You've been told to sit down and SHUT UP a lot in your life, and you're getting tired of it and think you're ready to TELL US WHAT and start your Glorious RevolutionTM whether we like it or not.
Sit down. Shut up. You're not there yet.
If you're still worshiping the guillotine, you haven't figured out The Revolution yet. If you still think that the Second Amendment will protect the First Amendment, you're not ready yet. If you still think that the emptiness in your life is worse than the HORRIBLE TRUTH of the refugee, you need to SHUT UP and LISTEN.
There are bad things in the world, it's true. There are bad things in the First World, from assholes spying on your porn and the School to Prison pipeline and predatory banking and medicine for profits to kale and skinny jeans. Your problems are not "fake problems." It's right and appropriate to look at the bars on your cage and holler about them, I'm not here to tell you otherwise.
What I AM here to tell you is that THINGS CAN GET WORSE. If you don't believe me, go tell Richter your feet hurt. Civilization, for all its flaws, has still been a major net gain for humanity. We don't (usually) die of bullshit preventable diseases. We can all (for the most part) find somewhere safe and warm to sleep. When we are injured, we (generally) have access to the kind of medical treatments our ancestors would have traded kingdoms for. We have the best drugs. Any significant seismic shift in civilization could spell the end for all of that. And if you think you're going to be one of the 10% or so of humanity that would thrive in a post-apocalyptic nightmare, YOU'RE DEAD WRONG.
That's not to say that you shouldn't work on fixing problems. It just means you can't be an UTTER MORON about it.
Civilization needs rabblerousers and malcontents to keep it running smoothly. Terrible People know how to manipulate the rules of civilization to steer it in the direction of Dystopian Nightmare, or to increase the benefits to themselves while reducing opportunities for everyone else, or to punish all those smudgy brown people for believing the wrong book. If Good People don't engage in the steering process, we go to hell in a handbasket right quick. No, wait. Not Good People. What we need are Assholes. We need people who are NEVER SATISFIED with Good Enough. We need people who REFUSE to SHUT UP when something is wrong.
But, again, you can't be an UTTER MORON about it.
Nonviolence is a tactic. You may think it's a popular tactic because people are pansies and you're the only one MAN ENOUGH to suggest that we all get some guns and tear shit down, but that's because you haven't been listening. You can't win against governments if you choose to fight with guns. They have way better guns than you. And more of them, and more people who know how to use them and aren't afraid to put an ASSHOLE like you in his place. Civilization figured out a long time ago how to deal with a small group of assholes with guns. If you want to change things, you have to be smarter than that.
You wanna fuck the system? Fuck it where it can't see you coming. Edward Snowden did it. Chelsea Manning did it. Bree Newsome and Birgitta Jónsdóttir and Julian Assange did it. You have to come at things sideways, find the holes in their armor that they didn't realize existed. Convert their children and throw the best parties and be all FREE IN THEIR FACES WITHOUT PERMISSION.
That's how you change things. That's The Revolution.
But if you still want to go play toy soldier, I can't really stop you. Just try to get some blood on the mask so we can use it for propaganda later.
Or Kill Me.
Yup.
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Rah!
Quote from: The Chao Te Ching, Chapter 29
Those that would take over the world
and bend it to their will,
will get bent.
The world is full of would-be superheroes
and would-be supervillains.
Maybe the world would be better off without them.
Some lead, and some follow;
Some shout, and some whisper;
Some cry, and some laugh;
Some win, some fail.
The wise keeps their head down
and let the cannon fodder do their jobs.
And many of the problems in the third world are caused by the empire/neo-roman empire of the first world. They did cheap labour, cheap food production using the third world. They are the ones who destroyed their countries and are holding them back economically. They do this so they can pacify first world people with higher wages, etc. I am looking forward to a "Collapse of the Roman Empire 2" scenario soon, so many oppressed peoples of the world will be freed. 9/11 was also a revenge-attack by Bin Laden in name of trying to get revenge on the first world for what they did to his country, if the first-world authorities had not expanded their foreign markets in the third world and had not gone world police then this would not have happened. In a way it was also indirectly caused by first-world authorities meddling in the third world.
As for bringing down the system for an armed revolution scenario. I meant if over 90% of the population were up against them. With the armed ones shooting back at those who try to shoot at the revolting people/protesters. If it results in a war that some of the militias have shot back at those who tried to violently suppress peaceful revolutionaries then so be it. Revolutions require force from a majority of the population to overthrow a minority working against their interests, sometimes it can be armed/turn violent but necessary. An armed/violent revolution will be necessary if the government tries to violently suppress a peaceful revolution by the masses. If you take away the option for peaceful revolution then you leave behind only the option for violent revolution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMYNfQlf1H8
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 05:20:59 PM
And many of the problems in the third world are caused by the empire/neo-roman empire of the first world. They did cheap labour, cheap food production using the third world. They are the ones who destroyed their countries and are holding them back economically. They do this so they can pacify first world people with higher wages, etc.
Congratulations on stating the obvious.
I'm not even arguing anymore, I'm just shitting on him. I got into a mood after Lys crapped his pants on FB, and now I can't stop.
