Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 16, 2019, 03:57:41 AMQuote from: LMNO on July 15, 2019, 02:04:43 PMQuote from: Norman on July 14, 2019, 03:22:54 AM
No, not at all. I'm saying put aside litmus tests, get the orange buffoon out of office. If he gets another 4 years, shit's gonna get worse.
You're acting like Trump is the cause, and not the symptom.
If, somehow, a Centrist Dem boots Trump, you think the GOP is gonna say, "ok, your turn"?
No, they'll go on a vicious attack, and the Centrist will compromise, which is another way of saying, "well, I guess some genocide is all right."
A Leftist president will fight like hell and give it right back to them.
Well, yes. The root cause of failure here is "Americans".
That does seem to be the common theme