the value of information

[LMNO]

This Is The Only Correct Answer.

[LHX]

The Amazon then.


I give a naked human 10 minutes, tops, in the Amazon.




Or, perhaps, you could name a location that is "natural" for a naked human to be?

Or, barring that, name a "natural' environment that is "safe"

ohhhhhhhhhh sweet eris

the wordplay is hell




MAYBE the garden of eden is SAFE

[Cain]

Nah, there was a snake hidden in it.

[LHX]

MAYBE
the pre-snake
or
the pre-sinister-snake
garden of eden
was SAFE

[LMNO]

MAYBE
the pre-snake
or
the pre-sinister-snake
garden of eden
was SAFE

Forgive my assumptions:

if a person really wants to apply this shit
you have to include the fact that we might not live in a hazardous place
or
we might be the architects of all things hazardous

Name a place that is not Hazardous.  I agree we have the tendencey to make a place more hazardous, but I can't think of a place that is not hazardous.

PS - the Garden of Eden is boring.

And a state of mind.

Both.

[LHX]

PS - the Garden of Eden is boring.

whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????

And a state of mind.

not one that can be maintained without killing yourself in this society

[LMNO]

PS - the Garden of Eden is boring.

whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????

Really.  Think Tao, and "without sadness, happiness loses it's pleasure."  When all is Hodge, or Yin, or whatever, it no longer has it's opposite to define itself.

[Irreverend Hugh, KSC]

I just have to say that I think that despite all opinions to the contrary, information is teh suck.

[East Coast Hustle]

I just have to say that I think that despite all opinions to the contrary, information is teh suck.

I'm ECH, and I approve this message.

[LHX]

PS - the Garden of Eden is boring.

whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????

Really.  Think Tao, and "without sadness, happiness loses it's pleasure."  When all is Hodge, or Yin, or whatever, it no longer has it's opposite to define itself.

i am comfortable with this

besides

cant we say at this point that we have known the 'sadness'?


seriously

at what point can it be said that
'okay
we get the message'?


the shit is etched in stone
and
we got the INFORMATION to prove it

[LMNO]

Tolerance builds up.

Too much sadness, and you forget you're sad, and you lose contact with "reality".

Too much happiness, you become a bliss-ninny, and lose contact with "reality".

[LHX]

Tolerance builds up.

Too much sadness, and you forget you're sad, and you lose contact with "reality".

Too much happiness, you become a bliss-ninny, and lose contact with "reality".

maybe thats why we have the concept of 'responsibility'


where tolerance makes you 'forget'
responsibility kicks in to make you 'remember'

[LMNO]

This just took a weird turn.

I'm not sure what you mean by "responsibility", or what that has to do with Information, Value, Hazardous Environments, Happiness, Sorrow, or the Garden of Eden.

Although I like how we've managed to include all of the above in this thread.

Anyway, what do you mean by responsibility, and it's realtion to happiness and sorrow?

[LHX]

recap -

your suggestion was that eden would be boring because there would be no happiness
as there would be no sadness to balance it off

my response was that we could keep the sadness
but
keep it stored in the INFORMATION - much like we have fossils of dinosaurs

to which you replied that our tolerance would build up so we wouldnt remember what the sadness was all about

and then i suggested that maybe this tolerance could be balanced by our responsibility to make sure that doesnt happen
- a responsibility to make sure that the 'lessons' of sadness (hell) wont be repeated
(or at least - perhaps - not the same way)



thats where i got the idea of responsibility and its relation to happiness and sorrow

[LMNO]

my response was that we could keep the sadness
but
keep it stored in the INFORMATION - much like we have fossils of dinosaurs

I think I missed this setp.

Because I would ahve said that reading about emotion or somehow absorbing information about emotion tends to be far different from actual experience of said emotion.

Much like reading "Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenence" will make you neither a bike mechanic, nor an enlightened soul.