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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 04:44:16 PM

Title: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 04:44:16 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-04/hillarys-closest-aide-admits-clinton-illegally-burned-daily-schedule

QuoteIn a deposition last week, NYPost reports that Hillary Clinton's cloests aide - Huma Abedin - revelaed that her boss destroyed at least some of her schedules as secretary of state — a revelation that could complicate matters for the presumptive Democratic nominee, who, along with the State Department she ran, is facing numerous lawsuits seeking those public records.

    "I spent eight years at the State Department and watched as four US ambassadors and two secretaries of state shared their daily schedules with a variety of State Department employees and US officials," said Richard Grenell, former diplomat and US spokesman at the United Nations.

    "I've never seen anyone put their schedule in the burn bag — because every one of them had a state.gov email address and therefore their daily schedules became public records, as required by law."

Laws are for little people.

If the President does it then it is legal. (~GWB)

Obama likes to drone brownies weddings and he's not beyond ordering hits on US citizens abroad.

Cheney just fucking likes to torture folks, and he keeps the film.

Hillary and her famous husband just like to do whatever the fuck enriches them no matter whether it is legal.

QuoteU.N. Official 'Accidentally' Crushes Own Throat Right Before Testifying Against Hillary Clinton
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-02/un-official-accidentally-crushes-own-throat-right-testifying-against-hillary-clinton

and according to some sources the Clintons have left a trail of dead bodies behind as they bury the evidence. Those sources seem somewhat credible, but hey, today evidence of anything can be created from scratch.

Anywho, the point is the Clintons are DIRTY, DIRTY, DIRTY as sin and everybody knows it.

But is destroying her public records (the evidence) important enough to warrant sending her ass to jail (like they threatened to do with Pataeus for the same offenses)?

Is exposing herself and her official work to foreign powers important enough to send her ass to jail?

QuoteFBI Set to Ask Russian President Putin For His Copies of Hillary's Hacked Emails
https://saboteur365.wordpress.com/2016/07/04/fbi-set-to-ask-russian-president-putin-for-his-copies-of-hillarys-hacked-emails/

These are questions for bigger, better, more muscular minds than my own, granted.

But these questions strike at the heart of our current evolution toward a lawless society, or at least a society in which laws are suspended selectively because national security, he/she is the president, too big to jail.

Maybe my facts are all wrong, maybe I am being hot headed and rushing to judgement.

Or maybe this is kinda the way it has always been, but now nobody bothers to hide it no mo.

This too will trickle down.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on July 04, 2016, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 04:44:16 PM

Or maybe this is kinda the way it has always been, but now nobody bothers to hide it no mo.


This seems like the most likely explanation to me.

Breaking news: Humans are shady fuckers and those with the most power probably abuse it in any way which takes their fancy.

We just hear about it more because of the greater communication afforded to us.

It's hard to separate the signal from the noise though.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: Xaz on July 04, 2016, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 04:44:16 PM

Or maybe this is kinda the way it has always been, but now nobody bothers to hide it no mo.


This seems like the most likely explanation to me.

Breaking news: Humans are shady fuckers and those with the most power probably abuse it in any way which takes their fancy.

We just hear about it more because of the greater communication afforded to us.


It's hard to separate the signal from the noise though.

This is no trivial point. Because the appearance of a two tier, or a selective application of law undermines the entire principle of and, more to the point, the justification for rule of law.

And that message does trickle down corrupting society at large.

It gets stuck in the minds of children who grow up knowing that law is just the man with a gun and a fast car who legally robs people roadside just because.

It undermines the foundations of civil society.

But maybe that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
Those news sources look somewhat questionable.

So what's the driving point here? Clinton's bad so.....? What? Trump and his wall? Write in Bernie?


Also, Hi new guy. How's life?

Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
Those news sources look somewhat questionable.

So what's the driving point here? Clinton's bad so.....? What? Trump and his wall? Write in Bernie?


Also, Hi new guy. How's life?

Hey you too.

It ain't about Berning Man or the Donald.

It is about whether or not it is important that our leading elected officials be subject to laws at all. And fwiw 2 of those three sources were zerohedge, pretty reputable by web standards. You should maybe check them out, esp if you study the economy.

It is about whether or not we knowingly elect people that we know are 100% corrupt to our highest public offices.

Do we even give a shit anymore? Do they? If you give these folks de facto permission to violate the law what happens to our nation?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 06:03:22 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree about the reputability of zerohedge but I think your point is a very important one. I think we've probably mostly always been an oligarchy (with occasional blips of socialist-tinged populism, just enough to keep the myth alive) and I think that the long game has to be that we use the increased availability of information to steer things away from jaded acceptance of that status quo. It'll be a generational change, if it happens at all. Not gonna be some Arab Spring-like "people in the streets" moment.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 06:32:03 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 06:03:22 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree about the reputability of zerohedge but I think your point is a very important one. I think we've probably mostly always been an oligarchy (with occasional blips of socialist-tinged populism, just enough to keep the myth alive) and I think that the long game has to be that we use the increased availability of information to steer things away from jaded acceptance of that status quo. It'll be a generational change, if it happens at all. Not gonna be some Arab Spring-like "people in the streets" moment.

I think we are on a slippery slope and that the force vector of societal corruption can't be overcome once it generates momentum.

QuoteIn these Sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its Faults, if they are such; because I think a General Government necessary for us, and there is no Form of Government but what may be a Blessing to the People if well administered; and I believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a Course of Years, and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other.
~ Ben Franklin, Constitutional Convention, 1787
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
Those news sources look somewhat questionable.

So what's the driving point here? Clinton's bad so.....? What? Trump and his wall? Write in Bernie?


Also, Hi new guy. How's life?

Hey you too.

It ain't about Berning Man or the Donald.

It is about whether or not it is important that our leading elected officials be subject to laws at all. And fwiw 2 of those three sources were zerohedge, pretty reputable by web standards. You should maybe check them out, esp if you study the economy. (1)

It is about whether or not we knowingly elect people that we know are 100% corrupt to our highest public offices. (2)

Do we even give a shit anymore? Do they? If you give these folks de facto permission to violate the law what happens to our nation? (3)

1 - I did look at it and that's what drew me to a to conclude "Shonky". Cain is probably your best man to ask for reputable places for this kind of information. My list is more politically orientated than economic.

2 - HA. Look at the current US 2 man con. You've got Clinton and Trump. Both have waves of filth behind them. Being horribly corrupt is mandatory for high office as you need to take care of all the people who got you there. I'd gladly bin every UK MP with a smell of corruption about them but that would leave around 12 (And that's highly optimistic) left in there. Who now are the new go to people for lobbyists so the cycle will perpetuate. Until you've got a mandatory, open and honest record of members interests this shit will always occur. Holidays are disguised as "conferences", booze runs are "fact finding missions" and so on. Unfortunately you need legislation to change this and turkeys are unlikely to vote for an early Christmas.

Until you effectively remove money from politics, you will always have a horrible degree of corruption. Every party, all levels, all "democracies".

