Has no one posted this here yet? I can't believe it!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39495001/ns/world_news-americas/?GT1=43001
I love you, Brazil.
QuoteSAO PAULO — Voters the world over complain about having clowns for politicians, but Brazilians embraced the idea on Sunday by sending a real one to Congress with more votes than any other candidate.
Francisco Everardo Oliveira Silva, better known by his clown name Tiririca, received more than 1.3 million votes in Sao Paulo state in Brazil's presidential and congressional elections. That was more than double the votes of the second-placed candidate in Brazil's most populous state.
Tiririca caught the attention of disillusioned voters by asking for their support with the humorous slogan: "It can't get any worse" and a promise to do nothing more in Congress than report back to them on how politicians spend their time.
"What does a congressman do? The truth is I don't know, but vote for me and I'll tell you," the 45-year-old said in his campaign advertisements.
The clown, whose stage name means "grumpy," usually appears in public wearing a blond wig, a red hat and a garish outfit. He survived a last-minute attempt by public prosecutors to bar him from running because of evidence that he is illiterate.
(http://claudiomedeiros.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/tiririca.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_F3BuEePYEQU/TI98ejSgdaI/AAAAAAAALH0/mIpWMW-1wQA/s1600/TIRIRICA_candidato.jpg)
Brazil wins. :lulz:
"It can't get any worse."
:lulz:
We need to track down Rev. Peterson Cekemp again and get his take on this.
OOMFG :lulz: :lulz:
That is just fucking delicious.
I think it's final now: Best decade ever.
two generations ago it was "Hah! Can you believe people actually voted for Mickey Mouse?"
one generation ago it was "heh heh, wouldn't it be funny to really vote for a joke candidate?"
Fast forward 20 years: the real politicians are going to have trouble making it to the primaries.
It'll be great.
"Listen, you people please - I just want to pass meaningful legislation! What is the matter with you?? *sob*"
Still waiting for Arnold Schwarzenegger to manipulate things enough to get himself elected as president.
Yeah, sure. Only if he gets in shape. I'm not voting for some flabby has-been.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 05, 2010, 08:39:38 PM
Still waiting for Arnold Schwarzenegger to manipulate things enough to get himself elected as president.
I've been saying that for years.
Quote from: Sigmatic on October 05, 2010, 08:41:44 PM
Yeah, sure. Only if he gets in shape. I'm not voting for some flabby has-been.
Well this not as long but it's a given!
It is a shame we cannot have someone run for an elected position on the same platform as the clown. I would vote for them.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 05, 2010, 08:39:38 PM
Still waiting for Arnold Schwarzenegger to manipulate things enough to get himself elected as president.
You mean when he takes credit for telling the Feds to Fuck Off after Cali passes prop 19?
Brb starting Clown political party.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 06, 2010, 01:58:53 AM
Brb starting Clown political party.
This is genius. What better antidote to the Tea Party? It's better than the Pretty Pony Party - vote for a Clown!
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 02:14:37 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 06, 2010, 01:58:53 AM
Brb starting Clown political party.
This is genius. What better antidote to the Tea Party? It's better than the Pretty Pony Party - vote for a Clown!
Im doing this.
In 2 years Im running for Congress under the Clown party.
Please establish your aliases with the election commission, every write in for 'Lord glittersnatch' will be a victory.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on October 06, 2010, 02:39:13 AM
Please establish your aliases with the election commission, every write in for 'Lord glittersnatch' will be a victory.
If you run for President I WILL vote for you.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 06, 2010, 02:22:33 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 06, 2010, 02:14:37 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 06, 2010, 01:58:53 AM
Brb starting Clown political party.
This is genius. What better antidote to the Tea Party? It's better than the Pretty Pony Party - vote for a Clown!
Im doing this.
In 2 years Im running for Congress under the Clown party.
I'll head up the Oregon Clown Party so that I can run on the Clown platform when I begin my political career. Which I already accidentally started, but oh well.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 06, 2010, 02:43:42 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on October 06, 2010, 02:39:13 AM
Please establish your aliases with the election commission, every write in for 'Lord glittersnatch' will be a victory.
If you run for President I WILL vote for you.
2012 shall be the year of the clown.
:putin:
LETS DO THIS
I'm down for this. California Clown Party FTW.
