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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on February 18, 2010, 05:18:44 PM

Title: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on February 18, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html

"According to the filings in Blake J Robbins v Lower Merion School District (PA) et al, the laptops issued to high-school students in the well-heeled Philly suburb have webcams that can be covertly activated by the schools' administrators, who have used this facility to spy on students and even their families. The issue came to light when the Robbins's child was disciplined for "improper behavior in his home" and the Vice Principal used a photo taken by the webcam as evidence. The suit is a class action, brought on behalf of all students issued with these machines."
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Freeky on February 18, 2010, 05:22:14 PM
 :aaa: :aww:  :eek:

What in hell were they thinking?
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: hooplala on February 18, 2010, 05:28:21 PM
"improper behavior in his home"


WTF?????
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Richter on February 18, 2010, 05:32:20 PM
Dancing around your room in your boxer shorts is forbidden by The Administrator.

In idle times, all students should either study further or sit in pious fear and meditate on the Glorious Authority.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 05:44:27 PM
 :lulz:

So...Is anyone still puzzled as to why I wish to destroy the world?

:lulz:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: bds on February 18, 2010, 05:46:36 PM
What the almighty fuck?

I just shat three cups of coffee. Including the cups. No kidding.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Jasper on February 18, 2010, 06:06:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 05:44:27 PM
:lulz:

So...Is anyone still puzzled as to why I wish to destroy the world?

:lulz:

How can I help?
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: hooplala on February 18, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
Is it possible this story is BS?  It seems too crazy to be true...

What's that, Blast From The Past Hoopla?

Quote from: Hoopla on December 14, 2009, 09:24:11 PM
Your optimism amuses me.

...shit.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on February 18, 2010, 06:18:44 PM
I'm not surprised, it was only a matter of time.

Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
Quote from: Khara on Hiatus on February 18, 2010, 06:18:44 PM
I'm not surprised, it was only a matter of time.



And this is only the beginning!   :lulz:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dalek on February 18, 2010, 06:26:29 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 18, 2010, 05:28:21 PM
"improper behavior in his home"


WTF?????

The Administrator is watching YOU masturbate!
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dalek on February 18, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
Also
WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT?!?!
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: DALEKK on February 18, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
Also
WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT?!?!

Welcome to the new century, kid.   :lol:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Bella on February 18, 2010, 06:33:49 PM
They should all be fired, then thrown into jail.......let's see how they like living under constant scrutiny by authority.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dalek on February 18, 2010, 06:35:35 PM
The comments had a few good points in them. Filming underage children, while they undress. That sounds like CP to me.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bella on February 18, 2010, 06:33:49 PM
They should all be fired, then thrown into jail.......let's see how they like living under constant scrutiny by authority.

I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:44:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bella on February 18, 2010, 06:33:49 PM
They should all be fired, then thrown into jail.......let's see how they like living under constant scrutiny by authority.

I find your lack of faith...disturbing.

agreed.
after all, everyone belongs to everyone else....
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 18, 2010, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: Bella on February 18, 2010, 06:33:49 PM
They should all be fired, then thrown into jail.......let's see how they like living under constant scrutiny by authority.

Why?

This school is doing a better job preparing kids for the future than any others I've heard of.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Template on February 18, 2010, 07:51:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 18, 2010, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: Bella on February 18, 2010, 06:33:49 PM
They should all be fired, then thrown into jail.......let's see how they like living under constant scrutiny by authority.

Why?

This school is doing a better job preparing kids for the future than any others I've heard of.


:horrormirth:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 18, 2010, 08:11:31 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 18, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
Is it possible this story is BS?  It seems too crazy to be true...

Boingboing links to a court document, if its a fake its a very good one.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: The Wizard on February 18, 2010, 08:47:30 PM
Unsurprising, but still fucked up. Of course it's not like every other authority in the world  is itching to do the same damn thing. If they haven't already.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 18, 2010, 10:31:25 PM
My law student friend says it's all the buzz on the law blogs right now.

