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Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 17, 2014, 08:17:50 PM
YouTube is considering pulling all indie music that doesn't sign license deals for its new subscription music service.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/17/youtube-indie-labels-music-subscription

I can't tell if this means no more music at all on the non-subscriber side; but if that's the case, YouTube is most likely fucked forever.

It's doubtful. The reason they're most probably doing this is because some industry spag has started pissing and moaning because youtube's subscriber service is selling added value on the back of their IP and they want their cut. In order to receive said cut there has to be a contract.

If an indie producer refuses to sign then legally youtube can't offer their music to their subscribers in ad free format. This compromises the value of youtube's subscriber service, therefore youtube are trying to encourage as many content creators as possible to sign the contract.

Predictably, a whole army have donned their tinfoil helmets and started pissing and whining about teh evil corporation wanting to give them money for doing fuck all.

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LMNO

See, that makes sense; but in that case, YouTube would simply not include the indie music on the subscription channel.  But that doesn't explain the bit in the article which says, "the company [YouTube] has signed lucrative licensing deals with major labels Universal, Warner and Sony, while demanding that independent labels sign up to inferior terms or face having their videos blocked from YouTube's free service."

So it sounds like they're trying to put all music behind a paywall, to the extent of deleting free indie music from the free side.

Junkenstein

Probably overdue for a Boko Haram/Nigeria thread:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/06/explosion-rocks-nigeria-world-cup-viewing-2014617212639380659.html

QuoteAn explosion has struck a venue in the town of Damaturu in northeast Nigeria where fans had gathered to watch a World Cup football match, police say.

There were reports that a suicide bomber detonated a tricycle packed with explosives at the venue.

There was no official word on casualties from Tuesday night's blast at the Crossfire venue in the Nayi-Nawa area of the town.

Al Jazeera's Ahmed Idris, reporting from Abuja, said hospital sources had confirmed that several people had died.

"Emergency workers are telling us that people are avoiding the scene of the accident for fear of a secondary explosive device," he said.

A witness near the scene told Reuters news agency they heard a loud boom. Some residents said they also heard a second explosion.

Remember a few weeks ago where various nations were going to give all kinds of support, aid and advice?

I question the quality of said supplied support, aid and advice. Or indeed, if it even materialised at all.
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P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 18, 2014, 01:44:16 PM
See, that makes sense; but in that case, YouTube would simply not include the indie music on the subscription channel.  But that doesn't explain the bit in the article which says, "the company [YouTube] has signed lucrative licensing deals with major labels Universal, Warner and Sony, while demanding that independent labels sign up to inferior terms or face having their videos blocked from YouTube's free service."

So it sounds like they're trying to put all music behind a paywall, to the extent of deleting free indie music from the free side.

I'd tend to read between the lines. putting free stuff behind a paywall isn't google's style. The whole thing looks to me like they're trying not to piss in any content owners wheaties by crossing IP lines with the paywall service. This is about people paying google to remove ads and the legal ramifications thereof. People who don't pay the ads will still see the ads. And the content.

However, legally, youtube can't show IP without ads which (in the case of IP owners) are ads to buy that content on itunes. This is how google got around the whole banhammer that the RIAA and others started slapping them with a couple of years back. So now they're trying to launch a paywall service but if that paywall service offers a lot less content, who's going to want to pay for it?

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Junkenstein

http://news.yahoo.com/family-fights-cops-knives-nixed-fun-park-184458333.html

QuoteSALEM, N.H. (AP) — Five members of a Vermont family assaulted police officers during a melee that erupted when security guards at a New Hampshire amusement park told them to leave their knives in the car, police said Tuesday.

The fracas started at about 1:30 p.m. Monday when the Perry family tried to enter Canobie Lake Park in Salem. Some of the family members had knives on their belts and were told they couldn't bring them into the park, police said.

The family became belligerent and eventually two Salem officers responded to quell the disturbance. The family became more irate, yelling profanities at the officers in front of other visitors, police said.

After several verbal warnings, an officer told one man he was under arrest and tried to handcuff him, leading to the fight that included people jumping on the backs of the officers, punching, kicking and grabbing for their weapons, police said. Two officers were injured, including one who was treated at a hospital for a dislocated shoulder.

