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Appearently we have state media in the US now

Started by von, February 21, 2014, 02:44:56 AM

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Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2014, 09:59:26 AM
Particpation is voluntary.  The FCC is required by its statute to study how media companies operate. There was no mention of the FCC having control over any process, only studying how companies who chose to take part selected their news and by what processes.

Awesome, thanks cain.

Not to sound beggy or anything, but do you have a source for this claim such that I can convince others that they're paranoid?

LMNO

If citing an accurate source could change a paranoid's mind, there would be no paranoids.

Cain

Can't remember the link, but the head of the FCC, in response to Republican complaints about the plan, said it was a voluntary scheme.

Cain

Besides, putting political media officers in major corporate news agencies would be redundant.

They already exist, and are called "reporters".  I mean, seriously, the idea that the US media is not spinelessly devoted to stenography of Official Proclamations is blatant ideological cant of the most self-flattering kind.  Most media types would rather have a comfortable, non-confrontational interview and cup of tea with the Powers That Be than fight them.

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Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2014, 02:55:22 PM
Besides, putting political media officers in major corporate news agencies would be redundant.

They already exist, and are called "reporters".  I mean, seriously, the idea that the US media is not spinelessly devoted to stenography of Official Proclamations is blatant ideological cant of the most self-flattering kind.  Most media types would rather have a comfortable, non-confrontational interview and cup of tea with the Powers That Be than fight them.

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Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: popeurmom on March 04, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
We've had a state run media for at least almost a year. http://rt.com/usa/obama-president-order-communications-770/
Actually you've had a state run media for over a decade now.

The "at least" in my text insinuating that this is how long it has been done openly in front of our faces, and thus it must have been done longer behind our backs.

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Quote from: popeurmom on March 04, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: popeurmom on March 04, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
We've had a state run media for at least almost a year. http://rt.com/usa/obama-president-order-communications-770/
Actually you've had a state run media for over a decade now.

The "at least" in my text insinuating that this is how long it has been done openly in front of our faces, and thus it must have been done longer behind our backs.

Hrm, no it's been done pretty openly for about a decade as well.
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popeurmom

Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 02:55:50 PM
Quote from: popeurmom on March 04, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: popeurmom on March 04, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
We've had a state run media for at least almost a year. http://rt.com/usa/obama-president-order-communications-770/
Actually you've had a state run media for over a decade now.

The "at least" in my text insinuating that this is how long it has been done openly in front of our faces, and thus it must have been done longer behind our backs.

Hrm, no it's been done pretty openly for about a decade as well.

Please quote other laws or executive orders regarding media control.

Cain

Presidential orders with this authority have existed since 1984, and was updated by Bush Jr.

And, upon reading, what it says is during a national emergency, the government can seize control of the internet and other telecommunication structures to prioritise their own traffic.

So it's not proof of state controlled media at all.

popeurmom

Who defines "national emergency"?

The Boston marathon bombers, was that "national emergency"?

If a Doritos factory's output decreases, is that a "national emergency"?

At what point does a "crisis" warrant takeover of telecommunication to "prioritize their own traffic"?

Speaking of which, what kind of "traffic"? Military "traffic"? Diplomatic "traffic"? Propaganda?

Also, if you could please quote the presidential orders, instead of expecting me to take your word at face value, I'd be grateful.

Cain

I read the article you posted.  I'm not responsible for your lack of reading comprehension.

And I'm well aware of how the US abuses national emergencies.  Certainly more aware than you are.