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 06, 2010, 04:01:26 AM
I'm down for this. California Clown Party FTW.
We need campaign posters, we need a symbol.
We already have a slogan, "It cant possibly get worse."
A clown leading a donkey and an elephant on a leash? Probably silly, but less silly than about six of the ideas that popped in my head.
Just a clown is fine, I think. It can't be too hard to make into a simple stylized logo.
Or maybe a pig.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 06, 2010, 04:03:49 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 06, 2010, 04:01:26 AM
I'm down for this. California Clown Party FTW.
We need campaign posters, we need a symbol.
We already have a slogan, "It cant possibly get worse."
It can ALWAYS get worse. ALWAYS.
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 06, 2010, 05:21:28 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 06, 2010, 04:03:49 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 06, 2010, 04:01:26 AM
I'm down for this. California Clown Party FTW.
We need campaign posters, we need a symbol.
We already have a slogan, "It cant possibly get worse."
It can ALWAYS get worse. ALWAYS.
This is politics. The facts are irrelevant.
Coolwhip party
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we had an illiterate clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMS!!
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 05, 2010, 07:30:29 PM
Has no one posted this here yet?
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=21352.msg939749#msg939749
8)
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMSevery president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 06, 2010, 05:21:28 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on October 06, 2010, 04:03:49 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 06, 2010, 04:01:26 AM
I'm down for this. California Clown Party FTW.
We need campaign posters, we need a symbol.
We already have a slogan, "It cant possibly get worse."
It can ALWAYS get worse. ALWAYS.
"It cant possibly get worse. Just funnier."
"VOTE FOR A CLOWN!
Because, let's face it, you were going to, anyway."
Or
"VOTE FOR A CLOWN!
It's not like you have any other choice."
"Why vote for the less funny of two clowns?"
Off With The Velvet Glove, On with The Clownshoes!
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMSevery president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
ALL RIGHT NOW,
that nixon guy could reed AN rite!
my Brazilian roommate and his brother are ECSTATIC about this. They think it's the best thing to happen to Brazilian politics since hot wax was invented.
"So who is this guy?" I asked
"He has like four teeth. That's his thing," one of 'em said. "OH and he had that really funny song in the 1990s. What was it called. I don't know. But it was really funny. That's when he was popular."
"He's REALLY dumb," said one of 'em. "He can't read. He doesn't speak Portuguese very well, it sounds to other people like he's maybe a just little bit retarded."
"So he's like Brazil's Krusty the Clown?" I asked
"Yeah that's actually a pretty good way to describe him. I'm gonna vote for him for PRESIDENTE."
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 07, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate idiot puppet clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMS every president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
ALL RIGHT NOW,
that nixon guy could reed AN rite!
Better? :lulz:
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 07, 2010, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 07, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate idiot puppet clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMS every president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
ALL RIGHT NOW,
that nixon guy could reed AN rite!
Better? :lulz:
WELL,
you've certainly got hotpants for lincoln!
Quote from: Cramulus on October 07, 2010, 02:26:35 PM
my Brazilian roommate and his brother are ECSTATIC about this. They think it's the best thing to happen to Brazilian politics since hot wax was invented.
"So who is this guy?" I asked
"He has like four teeth. That's his thing," one of 'em said. "OH and he had that really funny song in the 1990s. What was it called. I don't know. But it was really funny. That's when he was popular."
"He's REALLY dumb," said one of 'em. "He can't read. He doesn't speak Portuguese very well, it sounds to other people like he's maybe a just little bit retarded."
"So he's like Brazil's Krusty the Clown?" I asked
"Yeah that's actually a pretty good way to describe him. I'm gonna vote for him for PRESIDENTE."
Are we going to let Brazil have the last laugh on this?
NO.
We need someone STUPIDER. Someone CLOWNIER. Someone that barely speaks English, and can't speak anything else at all. And has even FEWER teeth.
And wasn't even POPULAR.
That'll show them. Oh, yes. That will show them ALL.
I think Basil Marseux is still available.
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 08, 2010, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 07, 2010, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 07, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate idiot puppet clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMS every president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
ALL RIGHT NOW,
that nixon guy could reed AN rite!
Better? :lulz:
WELL,
you've certainly got hotpants for lincoln!
EWWWWW!
I just think he was the last president with a spine!
