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#16
Quote from: Freeky on August 01, 2016, 04:31:57 AM
QuoteBut, considering the legacy of Discordians, I thought the point of a discordian forum was to consider many types of view points rather than seek the "correct" or "ethical" answer.


There is just so much wrong here, and every time I see this sentence it makes me wanna scream and headbutt someone to death.

:oops: you're right! I really shouldn't be defending my position based on an arbitrary assumption I have about "Discordianism"

I choose to stand ignorantly by my position and say that our bodies are actually an assemblage of cells, living and breathing together - I, a walking sack of blood, am a conglomerate of little creatures evolved over eons to symbiotically co-habitate. My body is a squirming tower of molecular animals randomly generated by the quirks of perpetual chemical reactions, and they probably don't care what kind of porn I watch. 
#17
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 01, 2016, 04:23:53 AM
All absolute beliefs are stupid.

This sounds like a zenarchist's koan
#18
You are right, the rate of inflation will always be proportionate to the population, but wouldn't the value of a product or resource stay the same? I think the ability to make one's own Jenkem might contain too many economic variables (like counterfeit bills).

In order for human shit to be a viable currency, we would need to figure out a system in which people do not own the shit they expunge - It needs to be redistributed according the values of products and services people sell.
#19
Quote from: Pergamos on July 31, 2016, 09:35:26 PM
I think we need a currency based on Jenkem.  Watch the rich fuckers hoard literal shit.

This is a really great idea~! I enjoy imagining blurring the lines between banks and the sanitation department. But how would such a currency avoid inflation?
#20
Quote from: Fernando Poo on July 31, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
I didn't say that they don't limit arousals. I said they didn't have to evolve to do so. It's not very surprising that a system made up of people who are disgusted by sexual abuse would be biased against sexual abuse.

Quote from: CBXTN on July 31, 2016, 05:13:13 PM

The universe has allowed for the possibility of organisms to influence and manipulate other organisms, whether by digesting them, inseminating them, etc. - from molecular to macro. I'm afraid if I apply a hierarchy of morality upon a nihilistic biology, I'm gonna slip on a banana peel.
 

No, Nihilists are the ones that think it's pointless to go out of their way to not step on the banana peel, and so they fall on their asses over and over again.

Biology is not Nihilistic. It is doing all the work, and making your existence possible. It gave you the ability to create meaning, and you chose to waste that on an ideology that is based on moral laziness. You're spineless inability to stand up for a set of moral principles is caused by cowardice. Ordinarily, I would attribute this to tween arrogance. But, you said you were already out of college in your Introduction, which means you're probably old enough to know better. As someone who went through your problem as a phase, I assure you that it is due to an ego the size of Texas, and a habit of compartmentalization at the first sign of a threat to your belief, and magical thinking. You assume that because your ideology explains and accounts for all, that it is infallible. You are wrong. You are not special. You are not a philosopher (No reason why you'd want to be one). We have seen plenty like you, and we are not impressed.

The world doesn't care about you, and it has nothing to do with Nihilism. It has to do with the fact that you can't accept that sexual abuse and manipulation are fucking wrong.

So go slip on a fucking banana peel.

I'll take your criticism, it's ok. Yes, you are right, I have slipped on many banana peels and will continue to do so. And yes, It's true that every type of viewpoint is both true and false and everything in between.

But, considering the legacy of Discordians, I thought the point of a discordian forum was to consider many types of view points rather than seek the "correct" or "ethical" answer. My view point is going to be very wrong to some people, but I do enjoy trying to think about issues in a different way than mainstream intellectuals.

(And in response to Mesozoic Mister Nigel, personally, I do not condone non-consenting sex/abuse between two people/animals - but I am interested in exploring the crevices of why these things are considered ok/bad)
#21
Quote from: Fernando Poo on July 31, 2016, 03:47:54 PM

Quote from: CBXTN on July 31, 2016, 04:36:38 AM
Speaking of animals, free will, and consent - it seems to be common to talk about the responsibilities of the oppressor. As if the oppressor should be more mindful of the thing it oppresses...

but what are the responsibility of things that are being dominated? And, what forms of consent do our biological bodies give that our consciousness do not? Sure, the zebra does not want to be killed by the lion, but the cells of the zebra evolved in symbiosis the cells of the lion. Essentially, the zebra's cellular memory has given Consent to Feed. Likewise, the human has evolved to manipulate organisms around it - so the cells of that which we influence have already primordially consented, even though the consciousnesses may not have consented.

To go bring it back to the discussion of pornography; the human has evolved to fap at anything which may arouse them, and the government has evolved to limit the kinds of socially acceptable arousals. It is a symbiosis, and we are trapped within the sociological-sexual evolution.


