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Show posts MenuQuote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2008, 06:55:07 PM
is that the grass that generates power via the sun?
I saw a guy talk about that on Colbert - said if once their project is done, if they covered the roof of every walmart in the USA with their grass contraption, they would already be producing more power than all the nuke plants in the US.
facts possibly misquoted due to drunkenness, human error
Quote from: Felix on October 01, 2008, 05:01:35 AM
It can be healthy if you do construction!
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on September 30, 2008, 05:02:48 AM
you guys are missing the obvious point about electric vehicles.
WHERE IS THE FUCKING ELECTRICITY COMING FROM?
OH, THAT'S RIGHT. PROBABLY OIL OR COAL. BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL GET TO HAVE A FALSE SENSE OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY AND AN OVERWHELMING AND UNJUSTIFIED SMUGNESS.
Quote from: Felix on September 24, 2008, 01:17:07 AM
That's basically perfect.
Quote from: Felix on September 23, 2008, 01:33:44 AM
Not sure what to look for in the article, because my chem is pretty weak, but here ya go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification
Quote from: Vene on September 22, 2008, 09:43:16 PMQuote from: Kai on September 22, 2008, 08:04:46 PMI understand the data is limited, the data is always limited. Another example would be that the data available for studying evolution is limited, but do biologists doubt that? Do you doubt that? Sure, hypothetically tomorrow a genuine rabbit fossil could be found in the precambrian, but the odds of it are insignificant.
I was reading something from The Immense Journey by Loren Eisley last night. Its the chapter where Eisley goes on and on about the abyss, the deep ocean, and how it was only secondarily colonized. this was back in the 40s or 50s when Eisley wrote it. He said that scientists used to think life developed and came from the deep but now we know that wasn't true.
30-50 years later, Hydrothermal vent ecosystems based entirely on chemosynthetic bacteria that oxidize sulfur were discovered and now the hypothesis is that life likely developed in places like that. Yet Eisley, a rather good scientist and physical anthropologist, an intelligent person, was so sure that life couldn't have originated down there.
We didn't have all the information, we still don't have all the information.
I guess the questions here are, does anybody doubt that CO2 absorbs electromagnetic radiation? Does anybody doubt that humans have released a hell of a lot of it into the atmosphere? (do I really have to post the chemical equation for the oxidation of hydrocarbons?)
Now, let's say I'm completely wrong and carbon dioxide doesn't cause global warming. CO2 is also responsible for other environmental harm. Carbon dioxide reacts with water to form carbonic acid. This is what makes acid rain acidic. Do I really have to post some of the effects of acid rain? Is everyone here familiar with what acid can do? This reaction also has a nasty effect in the oceans, actually, the same effect. At the current rate of CO2 emissions the pH of the oceans will drop 0.5 units by 2100 (note: pH is a logarithmic scale). This is an unprecedented rate of change (link). I don't know what the full effects would be, but I do know that it's a fucking huge change in the global environment.