Defensive Personalities

[Laz]

same again tomorrow?

[Triple Zero]

what is it with you lot, are you all on some easily offended scholarship?

YES WE ARE! OKAY?! DUH

You lot go write a book and post it to me if you want me to comment on particular things you've said and i'll review it for you, line by line. I'll write all of it in red ink so it's easily visible and assign you each a unique identifier so you can see who i'm offending where.

uhuh yep. and why would we want to do that?

cause you have displayed so much reason yet to put value into your opinion yes?

Until then except that you ain't perfect

"accept" - and english isn't even my mother language!

now who ain't perfect?

and get over yourselves. theres a prison inside the black iron prison called the fear of having said something wrong and having pride in what you have said.

but inside that prison is the prison of STFU

[LMNO]

Tessixy Afore! tooo fast!

what is it with you lot, are you all on some easily offended scholarship?

You lot go write a book and post it to me if you want me to comment on particular things you've said and i'll review it for you, line by line. I'll write all of it in red ink so it's easily visible and assign you each a unique identifier so you can see who i'm offending where.

Until then except that you ain't perfect and get over yourselves. theres a prison inside the black iron prison called the fear of having said something wrong and having pride in what you have said.

Laz, you're confusing an eagerness to get to the bottom of a intellectional conflict with "offence".

We're only taking offence to you claiming "dogma", and then not backing it up.



'Round these parts, a person has an idea, we all kick it around for a while, and see how it stands up.

And, we know we're not perfect.  We're just looking for a person to say how.  

Are you that person?  So far, it doesn't seem so.  All you can do is hurl conclusions without proof, and then hide behind "gee, you guys sure post a lot."

[Laz]

lol :0)

why is dogma such a touchy word on this site?

[AFK]

Because you are claiming something that we don't believe we are engaging in.  And you are not backing your claim up with evidence.  It would be like me suggesting I know you are killing all of the neighborhood cats without offering the pictures. 

[LMNO]

Ok, that's not fair.


We ALL know he's killing the neighborhood cats.  That's not even a debate.

[Triple Zero]

Ok, that's not fair.


We ALL know he's killing the neighborhood cats.  That's not even a debate.

that's Catma, right?

[Laz]

so? what's it to you, really?
Do you really expect me to trawl back over the threads and pull out inconsistencies?

And if you could keep it quiet about the cats ;0)

[LHX]

so? what's it to you, really?
Do you really expect me to trawl back over the threads and pull out inconsistencies?

And if you could keep it quiet about the cats ;0)

if you live in a world where people can make you do unnecessary and self-destructive things, it is bad

[LMNO]

so? what's it to you, really?
Do you really expect me to trawl back over the threads and pull out inconsistencies?

Actually, yes.


That's what we do.

Otherwise, you're tacitly inviting us to ignore any idea you might have, and open yourself up to mockery.

[AFK]

It's a simple matter of the fundamentals of debate and discussion.  Debate and discussion is awfully frustrating when one side makes assertions without evidence.  

[P3nT4gR4m]

not the gospels, but "gospel". As in it is holy and divine!

No one said that, either.


Where do you come up with all this shit, anyway?

My brain tells me - I jus write it down.

Actually silly-- you didn't say that.

DOH! Thread moving too fast, can't keep up 

[Laz]

Actually, yes.

It's a simple matter of the fundamentals of debate and discussion.  Debate and discussion is awfully frustrating when one side makes assertions without evidence. 

Okay if those are the rules, then i promise that i will abide by them. It won't be quick though. Would you like me to IM each of you individually or post so that everyone can see?

[LMNO]

It's a group discussion, you might as well post to the board.


And don't worry about a time limit.  Usually, when I'm fighting 1 on 15 (it happens more often than you think), it usually takes me a day or so to complete all the separate thoughts that come up.  We're (usually) content to let the issue lie until you're comfortable enough in your answers/question/comments.


And to call them rules are kind of disingenuous.  It's mainly what we're requesting so the conversation can progress.

[Thurnez Isa]

Laz if a thread dies before you could post your response
you could always bump it

many threads have died many deaths just to be revived again