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#22321
Principia Discussion / Re: The Eris Look
February 23, 2010, 09:12:47 PM
We tend to a historical interpretation here.

I actually did a lot of the research on original ancient Greek attitudes to Eris a few years ago, when I had to take several modules in classical history and literature.  And Eris was, historically, seen as a war goddess, among other things. 

Eris, like Hermes, seems to have undergone several interpretations based on Greek cultural mores of the time.  For example, as a Goddess of Competition (in her "good" aspect, according to Hesiod) would've actually been seen by most 7th and 6th century Greeks as bad, since they considered commerce as a dishonourable livelihood.  The exception to this was Attica, which thrived on trade and where there is some evidence of Eris worship.  Changes in how Hermes was viewed (changing from a pest-like King of Thieves to a god of communication, wits and commerce) happened in a similar place at a similar time.

Equally, the family to which Eris belonged were not exactly held in highest regard by the Greeks, either.  Remember, Ares wasn't just a god of warfare, he was a god of bloody slaughter, a brooding and violent killer, quite unlike Athena, the goddess of rational, wise and prudent warfare.  Eris' mythological association with him probably did not help improve her reputation outside of Attica, and the more popular Cult of Hermes quite likely vyed for worshippers that might have gone to Eris in places where she wasn't viewed so negatively.  Also remember after the Peloponnesian Wars, the Athenians were not the most popular Greeks in all of Greece, and the Thirty Tyrants stamped down heavily on deviant approaches to worship, as their execution of Socrates seems to indicate.  An Erisian cult would've been considered politically dangerous, if it was still active at that time (the proof we have of ancient Eris worship in the Greek mainland ONLY comes from the sixth century).

In Rome, she would've fared little better.  The Roman Republic sneered quite openly at Greek culture, seeing it as inferior, indulgent and childish.  A Dionysus based cult caused significant political turmoil at one point during the Republic's history, as I recall as well, which didn't improve this attitude to Greek culture.  Things changed as the Republic moved towards Empire, Eris was likely equated with Bellona to nullify the more disruptive aspects of her nature and Romanize her.
#22322
Rat, it sounds like, in some ways, you are advocating philosophical anarchism.  Which I can live with.

Also, I'm going to split all non-stupid wingnut utterances off into a new thread.  Please stand by...
#22323
#22324
It'll be just like Feb 2009 all over again, only everyone dies at the end.
#22325
He was totally stoned and/or trolling when at the UN.  I also think he may be trying to be a Carlos Santana body double, though I'm not sure.
#22326
I just want to point out that Colonel Qadafi rocked the gangja pretty heavily back in the day, and it turned it from a bloodthirsty African dictator into...well, the lovechild of Sarah Palin and Dan Quayle.

See kids, better living through chemistry does produce results!
#22327
Cram, you should read Kevin Carson at http://mutualist.blogspot.com/  He's a non-crazy, left-leaning libertarian who frequently quotes Robert Anton Wilson and makes some excellent points.

Some variants of libertarianism aren't, in my opinion, too bad, especially more intellectual and nuanced approaches its just that capital L Libertarianism in America is corporate hagiography and nothing more.
#22328
Jonah Goldberg is now taking his marching orders from Glenn Beck, it seems http://wonkette.com/413869/jonah-goldberg-decides-next-wingnut-target-is-teddy-roosevelt
#22329
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Death Note and 5GW
February 23, 2010, 06:15:05 PM
Quote from: Pariarrhea on July 03, 2009, 12:01:14 AM
Any chance you could re-upload that pack of books?

Uh, maybe.  I could probably upload a better selection of books, but it would take time to pick them all out.

Anyway, for the anime fans

http://phaticcommunion.com/musing5gw/2010/02/intimations-of-5gw-death-note.php

http://phaticcommunion.com/musing5gw/2010/02/intimations-of-5gw-death-note-the-rules-of-the-game.php

QuoteIt is curious that, of the characters used in the anime version of Death Note, the four principle characters in the series are amoral, megalomaniacal, monomaniacs.  For an exploration of 5GW via the allegory of Death Note, this feature of the anime stands out, particularly when earlier permutations of this exploration have centered on issues such as Puppetmastery,  Superempowerment of individuals, the use of unwitting proxies and unwitting pawns, and creating system-wide changes via perturbations or engineered "Black Swans", etc. These are themes repeatedly raised during discussions of 5GW, with the common presumption that either an individual or a very small group of individuals may manipulate whole systems (megalomania) via unaware proxy/pawn "hands in the field" and whatever perturbations are required toward one eventual and ultimate goal (amoral monomania.)
#22330
Back to making fun of wingnuts

http://wonkette.com/413847/scott-brown-votes-for-jobs-bill-wingnuts-go-nuts-on-twitter

QuoteIn only his second Senate vote, Republican messiah Scott Brown helped the Democrats destroy a Republican filibuster on the new Jobs Bill, hahahahah, what? And guess who's cold goin' nuts on the Twitter?

Post includes screenshots of screeching Twittertards.
#22331
Literate Chaotic / Re: Book Club: The Coming Insurrection
February 23, 2010, 06:01:03 PM
Sorry, I've totally dropped the ball on this, I know.  Other things taking up my time.

However, in the meantime, Glenn Beck has now turned The Coming Insurrection into a bestseller http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/449785-Glenn_Beck_Helps_Turn_Anarchist_Book_Into_Bestseller.php
#22332
Fuck yeah.  If I have to be ill, I may as well be in an altered state of mind whilst suffering it.

Unfortunately, I have to actually go to the shops, since I am out of all those items.  I wonder how many strange stares I can get if I buy a packet of condoms and some bandages at the same time?
#22333
Aneristic Illusions / Re: the Joe Stack Manifesto
February 23, 2010, 05:52:00 PM
Sounds like the IRS aren't entirely stupid then.  Getting back the money at a later date is better than getting back nothing at all.  Strangely enough (or not), a lot of eastern European criminal gangs work along the same lines.
#22334
I'm not going to make it through tonight without chemical assistance.  I wonder what happens when you mix tea, powerful cough syrup, throat lozenges and "herbal" sleeping pills together?
#22335
I just realized Amerispags may not get the humour of my above statement, so I shall explain:

Brighton is well known as the "gay capital" of the UK, with a large number of LGBT nightclubs, bookstores, support groups and shops.  Therefore, going "teabagging" in Brighton is inherently hilarious, especially when done by the sort of conservatives who are not big fans of the gay community or lifestyle.  Hannan for example is considered to be on the hard right of mainstream UK politics, and often flirts with Republicans of the Fox News/Sarah Palin variety.

Also it was only just last week someone in America was saying Europe needed its own Teabaggers.  Is that conspiracy I smell in the air, the sound of manufactured rage designed to look like grassroots discontent, aimed at reigning in UKIP type libertarians and independents and bringing them under Tory control?  Say tuned as I let someone else do all the research, confirming my well founded paranoia!