PUA reaction/info/derailment thread

[Cainad (dec.)]

BAM!

"Status > Sex" is what I was dancing around without saying directly. Good work.

[Reginald Ret]

Excellent piece of writing Ron Paul.

One question: Who do you think engineered them to be that way?

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Excellent piece of writing Ron Paul.

One question: Who do you think engineered them to be that way?

Who benefits from it? Power. The 1%. The System. The Reptiles. The Nazi Devil-Worshiper Drug Running Hydra whos tentacles reach every board room, country club and high end whorehouse on this side of the planet. Who does the actual heavy lifting? Schools and advertising mostly.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

That's another part of things, the whole success/failure dynamic and language. When you think about a lot of the terms related to sex there's a lot of win/lose kind of language.

I'm pretty sure humans shouldn't feel proud that they've convinced someone to fuck them. For one, consider that this is basically saying that you don't give a fuck about the other person. They're just meat. Secondly, shouldn't this be a mutually enjoyable thing? Many terms again put emphasis on male enjoyment which at best seems unfair.

Again, rambling and no better point beyond the language we use a lot of the time in these situations is fucked and probably needs a serious societal shift which I have fuck all idea how to bring about.

I realize that its a faux pas to point this out, but have you considered that maybe people arent brainwashed into wanting sex? PUA culture isnt about wanting sex anymore than its about wanting women. Its about going after status. These are people who are trying desperately to achieve some kind of self worth, to feel like they arent losers. Taking away the symbolic association of sex and women with status, aside from being completely impossible, doesnt fix the underlying problem. All youve done is taken away one compensatory thing for another. Just because you make people accept that not having sex doesnt make you a loser, it wont make these people feel less like losers. These people are losers for entirely different reasons, reasons that sex will never fix. Thats why they need a little mental scorecard in their head of all the chicks theyve fucked, its something to point to "You see! Im not a worthless waste of carbon!"

As for this leading to "manipulative sociopathic men". If youre talking about larger cultural issues, I guess...? Empathy isnt one of Americas strong suites. Someone who is a manipulative sociopath in pursuit of one area is probably going to be a manipulative sociopath in other areas. Sociopathy has a way of leaking. If youre talking about PUA I dont buy it for a second. The reason is because these dweebs very gladly define themselves as "manipulative sociopaths", its an image. Its what they WANT to be. And the fact that they have to go out of their way to broadcast it to people so obnoxiously means that it probably isnt true.

These people need women to approve of them for their self esteem. They want to be an alpha male, but the primary way you become an "alpha male" is by having a lot of women choose to fuck you. These people put tie their self worth, their masculinity, into having sex, but what this ultimately means is that a woman is in control of your masculinity. Thats why it has to be framed as the red pilled alpha male NLP mindhacking his way into her pants with this one weird tip. Its also why a real loving relationship with a woman wont fix anything. Because a woman who loves you isnt with you because the sheer animal magnetism of your penis hijacked her vagina and overrode her inferior female brain into fucking you. A woman genuinely being in love with you isnt an ego boost.

The underlying problem here isnt that men feel like they need sex for validation, its that most people today are toxic losers who have a constant need of some kind of third party validation. And theres no fixing that, because its not an accident. These people have been carefully engineered to be this. They are perfect.

Hot damn. Well argued, Ron Paul.


How, if at all, do you feel this fits into the mythology of American Rugged Individualism?

[Pæs]

Hot damn. Well argued, Ron Paul.

Making someone say THIS is the entire point of him coming here being all REASONABLE about things.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Hot damn. Well argued, Ron Paul.

Making someone say THIS is the entire point of him coming here being all REASONABLE about things.

Your warnings fall on deaf ears. PD has already fallen under my spell. The full moon approaches. And there is nothing you can do to stop it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Hot damn. Well argued, Ron Paul.

Making someone say THIS is the entire point of him coming here being all REASONABLE about things.

[Reginald Ret]

Excellent piece of writing Ron Paul.

One question: Who do you think engineered them to be that way?

Who benefits from it? Power. The 1%. The System. The Reptiles. The Nazi Devil-Worshiper Drug Running Hydra whos tentacles reach every board room, country club and high end whorehouse on this side of the planet. Who does the actual heavy lifting? Schools and advertising mostly.

You are assuming a level of competence and organization here that I don't see any evidence for. Yes it sucks, Yes it developed this way, but who is driving Bus? no-one is driving Bus. Bus-driver is in back arguing with rich white adolescents about their loud music while the rest of the bus is on fire while falling off a cliff.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Excellent piece of writing Ron Paul.