Quote from: Sigmatic on October 08, 2010, 07:32:28 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 07, 2010, 02:26:35 PM
my Brazilian roommate and his brother are ECSTATIC about this. They think it's the best thing to happen to Brazilian politics since hot wax was invented.
"So who is this guy?" I asked
"He has like four teeth. That's his thing," one of 'em said. "OH and he had that really funny song in the 1990s. What was it called. I don't know. But it was really funny. That's when he was popular."
"He's REALLY dumb," said one of 'em. "He can't read. He doesn't speak Portuguese very well, it sounds to other people like he's maybe a just little bit retarded."
"So he's like Brazil's Krusty the Clown?" I asked
"Yeah that's actually a pretty good way to describe him. I'm gonna vote for him for PRESIDENTE."
Are we going to let Brazil have the last laugh on this?
NO.
We need someone STUPIDER. Someone CLOWNIER. Someone that barely speaks English, and can't speak anything else at all. And has even FEWER teeth.
And wasn't even POPULAR.
That'll show them. Oh, yes. That will show them ALL.
But Sig, he's already served two terms, we can't elect him again.
:rimshot:
This just made my otherwise shitty day amazing
thank you
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 08, 2010, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 08, 2010, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 07, 2010, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 07, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate idiot puppet clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMS every president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
ALL RIGHT NOW,
that nixon guy could reed AN rite!
Better? :lulz:
WELL,
you've certainly got hotpants for lincoln!
EWWWWW!
I just think he was the last president with a spine!
Eh, he's remembered as a better president than he actually was. Originally he had no strong interest in abolishing slavery, just preventing its spreading. His main concern was maintaining the Union and preventing secession. He also trampled on the constitution a little.
But, in comparison to most other presidents he wasn't too bad. And he had a wicked sense of humor.
Courtesy of a friend on facebook that I haven't talked to for 10+ years:
Simpsons did it! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Spritz_Goes_to_Washington)
I wonder what a clown party rally would be like?
inb4 juggalos
Quote from: Sigmatic on October 08, 2010, 07:32:28 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 07, 2010, 02:26:35 PM
my Brazilian roommate and his brother are ECSTATIC about this. They think it's the best thing to happen to Brazilian politics since hot wax was invented.
"So who is this guy?" I asked
"He has like four teeth. That's his thing," one of 'em said. "OH and he had that really funny song in the 1990s. What was it called. I don't know. But it was really funny. That's when he was popular."
"He's REALLY dumb," said one of 'em. "He can't read. He doesn't speak Portuguese very well, it sounds to other people like he's maybe a just little bit retarded."
"So he's like Brazil's Krusty the Clown?" I asked
"Yeah that's actually a pretty good way to describe him. I'm gonna vote for him for PRESIDENTE."
Are we going to let Brazil have the last laugh on this?
NO.
We need someone STUPIDER. Someone CLOWNIER. Someone that barely speaks English, and can't speak anything else at all. And has even FEWER teeth.
And wasn't even POPULAR.
That'll show them. Oh, yes. That will show them ALL.
WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!!
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 08, 2010, 05:37:20 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 08, 2010, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 08, 2010, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 07, 2010, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 07, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate idiot puppet clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMS every president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
ALL RIGHT NOW,
that nixon guy could reed AN rite!
Better? :lulz:
WELL,
you've certainly got hotpants for lincoln!
EWWWWW!
I just think he was the last president with a spine!
Eh, he's remembered as a better president than he actually was. Originally he had no strong interest in abolishing slavery, just preventing its spreading. His main concern was maintaining the Union and preventing secession. He also trampled on the constitution a little.
But, in comparison to most other presidents he wasn't too bad. And he had a wicked sense of humor.
THIS
thank you
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 08, 2010, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 08, 2010, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 07, 2010, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 07, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate idiot puppet clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMS every president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
ALL RIGHT NOW,
that nixon guy could reed AN rite!
Better? :lulz:
WELL,
you've certainly got hotpants for lincoln!
EWWWWW!
I just think he was the last president with a spine!
NIXON!!
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 09, 2010, 05:35:48 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 08, 2010, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 08, 2010, 02:59:34 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 07, 2010, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 07, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 06, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on October 06, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
DUDE(S)
that's nothin'! here in the states, we've had an illiterate idiot puppet clown for PRESIDENT for TWO TERMS every president since Lincoln!!