What the actual fuck?  :lulz:

The government didn't have to evolve to limit acceptable arousals. Most people understand that being accepting of sexual arousal from kids, or non-consenting animals, leads to the abuse thereof.

You, apparently, have no regard for that fact, which makes you a disgusting freak.  :lulz:


I think Prelate Diogenes Shandor said it quite succinctly:

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 31, 2016, 05:39:54 AM
They're all self-assembling blobs of hydrocarbons

The universe has allowed for the possibility of organisms to influence and manipulate other organisms, whether by digesting them, inseminating them, etc. - from molecular to macro. I'm afraid if I apply a hierarchy of morality upon a nihilistic biology, I'm gonna slip on a banana peel.

I believe governments have evolved to limit arousals. Especially the U.S. government, which has a Christian foundation. Remember that Puritans established many of the original colonies, and they were obsessed with sexual repression whose legacy continues to this day.

Dare I say, governments are systems which impose a set of values as "impartial". Those values are constructed by the larger culture and a few wealthy inidividuals. Utah is a huge Latter-Day Saint state, no wonder they passed such a law.   
#22
I just did, but no luck :/
#23
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 31, 2016, 05:52:33 AM

Indeed. This was all supposed to happen in 2012. According to mistranslations of the ancient Mayans at any rate.

(Seriously, what estimate do you guys give of the odds that a Trump presidency would cause the literal end of the world? I think it would put us at least back into Cold War era territory with regard to chances of a world-ending man-made cataclysm)

A trump presidency, like a laxative, would only encourage the natural progression of a large scale violent uprising across the country.
A clinton presidency would be another 4 years of constipation.
#24
I'm gonna formally introduce myself since I'm a bit more than a Zoophilia Advocate;

My name is Cbxtn (pronounced ceh-BASH-chin). Synchronistically, after St. Sebastian. Most of my friends know me as Baxton ("peace town" [paxton]), and my family knows me as Alexander (I'm going through the alphabet [I have my eyes set on Daxamander after I've finished the tasks of Cbxtn {ZYXONAN here I come}]).

I've been familiar with Discordianism since college, but never got involved in the community (until now). I'm a highly spiritual person and believe in a divinely ineffable entity which encompasses all things. I used to call my practice Philoepistemontolosophy, but then I changed it to Hypo-Gnosticism. Recently, I saw the the beauty and truth in Christianity and the words of brother Yeshua, so now I call my practice Venereal Christianity. Venus Christ is the Gentle Unseen Hand that is within us all. Remember, Venus and Eris are sisters and are two halves of the same coin.

I'm a monk and I'm traveling across the U.S. writing a book of poetry and other stuff. Currently heading to Chicago. Let me know if you wanna have a conversational beverage with me ^_^ . I've never hitchhiked but I've always wanted to.

Additionally, I'm in the process of forming an anarchist monastery called The Martyrs of the Holy Nameless. There are about three of us, and each are doing our own thing. Really, it is a decentralized monastic collective which spiritually affirms each persons individual practice. We practice self-denial and unconditional giving as a way of building peace.

All in all, I am seeking to connect with other absurdist anarchic thinkers. It is true - we plant the subtle seeds of confusion, and from those seeds grow the Revolution (as in, to revolve, or circulate, circulation, like breathing).

(Also, I'm seeking Professor Cramulus. How can I find him?)
#25
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 31, 2016, 03:12:37 AM

Do you think it's ever appropriate to hold another animal responsible for its actions, or to try to teach them to modify their behavior?

Being an animal doesn't negate free will.


Speaking of animals, free will, and consent - it seems to be common to talk about the responsibilities of the oppressor. As if the oppressor should be more mindful of the thing it oppresses...

but what are the responsibility of things that are being dominated? And, what forms of consent do our biological bodies give that our consciousness do not? Sure, the zebra does not want to be killed by the lion, but the cells of the zebra evolved in symbiosis the cells of the lion. Essentially, the zebra's cellular memory has given Consent to Feed. Likewise, the human has evolved to manipulate organisms around it - so the cells of that which we influence have already primordially consented, even though the consciousnesses may not have consented.

To go bring it back to the discussion of pornography; the human has evolved to fap at anything which may arouse them, and the government has evolved to limit the kinds of socially acceptable arousals. It is a symbiosis, and we are trapped within the sociological-sexual evolution.
#26
Principia Discussion / Re: Neoism
July 31, 2016, 03:41:10 AM
it's got some cute fecal matter:

"Monty Cantsin lives on and on because he never existed, just as no guru, no king, no pop star has ever existed."
#27
Principia Discussion / Neoism
July 31, 2016, 02:25:53 AM
Can anyone give me a first degree primer or have experience in neoist thought/praxis? Or maybe anti-neoist shit? Just another label of a thing which affirms there is no box?

http://neoism.info/
#28
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 30, 2016, 06:19:43 PM
Quote from: CBXTN on July 30, 2016, 06:07:41 AM
I'm imagining a future where collective humanity starts becoming so scientifically advance that it would lead itself into existential paranoia.