3- This is where party politics really fucks everything up. People don't care about wrongdoing on "their" side but cry foul at the behaviour of "them". You could show groups pictures of their candidates eating children and a large percentage will claim it to be propaganda from the other side regardless of any accompanying evidence.

There's probably a larger point here about the media and setting narratives too. You can guess the flavour of most places reporting on any given story without too much effort. Faux, for example is rarely going to care about republican wrong-doing if there's a democrat to point at.

It may be worth you keeping an eye on the Chilcot stuff that the UK will be releasing shortly. Said report apparently puts the Iraq war blame squarely on the soldiers while giving Blair a free pass. Government leaders often have a blanket immunity to prosecution after they leave office for any acts undertaken while in office. I obviously don't agree with that, but will you ever see a leader argue for it to go away? Will any of their prominent supporters when they could one day be fucked by such a law?

ECH - I'd put money on no change until you get a lot of fucking people in the streets. The systems the UK/US are the best money can buy as money has bought and paid for them. Until you get significant pressure from elements without a vested interest you'll just have more of the same. You'd also need to convince people that republicans and democrats are essentially the same fucking thing and many will struggle with that and dismiss any alternatives. After all, "those guys" are lunatic arseholes who just want to ruin the country.

AIB - There was a piece by Twid called something like "founding fathers". From what I recall it seems relevant here. QG?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Her "cloests aide" "revelaed"? Pardon me if I'm slightly skeptical of a news source that doesn't even bother trying to mind their spelling.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:13:47 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Her "cloests aide" "revelaed"? Pardon me if I'm slightly skeptical of a news source that doesn't even bother trying to mind their spelling.

This is why I was missing Nigel. 
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:13:47 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Her "cloests aide" "revelaed"? Pardon me if I'm slightly skeptical of a news source that doesn't even bother trying to mind their spelling.

This is why I was missing Nigel.

:thanks:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
Those news sources look somewhat questionable.

So what's the driving point here? Clinton's bad so.....? What? Trump and his wall? Write in Bernie?


Also, Hi new guy. How's life?

Hey you too.

It ain't about Berning Man or the Donald.

It is about whether or not it is important that our leading elected officials be subject to laws at all. And fwiw 2 of those three sources were zerohedge, pretty reputable by web standards. You should maybe check them out, esp if you study the economy. (1)

It is about whether or not we knowingly elect people that we know are 100% corrupt to our highest public offices. (2)

Do we even give a shit anymore? Do they? If you give these folks de facto permission to violate the law what happens to our nation? (3)

1 - I did look at it and that's what drew me to a to conclude "Shonky". Cain is probably your best man to ask for reputable places for this kind of information. My list is more politically orientated than economic.


Shonky? Hmph.

Before the econ collapse of there was a small cadre or amateur economists who accurately predicted the looming collapse, I was among them. We were able to do so not because we were especially gifted or because we used cheap tricks like rejecting standard orthodoxy or contrarianism. But because the evidence of the looming collapse was blatantly obvious and based on facts.

Personally I was the first among these several thousand amecons who posted online the final trigger for the collapse when the Fed began openly monetizing US debt in April of 2008. I went on to accurately predict that there would be no recovery, that whatever illusion of recovery there ever was would only occur after the baby boomers retired and lots of other things like the trend toward global wage parity, increasingly unsustainable levels of debt and leverage, etc.

Half of this motley crew were gold bugs who made a living selling alarmist literature (term applied loosely) or even physical gold, mining stocks etc.

The other half ran the gambit from people like Henry C. K. Liu http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Others/Henry.html , to idiots like myself.

But hey, at least we could make sense of HCKLiu, and more importantly recognize that what he was saying was based on facts and was indeed true.

Since that time that community has matured significantly giving rise to blogs  and bloggers like Charles Hughes Smith http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/ (regularly featured on zerohedge) and on the geopolitical side veterans like Paul Craig Roberts http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/ (also liberally featured on zerohedge) and many many other fine independent economic and geopolitical commentators, (Nassim Nicholas Taleb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassim_Nicholas_Taleb , David Stockman http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/ . (many of whom are regulars at zerohedge as well)

My point is that there really isn't much room to school me on sources for quality info about the economy from either academic or alternative resources. If it deals with the economy or theories of economics etc I have read it and in most cases discounted it.

jus sayin.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
Those news sources look somewhat questionable.

So what's the driving point here? Clinton's bad so.....? What? Trump and his wall? Write in Bernie?


Also, Hi new guy. How's life?

Hey you too.

It ain't about Berning Man or the Donald.

It is about whether or not it is important that our leading elected officials be subject to laws at all. And fwiw 2 of those three sources were zerohedge, pretty reputable by web standards. You should maybe check them out, esp if you study the economy. (1)

It is about whether or not we knowingly elect people that we know are 100% corrupt to our highest public offices. (2)

Do we even give a shit anymore? Do they? If you give these folks de facto permission to violate the law what happens to our nation? (3)

1 - I did look at it and that's what drew me to a to conclude "Shonky". Cain is probably your best man to ask for reputable places for this kind of information. My list is more politically orientated than economic.

2 - HA. Look at the current US 2 man con. You've got Clinton and Trump. Both have waves of filth behind them. Being horribly corrupt is mandatory for high office as you need to take care of all the people who got you there. I'd gladly bin every UK MP with a smell of corruption about them but that would leave around 12 (And that's highly optimistic) left in there. Who now are the new go to people for lobbyists so the cycle will perpetuate. Until you've got a mandatory, open and honest record of members interests this shit will always occur. Holidays are disguised as "conferences", booze runs are "fact finding missions" and so on. Unfortunately you need legislation to change this and turkeys are unlikely to vote for an early Christmas.

Until you effectively remove money from politics, you will always have a horrible degree of corruption. Every party, all levels, all "democracies".

3- This is where party politics really fucks everything up. People don't care about wrongdoing on "their" side but cry foul at the behaviour of "them". You could show groups pictures of their candidates eating children and a large percentage will claim it to be propaganda from the other side regardless of any accompanying evidence.

There's probably a larger point here about the media and setting narratives too. You can guess the flavour of most places reporting on any given story without too much effort. Faux, for example is rarely going to care about republican wrong-doing if there's a democrat to point at.

It may be worth you keeping an eye on the Chilcot stuff that the UK will be releasing shortly. Said report apparently puts the Iraq war blame squarely on the soldiers while giving Blair a free pass. Government leaders often have a blanket immunity to prosecution after they leave office for any acts undertaken while in office. I obviously don't agree with that, but will you ever see a leader argue for it to go away? Will any of their prominent supporters when they could one day be fucked by such a law?

ECH - I'd put money on no change until you get a lot of fucking people in the streets. The systems the UK/US are the best money can buy as money has bought and paid for them. Until you get significant pressure from elements without a vested interest you'll just have more of the same. You'd also need to convince people that republicans and democrats are essentially the same fucking thing and many will struggle with that and dismiss any alternatives. After all, "those guys" are lunatic arseholes who just want to ruin the country.