As backup officers arrived, the mother of the family faked a seizure, police said. She was examined by paramedics and released at the scene.

What's unusual here is that no-one appears to have been shot during all of this. Which is quite incredible really.
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What's wrong with carrying knives? Are knives bad in America? Like a weapon is only holy and sacred if it has a range greater than 50 feet or something?

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LMNO

I'm thinking in this context "amusement park" precludes weapons of any kind.  If the family were carrying guns, slingshots, or RPGs, they also would be asked to leave them in the car.

P3nT4gR4m

So it's weird that they were carrying knives then? Was it some kind of open-carry statement/protest or something?

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#3473
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 18, 2014, 06:25:25 PM
So it's weird that they were carrying knives then? Was it some kind of open-carry statement/protest or something?

No, it's not weird, a lot of people carry knives. The only weird part is that they tried to bring said knives into an amusement park. It's like trying to take a knife into a concert venue; simply not done.


*edited for typo
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


LMNO

Yeah, socially weird.  Potentially illegal if the stated rules of the amusement park ban weapons.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 18, 2014, 06:32:30 PM
Yeah, socially weird.  Potentially illegal if the stated rules of the amusement park ban weapons.

Right; it's private property, so if the rules ban weapons (and I've never seen an amusement park that didn't) then they were trespassing the moment they decided to bring their knives inside.

Many places are fine with a Swiss Army Knife, but not so fine with a hip knife.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 17, 2014, 10:35:00 PM
Also, I'm sick of their fucking ads. They are the worst targeted ads I've been subjected to anywhere on the internet, to the point where I'm having a hard time even believing that they are targeted at all, given that the SAME FUCKING TRISCUIT COMMERCIAL prefaces EVERY FUCKING CRASH COURSE BIOLOGY video. Even if you watch ten in a row. You know what's not a good idea? Showing the same commercial to the same viewer over and over again.

You think youve got it bad? Ive been getting spanish language Walmart ads for a week straight now. Before that it was japanese airliners. And I swear to god, after I googled "German Porn"(for scientific reasons) I got this for about a month.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 18, 2014, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 18, 2014, 06:32:30 PM
Yeah, socially weird.  Potentially illegal if the stated rules of the amusement park ban weapons.

Right; it's private property, so if the rules ban weapons (and I've never seen an amusement park that didn't) then they were trespassing the moment they decided to bring their knives inside.

Many places are fine with a Swiss Army Knife, but not so fine with a hip knife.

Makes perfect sense. UK Law would have came to the same conclusion, albeit by a different route. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck they were trying to accomplish.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 18, 2014, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 17, 2014, 10:35:00 PM
Also, I'm sick of their fucking ads. They are the worst targeted ads I've been subjected to anywhere on the internet, to the point where I'm having a hard time even believing that they are targeted at all, given that the SAME FUCKING TRISCUIT COMMERCIAL prefaces EVERY FUCKING CRASH COURSE BIOLOGY video. Even if you watch ten in a row. You know what's not a good idea? Showing the same commercial to the same viewer over and over again.

You think youve got it bad? Ive been getting spanish language Walmart ads for a week straight now. Before that it was japanese airliners. And I swear to god, after I googled "German Porn"(for scientific reasons) I got this for about a month.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

What I don't understand is what seems to have led their targeting software to believe firmly, not for a week or so but for a solid six months, that I should be subjected to a nonstop stream of Triscuit commercials. I actually used to buy Triscuits once in a while but I've developed an aversion. Fuck Triscuits. Fuck them in the face.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 18, 2014, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 18, 2014, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 18, 2014, 06:32:30 PM
Yeah, socially weird.  Potentially illegal if the stated rules of the amusement park ban weapons.

Right; it's private property, so if the rules ban weapons (and I've never seen an amusement park that didn't) then they were trespassing the moment they decided to bring their knives inside.

Many places are fine with a Swiss Army Knife, but not so fine with a hip knife.

Makes perfect sense. UK Law would have came to the same conclusion, albeit by a different route. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck they were trying to accomplish.

They were Vermonters going to an amusement park in New Hampshire.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."