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Started by Mangrove, August 16, 2011, 04:16:14 PM

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Elder Iptuous

Quote from: Nigel on August 16, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
Actually, I can see it really going places in only 30 years... the first ten, a Utopia of building and cooperation, the second ten, we see the first failures, the last ten, pure anarchist feudalism, disaster, and mayhem out on the open seas!

I know that bashing the libertarians is fun, but on a side note, the Seasteading Foundation claims that they do not support one government form over another, but instead just want to promote these structures so that governmental experimentation of all flavors might be pursued, since there is no frontier on land that this can viably occur anymore.

Given that this was the type of environment that the american colonies gestated in, to a limited extent1, it would seem to me that there is some opportunity for success as well as failure, just like they had.

Do you believe that it is possible for some measure of success in a venture like this?



1- it is probably most notable that there is no longer the relative isolation that the colonies enjoyed/endured since the world is such a smaller place these days.

Nephew Twiddleton

Big potential for failure- very limited resources. Fish and oil maybe but everything else would have to be imported. Some basic things will become way more expensive due to transportation costs.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Iptuous on August 16, 2011, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: Nigel on August 16, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
Actually, I can see it really going places in only 30 years... the first ten, a Utopia of building and cooperation, the second ten, we see the first failures, the last ten, pure anarchist feudalism, disaster, and mayhem out on the open seas!

I know that bashing the libertarians is fun, but on a side note, the Seasteading Foundation claims that they do not support one government form over another, but instead just want to promote these structures so that governmental experimentation of all flavors might be pursued, since there is no frontier on land that this can viably occur anymore.

Given that this was the type of environment that the american colonies gestated in, to a limited extent1, it would seem to me that there is some opportunity for success as well as failure, just like they had.

Do you believe that it is possible for some measure of success in a venture like this?



1- it is probably most notable that there is no longer the relative isolation that the colonies enjoyed/endured since the world is such a smaller place these days.

I think that it would have a chance... albeit a small one... if they were forming governments or at least signing contracts that everyone agreed to follow. The colonies you compare them to had laws governing conduct, they paid taxes to support public works... and frontier law was often brutal.
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Juana

Quote from: Nph. Twid. on August 16, 2011, 10:34:17 PM
Also since they are technically separatists they should be stripped of us citizenship.
Let's hope. I'd like to be able to tell them they can't come back when this gets nasty. We'll accept them back anyway, or at least the rich, but still, it would be nice.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Nph. Twid. on August 16, 2011, 10:32:17 PM
I give it ten years tops. Utopias have a tendency do go dystopian within a handful of years.

Two.

Tops.

And there's gonna be a lot of bones stacked underneath this one.
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Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 16, 2011, 09:58:25 PM

I'm beginning to think you guys like to laugh at libertarians.

:lulz:

It's okay.  We laugh at other people, too.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 16, 2011, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on August 16, 2011, 10:32:17 PM
I give it ten years tops. Utopias have a tendency do go dystopian within a handful of years.

Two.

Tops.

And there's gonna be a lot of bones stacked underneath this one.

It'll take longer than that to build the things.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Nigel on August 16, 2011, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 16, 2011, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on August 16, 2011, 10:32:17 PM
I give it ten years tops. Utopias have a tendency do go dystopian within a handful of years.

Two.

Tops.

And there's gonna be a lot of bones stacked underneath this one.


It'll take longer than that to build the things.


And?

The Lord of the Flies didn't wait for the huts to get built.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 16, 2011, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: Nigel on August 16, 2011, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 16, 2011, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on August 16, 2011, 10:32:17 PM
I give it ten years tops. Utopias have a tendency do go dystopian within a handful of years.

Two.

Tops.

And there's gonna be a lot of bones stacked underneath this one.


It'll take longer than that to build the things.


And?

The Lord of the Flies didn't wait for the huts to get built.

This is true.

But I am still hoping for a long enough run that things really have a chance to get FUNNY.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

Sounds like a bigass Lord Of The Flies setup.  :lulz:
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Nephew Twiddleton

Stripping them of citizenship opens the door for them to resort to illegal immigration which i think would be the icing on the cake.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Nph. Twid. on August 17, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Stripping them of citizenship opens the door for them to resort to illegal immigration which i think would be the icing on the cake.

Oh that would be PRICELESS.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Disco Pickle

Quote from: Nph. Twid. on August 17, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Stripping them of citizenship opens the door for them to resort to illegal immigration which i think would be the icing on the cake.

They can just buy citizenship from another country.  In Mexico it's $150,000 "donation" to invest in their business infrastructure.

Not sure how much in other countries.
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Thread over. There's no way we can produce anything even remotely as funny as this

They even have a ten year old lecturing on video. Reminds me of Zuckerberg crossed with what the bleep.

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 17, 2011, 06:17:39 PM
Thread over. There's no way we can produce anything even remotely as funny as this

They're all going to die.
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