AIB - There was a piece by Twid called something like "founding fathers". From what I recall it seems relevant here. QG?

OK, money in politics, check, I get it.

Partisanship, check, I get it.

Healthy measure of well honed cynicism, check, I get it, and enjoy it.

BUT, it makes a great deal of difference how openly we endorse corruption from on high. And this election is as you say about as powerful an endorsement of corruption as Americans have ever been asked to make. Excepting Bernie Man of course.

The dynasties are imo the greater evil by far, both of clan Bush and Clan Clinton.

In some arrangement or another a member of those clans has been in our circle of leaders since the Bros Kennedy were assassinated and those crimes covered up.

IOW those two clans are in on the coup that masquerades as our elected government.

Just my opinion.

Founding fathers?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:35:20 PM
QuoteIOW those two clans are in on the coup that masquerades as our elected government.

Just my opinion.

Please expand on this opinion. I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 07:38:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Her "cloests aide" "revelaed"? Pardon me if I'm slightly skeptical of a news source that doesn't even bother trying to mind their spelling.

Scan any news aggregator and you will find typos like that every single day.

maybe it is because folks are texting it in, or because we rely on imperfect spellcheck programs (or even translation programs, are we outsourcing news aggregation too?), or because people are just in a rush, or as you suggest because the professionalism levels are reducing.

In any case it matters not whether you please the gramma nannies. It matters only that the content of your missive is essentially accurate and that you communicate the message clearly.

Zerohedge is about as good as any alternative news outlet on the WWW.

They aren't Seymour Hersh at The Atlantic, but they beat the pants of the "NETWORK"s any day.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:50:52 PM
And conspiracy theorists are right out as far as that goes. Especially "amateur economist" conspiracy theorists.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 07:51:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:35:20 PM
QuoteIOW those two clans are in on the coup that masquerades as our elected government.

Just my opinion.

Please expand on this opinion. I'm intrigued.

Both the Bush clan and the Clinton clan are balls deep into the deep state that is a direct descendant of the MIC quasi coup that seized control of our government beginning with the assassination of the Bros Kennedy.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:52:21 PM
The RationalWiki entry for ZeroHedge is hilarious, so if I got nothing else out of this thread, there's that.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:52:32 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

I can't even tempt you with the "I'm such an expert on this thing, I'm going to dismiss any new information"?

It's these ones that we need the dunning-Kruger branding iron for.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:57:58 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:52:32 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

I can't even tempt you with the "I'm such an expert on this thing, I'm going to dismiss any new information"?

It's these ones that we need the dunning-Kruger branding iron for.

I have a graph for that!

(http://gadgetopia.com/wp-content/uploads/images/perceived_knowledge01.gif)

Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?

who is Paul Craig Roberts? David Stockman? Charles Hughes Smith? Who is Tyler Durden?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?

We probably don't want to. It thinks shouting names is the same as saying anything. Communication will be difficult, though not impossible.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 04, 2016, 08:09:32 PM
Junky: found it: http://imgur.com/eVAyszh

teeny tiny text so I'm linking instead of embedding.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?

who is Paul Craig Roberts? David Stockman? Charles Hughes Smith? Who is Tyler Durden?

Shit, man, I don't know, because they're way above my pay grade and I don't understand how to use Google. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 08:12:14 PM
I don't understand how to parse social science and have never read a book.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 04, 2016, 08:09:32 PM
Junky: found it: http://imgur.com/eVAyszh

teeny tiny text so I'm linking instead of embedding.

QuoteEveryone in the United States likes to back up one of their political arguments with what would the Founding Fathers do. And you know, I've heard it for the last time without forming some pretty distinct thoughts on the matter.

Raising the ghosts of the Founders to support your political argument is just flat out stupid. Here's why:

1) They're freaking dead. They've all been dead for about 200 years.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 08:17:56 PM
It's too bad the "economics is never practiced as a science" guy isn't here anymore, I would have loved to see these two go at each other.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Cain on July 04, 2016, 08:30:31 PM
I'll take my political views from someone who wasn't a regular poster on Lunatic Outpost, the poor man's GodlikeProductions, thanks.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 08:35:21 PM
Well this took a chuckle-inducing and not entirely unexpected turn. :lulz:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 04, 2016, 09:01:07 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 08:35:21 PM
Well this took a chuckle-inducing and not entirely unexpected turn. :lulz:

I am a bit concerned he didn't post in the smart vs. depressed thread, though. Maybe my canary is well and truly dead.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:51:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:35:20 PM
QuoteIOW those two clans are in on the coup that masquerades as our elected government.

Just my opinion.

Please expand on this opinion. I'm intrigued.

Both the Bush clan and the Clinton clan are balls deep into the deep state that is a direct descendant of the MIC quasi coup that seized control of our government beginning with the assassination of the Bros Kennedy.

Please, continue.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?

who is Paul Craig Roberts? David Stockman? Charles Hughes Smith? Who is Tyler Durden?

Shit, man, I don't know, because they're way above my pay grade and I don't understand how to use Google. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog

eat crow

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/full-story-behind-bloombergs-attempt-unmask-zero-hedge

It is eight pages long, the article that ridicules Bloomberg for such irresponsible and false reporting, so I doubt you have time to read it fore mom brings you your cookies and sends you off to nap.

But rest assured Bloomberg won't do that again! Not when it involves taking the word of a drunk with mental issues without fact checking before you go to press!
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 04, 2016, 08:09:32 PM
Junky: found it: http://imgur.com/eVAyszh

teeny tiny text so I'm linking instead of embedding.

thanks.

The myths of the founders are many. Rich white men who didn't consider women, indians, slaves or kids worthy of constitutional protections. And they weren't lobbying for civil rights even then, they had no problem with limiting one's liberties by consent at the state level.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 04, 2016, 08:30:31 PM
I'll take my political views from someone who wasn't a regular poster on Lunatic Outpost, the poor man's GodlikeProductions, thanks.

And this. :lol:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 09:23:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 04, 2016, 08:30:31 PM
I'll take my political views from someone who wasn't a regular poster on Lunatic Outpost, the poor man's GodlikeProductions, thanks.

Never know what you might learn listening to crazies.



QuoteThe Mad Hatter: Have I gone mad?

[Alice checks Hatter's temperature]

Alice Kingsley: I'm afraid so. You're entirely bonkers. But I'll tell you a secret. All the best people are.



Alice Kingsley: Sometimes I believe in as many as six impossible things before breakfast.

The Mad Hatter: That is an excellent practice.
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The Mad Hatter: [to Alice] You used to be much more..."muchier." You've lost your muchness.

u dunno wut yer missin mate!
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:25:01 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?

who is Paul Craig Roberts? David Stockman? Charles Hughes Smith? Who is Tyler Durden?

Shit, man, I don't know, because they're way above my pay grade and I don't understand how to use Google. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog

eat crow

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/full-story-behind-bloombergs-attempt-unmask-zero-hedge

It is eight pages long, the article that ridicules Bloomberg for such irresponsible and false reporting, so I doubt you have time to read it fore mom brings you your cookies and sends you off to nap.