Fixed that for ya there! :wink:
ALL RIGHT NOW,
that nixon guy could reed AN rite!
Better? :lulz:
WELL,
you've certainly got hotpants for lincoln!
EWWWWW!
I just think he was the last president with a spine!
NIXON!!
This. Plus, batshit crazy, but only in the later days.
WAS
nixon a scumbag lawyer like all (ahem, lincoln) the rest?! f-no!
BATSHIT CRAZY?
- was in public office during the 60's-70's?!
I don't know. I think LBJ had a spine. He knew he was going to loose the South for the democrats when he signed the Civil Rights bill, and yet he did it anyway.
:eek:
Quote from: Hover Cat on October 09, 2010, 06:49:50 PM
I don't know. I think LBJ had a spine. He knew he was going to noose the South for the democrats when he signed the Civil Rights bill, and yet he did it anyway.
CAREFUL!
thems are fightin words!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cCu8H6RbbI
I don't know if you guys still remember him, but Tiririca has apparently remained very popular in Brazil (http://www.redebrasilatual.com.br/temas/politica/2012/09/tiririca-derruba-preconceito-e-e-eleito-um-dos-melhores-deputados-do-ano),
I'll translate some parts that I found interesting:
Quote[Tiririca] was nominated for journalists covering the legislature as one of the top 25 deputies of the year. With the nomination in the first phase, he now disputes the vote of the Internet, which will define the order of final classification of Congress in Focus Award 2012 , which will be delivered on the 8th of November.
and it's not just demagoguery, but there are some objective measurements as well.
QuoteTiririca is one of the nine deputies who was present in all 171 sessions intended for voting in the House. He has also assisted in committees, where assistance is not mandatory. The congressman showed up at 106 (88%) of the 120 meetings of the Committee on Education and Culture, which he is in charge of. The congressman presented seven bills - all geared to the circus and education...
for example:
QuoteLast month, the Commission on Social Security and Family of the House unanimously approved a bill introduced by the congressman in 2011. The proposal, now referred to the Committee on Constitution and Justice, provides for the establishment of a program of social support to persons performing circus activities.
In practice, the text assures circus professionals inclusion in the Organic Law of Social Assistance, allowing them to be covered, for example, by the Unified Health System even without a fixed address. Today, many circus people have no access to health care and can not enroll their children in public schools for failing to prove the residence, the congressman justified.
Tiririca says the transformation of this bill into law is a top priority of his mandate.
Also, if you read that article through Google Translate, you'll probably find this part confusing (because there is some Sapir-Whorf weirdnesss going on):
Quote
For me, just being on the list is a victory. I'm not a politician, I'm a politician. It's a big difference.
This actually makes sense in portuguese (and spanish, and some other languages, probably). Basically the first time he uses the word politician, he is using the word as a noun, and the second time as an adjective. He is also using two different words for the verb "to be", which have different meanings in portuguese but translate to the same word in English.
The first word
sou means "I am" in a permanent sense (like in essence, identity or inmutable state) and it's often followed by a noun, while the second word
estou also means "I am" but in a more incidental way (like Aristotelian forms, or a status effect in an RPG) and is often followed by an adjective.
I think I got that - so it could be translated "I'm not just being a politician – I'm a political person." Right?
Interesting stuff, anyway!
Just read this today. Yeah, Tiririca is apparently doing a good job. He says he's under a lot of pressure because if something goes wrong, the media will jump at him and say something like, "look, the clown is ruining politics" and stuff.
Also, for those who don't know, we have a nice tradition of putting celebrities in positions of power, and they usually do their job very well, weird as it sounds. Once we elected a famous stylist and hairdresser, Clodovil Hernandes, just because people thought his gayish pose was funny (he is dead now, incidently. Had millions of dollars, a very very VERY nice mansion, and apparently had hired a personal pianist). More recently we also elected a retired soccer player called Romário, and from the many interviews he's done I can say he is a good politician, having denounced some corruption schemes involving the Pan-American games in 2007 and the world cup and the olympics.
Quote from: VERBL on September 20, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
I think I got that - so it could be translated "I'm not just being a politician – I'm a political person." Right?
Interesting stuff, anyway!
Actually is the other way around - he doesn't identify with being a political person, he's just doing politics at the moment.