We, collectively, begin recognizing that our material reality has no exact specificity. We come to a point where we cannot measure quantities and lengths; a society that realizes a table is not 1 meter long, but actually 1.002735483946493493644894 meters long and still unable to grasp its exact length.

The future is a society which has lost its footing in semantics. We begin to lose sense of qualitative words such as adjectives. Is a movie exciting, or is our nervous system creating the excitement within us, or is it found in the photons colliding into our retinas? What exactly is this sensation we call "exciting"?

The future is a society that recognizes biology on a very intimate level:

-snip-
***

Eventually humanity goes insane in the chaotic void of existential anguish/mania. Only a few survive a mass suicide - The spiritually ascended and the hopelessly ignorant.

Totally, that's why all molecular and cellular biologists have wilted into puddles of existential angst and just can't function.

Oh wait, nope, that's not it. Turns out that problem goes away after you leave intellectual adolescence.

I might still be an adolescent - some nights I rise in the middle of the night panicked and anxious about why I'm in my own body, what exactly is my body made of, what is it I'm experiencing and why is it that things are infinitely small and large, and other general questions of reality and purpose(lessness).

It freaks me out and I hope it calms down. Some part of me wishes I could communicate the absurdity to my grandparents, but they are too busy watching the Democratic National Convention on television.
#29
I'm imagining a future where collective humanity starts becoming so scientifically advance that it would lead itself into existential paranoia.

We, collectively, begin recognizing that our material reality has no exact specificity. We come to a point where we cannot measure quantities and lengths; a society that realizes a table is not 1 meter long, but actually 1.002735483946493493644894 meters long and still unable to grasp its exact length.

The future is a society which has lost its footing in semantics. We begin to lose sense of qualitative words such as adjectives. Is a movie exciting, or is our nervous system creating the excitement within us, or is it found in the photons colliding into our retinas? What exactly is this sensation we call "exciting"?

The future is a society that recognizes biology on a very intimate level:

You might discover that your gangly arms,
that nubby twig protruding from your groin,
or those lactating mounds swelling on your chest are repugnantly bizarre.
You might discover that the rubbery sheath you call "skin"
is actually a host of cells, living and breathing together -
You, a walking sack of blood, are a conglomerate of little creatures
evolved over eons to symbiotically cohabitate.
You, covered in a protein filament called "hair",
are a squirming tower of molecular animals
randomly generated by the quirks of perpetual chemical reactions

Don't ponder too deeply that "plants" absorb carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen.
You might discover that air is not the space between bodies,
but rather, a connective tissue - a thick web of matter eternally flowing bodies into bodies.
Your freaky alien form is not autonomous.
It has been shaped and twisted in a decadent symbiosis 
with other festering organisms you previously considered separate from yourself;
protons, electrons, nitrogen, sodium, magnesium, sulfur, iron, water, soil, glucose, viruses, bacteria, algea, fungus, amphibians, fowl, forests, dogs and cattle. Organs within organs within organs wrought in a cauldron of magnetic currents and gravitational pressure, heated by the unceasing thermonuclear eruption of a helium ball.

What a strange zoo imprisoned to an abominable mutant.
We were not caught by the horror- we were born into the horror.
"God" is the unimaginable behemoth
of creatures multiplying inside creatures multiplying inside creatures.


***

Eventually humanity goes insane in the chaotic void of existential anguish/mania. Only a few survive a mass suicide - The spiritually ascended and the hopelessly ignorant.

   
#30
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 30, 2016, 04:42:49 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 29, 2016, 09:34:27 PM
We've seen quite a range of intro posts before but damn.

Yeah, this was in the top 10, with a bullet.   :lulz:

Aww~! I'm glad to make a lovely first impression. I'm super aroused by the various ideas lofting through this forum, so I definitely wanted to jump in.

The politics of paraphilias is a current interest. Often they r great places to find where definitions break down. In another thread about pornography, I posted a tidbit from wikipedia: "Wisconsin U.S.A. (2007) - Bryan James Hathaway was convicted for having sex with a dead deer. The court case raised some interesting legal issues because the statute prohibits sex with animals, but not with carcasses. The defense raised the issue that if a dead animal was an animal, at what point would it cease to be an animal?"

That last sentence shows a peculiar question. Indeed, when is a dead animal no longer an animal and just an assemblage of organ? At what point is it considered dirt? Perhaps we could broaden our vocabulary to include at least 39 different types of decay.