But rest assured Bloomberg won't do that again! Not when it involves taking the word of a drunk with mental issues without fact checking before you go to press!

This is like referring me back to Natural News for a rebuttal of an article debunking Natural News.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 09:30:27 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:25:01 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?

who is Paul Craig Roberts? David Stockman? Charles Hughes Smith? Who is Tyler Durden?

Shit, man, I don't know, because they're way above my pay grade and I don't understand how to use Google. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog

eat crow

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/full-story-behind-bloombergs-attempt-unmask-zero-hedge

It is eight pages long, the article that ridicules Bloomberg for such irresponsible and false reporting, so I doubt you have time to read it fore mom brings you your cookies and sends you off to nap.

But rest assured Bloomberg won't do that again! Not when it involves taking the word of a drunk with mental issues without fact checking before you go to press!

This is like referring me back to Natural News for a rebuttal of an article debunking Natural News.  :lulz:

I assure you the editors at Bloomberg read it and will NEVER do that again. Too bad you don't read.

You really are head in the sand over new information? Have you had bad experiences with lernin new shtuff? Bullied a lot in skhool or something? Embarrassed by your much smarter sister?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 09:30:27 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:25:01 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?

who is Paul Craig Roberts? David Stockman? Charles Hughes Smith? Who is Tyler Durden?

Shit, man, I don't know, because they're way above my pay grade and I don't understand how to use Google. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog

eat crow

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/full-story-behind-bloombergs-attempt-unmask-zero-hedge

It is eight pages long, the article that ridicules Bloomberg for such irresponsible and false reporting, so I doubt you have time to read it fore mom brings you your cookies and sends you off to nap.

But rest assured Bloomberg won't do that again! Not when it involves taking the word of a drunk with mental issues without fact checking before you go to press!

This is like referring me back to Natural News for a rebuttal of an article debunking Natural News.  :lulz:

I assure you the editors at Bloomberg read it and will NEVER do that again. Too bad you don't read.

You really are head in the sand over new information? Have you had bad experiences with lernin new shtuff? Bullied a lot in skhool or something? Embarrassed by your much smarter sister?

Mostly, I think economists (amateur and otherwise) are largely intellectual children with a box of hammers, I'm uninterested in conspiracy theorists because they tend to be gullible and prone to magical thinking, and I have a great deal of actual academic reading to do and, unless it's hilarious, I'm unwilling to give more than a glance-over at the blog of a couple of conspiracy-peddling anonymous economist bloggers who can't be fucked to use spellcheck.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:35:25 PM
But you do you, man. You do you.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 09:36:22 PM
It is indeed too bad, Nigel, that you don't read because if you did, you'd be able to see that your argument falls apart in the face of this guy's assurances.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:42:31 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 09:36:22 PM
It is indeed too bad, Nigel, that you don't read because if you did, you'd be able to see that your argument falls apart in the face of this guy's assurances.

I'm sure you're correct, but sadly, I am incapable of ascertaining that for myself due to my crippling fear of learning.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 09:46:16 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 09:30:27 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 09:25:01 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Well then.

Nigel, it's been a while, would you like this one?

Oh, no, not worth the bother, really. These days I only bother with ones that seem to have *some* critical thinking skills already, and haven't simply bought into the "I like this alternative view so I'm going to believe it unreservedly".

Too lazy to click the links to Charles Hughes Smith's blog, or the blogs of David Stockman and Paul Craig Roberts? So you have the faintest clue who these people are?

And Henry C. K. Liu is way above your head and your pay grade. I can't blame you for refusing to read something you can't understand anyway.

You should do a little google before you make a fool of yourself.

Lookit this one! He's so cute, already with the presumptive insults even with zero idea who I am or what I do. Can we keep him?

who is Paul Craig Roberts? David Stockman? Charles Hughes Smith? Who is Tyler Durden?

Shit, man, I don't know, because they're way above my pay grade and I don't understand how to use Google. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog

eat crow

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/full-story-behind-bloombergs-attempt-unmask-zero-hedge

It is eight pages long, the article that ridicules Bloomberg for such irresponsible and false reporting, so I doubt you have time to read it fore mom brings you your cookies and sends you off to nap.

But rest assured Bloomberg won't do that again! Not when it involves taking the word of a drunk with mental issues without fact checking before you go to press!

This is like referring me back to Natural News for a rebuttal of an article debunking Natural News.  :lulz:

I assure you the editors at Bloomberg read it and will NEVER do that again. Too bad you don't read.

You really are head in the sand over new information? Have you had bad experiences with lernin new shtuff? Bullied a lot in skhool or something? Embarrassed by your much smarter sister?

Mostly, I think economists (amateur and otherwise) are largely intellectual children with a box of hammers, I'm uninterested in conspiracy theorists because they tend to be gullible and prone to magical thinking, and I have a great deal of actual academic reading to do and, unless it's hilarious, I'm unwilling to give more than a glance-over at the blog of a couple of conspiracy-peddling anonymous economist bloggers who can't be fucked to use spellcheck.

You ignorant inbred!

Paul Craig Roberts:
QuotePaul Craig Roberts (born April 3, 1939) is an American economist, journalist, blogger and former civil servant.[3] His articles on political economy are widely-read and distributed across the web.

He reached the height of his government career when he became the United States Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy under President Reagan in 1981.[4] In office he and his staff successfully combated the stagflation (price-inflation and stagnation) then plaguing the American Economy. Tighter monetary policy was used to restrain inflation, in addition lower marginal tax rates were used to increase the rewards to work and investment.[5] In recognition, he was awarded the US Treasury's Meritorious Service Award for "outstanding contributions to the formulation of United States economic policy".[6]

David Stockman:
QuoteDavid Alan Stockman (born November 10, 1946) is a former businessman and U.S. politician who served as a Republican U.S. Representative from the state of Michigan (1977–1981) and as the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (1981–1985) under President Ronald Reagan

Henry C. K. Liu:
Quote

FavoriteADD TO MY FAVORITES
Henry C.K. Liu

Chairman, Liu Investment Group, Inc.
Visiting Professor, Global Development at UMKC

Henry C.K. Liu was born in Hong Kong and educated at Harvard University in architecture and urban design. His interest in economics and international relations started when he participated in interdisciplinary work on urban and regional development as a professor at the University of California Los Angeles, Harvard and Columbia. He is currently chairman of a private investment group that is based in New York.
Issues: Anti-Poverty programs, Austerity, Bank Bail Out, Banking and Finance, Budget and Tax Policy, Capitalism, Developing Economies, Economic Mobility, Economic Theory, Fannie/Freddie, Financial Markets, Globalization, Healthcare, Housing Market Collapse, International Competition, Keynes v. Friedman, Labor Force, Living Wage, Medicare/Medicaid, Middle Class, Monetary Policy, National Debt, Privatization, Securitization, Social Investment, Social Security, The Federal Reserve, Too Big To Fail, Trade, US Infrastructure, Welfare, Workforce Development
Education:

Architecture and Urban Design, Harvard University

Charles Hugh Smith: from the Mises Institute:
QuoteCharles Hugh Smith is a contributing editor to PeakProsperity.com and the proprietor of the popular blog OfTwoMinds.com. He is the author of numerous books, including Why Everything Is Falling Apart: An Unconventional Guide To Investing In Troubled Times.
https://mises.org/profile/charles-hugh-smith

Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 09:52:21 PM
YOU FOOL NIGEL:

Paul roberts:

QuoteI will begin by stating what we know to be a solid incontrovertible scientific fact. We know that it is strictly impossible for any building, much less steel columned buildings, to "pancake" at free fall speed. Therefore, it is a non-controversial fact that the official explanation of the collapse of the WTC buildings is false.... Since the damning incontrovertible fact has not been investigated, speculation and "conspiracy theories" have filled the void.[64]

In November 2012 Roberts, referred to al Qaeda's role in the attack as "unsubstantiated.