Quote from: VERBL on September 20, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
I think I got that - so it could be translated "I'm not just being a politician – I'm a political person." Right?
Interesting stuff, anyway!
Or perhaps "
I am not a politician, I am
being a politician".
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: VERBL on September 20, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
I think I got that - so it could be translated "I'm not just being a politician – I'm a political person." Right?
Interesting stuff, anyway!
Or perhaps "I am not a politician, I am being a politician".
I like this guy.
Quote from: Sano on September 20, 2012, 04:24:54 PM
Just read this today. Yeah, Tiririca is apparently doing a good job. He says he's under a lot of pressure because if something goes wrong, the media will jump at him and say something like, "look, the clown is ruining politics" and stuff.
Also, for those who don't know, we have a nice tradition of putting celebrities in positions of power, and they usually do their job very well, weird as it sounds. Once we elected a famous stylist and hairdresser, Clodovil Hernandes, just because people thought his gayish pose was funny (he is dead now, incidently. Had millions of dollars, a very very VERY nice mansion, and apparently had hired a personal pianist). More recently we also elected a retired soccer player called Romário, and from the many interviews he's done I can say he is a good politician, having denounced some corruption schemes involving the Pan-American games in 2007 and the world cup and the olympics.
Quote from: VERBL on September 20, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
I think I got that - so it could be translated "I'm not just being a politician – I'm a political person." Right?
Interesting stuff, anyway!
Actually is the other way around - he doesn't identify with being a political person, he's just doing politics at the moment.
Is their effectiveness as political figures perhaps tied to the fact that they had sufficient (unrelated) wealth and influence prior to running for office that they are less concerned about satisfying the interests that often influence politicians with their financial support?
Nigel: Possibly, but I'd replace "wealth" with "popularity".
Since it seems to be a trend in most democracies that politicians are wealthier, even before they enter politics.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Sano on September 20, 2012, 04:24:54 PM
Just read this today. Yeah, Tiririca is apparently doing a good job. He says he's under a lot of pressure because if something goes wrong, the media will jump at him and say something like, "look, the clown is ruining politics" and stuff.
Also, for those who don't know, we have a nice tradition of putting celebrities in positions of power, and they usually do their job very well, weird as it sounds. Once we elected a famous stylist and hairdresser, Clodovil Hernandes, just because people thought his gayish pose was funny (he is dead now, incidently. Had millions of dollars, a very very VERY nice mansion, and apparently had hired a personal pianist). More recently we also elected a retired soccer player called Romário, and from the many interviews he's done I can say he is a good politician, having denounced some corruption schemes involving the Pan-American games in 2007 and the world cup and the olympics.
Quote from: VERBL on September 20, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
I think I got that - so it could be translated "I'm not just being a politician – I'm a political person." Right?
Interesting stuff, anyway!
Actually is the other way around - he doesn't identify with being a political person, he's just doing politics at the moment.
Is their effectiveness as political figures perhaps tied to the fact that they had sufficient (unrelated) wealth and influence prior to running for office that they are less concerned about satisfying the interests that often influence politicians with their financial support?
I think it's the opposite of that - except Clodovil, they were very poor at some point in life, which means they actually feel empathy for the poor and are inclined to ameliorate their situation. Thus Tiririca is working in the interest of clowns who can't even put their kids in school, for example.
Oh, I forgot to mention - we also elected a brazillian funk singer to congress or parliament, I think. Brazillian funk being - well, imagine a whole genre of music with lyrics as unimaginative as that Nicki Minaj song. Her nickname is "Mulher Melancia" - Watermelon Woman, so named due to the shape of her ass.
Quote from: Sano on September 20, 2012, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Sano on September 20, 2012, 04:24:54 PM
Just read this today. Yeah, Tiririca is apparently doing a good job. He says he's under a lot of pressure because if something goes wrong, the media will jump at him and say something like, "look, the clown is ruining politics" and stuff.
Also, for those who don't know, we have a nice tradition of putting celebrities in positions of power, and they usually do their job very well, weird as it sounds. Once we elected a famous stylist and hairdresser, Clodovil Hernandes, just because people thought his gayish pose was funny (he is dead now, incidently. Had millions of dollars, a very very VERY nice mansion, and apparently had hired a personal pianist). More recently we also elected a retired soccer player called Romário, and from the many interviews he's done I can say he is a good politician, having denounced some corruption schemes involving the Pan-American games in 2007 and the world cup and the olympics.
