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[Cramulus]

(2) Corporate Personhood - Corporations are slowly eroding the quality of life for private citizens while building themselves the same protections enjoyed by individuals. Recent legal drama has established a higher level of immunity to class action law suits. I want the public to be able to distinguish what rights people should have and what rights corporations should have. What would a false flag op on the corporate personhood frequency look like?

Encourage Anonymous or Lulsec to attempt to incorporate themselves, rendering them immune to prosecution?

[edit: This is attempting to combine the zeitgeists of Internet, hacking, cyberlaw, and corporate personhood into a single story.  Many corporate boards are mostly anonymous anyway, and there's a quirky aspect of incorprating a loose, unknown internet collective.]

that's a really interesting idea. I do wonder if anon would benefit from having a legally incorporated splinter group. I imagine it would take some real resources on their part in order to make it work... it is the kind of thing you can crowdsource.

I am a bit leery of masquerading as anonymous though. That has a tendency to backfire, and they're drawing some big heat these days since they started releasing military passwords.

But I like the idea... maybe we could create a fake front for a company whose entire purpose is to allow its "employees" to displace responsibility onto the company.

wait that sounds familiar... isn't there an actual group which does that??

[Cain]

The debt ceiling one may fall victim to Poe's Law, in some respect, because conservatives really do want it to remain in place, as it will force the United States to cut back spending, creating a "smaller" government (especially with respect to New Deal type programs).  It's the old "reducing the government to the size it can be drowned in a bathtub" canard.

In other words, it may not be crazy enough to get the attention of the media, because the Republicans really do think along those lines.  That is also why they're being obstructionist on the job creation front - because the blame will fall on Obama, not them, and so increase their chance of electoral victory.  Most people, even the likes of David Brooks etc, realize this is the game they are playing now.

On the other hand, we could always dial up the crazy even further...how about wanting the USA to default because it will bring about austerity measures imposed by the IMF and allow them to destroy Big Government entirely?  If the US defaults, it creates another international economic crisis, the world defaults and no-one will have the money to lend to the USA, international socialism dies and pure, limited constitutionalism shall flourish in the new world order born out of the ashes of the old?

[Cainad (dec.)]

But I like the idea... maybe we could create a fake front for a company whose entire purpose is to allow its "employees" to displace responsibility onto the company.

wait that sounds familiar... isn't there an actual group which does that??

Sounds vaguely like The Yes Men?

[Payne]

What I actually wanted was that source pic (it's a stalwart of British Broadcasting, Terry Wogan, who is as safe and family friendly as a plate of slightly undercooked chips, with an erection).

Except when he did Eurovision, and got incredibly drunk, started calling the foreign presenters names and got banned from visiting several countries ever again.

Also when he demanded a pay in the hundreds of thousands range for charity events (Red Nose).  But the above is funnier.

My contribution to the main discussion ITT and to everything in general is this: Erections are always funnier.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I was getting this sort of idea thinking about this and false flags and such. Something like the Regressive Party? It's an anti-progressive party, and is different from the Tea Party some how. Or it is made up of disaffected Tea Party member, or some such.