QuoteIn March, 2016, Roberts published an article claiming that many pictures associated with the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting were "doctored." He further claimed that he was unable to determine if the shootings had actually taken place or not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Craig_Roberts
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 09:52:43 PM
I won't even bother to continue.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: POFP on July 04, 2016, 09:57:03 PM
BUT WHO IS JOHN GALT?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 10:02:15 PM
Ah, fuck it. Maybe the next one is better after all.

Stockman:

QuoteOn March 26, 2007, federal prosecutors in Manhattan indicted Stockman in "a scheme... to defraud [Collins & Aikman]'s investors, banks and creditors by manipulating C&A's reported revenues and earnings." The United States Securities and Exchange Commission also brought civil charges against Stockman related to actions that he performed while CEO of Collins & Aikman.[14] Stockman suffered a personal financial loss, over $13 million, along with losses suffered by as many as 15,000 Collins & Aikman employees worldwide.

Stockman said in a statement posted on his law firm's website that the company's end was the consequence of an industry decline, not due to fraud.[15] On January 9, 2009, the US Attorney's Office announced that it did not intend to prosecute Stockman for this case.[16]

Oh. Trustworthy guy.


These are totally people to take financial advice from. Much cleaner than chicken entrails and at least as accurate or your money embezzled anyway.

Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 10:07:13 PM
QuoteI assure you the editors at Bloomberg read it and will NEVER do that again. Too bad you don't read

The article is still there, accessible, and unedited. The reason they are unlikely to do such a thing again is the site is simply not worth a second article on an actual news site. Please do not confuse irrelevance with whatever self inflated feelings you may have towards the site and/or your beliefs.

Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 10:40:44 PM
On January 9, 2009, the US Attorney's Office announced that it did not intend to prosecute Stockman for this case.[16]

from your link, tard.

Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 10:02:15 PM
Ah, fuck it. Maybe the next one is better after all.

Stockman:

QuoteOn March 26, 2007, federal prosecutors in Manhattan indicted Stockman in "a scheme... to defraud [Collins & Aikman]'s investors, banks and creditors by manipulating C&A's reported revenues and earnings." The United States Securities and Exchange Commission also brought civil charges against Stockman related to actions that he performed while CEO of Collins & Aikman.[14] Stockman suffered a personal financial loss, over $13 million, along with losses suffered by as many as 15,000 Collins & Aikman employees worldwide.

Stockman said in a statement posted on his law firm's website that the company's end was the consequence of an industry decline, not due to fraud.[15] On January 9, 2009, the US Attorney's Office announced that it did not intend to prosecute Stockman for this case.[16]

Oh. Trustworthy guy.


These are totally people to take financial advice from. Much cleaner than chicken entrails and at least as accurate or your money embezzled anyway.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 10:40:50 PM
You can tell someone has something super valuable and meaningful to say when a mild comment expressing skepticism of a blogger who can't seem to use spellcheck is met with ad-hominem.
:lulz:

But hey, at least I found out that I'm an ignorant inbred with a fear of learning who won't read and lives with Mommy.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/Y2nbrJyAR6RiM/200_s.gif)
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 10:42:03 PM
Look out, Junky. You're criticizing his religion, and these conspiracy toolbags tend to get all jihadish on you when you do that.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 10:44:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 10:40:50 PM
You can tell someone has something super valuable and meaningful to say when a mild comment expressing skepticism of a blogger who can't seem to use spellcheck is met with ad-hominem.
:lulz:

But hey, at least I found out that I'm an ignorant inbred with a fear of learning who won't read and lives with Mommy.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/Y2nbrJyAR6RiM/200_s.gif)

Then today was not a total waste.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 10:45:36 PM
What the actual fuck? :lulz:

This has to be a troll. Nobody really sucks zerohedge's dick that hard, right?

I mean, Reaganomics gurus? Srsly?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 10:47:47 PM
http://time.com/3997033/conspiracy-theories/

QuoteWhat, in the name of our alleged lizard overlords, convinces a person to believe in conspiracy theories?

According to a pair of new studies published in the journal Applied Cognitive Psychology, conspiracy theorists—and there are a lot more of them than you may think—tend to have one thing in common: they feel a lack of control over their lives.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 10:48:47 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 10:45:36 PM
What the actual fuck? :lulz:

This has to be a troll. Nobody really sucks zerohedge's dick that hard, right?

I mean, Reaganomics gurus? Srsly?

Don't spoil our fun, it's been ages since we had a good Dead Kennedy.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 10:54:16 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 10:45:36 PM
What the actual fuck? :lulz:

This has to be a troll. Nobody really sucks zerohedge's dick that hard, right?

I mean, Reaganomics gurus? Srsly?

I can't believe the intellectual bankruptcy of this forum! Reaganomics gurus got several very key points RIGHT, and nobody since then has managed to match that record.

With inflation pegged in the double digits and the economy stagnant the economists of that era, working under Reagan, correctly addressed the problem and within a few years we entered a period of economic expansion that lasted 17 years.

It is one thing to be dead wrong, as you were, but to match that with arrogance and certainty of your position marks you as a complete fool.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 10:56:35 PM
There's nothing like namecalling to convince strangers that your viewpoint is valid. :lol:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 04, 2016, 10:59:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 10:47:47 PM
http://time.com/3997033/conspiracy-theories/

QuoteWhat, in the name of our alleged lizard overlords, convinces a person to believe in conspiracy theories?

According to a pair of new studies published in the journal Applied Cognitive Psychology, conspiracy theorists—and there are a lot more of them than you may think—tend to have one thing in common: they feel a lack of control over their lives.

I read that weeks ago. Thing is that I am anything but a conspiracy theorist.

But I do know that Hillary is balls deep into the deep state and is DIRTY, DIRTY, DIRTY as hell.

She is all down with disrupting stable governments reducing millions of people to refugee status, in fact she is the architect of the EUpean immigrant crisis. She is an architect of the Libyan crisis.

And you want to see this megga bitch to be prez because Trump and write in Bernie?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 11:04:18 PM
Dropout, expelled, or never attended?

