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J.K Rowling is writing a new book.

Started by Danjanon, March 04, 2012, 04:43:29 AM

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LMNO

You mean the HP troll slash?  I think Suu has those links. IIR, they still get horrified/creepy complimentary comments.

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Danjanon

Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on March 08, 2012, 02:49:41 AM
JK Rowling's writing is puerile shit. That Harry Potter is so popular says less about her talent than it does about the awful degradation that has happened in young adult literature in the last couple decades and the accompanying decrease in both the expectations and good taste of the relevant audience.

Can you expand on this please?

Don Coyote

Quote from: Danjanon on March 08, 2012, 05:59:56 AM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on March 08, 2012, 02:49:41 AM
JK Rowling's writing is puerile shit. That Harry Potter is so popular says less about her talent than it does about the awful degradation that has happened in young adult literature in the last couple decades and the accompanying decrease in both the expectations and good taste of the relevant audience.

Can you expand on this please?

Her books are considered good and great because the bar of good or great is so fucking low now.

LMNO

Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on March 08, 2012, 02:49:41 AM
For the love of GAWD someone please link to LMNO's fanfic piece ITT.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 08, 2012, 04:11:30 AM
You mean the HP troll slash?  I think Suu has those links. IIR, they still get horrified/creepy complimentary comments.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on March 08, 2012, 05:06:52 AM
Yep, that's the one.

You asked for it...

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,15967.0.html

I never did finish all the stories I meant to write. 

Danjanon

Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 08, 2012, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Danjanon on March 08, 2012, 05:59:56 AM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on March 08, 2012, 02:49:41 AM
JK Rowling's writing is puerile shit. That Harry Potter is so popular says less about her talent than it does about the awful degradation that has happened in young adult literature in the last couple decades and the accompanying decrease in both the expectations and good taste of the relevant audience.

Can you expand on this please?

Her books are considered good and great because the bar of good or great is so fucking low now.
I understood that :). Instead of just criticism I was looking for things like examples and comparisons etc. You've said it's puerile, why and how is it pueril?

Arim the Backwards One

Quote from: Danjanon on March 08, 2012, 09:34:41 PM
Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 08, 2012, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Danjanon on March 08, 2012, 05:59:56 AM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on March 08, 2012, 02:49:41 AM
JK Rowling's writing is puerile shit. That Harry Potter is so popular says less about her talent than it does about the awful degradation that has happened in young adult literature in the last couple decades and the accompanying decrease in both the expectations and good taste of the relevant audience.

Can you expand on this please?

Her books are considered good and great because the bar of good or great is so fucking low now.
I understood that :). Instead of just criticism I was looking for things like examples and comparisons etc. You've said it's puerile, why and how is it pueril?

I would like to know that too. :)
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East Coast Hustle

I'm certainly not going to subject myself to re-reading it to satisfy your desire for specific examples (I suspect if I have to explain that specifically it might be pointless anyway) but as for comparisons, well, LotR springs immediately to mind as does Terry Pratchett's or Tad Williams' stuff.
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The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Don Coyote

The last time I read Harry Potter I was over 10 years ago. All I know was that, one I shouldn't be bothering with children's books at that age, and two I had read more advanced stuff at a younger age. I also think Robert Jordan was a terrible author, and no I won't bother with specifics. The majority of fantasy that has been written over the last 20 years has been garbage, and the stuff over the last 10 has been really bad. I'm looking at you urban modern fantasy genre.

Doktor Howl

I'm gonna say one thing in favor of JK Rowling:  At the end of each book, when Harry defeats whatever it was he was dealing with, there are still lingering consequences that come back to plague him, which is unusually realistic for the genre.

That being said, Dumbledore was the most derivative character in the history of fantasy, with the exception of this shit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_Underbank

I've read one book of the series at the link, and there has NEVER been a more shameless ripoff of Tolkien, ever.
Molon Lube

Golden Applesauce

I genuinely enjoyed the first couple of books when I read them as a kid.  Then again, I also enjoyed Eragon the first time I read it (on the re-reading I was like WTF is this shit, and then I couldn't remember which orc-substitute belonged to Eragon and which belonged to the Wheel of Time series, they blended together so much.)

Lately, I've been reading a lot of unprofessionally translated or double-translated (as in, eng translation by way of of chinese translation) novels.  One thing I've realized is that as long as your characters are kinda likeable, you can get away with a lot of bad writing if you get the pacing and dramatic tension right.  IIRC the first two HP books did a really good job of building the right amount of tension as various things happened and they figured more stuff out, and then finishing off the book with with really cool climactic scenes with characters doing cool stuff.  Like, adventure porn or something.

And I hated Dolores Umbridge (in the "I want this character to lose" sense, not the "I don't like reading about this character" sense) more than I hated any fictional character before or since.  It's a shame Rowling chose to have her get gang-raped by centaurs instead of suffering any meaningful defeat.
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Yeah, but it's more realistic*.  Evil people hardly ever lose.

In fact, when bad shit happens to them, they use it as a sign that they are on the Right Path and whip up a following of people who need a screaming psycho to follow in some hate fueled rampage.





Please to note I laughed at myself derisively, considering the context of the book.

Oysters Rockefeller

Quote from: Golden Applesauce on March 09, 2012, 03:50:13 AM
And I hated Dolores Umbridge (in the "I want this character to lose" sense, not the "I don't like reading about this character" sense) more than I hated any fictional character before or since.  It's a shame Rowling chose to have her get gang-raped by centaurs instead of suffering any meaningful defeat.

Hey....the day I get gang raped by centaurs is the day I consider myself permanently defeated.
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