One question: Who do you think engineered them to be that way?

Who benefits from it? Power. The 1%. The System. The Reptiles. The Nazi Devil-Worshiper Drug Running Hydra whos tentacles reach every board room, country club and high end whorehouse on this side of the planet. Who does the actual heavy lifting? Schools and advertising mostly.

You are assuming a level of competence and organization here that I don't see any evidence for. Yes it sucks, Yes it developed this way, but who is driving Bus? no-one is driving Bus. Bus-driver is in back arguing with rich white adolescents about their loud music while the rest of the bus is on fire while falling off a cliff.

Call it Reptile v's biped. Call it Amygdala v's Neocortex. We can operate on two levels, call it Autopilot v's Manual. Either the biped is overriding the reptilian control directives or it's vice-versa. We're pretty complex pieces of software. I doubt if anyone is running fully manual. Probably only the severely brain damaged are running fully auto but maybe some are running 70-80% one way or the other.

The best example I have of this effect is one of my favourite manual override opportunities - fear. My hobby is going to scary places and I'll often take others along for the ride. You can plainly see when the reptile takes over the controls. Visible stress response, dilated pupils, wide manic stare, uncontrollable shaking, talking shit. Too much stress and the reptile just locks up. Look at a baby antelope in the jaws of a lioness, just before the teeth clamp down. It's already frozen, pre-empting death. No one is driving antelope for those last precious milliseconds of it's life.

You can't talk to the reptile. It doesn't understand language. You need to get through to the biped, who's been bound and gagged and stuffed in the trunk. Appeal to reason - if you don't "get a grip" you're going to die!

Like I said this applies to any activity. Dating, eating, fighting, fucking... Socialising. Who am I talking to, the reptile or the biped? What's the mix? Path of least resistance is to leave it up to the clockwork reptile. Switch off the calorie-hungry biped supercomputer. Too much like hard work. At a guess, most of the people are predominantly reptile, most of the time.

Maybe it doesn't take a complicated conspiracy. Maybe all it takes is basic human laziness?

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Excellent piece of writing Ron Paul.

One question: Who do you think engineered them to be that way?

Who benefits from it? Power. The 1%. The System. The Reptiles. The Nazi Devil-Worshiper Drug Running Hydra whos tentacles reach every board room, country club and high end whorehouse on this side of the planet. Who does the actual heavy lifting? Schools and advertising mostly.

You are assuming a level of competence and organization here that I don't see any evidence for. Yes it sucks, Yes it developed this way, but who is driving Bus? no-one is driving Bus. Bus-driver is in back arguing with rich white adolescents about their loud music while the rest of the bus is on fire while falling off a cliff.

Evidence? Go to the local school house. Mass schooling was an experiment in social engineering, successful one. Most of the public schooling infrastructure we have today was founded with the explicit purpose, not of education, but of molding people to be a certain way.

We want one class to have a liberal education. We want another class, a very much larger class of necessity, to forgo the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks

That was Woodrow Wilson. At the same time as this, most of the administrative positions in American schooling were filled by representatives of the Rockafellers and Carnegie. Both of which threw considerable political support for compulsory schooling.

Look at advertising. On every fucking streetcorner in my fuckhole of a town theres a god damn McDonalds billboard. CocaCola is one of the most known english words in the world. There are six corporations that control almost all the media you consume. How can you say you dont see competency and organization? What Im talking about isnt far fetched. Its not ruling the world, its shaping the psychology of the masses to a particular goal. You dont think there are people with the competency to do that? Remember when 80% of Americans thought that the war in Iraq was a good idea? Pro tip: it wasnt Dubyas rugged charm that won them over.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Ron Paul has a valid point that is supported by historical facts.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Ron Paul has a valid point that is supported by historical facts.

Except that as of last year, there are only 5 in the news corporation club.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Ron Paul has a valid point that is supported by historical facts.

Except that as of last year, there are only 5 in the news corporation club.

[axod]

That was Woodrow Wilson. At the same time as this, most of the administrative positions in American schooling were filled by representatives of the Rockafellers and Carnegie. Both of which threw considerable political support for compulsory schooling.

You mean House.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

That was Woodrow Wilson. At the same time as this, most of the administrative positions in American schooling were filled by representatives of the Rockafellers and Carnegie. Both of which threw considerable political support for compulsory schooling.

You mean House.

Que?