Also, does this guy look like a perv to you?
(http://www.lmsd.org/media/site_img/cache/8197.jpg)

http://www.lmsd.org/sections/about/default.php?t=distinfo&p=welcome

Another article http://americasright.com/?p=3159
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Jasper on February 18, 2010, 10:40:39 PM
That guy looks like he gets off on sticking his finger in people's ears.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 18, 2010, 11:00:19 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 18, 2010, 10:40:39 PM
That guy looks like he gets off on sticking his finger in people's ears.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dr. Paes on February 18, 2010, 11:05:39 PM
 :lulz: at whole thread.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Triple Zero on February 19, 2010, 12:21:28 AM
they should screw whoever is behind this over for all that's there to screw them over for. damn.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: PeregrineBF on February 19, 2010, 02:40:55 AM
It's the logical continuation of some previous stuff really. Schools have been punishing kids for activities outside of school for some time now, and surveillance has been increasing at the same time. This is just taking both aspects to their conclusion: watch the kids all the time, everywhere, and punish them for it.
Come on little girl you've been very, very naughty. Principle Pedo has the tapes to prove it, and is going to give you a spanking.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 19, 2010, 02:56:50 AM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 18, 2010, 10:52:45 PM
I'm sorry here people, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say:

"feck me that fellow looks like a peado!" shifty unsmiling eyes, fake mongoloid* looking features, and overly large forehead. It's the look of a nonce. some people have a gaydar. I have a pedar. It's been IRL proven six times to zero wrong hits now, and I have no love to prove it again.

*like someone took a mongoloid face and took all the innocent love out of it. I do not mean this as any offense to mongoloids either.

I was pretty much assuming that from the moment I heard he was watching kids in their home.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Reginald Ret on February 19, 2010, 04:02:25 PM
Someone should start spreading the word about Mad Science! amongst kids everywhere.
I'm thinking a few recipes sent their way.

mutter mutter molotov mutter mutter thermite mutter mutter ductape mutter mutter overpowered laserpointer mutter mutter trained attack hampsters mutter mutt.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Richter on February 19, 2010, 04:08:33 PM
An enterprising youngun might start changing pants, or handling plastic baggies full of  basil or white powder in front of said cameras.  the article mentioned the "Camera On" light going on now and then, which would be a good tip off to start the show.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Triple Zero on February 19, 2010, 04:16:05 PM
wouldnt s/he just get into a heapfucktruckload of trouble, regardless of whether it was real or not?

also, Oregano.

though you couldnt tell the difference on a webcam anyways
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Freeky on February 19, 2010, 04:19:48 PM
Quote from: Regret on February 19, 2010, 04:02:25 PM
Someone should start spreading the word about Mad Science! amongst kids everywhere.
I'm thinking a few recipes sent their way.

mutter mutter molotov mutter mutter thermite mutter mutter ductape mutter mutter overpowered laserpointer mutter mutter trained attack hampsters mutter mutt.

Nikelodeon's cartoon The Penguins of Madagascar had one episode where one of the penguins made a monster. At the end, the others were all like "Now you've learned your lesson, haven't you? MAD SCIENCE ARE BADD!!!" And I said "FUCK YOU, TELEVISION! :argh!: "
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Richter on February 19, 2010, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 19, 2010, 04:16:05 PM
wouldnt s/he just get into a heapfucktruckload of trouble, regardless of whether it was real or not?

also, Oregano.

though you couldnt tell the difference on a webcam anyways

Exactly  :). 
If the admin tips their hands, they call police, or push for a drug test (Which, if you're performign the action right, and not actually using real drugs, comes up negative).  Kind of useless now that they KNOW what they're doing, but getting them to admit WHY they suspect. 
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 19, 2010, 06:46:54 PM
http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/

That's a story by Cory Doctorow who writes near future SciFi, set in a school with that sort of approach.  it includes a fair amount of currently useable countermeasures.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dalek on February 20, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on February 19, 2010, 06:46:54 PM
http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/

That's a story by Cory Doctorow who writes near future SciFi, set in a school with that sort of approach.  it includes a fair amount of currently useable countermeasures.

Thanks for the link! I'm reading it now(thank god I have a PSP, and don't have to torture myself sitting infront of the computer for hours). Still on page 54 and it's pretty awesome!
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 20, 2010, 08:56:09 PM
A likely story.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 20, 2010, 09:26:27 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 20, 2010, 05:48:59 PM
current news on story is that the school claim that they only turned on 42 laptops remotely to check if they were stolen or not and claims unjust outcry?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/20/AR2010022000679.html?hpid=moreheadlines

also
QuoteOne family alleges a school official mistook a piece of candy in a webcam photo for a pill and thought the youth was selling drugs.

waaaah!