Quote from: VERBL on September 20, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
I think I got that - so it could be translated "I'm not just being a politician – I'm a political person." Right?
Interesting stuff, anyway!
Actually is the other way around - he doesn't identify with being a political person, he's just doing politics at the moment.
Is their effectiveness as political figures perhaps tied to the fact that they had sufficient (unrelated) wealth and influence prior to running for office that they are less concerned about satisfying the interests that often influence politicians with their financial support?
I think it's the opposite of that - except Clodovil, they were very poor at some point in life, which means they actually feel empathy for the poor and are inclined to ameliorate their situation. Thus Tiririca is working in the interest of clowns who can't even put their kids in school, for example.
Oh, I forgot to mention - we also elected a brazillian funk singer to congress or parliament, I think. Brazillian funk being - well, imagine a whole genre of music with lyrics as unimaginative as that Nicki Minaj song. Her nickname is "Mulher Melancia" - Watermelon Woman, so named due to the shape of her ass.
Nice!
It didn't even occur to me that poor or formerly poor people could get elected, because that doesn't happen in the US.
Quote from: Sano on September 20, 2012, 04:57:26 PM
Her nickname is "Mulher Melancia" - Watermelon Woman, so named due to the shape of her ass.
:googles:
:peedee:
:also googles:
:aaa:
we need more of that in our governing body, stat!
I like two things about that:
1. that Brazil is able to appreciate a nice ass when it sees one
2. that the fact this woman is seen as a sex symbol is not blocking her from the political arena. Hopefully, it will also not define her political career... though it seems that Brazil is very different from the US in that respect, so it probably won't be a problem at all.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
I like two things about that:
1. that Brazil is able to appreciate a nice ass when it sees one
2. that the fact this woman is seen as a sex symbol is not blocking her from the political arena. Hopefully, it will also not define her political career... though it seems that Brazil is very different from the US in that respect, so it probably won't be a problem at all.
The thing is, unfortunately, as far as I know she's a terrible bigot. One thing is having been poor for some time, which makes you, you know, a bit more human and understanding of other people's feelings. Another completely different thing is being born in a pseudo-middle-class where every song is disturbingly disrespectful to women and then buying into that AND buying into the culture of "I wanna be rich so I can shit on everyone else's heads", and then
actually becoming rich. AND THEN becoming so absurdly famous that thousands of people actually want to imitate you. :horrormirth:
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:31:41 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
I like two things about that:
1. that Brazil is able to appreciate a nice ass when it sees one
2. that the fact this woman is seen as a sex symbol is not blocking her from the political arena. Hopefully, it will also not define her political career... though it seems that Brazil is very different from the US in that respect, so it probably won't be a problem at all.
The thing is, unfortunately, as far as I know she's a terrible bigot. One thing is having been poor for some time, which makes you, you know, a bit more human and understanding of other people's feelings. Another completely different thing is being born in a pseudo-middle-class where every song is disturbingly disrespectful to women and then buying into that AND buying into the culture of "I wanna be rich so I can shit on everyone else's heads", and then actually becoming rich. AND THEN becoming so absurdly famous that thousands of people actually want to imitate you. :horrormirth:
That's actually distressingly common. Poor people who become rich later in their lives often have this weird resentment towards the rest of humanity. It's like she thinks the rest of the world deserves to suffer for letting such a nice, hard working person like her grow up poor.
See also: Margareth Thatcher
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:31:41 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
I like two things about that:
1. that Brazil is able to appreciate a nice ass when it sees one
2. that the fact this woman is seen as a sex symbol is not blocking her from the political arena. Hopefully, it will also not define her political career... though it seems that Brazil is very different from the US in that respect, so it probably won't be a problem at all.