I mean, there's no shame in not having a college education, but it's a little delusional to think it makes you intellectually superior.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 11:05:30 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 10:59:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 10:47:47 PM
http://time.com/3997033/conspiracy-theories/

QuoteWhat, in the name of our alleged lizard overlords, convinces a person to believe in conspiracy theories?

According to a pair of new studies published in the journal Applied Cognitive Psychology, conspiracy theorists—and there are a lot more of them than you may think—tend to have one thing in common: they feel a lack of control over their lives.

I read that weeks ago. Thing is that I am anything but totally a conspiracy theorist.

But I do know that Hillary is balls deep into the deep state and is DIRTY, DIRTY, DIRTY as hell.

She is all down with disrupting stable governments reducing millions of people to refugee status, in fact she is the architect of the EUpean immigrant crisis. She is an architect of the Libyan crisis.

And you want to see this megga bitch to be prez because Trump and write in Bernie?

FTFY
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 11:07:42 PM
I've got a dollar says we've got ourselves a real live Libertechian/Brogrammer here. :lulz:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 11:13:53 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 11:07:42 PM
I've got a dollar says we've got ourselves a real live Libertechian/Brogrammer here. :lulz:

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 11:21:01 PM
The zerohedge thing was just a test to gauge our receptiveness to some infowars, I imagine.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 04, 2016, 11:21:01 PM
The zerohedge thing was just a test to gauge our receptiveness to some infowars, I imagine.

Well, nothing says "free thinker" like parroting a bunch of tools who make a living by pushing the envelope of what gullible paranoids will believe.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 10:40:44 PM
On January 9, 2009, the US Attorney's Office announced that it did not intend to prosecute Stockman for this case.[16]

from your link, tard.

Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 10:02:15 PM
Ah, fuck it. Maybe the next one is better after all.

Stockman:

QuoteOn March 26, 2007, federal prosecutors in Manhattan indicted Stockman in "a scheme... to defraud [Collins & Aikman]'s investors, banks and creditors by manipulating C&A's reported revenues and earnings." The United States Securities and Exchange Commission also brought civil charges against Stockman related to actions that he performed while CEO of Collins & Aikman.[14] Stockman suffered a personal financial loss, over $13 million, along with losses suffered by as many as 15,000 Collins & Aikman employees worldwide.

Stockman said in a statement posted on his law firm's website that the company's end was the consequence of an industry decline, not due to fraud.[15] On January 9, 2009, the US Attorney's Office announced that it did not intend to prosecute Stockman for this case.[16]

Oh. Trustworthy guy.


These are totally people to take financial advice from. Much cleaner than chicken entrails and at least as accurate or your money embezzled anyway.

Yes, child. The point I am showing you that is that if he's not criminally negligent he's just stunningly incompetent and fucked the dog all over the place costing people jobs and money.

Keep taking advice like that and you'll own a lovely repossession order in no time.

Is this the point where you now tell us all about how fabulously wealthy your clever decisions have made you?

Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Freeky on July 04, 2016, 11:29:45 PM
It's been so long since we've had someone so in love with their ideas that they get all hostile at the first sign of skepticism.   <3

I hope he gives us something new for newsfeed. 
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Freeky on July 04, 2016, 11:29:45 PM
It's been so long since we've had someone so in love with their ideas that they get all hostile at the first sign of skepticism.   <3

I hope he gives us something new for newsfeed.

It's like Christmas in July!
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 04, 2016, 11:38:56 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 04, 2016, 10:40:44 PM
On January 9, 2009, the US Attorney's Office announced that it did not intend to prosecute Stockman for this case.[16]

from your link, tard.

Quote from: Junkenstein on July 04, 2016, 10:02:15 PM
Ah, fuck it. Maybe the next one is better after all.

Stockman:

QuoteOn March 26, 2007, federal prosecutors in Manhattan indicted Stockman in "a scheme... to defraud [Collins & Aikman]'s investors, banks and creditors by manipulating C&A's reported revenues and earnings." The United States Securities and Exchange Commission also brought civil charges against Stockman related to actions that he performed while CEO of Collins & Aikman.[14] Stockman suffered a personal financial loss, over $13 million, along with losses suffered by as many as 15,000 Collins & Aikman employees worldwide.

Stockman said in a statement posted on his law firm's website that the company's end was the consequence of an industry decline, not due to fraud.[15] On January 9, 2009, the US Attorney's Office announced that it did not intend to prosecute Stockman for this case.[16]

Oh. Trustworthy guy.


These are totally people to take financial advice from. Much cleaner than chicken entrails and at least as accurate or your money embezzled anyway.

Yes, child. The point I am showing you that is that if he's not criminally negligent he's just stunningly incompetent and fucked the dog all over the place costing people jobs and money.

Keep taking advice like that and you'll own a lovely repossession order in no time.

Is this the point where you now tell us all about how fabulously wealthy your clever decisions have made you?

Maybe we'll really get lucky and he'll tell us what it feels like to be a walking stereotype.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Freeky on July 04, 2016, 11:45:25 PM
Taking bets on this guy being someone here from Reddit, 4Chan, or similar. 

I'm putting up a WOMP on him/her being a teen/early 20s, also.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 05, 2016, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: Freeky on July 04, 2016, 11:45:25 PM
Taking bets on this guy being someone here from Reddit, 4Chan, or similar. 

I'm putting up a WOMP on him/her being a teen/early 20s, also.

Cookies on male pronouns. Actually I should make cookies anyway...
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 05, 2016, 12:29:15 AM
I'll stick £1 on something like that "dark enlightenment" shite from a while back. That was hilarious and this has the same vibe. If there was ever a kid enlightened by his own intelligence it's this one.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2016, 01:20:33 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 05, 2016, 12:29:15 AM
I'll stick £1 on something like that "dark enlightenment" shite from a while back. That was hilarious and this has the same vibe. If there was ever a kid enlightened by his own intelligence it's this one.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the Dark Enlightenment.  :lulz: Those people are hilarious.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2016, 01:20:54 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 05, 2016, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: Freeky on July 04, 2016, 11:45:25 PM
Taking bets on this guy being someone here from Reddit, 4Chan, or similar. 

I'm putting up a WOMP on him/her being a teen/early 20s, also.

Cookies on male pronouns. Actually I should make cookies anyway...

You should always make cookies.




Always.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 05, 2016, 01:44:32 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2016, 01:20:54 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 05, 2016, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: Freeky on July 04, 2016, 11:45:25 PM
Taking bets on this guy being someone here from Reddit, 4Chan, or similar. 

I'm putting up a WOMP on him/her being a teen/early 20s, also.

Cookies on male pronouns. Actually I should make cookies anyway...

You should always make cookies.




Always.

Currently on a cleaning binge, which was badly needed. I've been quietly stockpiling supplies in our normal shopping runs so as not to arouse suspicion, though  :lulz:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2016, 02:04:21 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 05, 2016, 01:44:32 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2016, 01:20:54 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 05, 2016, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: Freeky on July 04, 2016, 11:45:25 PM
Taking bets on this guy being someone here from Reddit, 4Chan, or similar. 