I love how they think that makes it better.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Triple Zero on February 20, 2010, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 20, 2010, 08:56:09 PM
A likely story.

Sounds like something AWS:OM could ramp up a notch? :)
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 21, 2010, 12:01:37 AM
Quote from: DALEKK on February 20, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on February 19, 2010, 06:46:54 PM
http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/

That's a story by Cory Doctorow who writes near future SciFi, set in a school with that sort of approach.  it includes a fair amount of currently useable countermeasures.

Thanks for the link! I'm reading it now(thank god I have a PSP, and don't have to torture myself sitting infront of the computer for hours). Still on page 54 and it's pretty awesome!

I really enjoyed it.  He has a bunch of novels free for download on his site.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2010, 07:33:51 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 20, 2010, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 20, 2010, 08:56:09 PM
A likely story.

Sounds like something AWS:OM could ramp up a notch? :)

That's not a bad idea, and I would certainly hope so!
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Richter on February 21, 2010, 02:13:44 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 20, 2010, 09:28:10 PM
dig that hole deeper fellahs. Just how long were they looking before they snapped that screener? Or were they using those magic 'activates when something looks like crack' webcams?

Drug recognition protocols?  Maybe easier than faces.

I just want to see this sort of BS STOMPED.  Brnd the fuckers pedophiles, and throw them to theconvicts.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on February 21, 2010, 10:41:55 PM
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/FBI-Investigates-Webcam-Spy-Allegations-Against-School-451724/

:lord:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 21, 2010, 11:13:20 PM
Quote from: Annabel the Destroyer on February 21, 2010, 10:41:55 PM
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/FBI-Investigates-Webcam-Spy-Allegations-Against-School-451724/

:lord:

OWNED.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2010, 01:47:09 AM
Quote from: Annabel the Destroyer on February 21, 2010, 10:41:55 PM
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/FBI-Investigates-Webcam-Spy-Allegations-Against-School-451724/

:lord:

This is great, I hope they nail them hard.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dr. Paes on February 22, 2010, 03:23:10 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Liam Stoat on February 22, 2010, 09:36:52 AM
the fycking big hole in their story is YOU DON'T NEED A WEBCAM TO PHYSICALLY LOCATE A LAPTOP. have they not heard of GPS tags?
If not, I suggest NOT TELLING THEM ABOUT THEM.
They'd have them turned on all the time and use them for following students D:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2010, 03:27:45 PM
Yeah, tell them that and there'll be like a 500% increase in suspicious white vans, clown suits, bags of sweets and nylon rope sales.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Cramulus on February 22, 2010, 04:15:19 PM
fucking shitbag hell!

The school's handling of this is just pure horrormirth. They're referring to the spycams with the euphemism "security software" .  :lulz:


By the year 2030, the word "security" will have a totally different meaning. People won't even use it to refer to protecting things, just observing and controlling them.


The Panopticon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon#The_panopticon_as_metaphor), the notion that authority is always watching, is a tool for control and discipline. I wish the public was better educated about this - this surveillance state thing was invented to keep prisons in check.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2010, 04:16:30 PM
Foucault, thou art proven right!

Again.

Bastard.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dr. Paes on February 22, 2010, 04:32:57 PM
:horrormirth:

Quote from: Cramulus on February 22, 2010, 04:15:19 PM
fucking shitbag hell!
This.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on February 22, 2010, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Liam Stoat on February 22, 2010, 09:36:52 AM
the fycking big hole in their story is YOU DON'T NEED A WEBCAM TO PHYSICALLY LOCATE A LAPTOP. have they not heard of GPS tags?
'

Actually, in a lot of these security tracking programs that is a standard feature and it has caught a number of thieves. However, using it to spy on children is probably not a purpose the programmers had in mind.

edit: typo
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 23, 2010, 01:21:11 AM
I've worked with tracking software, never seen one that needed a webcam.  An IP address and a warrant does the trick.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 24, 2010, 03:56:16 PM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/WebcamGate-Affects-Schools-Nationwide.html

This seems widespread.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mangrove on February 25, 2010, 06:03:47 PM
The Orwellian aspects of this case are noted.

