So what's this whole Race and Gender thing all about....

[The Good Reverend Roger]

because yelling at people is the same as making meaningful change, right?

Marginalizing yourself is meaningful change.  Because it's all about you.

I have in mind one particular PD member who essentially ran herself off in a fit of martyrdom.

[thewake]

This is why tumblr is hilarious, and why the people that use it are monsters.

Can confirm. It's where I get 90% of my fetish porn.

[Meunster]

This is why tumblr is hilarious, and why the people that use it are monsters.

Can confirm. It's where I get 90% of my fetish porn.

Haha, fuck you. All the good fetish artists get shut down by tumblrinas.

[Meunster]

Sad panda or nhentai that shit yo. Or if youre into 3d just use torrents and 8chan.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Bailing.  You two wankmeisters enjoy the thread together.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

It's also a lot easier to ignore the trolls when you have someone else to be. I swear, when I was a kid everyone was all up on us about not using real names, not posting pics, etc. If you failed hard enough to get one of these shitshows, you just make a new identity and move on with your life. Sure sometimes sockpuppets were used to continue monitoring the drama, which is not healthy or productive, and sometimes your socks get outted or whatever, but this persistent identity bullshit that Corporate Internet are pushing is killing the only troll ignoring strategy that worked.

Wound up expanding on this idea a bit. I think I may have gone a little hyperbolic in the title, and I would have been on more solid footing if there was a real increase in suicide rates, but the point isn't completely garbage: https://rebelnews.com/annageoffroy/corporate-internets-persistent-identity-fetish-is-killing-teens/

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It's also a lot easier to ignore the trolls when you have someone else to be. I swear, when I was a kid everyone was all up on us about not using real names, not posting pics, etc. If you failed hard enough to get one of these shitshows, you just make a new identity and move on with your life. Sure sometimes sockpuppets were used to continue monitoring the drama, which is not healthy or productive, and sometimes your socks get outted or whatever, but this persistent identity bullshit that Corporate Internet are pushing is killing the only troll ignoring strategy that worked.

Wound up expanding on this idea a bit. I think I may have gone a little hyperbolic in the title, and I would have been on more solid footing if there was a real increase in suicide rates, but the point isn't completely garbage: https://rebelnews.com/annageoffroy/corporate-internets-persistent-identity-fetish-is-killing-teens/

I love this article. You rock.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

It's also a lot easier to ignore the trolls when you have someone else to be. I swear, when I was a kid everyone was all up on us about not using real names, not posting pics, etc. If you failed hard enough to get one of these shitshows, you just make a new identity and move on with your life. Sure sometimes sockpuppets were used to continue monitoring the drama, which is not healthy or productive, and sometimes your socks get outted or whatever, but this persistent identity bullshit that Corporate Internet are pushing is killing the only troll ignoring strategy that worked.

Wound up expanding on this idea a bit. I think I may have gone a little hyperbolic in the title, and I would have been on more solid footing if there was a real increase in suicide rates, but the point isn't completely garbage: https://rebelnews.com/annageoffroy/corporate-internets-persistent-identity-fetish-is-killing-teens/

Yeah. I agree. People really need to stop using their real names online. I don't even use mine when registering for sites where it theoretically won't be seen by other users.

On a related note I do run into problems if I want to display a piece of art I did or a thing I've written on multiple sites. I still haven't figured out  a good way of keeping people from connecting the two usernames. I try to rewrite things like story ideas in different words, but things like images or finished stories are more problematic.

[Bruno]

Shit, I didn't even use my real name on my Kroger card till I started working there and had to to get the discount.

[East Coast Hustle]

I mean, what if a woman laughed and was like "Oh, LOL, you're a man? I didn't notice!"

Shift the context just a little, and people will take it as an insult. NOT NOTICING who people are isn't flattering, it isn't nice, it isn't post-racism. It's just being a dick, unless you authentically have brain damage or a disorder that makes it difficult for you to perceive physical attributes of individual people.

I think I've mentioned before that my dad is horrifically racist.

He claims he's not because one of his best friends is Greek - and as he puts it, "You'd never know the guy is Greek unless you go to his house because he keeps all that stuff behind closed doors where it doesn't bother anybody! That's the good kind of immigration right there!"

The 'I don't see race' idea always reminds me of that. "You can have a different heritage so long as it doesn't offend me, the mainstream majority, by being obviously different."

I know I'm late to the party here, but are Greeks not considered "white people" where you're from?

Because that's pretty weird.

[Cain]

Anyone from southern Europe is pretty much considered half-white at best.  Spainairds, Italians and Greeks are all suspect as fuck, and probably have covert Turkish/Moorish blood running in them.

It's a bit of an older person's prejudice though, from when a lot of Italian and Greek workers came to the UK in the 50s as part of the rebuilding after the war.  There was a very similar prejudice in Australia against Italians and Greeks, too.

[Meunster]

White people is a racist term tbh.

There's so many different kinds of white, and a jew has about as much similarity to a slav as a black has to a mexican. So why is one grouped together and the other isn't?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

White people is a racist term tbh.

There's so many different kinds of white, and a jew has about as much similarity to a slav as a black has to a mexican. So why is one grouped together and the other isn't?

That's actually something I've wondered about for a long time. But then, race is stupid anyway.

Also, Mexican isn't a race, it's an emotion.

[President Television]

White people is a racist term tbh.

There's so many different kinds of white, and a jew has about as much similarity to a slav as a black has to a mexican. So why is one grouped together and the other isn't?

It kinda reminds me of something a black friend of mine once said, about how they were uncomfortable with the widespread use of the term PoC because it lumps all non-white people together, implying that they're all one big happy family when clearly they're not. Specifically, they cited a friend whose Chinese grandparents, upon hearing she was moving to Toronto, warned her to "watch out for all the n***ers."

White people do benefit from the social structures in most places in ways other people don't, but the entire designation of "white" vs. "non-white" is still kinda nonsensical, as you said, when you cut it away from its context. I think historically, "whiteness" has simply been an imperialist way of designating who counts as a member of the dominant in-group; I recall someone on this very site describing the way the Irish were considered "non-white" when they were still widely discriminated against, in spite of the pastiness of their usual complexion. Hell, I've read of 19th-century racialist theories that tried to claim the Irish were descended from Africans, based on phrenology. Similarly, I wouldn't be surprised if Cold-War-era anti-Soviet propaganda played up the Asian component of Russia's racial makeup, though I haven't looked into it much.

As someone primarily of German and Irish ancestry, I find "white" to be the most convenient way of describing my racial background, since I benefit from all the privileges the category of "whiteness" entails and find experiences of "whiteness" to be relatable and consistent with my own; I know I'd be laughed at at best if I described myself as "mixed-race." I take no issue with this in an immediate sense, since I have no business pretending to face the challenges mixed-race people of non-white descent do, but I have to agree that the circumstances leading to all these designations are pretty fucked up to begin with.

[Meunster]

White privilege is kinda bullshit imo.

Most points about it that people make are illogical.

It's a oppressive term tbh. I can't think critically because I'm white? I can't feel marginalized because I'm white? I can't have empathy because I'm white?

The only privileged I see that I have because I'm white is that cops don't hassle me as much. Which is a problem with how cops are trained not the entirety of society.