I'm putting up a WOMP on him/her being a teen/early 20s, also.

Cookies on male pronouns. Actually I should make cookies anyway...

You should always make cookies.




Always.

Currently on a cleaning binge, which was badly needed. I've been quietly stockpiling supplies in our normal shopping runs so as not to arouse suspicion, though  :lulz:

Stealth cookies.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Salty on July 05, 2016, 05:24:03 AM
God damn FB for stealing people like this away from us.

Remember when sock-fucking, slack-jawed libertarians used to fall from the trees of PD like a maggot filled, over ripe apple of derp all the God damned time?

Me neither.

The point is, keep posting noob. Please show us all. We haven't been SHOWN real good in ages and now all my juices are flowing and I am afraid what will happen if you stop.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Salty on July 05, 2016, 05:26:29 AM
Also, this thread is extra LOLable after having spent the last year watching Nigel finish off 3 bachelor degrees like they were a tasty piece of meat.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 05, 2016, 12:01:32 PM
Alty lives!

Well that's a couple of good things from this thread at least. The other is that rationalwiki entry for zerohedge which is actually hilarious. Along with the bloomberg article it's quite obvious why there's so many typos and such from their dedicated staff of 40  3 2.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2016, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: Vivat Alty on July 05, 2016, 05:26:29 AM
Also, this thread is extra LOLable after having spent the last year watching Nigel finish off 3 bachelor degrees like they were a tasty piece of meat.

Shhhhhh don't blow my cover
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 05, 2016, 04:39:10 PM
Its OK, you couldn't have possibly read that anyway being so illiterate.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Cain on July 05, 2016, 06:14:01 PM
FBI's refusing to press charges.

Looks like we're going to have to go back to the Vince Foster and Mesa Airport conspiracy theories everyone.  Pack shit up, lets get to it.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2016, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 05, 2016, 12:01:32 PM
Alty lives!

Well that's a couple of good things from this thread at least. The other is that rationalwiki entry for zerohedge which is actually hilarious. Along with the bloomberg article it's quite obvious why there's so many typos and such from their dedicated staff of 40  3 2.

Fucking priceless, isn't it?  :lol:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2016, 11:50:10 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 05, 2016, 04:39:10 PM
Its OK, you couldn't have possibly read that anyway being so illiterate.

Quote from: Cain on July 05, 2016, 06:14:01 PM
FBI's refusing to press charges.

Looks like we're going to have to go back to the Vince Foster and Mesa Airport conspiracy theories everyone.  Pack shit up, lets get to it.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 06, 2016, 05:41:01 AM
Peak FBI Corruption? Meet Bryan Nishimura, Found Guilty For "Removal And Retention Of Classified Materials"

QuoteWhat is even more shocking is that according to Comey, "we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts."

Well, we did. Here is the FBI itself, less than a year ago, charging one Bryan H. Nishimura, 50, of Folsom, who pleaded guilty to "unauthorized removal and retention of classified materials" without malicious intent, in other words precisely what the FBI alleges Hillary did (h/t @DavidSirota):

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/peak-fbi-corruption-meet-bryan-nishimura-found-guilty-removal-and-retention-classifi

In Clinton Case, Obama Administration Nullifies 6 Criminal Laws

QuoteWhen the Obama Administration, on July 5th, ruled that in regard to Hillary Clinton's privatized email system while she was Secretary of State, "Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case" to a grand jury, because "We cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges," they ignored the following six U.S. criminal laws, each of which undeniably describes very well what she did:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/clinton-case-obama-administration-nullifies-6-criminal-laws

Martin Armstrong: "James Comey Had No Problem Keeping Me In Prison Without Any Charges"

Quote

James Comey was the chief prosecutor in the Southern District of New York between 2003 and 2005. He had no problem keeping me in Federal Prison on contempt of court without any charges, indictment, or a civil complaint describing any crime whatsoever that they even admitted openly in court. There was never any charges, complaint ever filed and they publicly stated "there is no description of criminal liability." So he is not someone who upholds the Constitution when it goes against government or the banks. As they say, the Department of Justice is really "Just Us" in reality. He has proven that once again.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/martin-armstrong-james-comey-had-no-problem-keeping-me-prison-without-any-charges

Rudy Giuliani: "Today Hillary Clinton Was Put Way Above The Law"

Quote"While I respect the law enforcement professionals at the FBI, this announcement defies explanation. No one should be above the law. But based upon the director's own statement, it appears damage is being done to the rule of law," Ryan said in a statement, adding that declining to prosecute Clinton for her handling of classified information "will set a terrible precedent."

"The findings of this investigation also make clear that Secretary Clinton misled the American people when she was confronted with her criminal actions," Ryan said in the statement.

Yes, but since no "reasonable judge" would prosecute Hillary (by which we assume he means no judge that has received quid-pro-quo from the Hillary foundation or affiliated and related parties),  and since the FBI "cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts" despite the FBI bringing criminal charges in precisely such a case less than a year ago, the "fix is in."

The fix is in, Hillary will be your next DICKtator in Chief.

And this has not a god damned thing to do with parties you partisan freakholes.

It is about our leaders not only being elevated above the rule of law internally, within the bowels of government, but externally by YOU and the equally sycophantic general public.

QuoteDemocracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.... ~ H L Mencken
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 06, 2016, 06:04:50 AM
Aww, you're still posting links to zerohedge. That's cute!
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Freeky on July 06, 2016, 06:05:56 AM
How are we partisan?  I'm curious.  Can you quote it? 

Also, how are we sycophants?  We haven't obediently praised any politician ITT that I've seen.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: POFP on July 06, 2016, 08:35:48 AM
Feel free to shut me up as someone who's contributed nothing to the original discussion, but I think you're putting too much energy into a troll who would actually use the word "freakhole."
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 06, 2016, 09:18:19 AM
It's interesting to observe. You see, I think this is basically pro-trump propaganda in disguise. Pretend to dislike both but really stick the boot into the Clinton side. It probably says something about the wider western psyche that Clinton has the level of insults directed at her that she does. As you may remember, I'm not a fan (of anyone) but people resort to derogatory language about her with alarming speed and ease.

For reference, see the kid's opening posts and subsequent language used in relation to Trump/Clinton.

Studies must be done. Nigel, would this be a suitable specimen for the brain slicing machine if we can locate it?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 06, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
Did he just cite his zerohedge gurus quoting Rudy Giuliani as a source? :lulz: Wow. See, kids, this is what too much talk radio will do to your brain.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 06, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 06, 2016, 09:18:19 AM
It's interesting to observe. You see, I think this is basically pro-trump propaganda in disguise. Pretend to dislike both but really stick the boot into the Clinton side. It probably says something about the wider western psyche that Clinton has the level of insults directed at her that she does. As you may remember, I'm not a fan (of anyone) but people resort to derogatory language about her with alarming speed and ease.

For reference, see the kid's opening posts and subsequent language used in relation to Trump/Clinton.