What I am not understanding, is why these laptops were left 'on' and 'open' all the time. When I'm done using my computer, I switch the damn thing off and walk away. Back in the days when I had a laptop, when I was done using it, I switched it off and closed the screen down

Am I missing something here? If so, I'm reverting to a hypoglycemia defense and will go and get something to eat.

Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2010, 06:21:37 PM
What you don't understand is that the portal to the all-powerful internet MUST BE KEPT OPEN AT ALL TIME! HOW ELSE ARE WE TO SEE THE LATEST FACEBOOK UPDATES AND YOUTUBE COMMENTS?  THIS 'TURNING OFF' YOU SPEAK OF IS A BLASPHEMY AGAINST SOCIAL CULTURE AND WILL RUIN YOUR PEER STANDING! 
TWEET ME BACK!
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mangrove on February 25, 2010, 06:33:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 25, 2010, 06:21:37 PM
What you don't understand is that the portal to the all-powerful internet MUST BE KEPT OPEN AT ALL TIME! HOW ELSE ARE WE TO SEE THE LATEST FACEBOOK UPDATES AND YOUTUBE COMMENTS?  THIS 'TURNING OFF' YOU SPEAK OF IS A BLASPHEMY AGAINST SOCIAL CULTURE AND WILL RUIN YOUR PEER STANDING! 
TWEET ME BACK!

:lulz:

Clearly, the authoritarian pervs who came up with the laptop camera caper had based their plan on this very idea.

Teacher: Man, those fucking kids are never off their damn phones/i-pods!!
Perv: ohhhh......wait a minute!  :fap:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2010, 12:07:54 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on February 25, 2010, 06:03:47 PM
The Orwellian aspects of this case are noted.

What I am not understanding, is why these laptops were left 'on' and 'open' all the time. When I'm done using my computer, I switch the damn thing off and walk away. Back in the days when I had a laptop, when I was done using it, I switched it off and closed the screen down

Am I missing something here? If so, I'm reverting to a hypoglycemia defense and will go and get something to eat.



They probably weren't left open and on ALL the time, but a lot of people, including me, will get up and take breaks from the computer without shutting it down, or will leave a chat program open while I do other stuff, or go get something to eat. And, honestly, I have never thought twice about using my laptop in bed, or computing in my underwear. Or buck naked, in the summers.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2010, 09:14:23 PM
 :horrormirth:

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/25/school-administrator.html

QuoteA few weeks ago, Frontline premiered a documentary called "Digital Nation". In one segment, the vice-principle of Intermediate School 339, Bronx, NY, Dan Ackerman, demonstrates how he "remotely monitors" the students' laptops for "inappropriate use". (his demonstration begins at 4:36)

He says "They don't even realize we are watching," "I always like to mess with them and take a picture," and "9 times out of 10, THEY DUCK OUT OF THE WAY."

He says the students "use it like it's a mirror" and he watches. He says 6th and 7th graders have their cameras activated. It looks like the same software used by the Pennsylvania school that is being investigated for covertly spying on students through their webcams.

The shocking thing about this is that the privacy concerns were not even mentioned in the Frontline documentary!
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Triple Zero on February 26, 2010, 10:41:52 PM
For anyone interested, this blog post (and also the comments somewhat) seems to give the facts about this incident:

http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html

on the one hand's it's not literally as bad as some of the media make it out to be, but on the other hand, it's still pretty bad. in short, the capability has been there, but it's not proven that any shots of kids in their homes have been taken, or something.


either way, if I were still in highschool, and they gave me a laptop like that, I'd probably start doing all my homework in my bedroom, while butt naked. because then they would be FUCKED FOREVER if they ever tried something.

Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 26, 2010, 11:08:31 PM
Its possible the school in question hasn't spied on kids with the stuff, but there have been a few documentaries (including one mentioned in your link) where administrators in other parts of the country admit that they did that.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2010, 01:15:16 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 26, 2010, 10:41:52 PM
For anyone interested, this blog post (and also the comments somewhat) seems to give the facts about this incident:

http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html

on the one hand's it's not literally as bad as some of the media make it out to be, but on the other hand, it's still pretty bad. in short, the capability has been there, but it's not proven that any shots of kids in their homes have been taken, or something.


either way, if I were still in highschool, and they gave me a laptop like that, I'd probably start doing all my homework in my bedroom, while butt naked. because then they would be FUCKED FOREVER if they ever tried something.


