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P3nT4gR4m

New age woo gets a new chew toy

QuoteIt describes a series of experiments involving more than 1000 student volunteers. In most of the tests, Bem took well-studied psychological phenomena and simply reversed the sequence, so that the event generally interpreted as the cause happened after the tested behaviour rather than before it.

In one experiment, students were shown a list of words and then asked to recall words from it, after which they were told to type words that were randomly selected from the same list. Spookily, the students were better at recalling words that they would later type.

In another study, Bem adapted research on "priming" – the effect of a subliminally presented word on a person's response to an image. For instance, if someone is momentarily flashed the word "ugly", it will take them longer to decide that a picture of a kitten is pleasant than if "beautiful" had been flashed. Running the experiment back-to-front, Bem found that the priming effect seemed to work backwards in time as well as forwards.

:facepalm:

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 27, 2014, 12:45:34 PM
New age woo gets a new chew toy

QuoteIt describes a series of experiments involving more than 1000 student volunteers. In most of the tests, Bem took well-studied psychological phenomena and simply reversed the sequence, so that the event generally interpreted as the cause happened after the tested behaviour rather than before it.

In one experiment, students were shown a list of words and then asked to recall words from it, after which they were told to type words that were randomly selected from the same list. Spookily, the students were better at recalling words that they would later type.

In another study, Bem adapted research on "priming" – the effect of a subliminally presented word on a person's response to an image. For instance, if someone is momentarily flashed the word "ugly", it will take them longer to decide that a picture of a kitten is pleasant than if "beautiful" had been flashed. Running the experiment back-to-front, Bem found that the priming effect seemed to work backwards in time as well as forwards.

:facepalm:

This is fairly old and has been rather thoroughly and unsuccessfully replicated. Are the New Agers glomming onto it? Bem is a pretty respectable researcher, and no one's sure where the flaw in his study design is, but no one's been able to get results better than chance with his methods so I'd thought it went by the wayside. If they are making sounds about it, give them this: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0033423
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


P3nT4gR4m

Not really heard anything. Came through one of my feeds. I thought it was new. My fault for not checking the dates  :oops:

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P3nT4gR4m

Pretty trick femtosecond scanner

QuoteThe measurements, created by the use of short pulse lasers and bioluminescent proteins, are made in femtoseconds, which is one millionth of one billionth of a second. A femtosecond, compared to one second, is about the same as one second compared to 32 million years.
That's a pretty fast shutter speed, and it should change the way biological research and physical chemistry are being done, scientists say.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

minuspace

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 30, 2014, 10:18:48 PM
Pretty trick femtosecond scanner

QuoteThe measurements, created by the use of short pulse lasers and bioluminescent proteins, are made in femtoseconds, which is one millionth of one billionth of a second. A femtosecond, compared to one second, is about the same as one second compared to 32 million years.
That's a pretty fast shutter speed, and it should change the way biological research and physical chemistry are being done, scientists say.
Very cool brain food right there.  Ty

MMIX

I really don't know how I feel about this. I'm caught some where between 'Wow thats cool' and 'Fuck, nothing will ever be private again'
http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/algorithm-recovers-speech-from-vibrations-0804

QuoteExtracting audio from visual information
Algorithm recovers speech from the vibrations of a potato-chip bag filmed through soundproof glass.


Quote"This is new and refreshing. It's the kind of stuff that no other group would do right now," says Alexei Efros, an associate professor of electrical engineering and computer science at the University of California at Berkeley. "We're scientists, and sometimes we watch these movies, like James Bond, and we think, 'This is Hollywood theatrics. It's not possible to do that. This is ridiculous.' And suddenly, there you have it. This is totally out of some Hollywood thriller. You know that the killer has admitted his guilt because there's surveillance footage of his potato chip bag vibrating."
Efros agrees that the characterization of material properties could be a fruitful application of the technology. But, he adds, "I'm sure there will be applications that nobody will expect. I think the hallmark of good science is when you do something just because it's cool and then somebody turns around and uses it for something you never imagined. It's really nice to have this type of creative stuff.
"The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently" David Graeber

Junkenstein

It's increasingly difficult to name anything that still is completely private anyway.

Though this does seem to again increase the importance of KYFMS.

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

MMIX

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 05, 2014, 10:04:43 AM
It's increasingly difficult to name anything that still is completely private anyway.

Though this does seem to again increase the importance of KYFMS.

You're not wrong
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minuspace

At a distance, say, not an annexed space, I would imagine the camera's standard deviation to be significantly greater than the margin of error required to accurately sample sound from images.

LMNO

Quote from: LuciferX on August 05, 2014, 10:28:20 AM
At a distance, say, not an annexed space, I would imagine the camera's standard deviation to be significantly greater than the margin of error required to accurately sample sound from images.

Currently.

Junkenstein

Yeah, +/- 10 years or so and it'll be quite scary.

That said, the NSA and others can pretty much just listen in to any mobile phone at any time, making a call or not. So I'd suspect the main reason to develop the tech further would just be to make parallel construction that little bit easier. Local police get to feel like James Bond and with all the seizure cash kicking around it needs to get spent on something. You can only buy so many tanks.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

GlompChomp

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 05, 2014, 01:04:56 PM
Yeah, +/- 10 years or so and it'll be quite scary.

That said, the NSA and others can pretty much just listen in to any mobile phone at any time, making a call or not. So I'd suspect the main reason to develop the tech further would just be to make parallel construction that little bit easier. Local police get to feel like James Bond and with all the seizure cash kicking around it needs to get spent on something. You can only buy so many tanks.

Don't be concerned about the NSA. Be concerned about the NRO. They can read your mind. Well, within reason.

Here, you fistful of assholes deserve a wakeup call.

Ring ring ring, it's GlompChomp calling from a warzone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj3S4ryAKyE&list=UU5c0DefLjv1VStIbA84yiUQ


Wait that's not the right link.

http://www.electronictorture.com/

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6506148.PN.&OS=PN%2F6506148&RS=PN%2F6506148

http://www.bugsweeps.com/info/electronic_harassment.html

:lulz:
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minuspace

If only those were the weapons, there would be hardly anything for anybody to worry about.

Junkenstein

Quote from: GlompChomp on September 23, 2014, 12:22:41 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 05, 2014, 01:04:56 PM
Yeah, +/- 10 years or so and it'll be quite scary.

That said, the NSA and others can pretty much just listen in to any mobile phone at any time, making a call or not. So I'd suspect the main reason to develop the tech further would just be to make parallel construction that little bit easier. Local police get to feel like James Bond and with all the seizure cash kicking around it needs to get spent on something. You can only buy so many tanks.

Don't be concerned about the NSA. Be concerned about the NRO. They can read your mind. Well, within reason.

Here, you fistful of assholes deserve a wakeup call.

Ring ring ring, it's GlompChomp calling from a warzone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj3S4ryAKyE&list=UU5c0DefLjv1VStIbA84yiUQ


Wait that's not the right link.

http://www.electronictorture.com/

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6506148.PN.&OS=PN%2F6506148&RS=PN%2F6506148

http://www.bugsweeps.com/info/electronic_harassment.html

:lulz:

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

GlompChomp

Quote from: LuciferX on September 23, 2014, 08:05:31 AM
If only those were the weapons, there would be hardly anything for anybody to worry about.

How does that work LOL
widdly scuds

I stretch my penis in a saltwater toffee maker every Tuesday and Saturday.