won't stand for poking holes in their bellows.  Respect is about understanding individual's self concepts accurately, not abiding by a nebulous idea of social convention.  At least in the West.  In collectivist cultures you'll prolly want to flip the script as a general rule.

Speaking of status and whatnot, I might be able to get some investors in on the production of a BIP or SBotD book if we can polish up a cohesive document.  It's getting near presentable, IMO.  Though still a ways off from production.


A question I think we need to ask ourselves is what makes us different from every other bitter dissident? 

What makes us more relevant than the anarcho-elitists who regurgitate the last 3 decades of uppity rebel pastiche?

[LHX]

again:

the differences:


1. the admitted shortcomings
2. the constant checks and balances and self-referential challenges
3. the revolving-door technique
4. relentlessly intellectual pursuit of subversion with a disdain for intellectual pursuits
5. a homage to the law of fives puts any type of 'doctrine' in context
6. variety of styles and creativity leaking out the ass

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again:

the differences:


1. the admitted shortcomings
2. the constant checks and balances and self-referential challenges
3. the revolving-door technique
4. relentlessly intellectual pursuit of subversion with a disdain for intellectual pursuits
5. a homage to the law of fives puts any type of 'doctrine' in context
6. variety of styles and creativity leaking out the ass

Clear on everything but the revolving-door technique...

[LHX]

the fact that people hop on board and leave when ever they feel like it


non-committal + ride the hot hand



come and go has appeal when you are talking about 'organizations'

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the fact that people hop on board and leave when ever they feel like it


non-committal + ride the hot hand



come and go has appeal when you are talking about 'organizations'

Check. 

We do have a chill set-up.

[Jasper]

LMNO:

Nice snipe.

What is your point?  That Roger isn't a qualified example for the point I was making?

How about responding to the content?

Netaungrot:

We are unique enough to have a unifying identity, and that's the extent of it's importance to my mind.

[P3nT4gR4m]

The main thing that attracted me to the discordia movement was Operation Mindfuck. I think I mentioned it in one of my early posts. The difference for me was I first came across the term from one of Pete Carrol's books - very occult and subjective they are. So I had a sorta different take on it from the peeps here. Operation Mindfuck, for me, up til then, was something you did to yourself, namely destroy your paradigm, over and over again, until you begin to realise, on a very deep level, just how little of your experience of reality is set in tablets of stone.

Then I arrived in this forum and OM was something you did to other people. I fell in love with it. I've kinda being doing it all my life anyway but by calling it OM you were making the whole thing much more meaningful and much more powerful.

The 'revolving door' works for me as a fucking brilliant new meme, related to BIP. Revolving door is the exit and it takes you right back into jail as sure as if you'd never left in the first place. For this reason all intelligent people will begin to see holes in their side of any argument you could possibly have. At this point you have a golden opportunity to nuke your own paradigm and run screaming out the door. Yes you'll just end up back in jail but ( to stretch this analogy wafer-thin) maybe the outside is made of glass and at least you get a glimpse of really true truth^tm before you jump back into your cell.

Of course most people don't. Most people's subconscious drive for alpha status or riches or power or whatever, will blind them to the level of bullshit that begins to pour from their keyboard, at their own behest. Most people will begin to deny the validity of their opponents stance on grounds of defective opposition. "This guy is a complete tit who doesn't understand what I'm saying". Argument descends to personal insults or polite agreement to differ in silence, perhaps coated with a few sharp barbs of "I still think you're a tit", by way of resolution.

Fact of the matter is the other guy is probably thinking the same thing. Try agreeing with him, just for the hell of it. Follow it through in your head, taking the side of every counter point that's been made. Yes his argument is gobshite, so was yours. Go take a walk through the revolving door. Smile at him on the way back - he helped you out.

Spirit of PD.com

[Jasper]

I like that, Silly.  Good thinking with the fearless mutuality concept.