YES  :lol:

Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2010, 01:22:18 AM
All I know is that if my kids' school tries to issue laptops I will be informing them that they can stick their laptops up their asses.

What bothers me especially is that the laptops were MANDATORY and that using one you yourself owned was FORBIDDEN.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Iason Ouabache on February 27, 2010, 07:45:39 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 26, 2010, 10:41:52 PM
For anyone interested, this blog post (and also the comments somewhat) seems to give the facts about this incident:

http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html

on the one hand's it's not literally as bad as some of the media make it out to be, but on the other hand, it's still pretty bad. in short, the capability has been there, but it's not proven that any shots of kids in their homes have been taken, or something.
The original story said that a student was disciplined for "improper behavior in his home" which is horrible whether or not the school did take pictures. Also, I never saw any stories that mentioned this yet but would the student be disciplined for covering the webcam up with tape/post-its so it couldn't be used? Because that would be bullshit too.

Also also, fuck that guy for making his blog white text on black background.  :argh!:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2010, 08:37:51 AM
Quote from: Jason Wabash on February 27, 2010, 07:45:39 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 26, 2010, 10:41:52 PM
For anyone interested, this blog post (and also the comments somewhat) seems to give the facts about this incident:

http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html

on the one hand's it's not literally as bad as some of the media make it out to be, but on the other hand, it's still pretty bad. in short, the capability has been there, but it's not proven that any shots of kids in their homes have been taken, or something.
The original story said that a student was disciplined for "improper behavior in his home" which is horrible whether or not the school did take pictures. Also, I never saw any stories that mentioned this yet but would the student be disciplined for covering the webcam up with tape/post-its so it couldn't be used? Because that would be bullshit too.

Also also, fuck that guy for making his blog white text on black background.  :argh!:

Yeah, disabling the camera was apparently grounds for expulsion. And yeah, the blog was good but made my eyes go crazy like Sol Rosenberg!
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Triple Zero on February 27, 2010, 11:50:19 AM
As far as I understand, disabling the camera by software means was grounds for expulsion, basically because they didn't want students to mess with the software/system on the laptops. But covering the camera with a piece of tape was not, as long as it did not damage the laptop. In fact in one of the comments I read some students did in fact just that, but were considered "paranoids" :)

As for problems with black background, you can fix that easily, works great for a lot of sites. In Firefox you select View > Page Style > No Style or in Opera it's View > Style > User mode (or shortcut Shift-G, though in the Style menu you can also pick other styles, you might like High contrast B/W too, as it keeps most of the page layout but just changes the colours to black text white background). If you use Safari, I don't know but try looking for some menu option mentioning "Style" or "Stylesheet". It also works great for websites that try to prevent you from saving images, such as Flickr, because it messes up something in the right-click prevention code.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Freeky on February 27, 2010, 05:45:47 PM
I don't mind white text on black background. Shoot, I'm using that theme on here.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 27, 2010, 07:30:39 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 27, 2010, 05:45:47 PM
I don't mind white text on black background. Shoot, I'm using that theme on here.

I'm old

It makes my eyes go crazy!

Like Sol Rosenberg. http://s0.ilike.com/play#Jerky+Boys:Sol's+Glasses:487573:s27681599.8775800.14462185.0.2.4%2Cstd_eca2ad8642b04b018846054e71a7b3e6
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Freeky on February 27, 2010, 07:49:25 PM
 :lulz: That guy sounds like the dude who did whoever that other kid was in Dexter's Laboratory. The tall one with black hair, was in love with Deedee.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Bruno on February 27, 2010, 11:20:12 PM
Mandark
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Rumckle on February 27, 2010, 11:36:59 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 27, 2010, 11:50:19 AM
As far as I understand, disabling the camera by software means was grounds for expulsion, basically because they didn't want students to mess with the software/system on the laptops. But covering the camera with a piece of tape was not, as long as it did not damage the laptop. In fact in one of the comments I read some students did in fact just that, but were considered "paranoids" :)


Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you.