Studies must be done. Nigel, would this be a suitable specimen for the brain slicing machine if we can locate it?

Oh no, he's quite uninteresting and of no use to science.

Definitely a neoliberal Trumpist of some variety. Those are a dime a dozen.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 06, 2016, 05:08:47 PM
Quote from: Fernando Poo on July 06, 2016, 08:35:48 AM
Feel free to shut me up as someone who's contributed nothing to the original discussion, but I think you're putting too much energy into a troll who would actually use the word "freakhole."

I think we're having fun with the only troll who has put up any game at all in ages. It's weak game, but still, it's good for a chuckle or three.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2016, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 06, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
Did he just cite his zerohedge gurus quoting Rudy Giuliani as a source? :lulz: Wow. See, kids, this is what too much talk radio will do to your brain.

To be fair, any time Giuliani says something that isn't "nineeleven", it is fairly newsworthy.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 06, 2016, 05:09:59 PM
You see, Fernando Poo? Even Alty came out of the woodwork for this.

Quote from: Vivat Alty on July 05, 2016, 05:24:03 AM
God damn FB for stealing people like this away from us.

Remember when sock-fucking, slack-jawed libertarians used to fall from the trees of PD like a maggot filled, over ripe apple of derp all the God damned time?

Me neither.

The point is, keep posting noob. Please show us all. We haven't been SHOWN real good in ages and now all my juices are flowing and I am afraid what will happen if you stop.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 06, 2016, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2016, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 06, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
Did he just cite his zerohedge gurus quoting Rudy Giuliani as a source? :lulz: Wow. See, kids, this is what too much talk radio will do to your brain.

To be fair, any time Giuliani says something that isn't "nineeleven", it is fairly newsworthy.

Point taken.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Freeky on July 06, 2016, 05:38:02 PM
Quote from: Fernando Poo on July 06, 2016, 08:35:48 AM
Feel free to shut me up as someone who's contributed nothing to the original discussion, but I think you're putting too much energy into a troll who would actually use the word "freakhole."

Why you gotta ruin our fun?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Salty on July 06, 2016, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: Fernando Poo on July 06, 2016, 08:35:48 AM
Feel free to shut me up as someone who's contributed nothing to the original discussion, but I think you're putting too much energy into a troll who would actually use the word "freakhole."

:stfu3:

THIS IS ALL I HAVE LEFT, YOU BASTARD!
:argh!:
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: POFP on July 06, 2016, 10:38:44 PM
Hahaha, fair enough. I'm just disappointed that this is all we have. I think I'm gonna massively advertise the site all over. If that's ok.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 07, 2016, 01:36:42 AM
I don't if Hillary Clinton burned her neighbors as a sacrifice to Ba'al.  It's her or Trump, and I can live with a little human sacrifice, let along some burned schedules (seriously, who gives a fuck?).
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 07, 2016, 06:06:24 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 07, 2016, 01:36:42 AM
I don't if Hillary Clinton burned her neighbors as a sacrifice to Ba'al.  It's her or Trump, and I can live with a little human sacrifice, let along some burned schedules (seriously, who gives a fuck?).

i purty much agree, the schedules and the private server are not real biggees like breaking into a motel room to steal campaign strategy secrets.

But that really isn't the point.

The point isn't just that we have dual standards and that the law has always been meant for little people. It has been since laws were first decreed and formalized in Cartas and Constitutions.

The point is that we have crossed a line wherein we now openly accept this from our leaders, and calling out "TRUMP" as a defense for this atrocity of social corruption only strengthens my argument.

Once we openly endorse our leadership being unaccountable and above the law the rest of our society will follow that example.

But maybe that is a good thing, dunno.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Pergamos on July 07, 2016, 10:21:14 PM
People may lose their respect for the rule of law, which I think is a good thing, but the laws don't stop applying, there are people with guns to make sure of that.  They only don't apply to those with enough power to make sure they don't apply, same as ever.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 08, 2016, 09:11:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 07, 2016, 01:36:42 AM
I don't if Hillary Clinton burned her neighbors as a sacrifice to Ba'al.  It's her or Trump, and I can live with a little human sacrifice, let along some burned schedules (seriously, who gives a fuck?).

I'd like to note for the record that either candidate actually sacrificing people to Baal would make them more electable.

Also, Baal 2020. Strong foreign policy, strong domestic policy. 
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 08, 2016, 04:34:15 PM
Whoops!

Quote(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term "office" does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

so now we need to endlessly parse the meaning of the word "unlawfully".

We need a special prosecutor, nob gammbit!
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Cain on July 08, 2016, 04:39:05 PM
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-disqualified/
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 08, 2016, 05:00:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 08, 2016, 04:39:05 PM
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-disqualified/

so who you gonna believe? Snopes or Cornell University Law School and the US Federal legal code?

She only managed to escape prosecution because Comey couldn't equate "extreme carelessness" with "gross negligence". Which of course any jury would have been instructed to equate.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Freeky on July 08, 2016, 05:03:33 PM
Have you ever served on a jury, that you know they'd be instructed to do anything?
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Cain on July 08, 2016, 06:50:09 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 08, 2016, 05:00:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 08, 2016, 04:39:05 PM
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-disqualified/

so who you gonna believe? Snopes or Cornell University Law School and the US Federal legal code?

She only managed to escape prosecution because Comey couldn't equate "extreme carelessness" with "gross negligence". Which of course any jury would have been instructed to equate.

Nice job at completely failing to read the link or refute the points within.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 08, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 08, 2016, 06:50:09 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 08, 2016, 05:00:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 08, 2016, 04:39:05 PM
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-disqualified/

I read the link, it cited partisan sources who definitely sound to have been A) answering different questions and B) ill informed.
so who you gonna believe? Snopes or Cornell University Law School and the US Federal legal code?

She only managed to escape prosecution because Comey couldn't equate "extreme carelessness" with "gross negligence". Which of course any jury would have been instructed to equate.

Nice job at completely failing to read the link or refute the points within.
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: babyjesus on July 11, 2016, 05:34:12 PM
QuoteA majority of Americans disapprove of FBI director James Comey's recommendation that Clinton not be charged with a crime over her email arrangement, by 56-35.

Nearly nine in 10 Republicans disagree with the FBI's decision and say it worries them about what she'd do if she became president.

Democrats see things very differently, but with less unanimity –- about two-thirds approve of the decision not to charge Clinton and think the issue is unrelated to what she'd do as president. But three in 10 of Clinton's own party faithful think she should have been charged.

Further, as noted, political independents side more with Republicans on the issue, with roughly six in 10 saying the FBI was wrong and that the issue raises worries about Clinton as president.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-11/majority-americans-disapprove-comeys-decision-hillary

nearly a third of her own party faithful thinks that Pres elect Clinton should be charged with a crime.........

Nothing to see here, move along

Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Junkenstein on July 11, 2016, 05:42:11 PM
Indeed just another shirty zerohedge link
Title: Re: Hillary's Closest Aide Admits Clinton 'Illegally' Burned Daily Schedule
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 12, 2016, 01:28:08 AM
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