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OK, more specific question

(x-posted from IM)

I'm pretty sure they've produced technology using quantum stuff but I just can't make the connection how saying "how the fuck should I know?" helps them to arrive at such goals.

Like you got Newtonian physics and that basically tells us, among other things, that the earth sucks so if you build a bridge a specific (read suction defying) way then you can run trains across it and shit.

Fine! I'm down with that - Speed = distance over time, makes sense to me.

Then Einstein comes along and says "Yo, Newton was useful but I gots better shit for y'all" and lo and behold the new model lets us build space ships and Ipods and all sortsa cool shit.

Fine! I'm down with that - E=MC² Dunno what it means but I believe smart people who tell me they do.

But then The dalek guy comes along and says "fuck that einstein shit I gots new shit that basically says 'we can't work anything out', 'it's all just bullshit', 'our maths doesn't even know if a cat is alive or dead'"

And fucking what?? Apparently some apeshit new microelectronics developments in storage and processing. How?? I got no fucking idea where protons are either and it don't make my PC any faster

Last couple of years xmas has been all about the food for me. Roast turkey dinner FTW

Timber profile is usually in inches but the length is more often in meters so you'll get a 3 meter length of 2x4 or shit like that. Sheeting can be either or.

[[i can understand english perfectly well after all]]

i saw avatar, but the subtitles kind of spoiled the immersion for me. they should have placed them in depth as well, like speech bubbles, sort of. most importantly, have them be occluded by things that are supposed to be in front of them.

now they were kind of like a glitchy fence in front of an aquarium.

also the story sucked [pocahontas in space] and even when I managed to ignore the subtitles [i can understand english perfectly well after all], I really don't have the feeling it adds much to the experience.

but, YMMV.

Bullshit - you can't even understand a simple order to get the fuck out my way, even when it's roared at you repeatedly 

Technological singularity will end the planet, by using it all up to build nth generation machines.

Formula is simple - 1st gen machines were built by humans, 2nd gen were built by humans, assisted by machines, 3rd gen built by machines, assisted by humans, 4th gen built entirely by machines, 6th gen built by the machines the 4th gen produced.. and so on.

The singularity bit comes in because the rate of production of subsequent generations is considered to be faster and faster. Singularity can occur one of two ways:

1) The rate of production becomes so fast that, eventually, generation 100075 actually manages to finish designing generation 100076 before it's been designed itself, causing a rift in the space-time continuum.

2) Generation 3567298 designs 3567299 which is so complex it uses up all the matter in the known universe to build it.

We are psycho-somatic beings... the mind can affect the body functions, just as the body can affect the minds function...

And although one shouldnt rely on psychological will to cure cancer, it sure can help in a matter of degree.

In other words, if you psychically give up on life, it WILL affect your immune system; the percentage that this affects the condition, do, is very variable, and i think, unmeasurable in a quantitative scale.

The effect of stress on the immune system is measurable on a quantitative scale.  "Giving up on life" is a little trickier, however.

OK so we go from "voodoo can kill you"
to "voodoo can give you cancer"

If you believe a voodoo curse can hurt you, it will.

Gullibility/Suggestion - not the voodoo itself, but the response that evokes from you

If I had some asshole waving chicken bones and cats menstruation at me  my stress levels would rise ->More susceptible to cancer.
Its just that the practitioners cause (magic) is not the actual cause, its the actual physical significance of the act.
For instance leaving a dagger on someones pillow to give them bad dreams, same deal, no magic. The actual Physical significance of what happened would effect my mental state and my nerves. I don't think gullibility has anything to do with this, its merely cause and effect.

So we're right back to Arthur C. If you understand it, it ceases to be magic. If you don't then you become hilariously fleece/fuckable.

So if QM is all fuzzy and full of shit like "we'll never know" how the fuck is it useful for anything?

pls note: I'm not disputing it's use (apparently it is) I just need an explanation as to how. 

So what kind of upgraded hell package do I have to look forward to?

The one that Jayne Mansfield went to.

Google images will tell you all you need to know.

As long as the ghost of Anton LaVey gets to jizz on my tits I'll be a happy man

Um, whatever makes you happy.  I was gonna give you Mansfield's ghost, but LaVey works too, I guess.

Bigger tit

So what kind of upgraded hell package do I have to look forward to?

The one that Jayne Mansfield went to.

Google images will tell you all you need to know.

As long as the ghost of Anton LaVey gets to jizz on my tits I'll be a happy man

So what kind of upgraded hell package do I have to look forward to?

So I just put it in my profile and receive riches beyond reason, right?

400lbs is considered dangerously underweight in america. They are a notoriously chubby nation.

So the whole deal is about conventions in the maths to account for shortcomings of the measurement apparatus? 

What about the double slit thing, does that still behave maghwiqueally?

America obviously has an inferior "pagan community" last time I was involved in mystical sportfucking there were plenty of hawt. Heads full of bullshit and fuck all use at conversation but hey, when you just turned 25 and fresh out of divorce you've had as much conversation as you can stomach right? Wiccanist airheads fill that meaningless sex gap quite nicely thankew

[Being able to be in two places at once on the precondition that both places must be within a nanometer of each other is a very, very lame superpower.]

Here's an easy way to think of it:

A lot of the bizarro stuff of QP stems from the fact that uncertainty in position times uncertainty in momentum is greater than a small constant.  Uncertainty is measured in absolute terms - it's not +/- a few percentage points, it's +/- a few nanometers.  Which means that it doesn't scale - knowing that an electron is within a nanometer of there describes a small cloud of where the electron could be.  Knowing where a person is to within a nanometer is an impressive feat of measurement in and of itself.  The uncertainty due to quantum is negligible because it's less the the uncertainty of our instruments anyway.  Being able to be in two places at once on the precondition that both places must be within a nanometer of each other is a very, very lame superpower.  Also remember that the other component of the uncertainty is momentum, which is mass times velocity.  For a very massive body (compared to an electron; if you stuck 20 zeroes on the end of the mass of an electron, it still wouldn't be a gram of mass, so what we consider to be "normal" is incredibly massive relative to an electron - even a proton is 2000 times the mass of an electron), even a tiny tiny tiny uncertainty in velocity, once multiplied by mass, is big enough that you can get by with an even tinier uncertainty in position as well.  So we can know the position and velocity of a person to more accuracy than anybody would ever need without getting close to the quantum limit.

That was all mostly wrong, but if it helps anyone avoid scams, then go for it.

For some reason this whole notion just caused me to laugh so hard I shit myself out loud.

I'm picturing "Captain Quantum" and he's kinda like "The Tick" but without the antennae and dressed in pink 

So anyway - this uncertainty thing, it's more to do with the fact that we can't actually tell it's precise location rather than it has more than one?