Also, I wonder if my sisters laptop has a camera, something I may need to investigate. (I know it has a GPS chip)
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Freeky on February 28, 2010, 12:04:45 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on February 27, 2010, 11:20:12 PM
Mandark

Yes, thank you, Mandark.

I disappointed that Cartoon Network got rid of a lot of their shows a while back and replaced them with anime-esque stuff that all looks the same.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
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Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Triple Zero on February 28, 2010, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 28, 2010, 12:04:45 AM
I disappointed that Cartoon Network got rid of a lot of their shows a while back and replaced them with anime-esque stuff that all looks the same.

So, download the old stuff you loved so much and watch it with your monkey?

No need to wait around for reruns in these days anymore.

I personally loved Samurai Jack, was that on Cartoon Network? It seemed like the same artists that did Dexter. I mostly loved the deadpan humour in it :) And the stylishness of Jack, and the fact that he made *swish* sounds, even when just lifting a finger :lol:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: rygD on February 28, 2010, 07:51:28 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 27, 2010, 11:50:19 AM
As far as I understand, disabling the camera by software means was grounds for expulsion, basically because they didn't want students to mess with the software/system on the laptops. But covering the camera with a piece of tape was not, as long as it did not damage the laptop. In fact in one of the comments I read some students did in fact just that, but were considered "paranoids" :)

I still cover the camera on my laptop unless I have phyically disconnected from all network cables, disabled the wireless adapter and am not doing around.  I also usually try to disable the built in microphone, and I am usually booted into something other than the windows shit that it came installed with, so while the chances are very small that any of it will be used without my knowledge, I still try to take precautions.

I rarely turn off or reboot my computers unless they auto-hibernate or I am relocating them, or if I have installed something or for some other reason NEED to reboot.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Freeky on February 28, 2010, 07:59:20 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 28, 2010, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 28, 2010, 12:04:45 AM
I disappointed that Cartoon Network got rid of a lot of their shows a while back and replaced them with anime-esque stuff that all looks the same.

So, download the old stuff you loved so much and watch it with your monkey?

No need to wait around for reruns in these days anymore.

I personally loved Samurai Jack, was that on Cartoon Network? It seemed like the same artists that did Dexter. I mostly loved the deadpan humour in it :) And the stylishness of Jack, and the fact that he made *swish* sounds, even when just lifting a finger :lol:

SAMURAI JACK! :D Yes it was.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on February 28, 2010, 11:32:35 PM
Samurai Jack was the shit. The Star Wars Clone Wars 5 minute shorts were badass too. I think the same guy (Genndy Tartakovsky? Too lazy to google) did those too.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Jasper on February 28, 2010, 11:44:17 PM
Yup.

Shit that was a great miniseries.  I think I'll rewatch it.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Bruno on March 01, 2010, 12:29:30 AM
Did Samurai Jack ever get home?
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on March 01, 2010, 06:27:38 AM
IDK, but google says Genndy Tartakovsky is doing some sort of robot sci-fi thing now.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Triple Zero on March 01, 2010, 07:57:08 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on March 01, 2010, 12:29:30 AM
Did Samurai Jack ever get home?

I think he actually sort of did, or at least, the series did have some kind of grand finale where he fought Aku (?) in the end, and maybe he went back home, or maybe he did go home and then said, heroically, "No. My place is in the future. There's aliens and weird shit that needs my help.", or something like that.

I forgot the details, but there was some kind of closure, IIRC.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 02, 2010, 05:12:59 PM
And just to prove there is no hope for humanity, parents are gathering to oppose the lawsuit.  Apparently they like their kids being spied on.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Parents-Gather-to-Oppose-WebcamGate-Suit--85959677.html
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2010, 05:16:57 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 02, 2010, 05:12:59 PM
And just to prove there is no hope for humanity, parents are gathering to oppose the lawsuit.  Apparently they like their kids being spied on.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Parents-Gather-to-Oppose-WebcamGate-Suit--85959677.html

Yeah, because then they can TOTALLY abdicate their responsibilities as parents.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Iason Ouabache on April 19, 2010, 04:16:18 PM
UPDATE!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100416/ap_on_hi_te/us_laptops_spying_on_students;_ylt=AqIwVqnFPR.GFZHdNBepLMKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTQxNmJvNTlpBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNDE2L3VzX2xhcHRvcHNfc3B5aW5nX29uX3N0dWRlbnRzBGNjb2RlA21vc3Rwb3B1bGFyBGNwb3MDOQRwb3MDNgRwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2ZhbWlseXBhc2Nobw--

QuoteA suburban Philadelphia school district snapped secret webcam pictures of a high school student when he was partially undressed or sleeping in his bed, and captured instant messages he exchanged with friends, the student charged in court papers this week.