This guy seriously needs to spend some more time with educational materials. This is both facepalmy and hilarious.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 22, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
This guy seriously needs to spend some more time with educational materials. This is both facepalmy and hilarious.
Read the edited post. If the authorities do not allow a peaceful revolution when one occurs it would have to be armed/violent. If they do then good I guess.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 22, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
This guy seriously needs to spend some more time with educational materials. This is both facepalmy and hilarious.
If he actually read the entire Principia before posting that would have been a start.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 22, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
This guy seriously needs to spend some more time with educational materials. This is both facepalmy and hilarious.
If he actually read the entire Principia before posting that would have been a start.
I read some of it and might read the rest in time. I just do not like waiting.
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 22, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
This guy seriously needs to spend some more time with educational materials. This is both facepalmy and hilarious.
If he actually read the entire Principia before posting that would have been a start.
I read some of it and might read the rest in time. I just do not like waiting.
Then read it now. http://www.principiadiscordia.com/
You should also read the Black Iron Prison (same page) and this:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 04, 2013, 05:01:01 PM
"One day, Richter was walking through The City of Hills, when he came upon a monk. The monk accosted Richter, saying unto him "All of reality is illusion". So Richter hit him with a bar stool.
The next day, Richter was again walking, and was accosted by an anarchist, saying unto Richter, "All property is theft". Richter then stole his wallet.
If Richter meets a man with no shoes, he shall take them from him. If he meets a man who has shoes, he shall give them to him.
I felt bad because I had no shoes, so Richter cut my feet off. I felt bad because I had no feet, so Richter ran me over with his car.
It can always get worse."
Ars Richteria 2:19-21
Is "read the edited post" a neurotic tic for you or something? None of your edits ever make your point any stronger. And do you go back and edit EVERY post for fuck's sake? You know there's a Preview button you can check before posting, right?
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 22, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
This guy seriously needs to spend some more time with educational materials. This is both facepalmy and hilarious.
If he actually read the entire Principia before posting that would have been a start.
I read some of it and might read the rest in time. I just do not like waiting.
Ok, so you're a child and you skim materials for things that validate your worldview and don't absorb anything beyond a superficial level. This is not surprising.
Do you think those words just fell out of my head? THEY DIDN'T. Those ideas have been rehashed here in many different forms, notably here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=34418.msg1252336#msg1252336 but there's plenty more. I'm not some magical words pixie who invents ideas wholecloth and spews them forth. NOBODY IS. Ideas are BUILT on OTHER IDEAS.
Right now you have a bunch of BAD IDEAS in your head, because you've been eating nothing but garbage and it shows. You need to start EATING BETTER IDEAS so you can smash them together and come up with new permutations that are GOOD FOR SOMETHING.
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 22, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
This guy seriously needs to spend some more time with educational materials. This is both facepalmy and hilarious.
Read the edited post. If the authorities do not allow a peaceful revolution when one occurs it would have to be armed/violent. If they do then good I guess.
I saw it. It's very sweet that you imagine that you are saying anything new.
Dear ChaosAdvocate, this picture made me think of you:
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11986311_1047576398616223_3827870106735767593_n.png?oh=a89832c25f5d6fcfc8e9817aa501e745&oe=569648E4)
Quote from: Cain on September 22, 2015, 07:50:01 PM
Dear ChaosAdvocate, this picture made me think of you:
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11986311_1047576398616223_3827870106735767593_n.png?oh=a89832c25f5d6fcfc8e9817aa501e745&oe=569648E4)
:lulz: It's perfect.
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 05:20:59 PM
And many of the problems in the third world are caused by the empire/neo-roman empire of the first world. They did cheap labour, cheap food production using the third world. ...
If you want to do something about that, go into robotics.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
Do you think those words just fell out of my head? THEY DIDN'T. Those ideas have been rehashed here in many different forms, notably here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=34418.msg1252336#msg1252336 but there's plenty more. I'm not some magical words pixie who invents ideas wholecloth and spews them forth. NOBODY IS. Ideas are BUILT on OTHER IDEAS.
Right now you have a bunch of BAD IDEAS in your head, because you've been eating nothing but garbage and it shows. You need to start EATING BETTER IDEAS so you can smash them together and come up with new permutations that are GOOD FOR SOMETHING.
I was going to call him autistic and to go back to his political brainwashing, but this post is basically all I wanted to say, but without the hate.
Quote from: Meunster on September 23, 2015, 11:35:22 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
Do you think those words just fell out of my head? THEY DIDN'T. Those ideas have been rehashed here in many different forms, notably here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=34418.msg1252336#msg1252336 but there's plenty more. I'm not some magical words pixie who invents ideas wholecloth and spews them forth. NOBODY IS. Ideas are BUILT on OTHER IDEAS.
Right now you have a bunch of BAD IDEAS in your head, because you've been eating nothing but garbage and it shows. You need to start EATING BETTER IDEAS so you can smash them together and come up with new permutations that are GOOD FOR SOMETHING.
I was going to call him autistic and to go back to his political brainwashing, but this post is basically all I wanted to say, but without the hate.
Oh, there was hate in that post. My hate is wordy.