The thing is, unfortunately, as far as I know she's a terrible bigot. One thing is having been poor for some time, which makes you, you know, a bit more human and understanding of other people's feelings. Another completely different thing is being born in a pseudo-middle-class where every song is disturbingly disrespectful to women and then buying into that AND buying into the culture of "I wanna be rich so I can shit on everyone else's heads", and then actually becoming rich. AND THEN becoming so absurdly famous that thousands of people actually want to imitate you. :horrormirth:
Ahhhhhh! That seems like a huge problem! :(
Quote from: Lord Cataplanga on September 21, 2012, 02:32:47 AM
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:31:41 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
I like two things about that:
1. that Brazil is able to appreciate a nice ass when it sees one
2. that the fact this woman is seen as a sex symbol is not blocking her from the political arena. Hopefully, it will also not define her political career... though it seems that Brazil is very different from the US in that respect, so it probably won't be a problem at all.
The thing is, unfortunately, as far as I know she's a terrible bigot. One thing is having been poor for some time, which makes you, you know, a bit more human and understanding of other people's feelings. Another completely different thing is being born in a pseudo-middle-class where every song is disturbingly disrespectful to women and then buying into that AND buying into the culture of "I wanna be rich so I can shit on everyone else's heads", and then actually becoming rich. AND THEN becoming so absurdly famous that thousands of people actually want to imitate you. :horrormirth:
That's actually distressingly common. Poor people who become rich later in their lives often have this weird resentment towards the rest of humanity. It's like she thinks the rest of the world deserves to suffer for letting such a nice, hard working person like her grow up poor.
See also: Margareth Thatcher
:lol: See at least one person here for the same effect, too.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 21, 2012, 08:17:11 AM
Quote from: Lord Cataplanga on September 21, 2012, 02:32:47 AM
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:31:41 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
I like two things about that:
1. that Brazil is able to appreciate a nice ass when it sees one
2. that the fact this woman is seen as a sex symbol is not blocking her from the political arena. Hopefully, it will also not define her political career... though it seems that Brazil is very different from the US in that respect, so it probably won't be a problem at all.
The thing is, unfortunately, as far as I know she's a terrible bigot. One thing is having been poor for some time, which makes you, you know, a bit more human and understanding of other people's feelings. Another completely different thing is being born in a pseudo-middle-class where every song is disturbingly disrespectful to women and then buying into that AND buying into the culture of "I wanna be rich so I can shit on everyone else's heads", and then actually becoming rich. AND THEN becoming so absurdly famous that thousands of people actually want to imitate you. :horrormirth:
That's actually distressingly common. Poor people who become rich later in their lives often have this weird resentment towards the rest of humanity. It's like she thinks the rest of the world deserves to suffer for letting such a nice, hard working person like her grow up poor.
See also: Margareth Thatcher
:lol: See at least one person here for the same effect, too.
Don't be hatin' my diamond grill.
Quote from: 🐳🐙🐳🐙 on October 04, 2012, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 21, 2012, 08:17:11 AM
Quote from: Lord Cataplanga on September 21, 2012, 02:32:47 AM
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:31:41 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on September 20, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
I like two things about that:
1. that Brazil is able to appreciate a nice ass when it sees one
2. that the fact this woman is seen as a sex symbol is not blocking her from the political arena. Hopefully, it will also not define her political career... though it seems that Brazil is very different from the US in that respect, so it probably won't be a problem at all.
The thing is, unfortunately, as far as I know she's a terrible bigot. One thing is having been poor for some time, which makes you, you know, a bit more human and understanding of other people's feelings. Another completely different thing is being born in a pseudo-middle-class where every song is disturbingly disrespectful to women and then buying into that AND buying into the culture of "I wanna be rich so I can shit on everyone else's heads", and then actually becoming rich. AND THEN becoming so absurdly famous that thousands of people actually want to imitate you. :horrormirth:
That's actually distressingly common. Poor people who become rich later in their lives often have this weird resentment towards the rest of humanity. It's like she thinks the rest of the world deserves to suffer for letting such a nice, hard working person like her grow up poor.
See also: Margareth Thatcher
:lol: See at least one person here for the same effect, too.
Don't be hatin' my diamond grill.
:lol: Is it helpful that I have no idea who you are, or if I know you?
You could be some guy who's been gone for five years and just came back, for all I know. It's been going around.
Whale-octopus-whale-octopus is Dingo, I believe.
Didn't DP come around again a couple weeks ago? :lulz: And then promptly disappeared again?
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on October 04, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Whale-octopus-whale-octopus is Dingo, I believe.
Didn't DP come around again a couple weeks ago? :lulz: And then promptly disappeared again?
I believe so. In fact, if I recall, he was only here long enough to make an ass of himself.