The Lower Merion School District concedes its efforts to find missing school-issued laptops was misguided, and officials vowed anew Friday to release the findings of their internal investigation, "good and bad."

The LANrev software program took screen shots and webcam photos every 15 seconds when activated. The district thereby captured over 400 screen shots and webcam images of Harriton High School sophomore Blake Robbins, according to court filings this week in his lawsuit.

The suit, filed in February, exposed the tracking program and prompted an FBI investigation into possible wiretap violations, along with debate among parents about whether to support the potential class-action lawsuit.

"A substantial number of webcam photos have been recovered in the investigation," school board President David Ebby said in a statement Friday. "As we have made clear since day one, we are committed to providing all of the facts — good and bad — at the conclusion of the investigation."

Quote"Thousands of webcam pictures and screen shots have been taken of numerous other students in their homes, many of which never reported their laptops lost or missing," Haltzman wrote in a motion filed Thursday.

According to Haltzman, technology coordinator Carol Cafiero refused to answer his questions at a recent deposition, citing her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. She and technician Michael Perbix were the only employees authorized to activate the webcams. Perbix did not fight the deposition.

Haltzman called Cafiero a possible "voyeur" and wants access to her personal computer to see if she downloaded any student images. To support the charge, he cited her response to an e-mail from a colleague who said viewing the webcam pictures was like watching "a little LMSD soap opera."

"I know, I love it!" Cafiero allegedly replied.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Dr. Paes on April 20, 2010, 12:06:39 AM
Would be interested to hear what the parents who opposed the lawsuit have to say for themselves now.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 20, 2010, 07:23:22 PM
They're probably pissed that their kids aren't getting photographed that often.

*Has no faith left in humanity.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 24, 2010, 03:13:29 AM
Total pics snapped of kids looks to be around 56,000

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100419_Lower_Merion_details_Web_cam_scope.html

It does look like the judge in the case takes this seriously, they've been ordered to stop doing it.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9160878/Federal_judge_orders_Pa._schools_to_stop_laptop_spying
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Jasper on April 24, 2010, 03:58:49 AM
YESS.  Christ, it sure has been social justice out lately.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: maphdet on April 24, 2010, 05:39:12 AM
I wonder if the kids are still required to use the laptops distributed by the school.

Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on April 24, 2010, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on April 24, 2010, 03:58:49 AM
YESS.  Christ, it sure has been social justice out lately.

Eh, that depends on where you're looking.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Jasper on April 25, 2010, 12:39:31 AM
Quote from: Vladimir Poopin on April 24, 2010, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on April 24, 2010, 03:58:49 AM
YESS.  Christ, it sure has been social justice out lately.

Eh, that depends on where you're looking.

Yeah, always.  Still...
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Bruno on August 23, 2010, 12:07:24 PM
Hay.

Guess wat.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100817_U_S__ends_webcam_probe__no_charges.html
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Cramulus on August 23, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
no charges? where the fuck is the justice in this country?

if you're the first one to commit a crime, you really do get a free ride because they haven't written the laws you're breaking yet.

:vom:
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2010, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 23, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
no charges? where the fuck is the justice in this country?

if you're the first one to commit a crime, you really do get a free ride because they haven't written the laws you're breaking yet.

:vom:

Ex post facto laws are unconstitutional.
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Cramulus on August 23, 2010, 05:24:51 PM
you've gotta be real creative to systematically spy on students and their families these days
Title: Re: HOLY FUCKING PRIVACY RAPE!
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2010, 05:28:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 23, 2010, 05:24:51 PM
you've gotta be real creative to systematically spy on students and their families these days

Yeah, and it's hard to believe that wiretapping laws don't apply.

New technology = new crimes.