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Started by LMNO, January 17, 2014, 04:07:21 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

#30
January 17, 2014, 07:29:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 17, 2014, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 17, 2014, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2014, 06:52:01 PM
I was seeing it more as a myth that is fed to rich kids, that if you end up not doing something you love, you're somehow a failure.

But I may very well have been reading my own fears and insecurities into the piece.

You have three choices:

1.  Do what you love.
2.  Love what you do.
3.  Be angry all the damn time.

I didn't do #1, I can't do #2 most of the time, and so for the moment I am stuck on #3.

For another 6-9 months.  Then I am no longer trapped...At which point I may walk the hell out of this place, or hell, I may even enjoy it again (since it will at that point be optional).

I just think that the idea of preaching (in a rather one-sided manner) that you are FUCKED if you love what you do, or are somehow "part of the problem" or whatever, is the denial of Slack™ as a desirable thing.

"Be content in your misery; it could be worse.  You could like your job."

You make an excellent point, sir.  I'm probably just bitter after having toured a really excellent film school yesterday and know I can never ever, in a million years, attend it.

There's a bit of room between "getting exactly what you want" and "hating your job passionately".
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

#31
January 17, 2014, 07:31:32 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 17, 2014, 07:29:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 17, 2014, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 17, 2014, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2014, 06:52:01 PM
I was seeing it more as a myth that is fed to rich kids, that if you end up not doing something you love, you're somehow a failure.

But I may very well have been reading my own fears and insecurities into the piece.

You have three choices:

1.  Do what you love.
2.  Love what you do.
3.  Be angry all the damn time.

I didn't do #1, I can't do #2 most of the time, and so for the moment I am stuck on #3.

For another 6-9 months.  Then I am no longer trapped...At which point I may walk the hell out of this place, or hell, I may even enjoy it again (since it will at that point be optional).

I just think that the idea of preaching (in a rather one-sided manner) that you are FUCKED if you love what you do, or are somehow "part of the problem" or whatever, is the denial of Slack™ as a desirable thing.

"Be content in your misery; it could be worse.  You could like your job."

You make an excellent point, sir.  I'm probably just bitter after having toured a really excellent film school yesterday and know I can never ever, in a million years, attend it.

There's a bit of room between "getting exactly what you want" and "hating your job passionately".

Absolutely.  What I did before wasn't exactly my dream job (though it was likely the dream job of a lot of guys), but it was pretty damn hard to complain about.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

LMNO

#32
January 17, 2014, 07:32:46 PM
Oh, I didn't realize you changed jobs.  When did you stop photoshopping porn stars?

hooplala

#33
January 17, 2014, 07:33:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2014, 07:32:46 PM
Oh, I didn't realize you changed jobs.  When did you stop photoshopping porn stars?

They laid all three of us off a couple months ago.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

LMNO

#34
January 17, 2014, 07:52:42 PM
Sorry to hear that.  Well, at least you won't have to look at hemorrhoids in HD anymore.

The Good Reverend Roger

#35
January 17, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2014, 07:52:42 PM
Sorry to hear that.  Well, at least you won't have to look at hemorrhoids in HD anymore.

I damn near sharted again.   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

#36
January 17, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 17, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2014, 07:52:42 PM
Sorry to hear that.  Well, at least you won't have to look at hemorrhoids in HD anymore.

I damn near sharted again.   :lulz:

:lulz: :horrormirth:

That is the upside to it.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Left

#37
January 18, 2014, 12:14:35 AM
I thought the "do what you love" mantra was one of those motivational poster thingees that nobody really expects you to take seriously.

I like my job.  I just can't live on what I get paid, and therefore have to go find something better.

OTOH, I spent an unhappy 4 months busting ass in a nursing home for minimum wage.
...Here I get slightly above minimum, free coffee, and glorious boredom. 
Not feces-flinging Alzheimer's patients and asshole co-workers.

...It could be worse...
Hope was the thing with feathers.
I smacked it with a hammer until it was red and squashy

Reginald Ret

#38
January 18, 2014, 01:14:53 AM
OP has a few good points.
Yeah, you don't need to hate your job to be a good whatever, but the idea that everyone should do what they love is incredibly damaging to everyone involved.
Everyone who loves what they do gets no right to complain about their job ever, they lose.
Everyone who hates what they do gets no right to complain because they shouldn't have been doing that anyway, they lose.
Everyone who just doesn't care that much has no ambition/selfrespect so they deserve to never get any breaks, the lazy bastards, they lose twice.
You can't win.
Lord Byron: "Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves."

Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

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rong

#39
January 18, 2014, 01:53:31 AM
"a real smart feller, he felt smart"

whenhellfreezes

#40
January 19, 2014, 02:00:53 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 17, 2014, 04:38:01 PM
If no work gets done, everyone fucking starves.

Ergo, work must be done.

Therefore it is best to do work you enjoy.

Does that serve the system?  Who cares?

Fucking Slate.

But, but, if I am not being exploited how do I become a martyr?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#41
January 19, 2014, 02:45:08 AM
Doing what you love is only possible under privileged conditions.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

The Good Reverend Roger

#42
January 19, 2014, 03:43:06 AM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 19, 2014, 02:45:08 AM
Doing what you love is only possible under privileged conditions.

Mostly.

You're earning what you're going to do.  As I understand it, that's not privilege.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#43
January 19, 2014, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 19, 2014, 03:43:06 AM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 19, 2014, 02:45:08 AM
Doing what you love is only possible under privileged conditions.

Mostly.

You're earning what you're going to do.  As I understand it, that's not privilege.

The option of doing so is privilege.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#44
January 19, 2014, 07:27:51 AM
Make no mistake: I am keenly aware of the privilege in my life. I am incredibly fortunate, through absolutely no doing of my own, to have the option of attending college in order to pursue my career interests.  I am doubly privileged to be able to recognize that option, and triply privileged in having the basic ability and recognition that allows me to take advantage of it. I earned NONE of those things.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

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