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Messages - Cainad (dec.)

#4621
Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
March 12, 2009, 08:14:16 PM
Every time I try to reply to this thread, I look at what I've typed and then I feel dumb. :sad:

It sure would be nice if I had the wherewithal to finish my attempts to discuss The Religious Case Against Belief in that one thread I made. I thought it was an interesting and fairly original take on this whole mess.
#4622
Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
March 12, 2009, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 12, 2009, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 12, 2009, 05:48:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 12, 2009, 05:41:27 PM
Wait a second... how do YOU know it's not the literal word of their God? Are you assuming that there is a God (but only one) and that is not God's Word, or are you assuming that there is no God and therefore it can't be God's word? If their God is imaginary, does it make him not real? Or does it make him real in an imaginary sense? Santa Claus exists, although not literally. We all know what he looks like and how he behaves. So they have an imaginary God, and most of them more-or-less agree on what he's all about. If he's imaginary and this is the book that they imagine is his divine and literal word, then in a sense, is that not true?

Because of the Council of Nicaea, and good ol' King James, for starters.

Being neither a Christian nor a Bible scholar, I have only the vaguest idea of what you're talking about, AND ALSO have a hard time seeing how it's relevant because one could, if one was going to argue this, argue that a omnipotent God would make sure that the Bible was translated just the way He wanted it to be, and an imaginary God would be no different from an omnipotent one for this purpose.

But that's exactly the point. It's been translated multiple times, in multiple ways, with no clear indicator as to which one is the ACTUAL word of God.
#4623
Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
March 12, 2009, 05:37:13 PM
Quote from: Skieth on March 12, 2009, 04:10:58 PM

See, this is kind of what I meant when I said I hate people who don't know about their religion and blindly accept it.

This is literally a conversation between me and someone I know:

Me: "Ok, so why do you believe in god?"

Him: "Well, Jesus has just worked in my life and he has helped me through the bad parts of it, so I believe in him"

I mean I just can't accept that. You have no idea about your religion and you only follow it because mommy and daddy told you to.

What?

I understand and agree with your inability to accept either reason(s) for believing, but believing because it helps one get through life and believing because it was ingrained in you during your childhood are two very different things. They might be related, but ultimately they're different.

Also, something like 50% of all Americans convert to a different religion at some point in their lives. Accusing those people of believing in something because mom and dad told them so would be pretty counterproductive.
#4624
Quote from: Iptuous on March 12, 2009, 03:50:31 PM
OTOH, maybe i should keep him around to maintain the nice site he just developed for me...

Ask him to build a little corner of the website devoted to you.
#4625
That's pretty wild. All I ever meet are same-gender lookalikes of myself. This has happened like 12 times in my life.

"Dude, I saw this guy who looked exactly like you!"
"What, again?"

I even once saw a guy whom my friend told me was what I would look like in 5 years time. Apparently there is a mass production mold for my model. How upsetting.
#4626
:mittens: to the OP, for expressing exactly what I think of the whole mess.


Them: "But without God, life is just a meaningless nothing! How can anyone live like that?"
Me: :?
#4627
Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
March 11, 2009, 11:44:12 PM
:mittens: = general praise
#4628
Or Kill Me / Re: Save Our Kids
March 11, 2009, 11:11:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 11, 2009, 10:08:52 PM
I hear ya. Us fringe people didn't used to be a market - and now every subculture seems to have its own brand.

Welcome to the Strange Times :wink:

And I didn't know that TV stations would refuse to sell you commercial airtime if you weren't selling a product. That's utter balls.
#4629
Or Kill Me / Re: Save Our Kids
March 11, 2009, 07:56:43 PM
Khara.
Also, this is a pretty sweet rant. :mittens: I remember that damned credit card commercial.
#4630
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT we define god
March 11, 2009, 07:11:51 PM
It's better than saying "I'm agnostic" and adding qualifiers like "I'm agnostic towards all gods and definitions of god(s)."
#4631
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT we define god
March 11, 2009, 05:04:10 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 11, 2009, 04:44:27 AM
Quote from: Felix on March 10, 2009, 05:17:23 AM
God is force.
God = mass X acceleration.


As to the OP:  Don't ask me, I'm an Ignostic.   :wink:

Oh wow, how did I miss this? Ignosticism quite thoroughly describes my views of God and divinity.
#4632
Bring and Brag / Re: Kids Music Band Names?
March 10, 2009, 10:24:49 PM
The Pool On The Roof
Technicolor Mittens
Bucket Of Owls
PD.com Inside Joke


... scratch the last one
#4633
And I'll be Penis McPenis, shooting magic missile dice out of my cock.

NT: I'll be Optimus Prime...
#4634
Quote from: Cain on March 10, 2009, 01:00:43 PM
There was a religious revival in most of the world (Europe aside) in the 1980s.

Connected to the economic depression at all?
#4635
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT we define god
March 09, 2009, 08:29:59 PM
God is an inherently abstract and large-scale idea that most humans seem to run into at some point in their lives.

What no one realizes is that it's an idea with a will of its own, which takes a gleeful pleasure in our consistent failures to verbally compress it into something universally understandable and agreed upon.


Cainad,
Bein' a spag ITT